The Syndicate

Hi, went with Bernoulli. Anyone with that last name, has to be a genius

nijuukyugou wrote:Checking in! I'll go for Max Scnhell, since a) he has no votes and b) the name amuses me and makes me wish I spoke more German so I could sound angry all the time while actually saying nice things. Oh, wait...

Grading 50+ poorly written research papers really takes a toll on my sanity. And poorly written doesn't even begin to describe the horror Hence, mafia break.

What are the papers about?

nijuukyugou wrote:
FZ. wrote:
nijuukyugou wrote:Checking in! I'll go for Max Scnhell, since a) he has no votes and b) the name amuses me and makes me wish I spoke more German so I could sound angry all the time while actually saying nice things. Oh, wait...

Grading 50+ poorly written research papers really takes a toll on my sanity. And poorly written doesn't even begin to describe the horror Hence, mafia break.
What are the papers about?
Social problems, like drug abuse or racial profiling or teen pregnancy. Some are really good (some as in 5 out of almost 60). Most are adequate or just below par. Far too many are either atrociously written or blatantly plagiarized. And they've had four months to write and revise them.

I feel like my brain is leaking out of my ears. But I'm also done for the day. Thank goodness.

I sympathise Been there...

I feel like I should be insulted no one wanted to pick the same team as me

thellama73 wrote:
Roxy wrote:LOL
Made and llama is there a particular reason for your vote placement - so early and without so much as have an apple?
I'm a decisive person.

BWT doesn't want to play? Let him have his wish.

Also, Made and I voted for the same car on Day 0, so I feel like we need to play similarly to each other.

thellama73 wrote: Then why not vote MP?

Roxy wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Roxy wrote:I am voting llama. I've got a feeling.
I love you too, Roxy.
I am glad to play with people who know me - its nice srsly <3

I hope that zinger wasn't meant for me :P I'm kidding.

Personally, I don't get all the early voting. To me, all it does is garner reactions that are allowed to be humorous because no one can really take them serious, hence it helps the baddies blend it.

limki: why do you need a vote on the board? Did I miss something? Do we not have 48 hours?

MovingPictures07 wrote:
FZ. wrote:
Roxy wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Roxy wrote:I am voting llama. I've got a feeling.
I love you too, Roxy.
I am glad to play with people who know me - its nice srsly <3
I hope that zinger wasn't meant for me :P I'm kidding.

Personally, I don't get all the early voting. To me, all it does is garner reactions that are allowed to be humorous because no one can really take them serious, hence it helps the baddies blend it.

limki: why do you need a vote on the board? Did I miss something? Do we not have 48 hours?
I don't either, frankly. I missed playing with you over here, FZ.

But it seems the trend in games anymore to have changeable votes (personally, I don't like them, but that's just my preference). I used changeable votes in Doctor Who, especially early on in the game, to vote the person that currently was highest on my , and whether I kept the vote on them was usually specified in my posts.

I don't feel comfortable ending the day period with my Rox vote, but I do think it was odd she was like "WTF with the early votes?" then turned around and made one herself. I just wanted to make her and others aware of that. It also is an easier way to start discussion; players are less apt to ignore suspicions if you've accompanied a vote with them.

I presume something better will come up and I'll change it, but if I don't or if I miss the vote, then at least I have a vote of some ping registered.

It's really a case of "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em". Normally I would never vote this early, personally. Can't speak for why everyone else is voting the way they are.

The feeling is mutual

By the looks of it, you're much more vocal then your last few games. Any reason for that?
I get that. We used to do a lot of voting on the first day to start the game rolling, but a. not used to it here, and b. in my opinion, if it's just followed by a joke, it does the opposite of what it's supposed to do

nijuukyugou wrote:Hello, everyone! I am pleased to see there aren't 7 pages of reading to catch up on (of course, when I have the time off to read...but no complaints here )

Why are people voting so early? And for hardly any reasoning behind their votes? I see "to make them talk," "because I feel like it," and "as a placeholder." Seems like an easy way to hide your bad vote if you're bad. I'll wait a bit before I make my decision since we have until tomorrow, but these votes ping me something awful.

I don't like this post. First of all, you obviously read the thread to know that the people voted for no reason, so how come you're asking something that I already asked and that was already discussed? If you did read it, why be redundant? Why not put in something of your own?
Also, in what way do they ping you? Does someone specific catch your eye, or is this just your baddie way of saying something without really committing to anything?

By the way, I just refresh instead of going back when I have the time out thing, and then it's just posted

I want to vote ninja, but I'm hesitating seeing how fast people jumped on that wagon.

Funny I didn't get the linki. Okay Ninja, can you say, out of those people who voted for you, who caught your eye the most.

I'm not sure I liked Llama's reasons. I would be okay with the "I don't want to die", but the fact that he felt the need to add a joke there, makes me think he's worried about how he's going to appear, so he throws in a joke

How about MP? He seems a bit eager to please. He keeps seeing my point of view, and explains things. Not sure I've ever seen civvie MP do that. Can anyone share their thoughts about MP? Does it feel genuine to you?

thellama73 wrote:
FZ. wrote:Funny I didn't get the linki. Okay Ninja, can you say, out of those people who voted for you, who caught your eye the most.

I'm not sure I liked Llama's reasons. I would be okay with the "I don't want to die", but the fact that he felt the need to add a joke there, makes me think he's worried about how he's going to appear, so he throws in a joke
I always throw in a joke when I am having fun. It is because I am merry.

I don't remember you being that merry in the Monopoly game (Can I talk about it since we're both dead?)

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Roxy wrote:MP - what do you think of Sabie's vote for teeth saying he is not participating when they both have added the same amount of nothing to the thread?

She only has more posts bc of ot posts.
You know, I'm not sure. I certainly don't like it. But I don't know whether it's just not understanding her logic and she's civvie, or whether she's a baddie trying to find a way to save her teammate or just needed to come up with a reason to vote someone.

FZ. wrote:How about MP? He seems a bit eager to please. He keeps seeing my point of view, and explains things. Not sure I've ever seen civvie MP do that. Can anyone share their thoughts about MP? Does it feel genuine to you?
What?

And I didn't get Snow Dog's answer either

I'm not sure how I seem eager to please. I'm vocal in expressing agreement and disagreement. God forbid I agree with you because you and I generally see eye to eye on matters (something I believe we've both noted).

What do you mean by "explains things"? I'm confused.

Snow Dog wrote:
FZ. wrote:How about MP? He seems a bit eager to please. He keeps seeing my point of view, and explains things. Not sure I've ever seen civvie MP do that. Can anyone share their thoughts about MP? Does it feel genuine to you?
Yes...

....and no!
What is this supposed to mean?

Why do I not seem genuine? Or is that not what you were saying?

Okay, I like your answer. But recently, you started out every game suspicious of me, so this agreement thing surprised me. And by explaining, I meant that you went into detail when answering people's questions when no one else did. Could be you're the only polite person in around, though.

MovingPictures07 wrote:That said, I have no real reason to suspect you just yet, FZ., and I've found your attempts to baddie hunt genuine.

Okay, what do you think of llama so far?

sabie12 wrote:I'm just not very good at this game apparently, but my vote for BWT was because he didn't vote in the first poll. I always think that's a bad thing and then everyone jumps on me for thinking its bad to miss a vote. Isn't it? I wanted to make sure I got my vote in because I wasn't sure if I would be too busy to do so later. Sorry I didn't have any wonderfully thought out logic behind it. As far as ninja goes idk I'm seeing it as an I want to post something and be involved in the conversation post rather than anything crazy. I mean no I don't expect anyone to ping or do anything obviously baddie the first day but there's always that possibility I guess.

I think that sometimes, the first day is the best place to find baddies. While civvies are really relaxed and have nothing to hide, the baddies do, and sometimes they just push a little too hard. After the first day, theories and conspiracies take over and it's somehow easier to trick people because of wifom and how we go in circles in our minds. At least I do.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
FZ. wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:That said, I have no real reason to suspect you just yet, FZ., and I've found your attempts to baddie hunt genuine.
Okay, what do you think of llama so far?
I'm not sure yet. He's pinged me a bit, but I feel I've been extra bad about reading him anymore.

What do you think of him?

Something about his reactions seems too cheerful or merry, as he calls it, to feel genuine. But I know he gets lynched often on day 1, so I wonder if it's one of those instances

MovingPictures07 wrote:
FZ. wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
FZ. wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:That said, I have no real reason to suspect you just yet, FZ., and I've found your attempts to baddie hunt genuine.
Okay, what do you think of llama so far?
I'm not sure yet. He's pinged me a bit, but I feel I've been extra bad about reading him anymore.

What do you think of him?
Something about his reactions seems too cheerful or merry, as he calls it, to feel genuine. But I know he gets lynched often on day 1, so I wonder if it's one of those instances
Good point re: baddies on D1. Never thought of it that way before.

Regarding this, yeah, I don't know. I haven't seen enough actual baddie hunting from him yet, but I'm not sure as to his alignment really at all right now. I wouldn't say his behavior so far is out of character for his personality, so I'm hesitant to let him seeming too careless as indicative of baddieness.

I don't know. When I talk about baddies pushing a little too much, the line where he explains why he's voting Nunju strikes me as a good example for that. I'm kind of torn between those two. No one else caught my attention other than that so far.

Mister Rearranger wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Switched my vote to Boogs for now since BWT showed up. Here's hoping it gets Boogs to talk.
I did this one game where I just moved my vote down the line to people who hadn't posted yet.

I don't remember how well it worked or what my alignment was though...

This is all you have to say?

Kate wrote:I was going to say the same thing about Mp the fz said about him. By the time I read through the thread she had changed her mind on him. Not sure I have though.

I was surprised how easily he changed his vote off rox and seemed to do so following a trend of people doing the same.

Wouldn't you think he might be more guarded with his shifting as a baddie?

Mister Rearranger wrote:
FZ. wrote:
Mister Rearranger wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Switched my vote to Boogs for now since BWT showed up. Here's hoping it gets Boogs to talk.
I did this one game where I just moved my vote down the line to people who hadn't posted yet.

I don't remember how well it worked or what my alignment was though...
This is all you have to say?
Hi, FZ!

It's all I had time to say. I'd hope to have an idea of where to vote by now, but I pulled extra hours at work yesterday and today. :/

Hey

Well, you still have time to read through. Can't wait to hear what you think

MR, so what are you saying? Do you think Kate is suspicious, or do you think Snow Dog is, or both?

I was wondering about Snow Dog. He (is it a "he" or a she"?) kept joking that he might vote MP, then vote llama, but ended up voting ninju. While the former were with a sarcastic tone, the latter did not really send a genuine vibe.

Mister Rearranger wrote:Voting Snow Dog.

I get the vibe that this Niji or Llama choice would be civ or civ. I want to hear from Kate too.

The playfulness of Snow's post above strikes me as off, if that makes any sense.

Linkidueto timeouts: Both haha. See above. Kate's was more of a serious question because I did a quick readthrough, but I don't understand if her comment was hyperbole or not.

I get the vote for Snow Dog, though I think that if both ninju and llama are civs, and Snow Dog a baddie, then he would probably not want to look bad when they come out civ, so I assume he'd let someone else be the one to decide between them and try to stay out of the line of fire (not necessarily but likely).
As for Kate, I think that even though MP was the second to vote for ninju, he was the fourth to voice suspicions.

What do you make of Splints reason for voting Roxy, and her leaving it there and not coming back to do something with it?

I kind of feel like voting for Splints, though I don't want to waste a vote. Anyone wants to join me?

Roxy wrote:Well she (splints) did she was not leaving it there and would be back to vote later.

Oh. I'm stuck. Even though I don't feel great about either llama or Ninju, I don't feel comfortable voting either, so I need to decide and I really need to go to bed

Mister Rearranger wrote:
FZ. wrote: I get the vote for Snow Dog, though I think that if both ninju and llama are civs, and Snow Dog a baddie, then he would probably not want to look bad when they come out civ, so I assume he'd let someone else be the one to decide between them and try to stay out of the line of fire (not necessarily but likely).
As for Kate, I think that even though MP was the second to vote for ninju, he was the fourth to voice suspicions.
Ok, thank you for clarifying! I'm in a bit of a rush so I was wondering if I missed some of that suspicion (I obviously then saw that you'd brought up Nij's name too, so yeah at least 3rd).

I see the rationale in your thought process re:Snow too. Perhaps he genuinely believes he's jumping on a wagon to catch a baddie (Nij), idk. But if he does, it doesn't rule out the possibility of him being from just one faction of the baddies.

I do feel like Llama is more of an enigma to me than most players. Niji semi-fooled me last game too.

It doesn't rule him out from being a baddie on another team, but I think he'd want to be more careful because he's the first to look at (for bandwagoning), if she flips civvie).

Roxy wrote:LC's vote still on Teeth - which felt off when he made it - is what I keep coming back to.

What was his reasoning?

And what's up with Simon and Hedge?

I have to go to sleep. I think that if niju was a baddie, one of her team would make sure to vote llama since she's the closest to being lynched. So I think she's a civ. Question is, is llama one? Is it a civ vs. a civ, or is llama a baddie?

Also interesting is the fact that after llama got his third vote from Black Rock, ninju received all her votes. While I can see 1-2 being genuine, the fact that all votes went to the same person makes me think someone is trying to protect llama.
I'm going with llama

Bummer. RIP Niju.

I feel like Roxy is someone I feel relatively good about, so if it's something that is supposed to benefit the person chosen, I'll probably vote for her

Roxy wrote:RIP Nij! I did have a feeling that llama and Nij were both civ. Day 1's can be so tough.

Thanks for the confidence FZ. And MP.
I am returning the favor to FZ this time.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone! <3

Linky splints - htywilyhyhagd!! <3

If you're really a civ, I'd rather you vote for yourself. If you aren't, leave it on me

fingersplints wrote:
FZ. wrote:
Roxy wrote:RIP Nij! I did have a feeling that llama and Nij were both civ. Day 1's can be so tough.

Thanks for the confidence FZ. And MP.
I am returning the favor to FZ this time.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone! <3

Linky splints - htywilyhyhagd!! <3
If you're really a civ, I'd rather you vote for yourself. If you aren't, leave it on me
So you are saying if she is a baddie then voting you is a good option?

If it's something good, I'd rather she gave it to me then to her if she's bad

DFaraday wrote:Is there any particular reason people think Roxy is civ?

At the end of the day, I felt like she genuinely was trying not to lynch a civ, but I could be wrong

Roxy wrote:
FZ. wrote:
Roxy wrote:RIP Nij! I did have a feeling that llama and Nij were both civ. Day 1's can be so tough.

Thanks for the confidence FZ. And MP.
I am returning the favor to FZ this time.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone! <3

Linky splints - htywilyhyhagd!! <3
If you're really a civ, I'd rather you vote for yourself. If you aren't, leave it on me
I am not sure I get your logic but I will change my vote.

If you're a civ like you seem to me, and if it's a good thing like I hope it is, I don't want a baddie getting it, so you voting me and me voting you, won't help you get more votes.

Glad no one died. And I wonder what the race results mean. I will barely be here today also, since I'm not around on Fridays.

I still feel like llama isn't contributing anything to the game, no matter how merry he is

MovingPictures07 wrote:
birdwithteeth11 wrote:Alright. So I am now finally caught up. And here's what I have so far.

-Ninja took quite a bit of flak for her post where she questioned why so many people were voting early on Day 1. And from what I gathered, llama got heat for seeming to be jumping on an "easy case". But I thought a lot of people seemed way too eager to vote for ninja, even with it being Day 1 and all. So I will be taking a good look at everyone who voted for her and got her lynched.

- Sabie and LC voted for me because I hadn't shown up. After I did show up, both of them continued to leave their votes on me. I remember sabie actively stating she was leaving her vote on me for missing the Day 0 poll. Honestly, if that's the only poll I miss, that doesn't mean anything at all. I've just been really busy this week and only had enough time/energy to check in once. I do find it odd that LC said he'd leave his vote on me because he "didn't feel the need" with Ninja ahead of me in the votes. But I'm more likely to give him a pass on it than sabie.

Yeah, that's all I've got so far.
What about Made and Boogs that voted for me basically for no reason whatsoever? And all of the llama voters?

You think you should look ONLY at the Ninja voters nonetheless?

See, here's the logical fallacy we always run into as players. Consider this:

Llama is civ. (I'm not saying he is, I have no idea, this is just a scenario). Let's switch the number of votes that struck Llama and Blooper yesterday. Llama gets flipped. Then who would everyone be looking at? Llama's voters. Even though there were plenty of players who voted each, and each were civ, the players who get exclusively eyeballed by the masses are the voters of the lynchee, even though it's possible baddies voted for either player.

That's the problem I always have with looking solely at the "______ voters" for each lynch. Yes, they should be considered, but I think others should get the and be forced to disclose their intentions as well. Because we honestly have no idea what the baddies did last lynch: whether they bandwagoned onto Blooper, bandwagoned onto Llama, or threw off onto me or you or someone else.

I agree with this. I think that at the first day, the baddies don't want to look bandwagoning, especially if the person they vote for gets lynched. So if llama is a civ too (which at this point, I don't think is true, but we'll see), then I think that we need to look for baddies in the first few voters for each person. Baddies like to look like they have their own agenda, and like their building their own case.

Made wrote:
Made wrote:I would of voted Ninja, thought i am critical of FZ. In recent memory the earliest most compelling argument seems to be made by a baddie, (Ketterman in Misfits namely) but it's a strong point, and i'd be stupid to ignore it.
posted this before Ninja's role was announced, but after the vote ended. Didn't mean to leave my vote on MP. Personally, I would like to look critically at FZ, but other than that no pings atm.

also, Bandwagon/=/ Mafia. With that said, there's multiple ways to look at yesterday, but the way that makes the most sense to me is mafia faux baddie hunting. From my little experience as baddie, it seems- early on anyways- Mafia just sits back and doesn't manipulate crazy hard until they have to.

That said, there is always the chance that their hand was force and d1 we almost did find a baddie, based on votes, this would make Llama a likely baddie.

But Mafia hopping on a bloops bandwagon this early on just seems foolish unless they had an alternative reason.

The two parts of your post don't work together logically. If we almost caught a baddie, then I'm the one who would have been responsible for his lynch. As for Niju, I thought at the time that her reaction was fake because it had already been discussed in the thread, and I did plan to vote for her at that time, but when I came back to vote, I saw all the bandwagoning, and started looking elsewhere, and ended with voting llama. I'd like to know why you're choosing me of all people to look at.

Mister Rearranger wrote:Blooper is the name of the squid monster in Mario games (aka: Nij's user icon).

birdwithteeth11 wrote:
So basically, we have 7 people who fall under the category of either joke or bandwagon votes: Made, Boogs, MP, DFaraday, llama, Snow Dog, and possibly, but much less likely, Ambray.

It seems like possible baddie manipulation may play a part into it as well, since the votes were spread out enough. So that might be another thing to look into as well.

Llama's flippance seems like a common thing to me. I don't see his chaotic/jokey voting as unusual, nor is it indicative of good or bad alignment. He's worth looking into, for sure. But I feel like he often makes for an easy bandwagon target because of his eccentricities.

I continue to feel the way I felt about Snowie's vote, even after he apparently changed it. That's the impasse I'm at for now.[/quote]Why? This just seems like a way to keep an idea going without explaining anything

Trying agin

Mister Rearranger wrote:Blooper is the name of the squid monster in Mario games (aka: Nij's user icon).

birdwithteeth11 wrote:
So basically, we have 7 people who fall under the category of either joke or bandwagon votes: Made, Boogs, MP, DFaraday, llama, Snow Dog, and possibly, but much less likely, Ambray.

It seems like possible baddie manipulation may play a part into it as well, since the votes were spread out enough. So that might be another thing to look into as well.
Llama's flippance seems like a common thing to me. I don't see his chaotic/jokey voting as unusual, nor is it indicative of good or bad alignment. He's worth looking into, for sure. But I feel like he often makes for an easy bandwagon target because of his eccentricities.

I continue to feel the way I felt about Snowie's vote, even after he apparently changed it. That's the impasse I'm at for now.

Why? This just seems like a way to keep a suspicion going without having to explain anything

Made wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Made, why do you think FZ. is bad? How do you reconcile it with your theory based on your experience as a baddie (which is typically accurate, although it is hard to summarize different games with different players on the team)?

Snowy, I'm not saying I suspect you for those votes. I just am saying I'm not sure how to reconcile your behavior. You are in my "I have no idea about you right now" zone along with some others. And regarding whether I check if someone voted for me, yes I do, but I couldn't recall whether you actually voted me or not amid all the votes and moving and such. I'll take your word for it that you didn't, since I don't recall seeing it there.

Okay. Gone. Only reason I'm here is because this is way more fun than working. :P But I'll be back tonight, I think.
Assuming my theories correct, FZ would be a hypothetical strong arm baddie similar to Ketterman or SVS in Misfits. FZ works to hide a quieter teammate by sucking all the air out of the room, but in a way that polarizes him, allowing him to survive for a while in a fashion similar to how i survived in Monty Python. FZ also could be a Llama in Monty Python, so iunno. Just want to make sure his name is on the table at this point.

I'm female, and I have no idea what you just said (and no, the two parts don't have a causal relationship

). Are you saying I am taking over the thread? Also, who am I supposedly hiding?

Made wrote:
FZ. wrote:
Made wrote:
Made wrote:I would of voted Ninja, thought i am critical of FZ. In recent memory the earliest most compelling argument seems to be made by a baddie, (Ketterman in Misfits namely) but it's a strong point, and i'd be stupid to ignore it.
posted this before Ninja's role was announced, but after the vote ended. Didn't mean to leave my vote on MP. Personally, I would like to look critically at FZ, but other than that no pings atm.

also, Bandwagon/=/ Mafia. With that said, there's multiple ways to look at yesterday, but the way that makes the most sense to me is mafia faux baddie hunting. From my little experience as baddie, it seems- early on anyways- Mafia just sits back and doesn't manipulate crazy hard until they have to.

That said, there is always the chance that their hand was force and d1 we almost did find a baddie, based on votes, this would make Llama a likely baddie.

But Mafia hopping on a bloops bandwagon this early on just seems foolish unless they had an alternative reason.
The two parts of your post don't work together logically. If we almost caught a baddie, then I'm the one who would have been responsible for his lynch. As for Niju, I thought at the time that her reaction was fake because it had already been discussed in the thread, and I did plan to vote for her at that time, but when I came back to vote, I saw all the bandwagoning, and started looking elsewhere, and ended with voting llama. I'd like to know why you're choosing me of all people to look at.
I'm choosing you because an early strong sounding argument imo is possible baddie behavior in my book.

As for my argument, My point contradicts themselves because i'm weighing all options and factors i could think of against each other. I don't have enough faith in my suspicion to make an argument against you, but enough to start a dialogue
linki- My bad re:gender

And no, i'm just saying you're baddie hunting, What i'm trying to determine is if it's genuine. And Iunno who you're hiding, i'm just considering the possibility that you are.

Okay then. I actually get what you're saying about early good reasoning, though I still believe it was good reasoning. I like looking at people closely on the first day, because like I said before, they sometimes reveal themselves more than in later days.

I didn't like LC vote just now either. If you want to stir things up, and vote a temporary vote, go for it. But when you accompany it with a "I'm not sure I'll make it for deadline", it just seems like an excuse to vote something that requires no consequences. If you're not going to be here later, look better at those who have posted and decide who is acting like a baddie

thellama73 wrote:
Ambray wrote:[quote="birdwithteeth11"

So basically, we have 7 people who fall under the category of either joke or bandwagon votes: Made, Boogs, MP, DFaraday, llama, Snow Dog, and possibly, but much less likely, Ambray.
Not sure how my vote can be classed as a bandwagon when I was the first one to bring him up and vote for him.

Who is blooper that people keep talking about?

MP - in regards to llama, I don't really remember why there were votes on him from D1, so I will have to go back an re read what happened.

Alright I'm dropping my vote in am day for now. She doesn't I a me that well and this post rang insincere to me. I think she saw defending me albeit non commitally as a way to gain civvie free. Going with my gut![/quote]
You want to talk about insincere posts? Yours is a serious contender for that title.

fingersplints wrote:So, it seems like BR is very busy, but that is two weird votes now.

Black Rock wrote:I voted for Llama for now, cause I feel bad for BWT.

Black Rock wrote:I'm going to drop a vote on Dom for now, no good reason except that I'm stirring the pot. I am also voting now because I am quite busy today and may miss the vote otherwise.
Rox, I know you expressed concern about her day 1 vote. How are you feeling about it now? I can't say it makes me feel great about her. I know she seems busy but it seems like there is a lot of stuff going on in the thread and could have found any reason to vote.

Oops, I made a mistake earlier when I thought it was LC that voted Dom, I meant BR. But the point stands. I didn't like her vote and her reasoning, nor the fact that she did it even though she knows this vote will probably be her final vote.
While I can get silly reasons for a day 1 vote, I can't accept them for day 2.
For me it's between LC and llama at this point

Long Con wrote:Don't really get FZ voting for me for something BR did, but maybe I need to re-read it. Going into work now, voting MP.

Lol, I'm sorry, I keep confusing you and BR. I meant it's between llama and BR, not you.

MovingPictures07 wrote:FZ., what do you think of Snowy?

I don't know, I don't get a bad feeling about him, even though I don't agree with his theory regarding you.His "hopping" on day 1 felt legit to me, because it started out with teasing, but he only changed once, if I remember correctly, so that didn't worry me. His last sarcastic comment about not knowing that what he did is a baddie behaviour felt genuine. But I don't know him at all, so I can't really tell.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Also, now it appears LC has voted for me and I do NOT want to die.

I don't want you to die either, because you seem civ to me. If we both vote for either llama or BR, who's more likely to get more votes?

MovingPictures07 wrote:Maybe I'm just getting paranoid, but that question sort of bothered me, FZ. It seemed to indicate to me you don't care which one of them gets lynched.

It's more of that I don't really know which one. llama gave me a bad feeling from the first day, but people keep saying he's an easy lynch because he's like that, so I'm thinking maybe I'm wrong, and with BR, it's that one post, which really pinged me, but it's one thing. So neither is like a sure thing. I'd rather you not die, and since I'm not feeling too good about either of them, I want to make sure it's one of them and not you.

Ambray wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Ambray wrote:[quote="birdwithteeth11"

So basically, we have 7 people who fall under the category of either joke or bandwagon votes: Made, Boogs, MP, DFaraday, llama, Snow Dog, and possibly, but much less likely, Ambray.
Not sure how my vote can be classed as a bandwagon when I was the first one to bring him up and vote for him.

Who is blooper that people keep talking about?

MP - in regards to llama, I don't really remember why there were votes on him from D1, so I will have to go back an re read what happened.
Alright I'm dropping my vote in am day for now. She doesn't I a me that well and this post rang insincere to me. I think she saw defending me albeit non commitally as a way to gain civvie free. Going with my gut!

Lol, that is classed as defending someone nowadays? Yikes!!

Lots of strong opinions - speaking in very black and white terms already - "Person A is civvie" "Person B is baddie" That's cricking my brow a bit. Nothing that makes me want to vote for anybody yet, but something to keep an eye on.

If anything I read Snowy pulling a "no u" on MP, not the other way round? Perhaps I need to re read that. However I'm not picking up any bad vibes from Snowy yet.

Oosh, I don't know who I'm voting for just yet, but it'll have to be soon.
I want to hear from Hedgeowl. Memorable to me from D1 but I haven't seen anything from them since.[/quote]
To me, saying someone is a civ or baddie doesn't mean you're sure about them, but rather it's your current perceptions. Don't see what's the big deal. For instance, MP strikes me as more civ, so I'd really rather see someone I'm not getting that vibe from get lynched rather than him

@linki: Seriously, they are married?

MovingPictures07 wrote:
FZ. wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Maybe I'm just getting paranoid, but that question sort of bothered me, FZ. It seemed to indicate to me you don't care which one of them gets lynched.
It's more of that I don't really know which one. llama gave me a bad feeling from the first day, but people keep saying he's an easy lynch because he's like that, so I'm thinking maybe I'm wrong, and with BR, it's that one post, which really pinged me, but it's one thing. So neither is like a sure thing. I'd rather you not die, and since I'm not feeling too good about either of them, I want to make sure it's one of them and not you.
I understand, the wording of your post just was strange considering.

That, when combined with the fact SO MANY people have been vouching for you or issuing no opinions, is odd. I know I'm one of those players, and that I'm on my lonesome and that my thoughts on you are just based on my interpretation, so I realize it could just be a coincidence -- but as I said, this is my paranoia thinking.

I realize, though, that my interpretation is almost never that accurate, so I wouldn't say I feel really that confident about anything.

Are there any other players you would consider at this point other than BR or Llama or not?

What about the argument that neither of them would be behave the way they are if they were bad?

Just trying to discuss it with you, to bounce ideas, because I'm not really sure myself.

Linki w/ Rox: Glad I'm not the only one picking up a different vibe with Snowy. I'm not totally sure what to make of it personally, but that one post just seemed insincere to me -- it wasn't even really the idea he proposed being a poor suspicion, just seemed like it was off to me, like he made it up.

I'm paranoid like that too, I get it. I thought you agreeing with me so much was alarming, but lately I seem to be warming up to you

All the people vouching for me took me by surprise too. There's MR that I talked to a little before deadline last day, so it could be that he felt good about me, but his vote today seemed a little off to me. He said Snow Dog felt fishy last day, and the vibe carries on to this day, and that's it. Sometimes, I find that baddies stick to that one person they found suspicious and stay with him to not look like they change their mind and go with the flow. So I wonder if that's the case here

Ambray wrote:
FZ. wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Maybe I'm just getting paranoid, but that question sort of bothered me, FZ. It seemed to indicate to me you don't care which one of them gets lynched.
It's more of that I don't really know which one. llama gave me a bad feeling from the first day, but people keep saying he's an easy lynch because he's like that, so I'm thinking maybe I'm wrong, and with BR, it's that one post, which really pinged me, but it's one thing. So neither is like a sure thing. I'd rather you not die, and since I'm not feeling too good about either of them, I want to make sure it's one of them and not you.
Suddenly you're not giving me warm and fuzzies anymore.

That's not my intention in the game

But I would love to know what exactly your problem is. Actually, since at the moment I don't find you that suspicious, I don't care.

Made wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Maybe I'm just getting paranoid, but that question sort of bothered me, FZ. It seemed to indicate to me you don't care which one of them gets lynched.
how she decides to answer this question will probably finalize where i leave my vote.

Rereading the case against BR, making sure i'm not confusing it with LC's thing

I already have. Look it up.

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