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by DharmaHelper
Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:32 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 0]

insertnamehere wrote:So, let me preface this by saying that I am by no means, an expert at coding. This was the first really big program that I've decided to make. It could work, it could not, I'm going to try and see.

I've created a program that goes into every poster's game history, specifically games where they were bad, and sees what their top phrases or words are. It then contrasts those with the top words or phrases from a persons post history when they were good. It then eliminates the words that were on both lists, leaving us with that person's tells. After that, it goes into this thread, and sees how many times someone uses words or phrases identified as tells. The higher that number is, the more likely chance you are to be bad. This was a bitch to make, and it's something I've worked on for a long time, a bit of a pet project if you will.

Now, of course, because of the limited sample size, the program is more likely to be incorrect these first few days, but, as more and more people post, I know more and more about their role.

To summarize, I'm the NSA now, bitches.
It took you 4 days to write 9 roles. Nice try.
by DharmaHelper
Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:54 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 0]

The poll for me is an obvious choice. my best game by a mile was Misfits mafia. I started as a civ and got recruited, and was able to use the good will I'd accumulated in order to coast to victory. My team in that game was top notch as well. So, that to me is a clear and classic example of my "best game". Being able to not only hide in plain sight, but to recognize and manipulate the thread to fit what I needed at any given time.

Though the poll doesn't ask for my "best game". The poll asks for my greatest accomplishment. And while making the civvies dance on strings all the way 'round to the finish line is a pretty good accomplishment, in the grand, "Champion" scheme of things, that sort of play is, in a word, unexceptional. It would be shameful if, as a "Champion", I was UNABLE to do what I did in Misfits. So, while that was a great performance, it won't get my vote in the poll.

My best accomplishment has to have been in Fight Club mafia. As a testament to the gravitas and legend that is myself, I endured in Fight Club long past my (totally bullshit and completely uncalled for and 100% whack) NK by the (totally bullshit and completely whack and a curse on your cow and a pox on your bloodline may you walk a mile of broken glass with lemon wedges for shoes) police force. I had fought, schemed, and done all the sort of usually great things one comes to expect from a "Champion" caliber player. The genius, the remarkable thing about my performance, is that long after I had been NK'd, and the game had shifted to its next phase, the thread ran wild with theories and speculations surrounding yours truly. Like Kaiser Soze himself, i had risen into mythological status. I had transcended mortal mafia play and become something else entirely. That my team was able to use my life and death in that game to their advantage so masterfully, so exactly, speaks volumes to their genius as well.

So, my best game? Misfits. My best accomplishment however, dear Host? Becoming Kaiser Motherfucking Soze in Fight Club.
by DharmaHelper
Mon Jan 05, 2015 12:00 am
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 0]

Made wrote:Misfits. Getting everyone on the civvie team convinced that killing me was in their best intrest (which it was) While predicting every mafia but 1 (glares at squid)?

Gg me.
You were very helpful for us during Misfits. Props. :feb:
by DharmaHelper
Mon Jan 05, 2015 11:01 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

I will remain alert as to suspicious activity from those who are participating first, and then if I come up dry with that approach, look at non-participating players.

Linki: Well things are off to a roaring start.
by DharmaHelper
Mon Jan 05, 2015 11:09 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

Dom wrote:
Boomslang wrote:Excellent, game on. The Day 0 poll really doesn't give us much to go on compared to previous games, but those who failed to check in are certainly the outliers here.
Does being an outlier make them bad?
Not bad, but certainly not useful. Non-participating players are the appendix of mafia games. Eventually that shit will burst and could do a lot of damage.
by DharmaHelper
Mon Jan 05, 2015 11:28 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

Humorous antics are an often effective way to deflect suspicion in the early days of mafia games.
by DharmaHelper
Mon Jan 05, 2015 11:56 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

thellama73 wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Humorous antics are an often effective way to deflect suspicion in the early days of mafia games.
Do you think so? My experience is that people often get lynched wrongly for humorous antics in the early days of mafia games, while baddies lay low or pretend to be helpful.
In my experience, if someone gets a couple chuckles, and plays the court jester. it creates a mindset that "this person can't possibly be bad, look how ridiculous they're acting. Plus, they're funny so I want to keep them around and see what else they've got that is funny"

It's a common, effective tactic. Put your enemy at ease, make them either underestimate you.
by DharmaHelper
Tue Jan 06, 2015 12:02 am
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

EBWOP: Or enjoy your antics too much to want to vote for you*
by DharmaHelper
Tue Jan 06, 2015 12:05 am
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

The question then becomes are you staying on task to avoid suspicion or staying on task in order to legitimately contribute?
by DharmaHelper
Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:01 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

reywaS wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Humorous antics are an often effective way to deflect suspicion in the early days of mafia games.
Can I assume since you responded with this 7 minutes after I voted for metalmarsh that this is directed at me? If it was directed at me, I must ask what makes it a humorous tactic? Why is it a humorous tactic as opposed to any legitimate attempt at playing the game?
It was directed at both yourself and Metalmarsh. Both of you pulled early votes, with identical reasoning (even if your reasoning had slightly more merit than Metalmarsh, since I assume you voted for him not for "no reason" but rather because of his vote.)

He voted quite early and gave a terrible reason for doing so. You voted quite early and parroted his reason, I'm guessing as a joke. I found that situation funny.

I wouldn't go so far as to say either vote was a legitimate attempt at playing the game, though. If that were either of your intentions, you probably would have waited a bit to throw down a vote.
by DharmaHelper
Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:04 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

Lizzy wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Humorous antics are an often effective way to deflect suspicion in the early days of mafia games.
Wut? I know | missed a lot of games, butt this would often get Llama, myself, Vmops, Matt lynched in the early stages of the game k. :sigh:

I speak from personal experience when I say this:

Trust me, "humorous antics" has nothing to do with why that grouping of players is lynched frequently. At least not in games I've been a part of.
by DharmaHelper
Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:22 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

DharmaHelper wrote:
reywaS wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Humorous antics are an often effective way to deflect suspicion in the early days of mafia games.
Can I assume since you responded with this 7 minutes after I voted for metalmarsh that this is directed at me? If it was directed at me, I must ask what makes it a humorous tactic? Why is it a humorous tactic as opposed to any legitimate attempt at playing the game?
It was directed at both yourself and Metalmarsh.
by DharmaHelper
Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:12 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

zeek wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Not bad, but certainly not useful. Non-participating players are the appendix of mafia games. Eventually that shit will burst and could do a lot of damage.
So guess what happened to me today? I was sent to the hospital with suspected appendicitis... it's not, but the nurses were awfully keen on shipping me out to surgery.
Well at least it worked out in the end. Glad you're ok.

On an unrelated note:

Non-participating players are the suitcases full of money of mafia.....
by DharmaHelper
Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:29 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

reywaS wrote:If I got up in arms about it, LC, I would be badgering DH about the comment instead of just making the 1 post. If my up in arms-ness was just in a single post, I would think that single post would be a good deal longer than what it was. Up in arms, to me, indicates making a federal case out of it. Not almost immediately moving off of it. :shrug:
S~V~S wrote: Since everyone knows I am the person Most Likely to Start a Federal Case out of taking a vote?

:confused:
by DharmaHelper
Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:42 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

S~V~S wrote:Like not Luke sorry autocorrect.

Linki, my mom said it a lot, so I thought so.
Your mom plays mafia?
by DharmaHelper
Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:45 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

Its an odd mafia phrase that I'm not sure I've seen before. Twice in one game seems funky to me.
by DharmaHelper
Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:53 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

Snow Dog wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Its an odd mafia phrase that I'm not sure I've seen before. Twice in one game seems funky to me.
The implication is they may have used the phrase in btsc?
I've never heard that, in or out of mafia, so two uses of the phrase pinged me a bit. My first instinct was possibly teammates, yeah. Admittedly though, seems I'm out of the loop on the lingo front so w/e.

Nothing I was gonna put a vote behind anyway
by DharmaHelper
Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:55 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

bea wrote:or you know. That up there.

Still never hurts to keep an eye on the crafty DH.
As long as you don't go making a federal case.
by DharmaHelper
Tue Jan 06, 2015 4:37 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

Well I've succeeded in making everyone feel old.
by DharmaHelper
Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:18 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

Roxy wrote:DH - you did not make me "feel" old I am old :dance:

Llama :p
Girl, you coulda fooled me.
by DharmaHelper
Tue Jan 06, 2015 6:09 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

Snow Dog wrote:
zeek wrote:Not much to go on, all pretty standard D1 stuff.
Snow Dog wrote:
thellama73 wrote:"make a federal case" out of something is a common idiom in American English. I do not think two people using it is suspicious.
I'm not familiar with it. It's a term I've not seen in a mafia game I've played yet and now it appears written by two people.

But I neither believe or disbeleive the notion. I merely observe
We have no federal cases in Britain. Or maybe they all are. We don't use that terminology though, but I've heard it in movies.
I think there is a misunderstanding. I have heard of a Federal case, but not as an expression used by people.
Now an expression used by goats, on the other hoof...
by DharmaHelper
Tue Jan 06, 2015 6:12 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

Alright already, calm down. Its a slightly less common phrase than you thought. No need to make a federal case out of it.
by DharmaHelper
Tue Jan 06, 2015 6:25 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

thellama73 wrote:Timmer comes off the Apollo Doctrine list! That leaves:
Mongoose
Lorab
and Hedgebaddie.

Just so I'm clear, you are resolved to vote a low poster despite the discussion that has been going on?
by DharmaHelper
Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:35 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

I'll stand by that. It was a completely new phrase to me, and certainly within the mafia context. A ping for sure, as I said. I've also said its nothing at all worth throwing a vote behind. Not on its own anyway.
by DharmaHelper
Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:45 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

Bit of a read, but I knew there was something familiar about this exchange. Deja vu is a real bitch.
DharmaHelper wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
Boogs wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
Boogs wrote:Roxy me being quiet doesn't make me bad but nice scum try. I find it funny that you keep trying to be so talkative about non related things to blend in. And if you are going to think I am bad and that people are "defending" me, on the roles list there is a team of 3 and a team of 2. I don't think Keterman would be that newbie of a player to defend his only teammate or MP by saying he doesn't feel I'm bad yet. That's ballsy to do on Day 2 and running now into Day 3 when there are so many people left. You're totally misreading me Roxy and I didn't lie about anything. Take the post how you will, but the reason I have been quiet is because I honestly don't have much else to say about the subject. I've said my piece and I don't need to repeat myself and go in circles with the same reason I did what I did when I posted. You all see what I said was my reasoning not voting for Sorsha and how it really got me feeling she wasn't bad with that frustrated civ post similar to my own I've made throughout mafia games here before. I could relate, I knew she wasn't bad and I didn't cast my vote for her. I voted the 2nd got getter to help her out and I didn't have feeling on SVS yet so it is a better chance that I save Sorsha (someone I was feeling good about) than SVS (could be a possible anything). Had I not been working and had some time to post before the lynch was ending, I could have said more but I was on my way home and just got off work to check on my phone.
That's all.
Why did you say "scum"?
No particular reason. Why?
It surprised me to see you use it, it is not a word we generally use. I searched your posts here, and this is the only time you have used it. I searched your posts at RM, and you have never used it there, either. It is not a word I would expect from you.
I'm just going to throw this out here and it may not be what you're thinking, but its something I thought while reading Your/Boogs exchange

Do you think Boogs said scum because he and Keterman are in BTSC and Keterman keeps using the mafiascum lingo and it rubbed off somehow?
S~V~S wrote:Kind of.

I like reading what he writes; I like his word choice. I have never seen him use a word like "scum" before. Plus in the context of "scum try". I have seen that phrase used at other forums, we don't generally say "nice baddie try", we say "nice try, baddie". At least as I recall. I could be wrong about that, but it seems awkward to me.

Next thing you know, he'll start saying "the town" instead of "civvies". The saying is "When in Rome, do as the Romans do", not, "When the Romans are in Greece, the Greeks do as the Romans do". Surprising to see he picked that up from someone in a thread, when he never picked it up from K4J or FZ.

Do you think I am wrong? Keterman is defending him & trying to dicredit Roxy pretty hard, imo. School me, oh Great Dharma :noble:
by DharmaHelper
Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:51 pm
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Again I should say nothing I find overly suspicious at this moment in time, but I just thought the coincidence was funny. The same sort of scenario coming up in the game that I won to get to this game, now coming up in this game. Cosmically improbable, yet here we are.

As it stands I'm mulling over a vote for LC.
by DharmaHelper
Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:16 pm
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S~V~S wrote:
Black Rock wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:I think the people voting for the people who voted for no reason have less reason to their vote than the people they are voting for.
I don't think this is true. Why do you say that?
I don't think it's true, either. I hope TH comes back and answers you.

DH, I know I am a fool for this, but I am going to ask you to elaborate here. You don't take time to search forums for no reason. I am seeing a tenuous connection between my behavior in Misfits (where I was a baddie & Boogs a civ, though Keterman was bad) and yours in this game. But I am sure you did not go to all that effort to pull a quote where you are behaving as I did when I was a baddie. So stop with the vague :ponder: and make your point, eh?
I don't think I was being vague at all. I noticed the discussion in *this* game about the phrase "making a federal case" and remembered the discussion in Misfits about "scum tell". As I said, I found the coincidence funny. I'm not pointing any fingers at anyone over it, I just thought that it was something sort-of-kind-of poetic, having that happen in two games.
by DharmaHelper
Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:30 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

thellama73 wrote:I don't think I will be voting for either DH or SVS today.

Somewhere north of 10% of the overall posts ain't too bad if I do say so myself.
by DharmaHelper
Tue Jan 06, 2015 10:15 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

juliets wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Again I should say nothing I find overly suspicious at this moment in time, but I just thought the coincidence was funny. The same sort of scenario coming up in the game that I won to get to this game, now coming up in this game. Cosmically improbable, yet here we are.

As it stands I'm mulling over a vote for LC.
DH can you expand a little on why you are mulling over a vote for LC? What are you seeing?

I don't like his exchange with Rey. I'll let you go back and read it for yourself, but it just did not ring true to me. LC is a good enough player not to want to rush into things with such slapdash and paper-thin logic
by DharmaHelper
Tue Jan 06, 2015 10:34 pm
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reywaS wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
Black Rock wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:I think the people voting for the people who voted for no reason have less reason to their vote than the people they are voting for.
I don't think this is true. Why do you say that?
I don't think it's true, either. I hope TH comes back and answers you.

DH, I know I am a fool for this, but I am going to ask you to elaborate here. You don't take time to search forums for no reason. I am seeing a tenuous connection between my behavior in Misfits (where I was a baddie & Boogs a civ, though Keterman was bad) and yours in this game. But I am sure you did not go to all that effort to pull a quote where you are behaving as I did when I was a baddie. So stop with the vague :ponder: and make your point, eh?
I don't think I was being vague at all. I noticed the discussion in *this* game about the phrase "making a federal case" and remembered the discussion in Misfits about "scum tell". As I said, I found the coincidence funny. I'm not pointing any fingers at anyone over it, I just thought that it was something sort-of-kind-of poetic, having that happen in two games.
This really makes me nervous about you to be honest. You say you just pointed this out because it was "kind of poetic"...and I guess the assumption in this is that you wanted everyone else to share your little chuckle. Maybe that's true, but I know that you are a really smart guy and certainly capable of being subtle with your motives. But when it comes down to it, what you actually did there was draw a connection in people's minds to SVS being a baddie.

:eye: :eye:
Thats a bit of a leap, considering the case in Misfits was that neither party had BTSC together, as they were accused of having. If anything the misfits incident weakens this one.
by DharmaHelper
Tue Jan 06, 2015 10:50 pm
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What connection is that? That she played both games?

Her role (as it relates to the incident in question, not her actual game role) was completely different in that game compared to this one. In Misfits, she took the "slip" and ran with it. Here, she is one of the players who used the phrase in question. There is no link there, nor did I offer up one.

I quoted SVS from Misfits because she was a party within the misfits example. If you can explain to me how I was trying to paint her as a baddie in this particular game based off of the Misfits game, I'm all ears.

That seems kind of flimsy, though.
by DharmaHelper
Tue Jan 06, 2015 11:06 pm
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reywaS wrote:Yeah, you aren't getting my point. I wasn't saying that her behavior in that game in anyway related to her play in this game. My point was that you were mentioning SVS as a baddie from another game in this game and claiming that you weren't comparing the two games. You made a call back to a game where SVS was bad while also mentioning something she said in this game. You don't see how that could possibly paint her in a negative light in this game?
No, I don't. Because the circumstances are different for both games. Let me see if I can explain:

*IF* I had said "SVS did X in this Champions game, and she did X in Misfits when she was bad" Yes, that would be painting her in a negative light.

But, She did X in Misfits and Y in this game. In this game, she is the defender. In Misfits, she was the aggressor. Same play, same cast, different roles. Does that make sense?

This whole thing is irrelevant anyway, as I had/have no intention of pursuing a case based on that. I was just, as I stated, amused by the callback.
by DharmaHelper
Tue Jan 06, 2015 11:08 pm
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thellama73 wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
thellama73 wrote:Timmer comes off the Apollo Doctrine list! That leaves:
Mongoose
Lorab
and Hedgebaddie.
And Mongoose has posted in other places.
She will probably get mad at me for saying this, but she told me she is avoiding logging onto the site because she doesn't want to be asked to do Socky Award related business.
Lol.
by DharmaHelper
Tue Jan 06, 2015 11:34 pm
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Roxy wrote:Would it help if I backed out of the game?

No.
by DharmaHelper
Tue Jan 06, 2015 11:37 pm
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Llama stirring up trouble and spreading lies? Are you sure we're talking about the same guy?
by DharmaHelper
Tue Jan 06, 2015 11:38 pm
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insertnamehere wrote:
Boomslang wrote:
Dom wrote:
Boomslang wrote:Excellent, game on. The Day 0 poll really doesn't give us much to go on compared to previous games, but those who failed to check in are certainly the outliers here.
Does being an outlier make them bad?
My reasoning is that, if the majority of players are civvies, then the majority/average action taken is most likely to be civvie. It's not perfect, but it's playing the odds.
So, the majority of players are civvies, right? And the majority of the people playing this game are men, right? So, therefore, all women are evil and we must lynch all of them.

But really, this is a pretty stupid thing to say. It makes me a little bit nervous about Boomslang, and sounds like a pre-emptive defense for when someone accuses him of being too "blendy" and not coming up with original ideas.

Another player who's caught my eye is DH. He's been fucking hilarious this game, and is almost a parody of how some people play mafia. I'm pretty sure this is intentional, but it reminds me a lot of my very special performance in the first Champions game. It's enough to get both an eye-brow raise and a salute from me.
Thank you and fuck you in equal measure, I guess :haha:
by DharmaHelper
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Long Con wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
juliets wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Again I should say nothing I find overly suspicious at this moment in time, but I just thought the coincidence was funny. The same sort of scenario coming up in the game that I won to get to this game, now coming up in this game. Cosmically improbable, yet here we are.

As it stands I'm mulling over a vote for LC.
DH can you expand a little on why you are mulling over a vote for LC? What are you seeing?

I don't like his exchange with Rey. I'll let you go back and read it for yourself, but it just did not ring true to me. LC is a good enough player not to want to rush into things with such slapdash and paper-thin logic
Which logic exactly was paper-thin? I don't think it makes me not a good player to have cast that vote.

And re: reywaS' point about your S~V~S post... I didn't actually read the whole comparison word-for-word, because it was to block-of-texty, but I thought the gist of it was that you were drawing a deliberate connection to suggest that S~V~S was a baddie. I think you're playing a cavalier kind of game, this isn't the first time this game you've had to do several posts of explanation how you're not really accusing anyone with your "observations".
"You got a little defensive here in this one post" Is a wobbly, weak reason for such an early vote. I don't necessarily care if it is Day 1 or Day 8, a vote is a vote. And you can't honestly tell me it is a civvie thing to do or in the civvies best interest to vote that early for that reason.
by DharmaHelper
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

Long Con wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
Long Con wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
juliets wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Again I should say nothing I find overly suspicious at this moment in time, but I just thought the coincidence was funny. The same sort of scenario coming up in the game that I won to get to this game, now coming up in this game. Cosmically improbable, yet here we are.

As it stands I'm mulling over a vote for LC.
DH can you expand a little on why you are mulling over a vote for LC? What are you seeing?

I don't like his exchange with Rey. I'll let you go back and read it for yourself, but it just did not ring true to me. LC is a good enough player not to want to rush into things with such slapdash and paper-thin logic
Which logic exactly was paper-thin? I don't think it makes me not a good player to have cast that vote.

And re: reywaS' point about your S~V~S post... I didn't actually read the whole comparison word-for-word, because it was to block-of-texty, but I thought the gist of it was that you were drawing a deliberate connection to suggest that S~V~S was a baddie. I think you're playing a cavalier kind of game, this isn't the first time this game you've had to do several posts of explanation how you're not really accusing anyone with your "observations".
"You got a little defensive here in this one post" Is a wobbly, weak reason for such an early vote. I don't necessarily care if it is Day 1 or Day 8, a vote is a vote. And you can't honestly tell me it is a civvie thing to do or in the civvies best interest to vote that early for that reason.
Why not? Are you against generating discussion, and gauging reactions? You'd prefer if everyone voted low posters or random or for no reason?
Look at the amount of discussion I've generated without casting my vote and ask that question again :P As for your second question, I've always said that I prefer to vote with a solid reason, even on Day 1's.
by DharmaHelper
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

I don't think a Day 1 vote has very much in common at all with a Day 8 vote. Most Day 1 votes are cast with pretty weak reasons, and I'd wager that a Day 8 vote cast for Day 1 reasons would cause all sorts of eyeballing. Don't you agree?


A vote is a vote. And in particular if you're playing in a championship game, you better make damn sure you treat your votes like they matter. If I've said it once I've said it a million times, Day 1 votes get far too much disrespect. The game starts on Day 1. Throwaway votes, votes for no reason, etc, are inexcusable and especially so during a championship caliber game.

To continue your line of thought: A Day 8 vote for Day 1 reasons would indeed be weak. A Day 1 vote for a Day 8 reason on the other hand would be something I'd consider Championship worthy.
by DharmaHelper
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

Long Con wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
I don't think a Day 1 vote has very much in common at all with a Day 8 vote. Most Day 1 votes are cast with pretty weak reasons, and I'd wager that a Day 8 vote cast for Day 1 reasons would cause all sorts of eyeballing. Don't you agree?


A vote is a vote. And in particular if you're playing in a championship game, you better make damn sure you treat your votes like they matter. If I've said it once I've said it a million times, Day 1 votes get far too much disrespect. The game starts on Day 1. Throwaway votes, votes for no reason, etc, are inexcusable and especially so during a championship caliber game.

To continue your line of thought: A Day 8 vote for Day 1 reasons would indeed be weak. A Day 1 vote for a Day 8 reason on the other hand would be something I'd consider Championship worthy.
Indeed it would be. I just think it's strange that you would suspect me for voting with a reason, but not those who voted with no real reason.
Well, for one, your reason sucked.
by DharmaHelper
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Spacedaisy wrote:I am going to have to vote this morning since I will likely be driving across country when the vote ends. You all have certainly provided some interesting stuff to go off of however. Here are my thoughts:
I don't find the use of that phrase all that odd. I have made the case before for BTSC showing in similar verbiage but it usually is used closer together than that and more than just one phrase, frequently when discussing the same topic. I don't really think using what I would also consider a common phrase to be a BTSC slip up.
Not to belabor the point, but I've been over this phrase thing for a good long while now.
I don't see what the big deal about LC's vote is either. Rey does seem a bit defensive, nothing I would cast a vote for though, but I don't find it odd that LC did


Difference of oppinion I guess. His vote + the timing of it are enough to warrant serious suspicion IMO. Not just the fact that he voted for Rey or that he did so for the reason he did.
Additionally because LC has been known to do things that seem odd just to shake the tree and see what falls out. I don't think that is what he was doing here either, but given all this I don't find anything out of place with his vote or reason, especially on Day 1.
Wait, walk me through that one more time? You know that LC is known for shaking the tree a bit, so you don't find his vote suspicious, except you don't think he was shaking the tree with his vote? How does that work?

[quote[I do find DH to be slinging strange cases around though. It is not what I would expect from him and is why my Day 1 vote is going to be there. I don't know how I will feel on Day 2, but it is the best I have at this point on Day 1.

*votes DH*[/quote]

That seems kind of backwards. Anyone who knows me knows I do exactly what you just said I don't do.

I dunno. Like I said, maybe its just a difference of opinions. At least you're putting thought into your vote, which I can appreciate.
by DharmaHelper
Wed Jan 07, 2015 9:49 am
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

I'm gonna start working soon, so I will vote now and explain my vote to the best of my ability.

Early voting is suspicious. We can argue this back and forth all we want but at the end of the day, early voting is suspicious.


I know Rey. I know Rey is a gunslinger of a player. As SVS has said, I know Rey is particularly defensive. So when I made my observations, I figured he'd be a little defensive of them, which I was prepared for and accounted for in my ping. LC knows Rey, this shouldn't really come as so much of a shock to him that Rey acted the way he did towards my comments.

I also know LC, though a bit less. LC does not strike me as the sort of guy to not account for something like Rey's style, or the type of guy to vote so early for such a poor reason with so much left to discuss. That he jumped so ravenously onto his Rey vote with reasoning that wasn't even true (He thought Rey was reacting to a post that was not about him. It was.) It just gives me a bad case of the pings.

Speaking of oddly defensive posts:
Long Con wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
Long Con wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
juliets wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Again I should say nothing I find overly suspicious at this moment in time, but I just thought the coincidence was funny. The same sort of scenario coming up in the game that I won to get to this game, now coming up in this game. Cosmically improbable, yet here we are.

As it stands I'm mulling over a vote for LC.
DH can you expand a little on why you are mulling over a vote for LC? What are you seeing?

I don't like his exchange with Rey. I'll let you go back and read it for yourself, but it just did not ring true to me. LC is a good enough player not to want to rush into things with such slapdash and paper-thin logic
Which logic exactly was paper-thin? I don't think it makes me not a good player to have cast that vote.

And re: reywaS' point about your S~V~S post... I didn't actually read the whole comparison word-for-word, because it was to block-of-texty, but I thought the gist of it was that you were drawing a deliberate connection to suggest that S~V~S was a baddie. I think you're playing a cavalier kind of game, this isn't the first time this game you've had to do several posts of explanation how you're not really accusing anyone with your "observations".
"You got a little defensive here in this one post" Is a wobbly, weak reason for such an early vote. I don't necessarily care if it is Day 1 or Day 8, a vote is a vote. And you can't honestly tell me it is a civvie thing to do or in the civvies best interest to vote that early for that reason.
Why not? Are you against generating discussion, and gauging reactions? You'd prefer if everyone voted low posters or random or for no reason?
This sort of tactic, answering a suspicion by asking clearly overblown and hyperbolic questions, is something I don't think any civvie would do, let alone LC as a civvie. It's obvious to anyone who reads the thread that I've been doing my fair share of discussion and encouraging discussion. On top of that, even going so far as to refer to low posters as categorically useless.

So, LC gets my vote.
by DharmaHelper
Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:40 am
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Metalmarsh89 wrote:For the record SVS, my only goal with voting you the way I did was to instigate some real Day 1 discussion. I believe I was successful. I had no suspicion of you then, nor do I have any of you now.

Per my comment on Mongoose, I was not distracting. I just wanted to point out that Mongoose has been logging onto the Syndicate and posting in other places, though she never bothered to check in on Day 0 even for this game.
To whom are you planning on changing your vote?
by DharmaHelper
Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:41 am
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

thellama73 wrote:
Boomslang wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
Boomslang wrote:
Dom wrote:
Boomslang wrote:Excellent, game on. The Day 0 poll really doesn't give us much to go on compared to previous games, but those who failed to check in are certainly the outliers here.
Does being an outlier make them bad?
My reasoning is that, if the majority of players are civvies, then the majority/average action taken is most likely to be civvie. It's not perfect, but it's playing the odds.
So, the majority of players are civvies, right? And the majority of the people playing this game are men, right? So, therefore, all women are evil and we must lynch all of them.

But really, this is a pretty stupid thing to say. It makes me a little bit nervous about Boomslang, and sounds like a pre-emptive defense for when someone accuses him of being too "blendy" and not coming up with original ideas.

Another player who's caught my eye is DH. He's been fucking hilarious this game, and is almost a parody of how some people play mafia. I'm pretty sure this is intentional, but it reminds me a lot of my very special performance in the first Champions game. It's enough to get both an eye-brow raise and a salute from me.
*facepalm* Yes, INH, that's exactly what I'm saying. Justifying sexism from mathematical reasons... I'm disappointed you took my argument off the slippery slope right off the bat.
I think you missed INH's point. He was using reductio ad absurdum to reveal the flaws in your argument (which was indeed flawed) not accusing you of sexism.
Is this Harry Potter mafia?
by DharmaHelper
Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:52 am
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:For the record SVS, my only goal with voting you the way I did was to instigate some real Day 1 discussion. I believe I was successful. I had no suspicion of you then, nor do I have any of you now.

Per my comment on Mongoose, I was not distracting. I just wanted to point out that Mongoose has been logging onto the Syndicate and posting in other places, though she never bothered to check in on Day 0 even for this game.
To whom are you planning on changing your vote?
I don't plan on voting you, but I am certainly unappreciative with your approach today. You've maintained that voting early is suspicious, but somehow forget to bring up my name in that discussion. Players are bound to draw connections there. I do not want your vote, but being ignored is worse.
No offense, but I didn't quite find you relevant enough to discuss. Comparatively speaking, I have bigger fish to fry.
by DharmaHelper
Wed Jan 07, 2015 1:45 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

reywaS wrote:
Long Con wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
juliets wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Again I should say nothing I find overly suspicious at this moment in time, but I just thought the coincidence was funny. The same sort of scenario coming up in the game that I won to get to this game, now coming up in this game. Cosmically improbable, yet here we are.

As it stands I'm mulling over a vote for LC.
DH can you expand a little on why you are mulling over a vote for LC? What are you seeing?

I don't like his exchange with Rey. I'll let you go back and read it for yourself, but it just did not ring true to me. LC is a good enough player not to want to rush into things with such slapdash and paper-thin logic
Which logic exactly was paper-thin? I don't think it makes me not a good player to have cast that vote.

And re: reywaS' point about your S~V~S post... I didn't actually read the whole comparison word-for-word, because it was to block-of-texty, but I thought the gist of it was that you were drawing a deliberate connection to suggest that S~V~S was a baddie. I think you're playing a cavalier kind of game, this isn't the first time this game you've had to do several posts of explanation how you're not really accusing anyone with your "observations".
Is that what I did?
I think he means thats what I did. Though a more accurate way of looking at it would be saying that I brought up a ping and was satisfied with the response to it.
by DharmaHelper
Wed Jan 07, 2015 2:01 pm
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zeek wrote:I'm probably going to vote for one of the more active players today. No other reason except I doubt all the mafiosa will just sit back in the big game. More inclined to give the benefit of the doubt to the quiet ones at this stage in the game.
Says one of the quiet ones.
by DharmaHelper
Wed Jan 07, 2015 2:17 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

Regardless of role, I think some people are just naturally more talkative/active and some people are the opposite.

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