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by Dom
Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:54 am
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 0]

juliets wrote:yay, got back from vacation just in time for the start of the game. My favorite accomplishment was as Smaug in Hobbit where I was the SK and won the game singly. I can't remember another game where I played an SK and I always thought it would be impossible to win as that role. I also really loved my role in Fight Club where I got to take notes from each of the towns and send them off to the head civ (can't remember the name) to give him/her some insight into what was going on in all the threads. I was so meticulous about those notes but then I found out that all that time the person I had been sending to was Kate and she was too busy and dropped out of the game. I was so disappointed - all that work and no one was reading it! Lol, such is mafia!

Also, inh you make me laugh!
Juliets-- you played admirably in Hobbit!!


I think my best performance was in Shawshank Redemption Mafia. I won as the SK after gaining enough of SVS's trust to convince her I was civvie! Then, she rezzed me after I had been NK'd. I only got to utilize my power towards the end, and it was a nail biter the whole time! Truly an awesome experience. :noble:
by Dom
Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:55 am
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 0]

Although, I do consider my relative level-headedness in Doctor Who despite my frustration was a pretty big accomplishment as well.
by Dom
Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:56 am
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 0]

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Dom wrote:Although, I do consider my relative level-headedness in Doctor Who despite my frustration was a pretty big accomplishment as well.
You played The Master so incredibly well; I'm still in awe over that, frankly.

We had some amazing SK performances this year between you and juliets.
thank :p
by Dom
Mon Jan 05, 2015 11:03 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

Boomslang wrote:Excellent, game on. The Day 0 poll really doesn't give us much to go on compared to previous games, but those who failed to check in are certainly the outliers here.
Does being an outlier make them bad?
by Dom
Tue Jan 06, 2015 11:28 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

Boomslang wrote:
Dom wrote:
Boomslang wrote:Excellent, game on. The Day 0 poll really doesn't give us much to go on compared to previous games, but those who failed to check in are certainly the outliers here.
Does being an outlier make them bad?
My reasoning is that, if the majority of players are civvies, then the majority/average action taken is most likely to be civvie. It's not perfect, but it's playing the odds.
I think I will be voting you...

That makes zero sense. By the same logic, you can assume that most non-actions are civilian because most players are civilian. Your logic has several flaws in it. You are assuming civilians and baddies act in the same way. They do not. Civvies are far more likely to be inactive because they do not have BTSC members to prod them to participate.

Roxy wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Black Rock wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:I think the people voting for the people who voted for no reason have less reason to their vote than the people they are voting for.
I don't think this is true. Why do you say that?
Logically speaking, you ate correct. I had zero reason for my vote, meaning that Sawyer's vote has a value of say -1, and LC is somewhere between that and negative infinity.
Every time someone uses maths to make it "seem" like what they are saying is fact it makes me want to vote for them. idk why.
But this maths seems like you are stretching a bit.
Roxy, to be fair, I read his math stuff as a joke-- did you not?
Russtifinko wrote:Wow, the game has really begun now!

I personally don't find Long Con suspicious for finding reywaS suspicious, because I also didn't interpret DH's original post as being at him. From what I've seen of reywaS before, though, defensiveness isn't unusual. (No offense.)
Then, what do you make of the clarification that it was, indeed, about rey?



I also found LC's rush to vote a bit out of character, but nothing that made my stomach lurch.
by Dom
Wed Jan 07, 2015 5:53 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

Boomslang wrote:
*facepalm* Yes, INH, that's exactly what I'm saying. Justifying sexism from mathematical reasons... I'm disappointed you took my argument off the slippery slope right off the bat.
You very clearly missed the point of what INH said. He used your exact logic to reach that conclusion. He was showing how flawed your logic is.

You also have yet to respond to my points about your logic, but only seemed to have doubled down on your thoughts.
Boomslang wrote:Metalmarsh, I'm not arguing about conformism. I'm arguing that, because there are more civs than mafia in the game, any given group of players is more likely to be composed of more civs than mafia. The largest, i.e., majority, group is thus most likely to contain the most civs.
Do civs and baddies behave randomly or uniformly?
Boomslang wrote: Well, if you look at what everyone else is doing, they're picking at outliers: too early of a vote, too talkative, too aggressive, not posting enough. So... just saying.
Here's the thing-- I asked if your group of players was likely to contain baddies and you didn't really answer it. You seem more concerned with showing why your logic isn't bad than justifying that there might be baddies in the group you seemed to have picked: people who did not vote Day Zero.
zeek wrote:Don't know who to vote for, don't have time to re-read. Drugs are making me have an early night... so, I'll go for Dharmahelper. I don't like this back and forth going on and DH feels less passionate about the argument. Dunno, it's all I've got.

"Cue criticisms for poor vote reasoning*

I'll be back in the morning :offtobed:
I read this as you pick Dharmahelper to vote for and then looked for a reason to vote for him. :eye:
by Dom
Wed Jan 07, 2015 5:54 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

Boomslang wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Just want to throw this out there, but I'd recommened that y'all don't lynch me. :noble:
For those of you keeping score at home, there's the vague threat of retribution!
Boomslang, what message were you trying to convey with this post?
by Dom
Wed Jan 07, 2015 8:57 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

S~V~S wrote:I think you are more likely to be bad then boomslang.
I honestly would like to know why you think this.
nijuukyugou wrote:Good thing I tried to read some on my phone before now, because holy shit 10 pages and broken internet on the computer at work. Done catching up.

As I was reading, I see the votes have changed around, and several have gone on to Boomslang that weren't there before. I've never played with him, so I don't know his supposed playstyle. I don't really know why others are voting for him other than he's acting weird. I'm also not too much getting the MM votes. I haven't seen the big pings that others seem to see, but it might also be that I can only hold so many players in mind at once.
Why did you say, "supposed play style"? The case against him has nothing to do with his play style and everything to do with his logic and inability to see the flaws in said logic.
S~V~S wrote:MM, I am very very sorry. But if it is any consolation, the odds are high you got me NKed tonight.
:ponder:
by Dom
Wed Jan 07, 2015 8:59 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 1]

Also-- I am very surprised to see so many people follow me on Boomslang, especially so many that didn't say much other than, "Yeah, Dom!"
by Dom
Wed Jan 07, 2015 9:14 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 1]

juliets wrote:I'm picking Dom to be a tag team partner. Dom I hope you are ok with that.
I would love that ^_^
by Dom
Wed Jan 07, 2015 9:23 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

nijuukyugou wrote:RIP MM/Mr. Humphries! Makes me want to go watch AYBS? Haven't watched it in ages.
Dom wrote:
nijuukyugou wrote:Good thing I tried to read some on my phone before now, because holy shit 10 pages and broken internet on the computer at work. Done catching up.

As I was reading, I see the votes have changed around, and several have gone on to Boomslang that weren't there before. I've never played with him, so I don't know his supposed playstyle. I don't really know why others are voting for him other than he's acting weird. I'm also not too much getting the MM votes. I haven't seen the big pings that others seem to see, but it might also be that I can only hold so many players in mind at once.
Why did you say, "supposed play style"? The case against him has nothing to do with his play style and everything to do with his logic and inability to see the flaws in said logic.
I believe I can chalk that comment up to seeing Eloh's reasoning that his "gameplay was weird." I was marathon reading about five or six pages this evening, so I might've attributed that one comment to several people's observations. Apologies if I was mistaken.

Picking partners...reminds me of school projects. I wouldn't mind being partnered with a Mongoose if she doesn't mind :blush:
Can you see that you're mistaken now?
by Dom
Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:10 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 1]

timmer wrote:Tag team.
Trash was funnier. :p
by Dom
Thu Jan 08, 2015 8:33 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 2]

Juliets <3 :3 we gots this
by Dom
Fri Jan 09, 2015 11:56 am
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 2]

Made wrote:Hey, yo guys, so uh my vote was forced so I'm just gonna get that out of the way now.

Voting Boomslang.

I'm not going to post the exact message, so that way we can have a sort of key to prove when someone is telling the truth, and someone is lying about being vote forced.

So next time someone claims votes force i'll ask for like the 5th or 3rd word in the message and if they match up, they're clear.

Thoughts?
I don't believe you. I think you are bad :)
Let's analyze this for a moment:
I do not believe for a second Epig would allow someone to say their vote is forced. Made is not new anymore and should know this is generally frowned upon. Here's where the logic breaks down for me:
1) You say you won't post the exact message so you can use it as a key to see if people are lying about forced votes. You cannot copy and paste host PMs, anyway. that is a standard rule of mafia since the dawn of time.
2) And then, we're supposed to just believe you about the coded message? Why?
3) And I'm supposed to believe that Epig would let the integrity of a role die like this?

None of this adds up to me. Welcome to the suspicion list.


Boomslang, who do you advocate for lynching?
by Dom
Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:38 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 2]

juliets wrote:I apologize but I just got home for the day and want to give Dom another chance to post but haven't read and formed thoughts about whats been said today. I can't do that until a little later so I'm posting in case Dom has something he would like to say now.
Thank you ^_^
I also meant to respond to your post to me earlier, but accidentally posted without including it in my multi quote. <3

Made wrote: No, it happened. It's funny, because I kinda trusted him because he was acting different from his misfits game, but he's now playing traditional DH baddie and it's ticking me off.

I think it's fair to say that DH and I know each others play styles relatively well. At least more than most know each others. So admittedly he outplayed me yesterday by switching up his play style, but today he's playing his traditional baddie game to me lynched, and it's bull. This is EXACTLY the same situation that happened in misfit. I voted early and DH capitalized. Paging MP, the only person that I think could at least kinda back me up on this.

There's a key bit of information i'm intentionally leaving out about the way that he's done this that I think MP will pick up, hopefully adding validity to my claim.
What makes you think you and DH know each other so well? Why do you know each other better than most players know each others' games? You're a relatively new player and DH is a veteran. I am wondering where you get this knowledge and apparent insight into DH's game-- something that someone who has played with him for several years (me) does not have.
I did not play Misfits, but I don't think you got a full understanding of DH's game in one game. I'm not sure what DH is doing this game and I'm unclear on his alignment, but your statement aren't sitting well with me at all.
reywaS wrote:hmm.
Yes??
Anything??




RE BOOMSLANG:
So, you'd like to see INH lynched simply because he isn't posting?
That's strange to me.
Very strange. I'll be intrigued to see if he does post.
by Dom
Fri Jan 09, 2015 8:24 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 2]

So SVS, you think Made is civvie, then?

Also, I do not want to pursue an INH lynch. I was asking if Boomslang does. I'm interested to see if he posts for a different reason.
by Dom
Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:59 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 2]

Made wrote:
Dom wrote: What makes you think you and DH know each other so well? Why do you know each other better than most players know each others' games? You're a relatively new player and DH is a veteran. I am wondering where you get this knowledge and apparent insight into DH's game-- something that someone who has played with him for several years (me) does not have.
Irc as well as multiple games of Board games online, resistance, and party mafia. It's one thing to understand someone's play in one context, but when you can find threads between multiple situations, the only constant being the same player, you learn things. This is especially true when they don't know you're watching so closely.

going to the mall, might be able to check in everyone once in a while, but nothing substantial.
pass back to elo.
In response to this: Thank you. I'll echo Juliets' sentiments for specificity, but this made me feel better about that. :)
MovingPictures07 wrote:Okay, I have some things to say for sure. I've been waiting for Daisy to post. :p

So now that she has...

My suspicions have changed up a bit now that I've had time to read through everything properly AND given the way the lynch went down AND given the fact that most of the thread's posts I just read for the first time.

My biggest suspects at the moment are Llama, Dom, DFaraday, and DH, in that order, descending. I don't feel that strongly about DH, however, as I keep going back and forth on him. I'm not really sure what I think about LC anymore. I also still do not think rey or Boomslang are bad, but I wouldn't say I'm sure they are civilian.

In short, the reasons I suspect those players are as follows:
1. I suspect all three of Llama, Dom, and DH for their Made votes today. I don't understand why a baddie Made would do this, and although I entertain the possibility, their closed-mindedness and early votes for him really strike me as opportunistic.
2. All four of them, but particularly Llama and Dom, appear to be suspecting players for odd reasons (they disagree with their logic, don't understand their POV, etc., all classic logical fallacies). DFaraday's vote for MM yesterday was especially shifty.
3. I think Dom's aggression against Boomslang, as well as Llama's against Rox, and DH's against LC, seem unnecessarily strong-willed and I am not necessarily convinced all three of these cases are truly believed. I had moments where I considered the possibility of these arguments to be contrived.

Call it gut, but they are the four whose intentions I'm currently most questioning.
Woah, first off, I have not voted for Made and I don't think you realize that I haven't. If I voted right now, I'd vote for Boomslang-- more on that later.
But I hope you can see I haven't voted for Made...
Dom wrote:
Boomslang wrote:
Dom wrote:
Boomslang wrote:Excellent, game on. The Day 0 poll really doesn't give us much to go on compared to previous games, but those who failed to check in are certainly the outliers here.
Does being an outlier make them bad?
My reasoning is that, if the majority of players are civvies, then the majority/average action taken is most likely to be civvie. It's not perfect, but it's playing the odds.
I think I will be voting you...

That makes zero sense. By the same logic, you can assume that most non-actions are civilian because most players are civilian. Your logic has several flaws in it. You are assuming civilians and baddies act in the same way. They do not. Civvies are far more likely to be inactive because they do not have BTSC members to prod them to participate.
Dom, can you explain to me why Boomslang's logic, which you clearly find flawed, makes him bad?

Because I'm not seeing it.[/quote]
Because I have tried pointing out how this logic makes no sense (INH did so, humorously, as well), and Boom has not backed off this stance or acknowledged my criticisms in a tangible manner. It's the best I've noticed and understood and felt comfortable with so far.
I don't understand the DH case fully nor do I feel comfortable judging DH on my own. In addition, I think Llama was, indeed, trolling Roxy, but I am not sure that makes Llama bad. So, right now, I am most suspicious of Boomslang.

Dom wrote:
Made wrote:Hey, yo guys, so uh my vote was forced so I'm just gonna get that out of the way now.

Voting Boomslang.

I'm not going to post the exact message, so that way we can have a sort of key to prove when someone is telling the truth, and someone is lying about being vote forced.

So next time someone claims votes force i'll ask for like the 5th or 3rd word in the message and if they match up, they're clear.

Thoughts?
I don't believe you. I think you are bad :)
Let's analyze this for a moment:
I do not believe for a second Epig would allow someone to say their vote is forced. Made is not new anymore and should know this is generally frowned upon. Here's where the logic breaks down for me:
1) You say you won't post the exact message so you can use it as a key to see if people are lying about forced votes. You cannot copy and paste host PMs, anyway. that is a standard rule of mafia since the dawn of time.
2) And then, we're supposed to just believe you about the coded message? Why?
3) And I'm supposed to believe that Epig would let the integrity of a role die like this?

None of this adds up to me. Welcome to the suspicion list.

Boomslang, who do you advocate for lynching?
Why would a baddie do any of this though?

Civvies can lie, yes?

I find myself wanting the answers to these questions[/quote]
A baddie would eliminate themselves as a member of that team, would they not?
Epi did not allow me to say my votes were forced in Zelda (I was going to after the phases, but I was not allowed to). If Made is meticulous as SVS says he is about asking questions about the rules, then would he not ask this question? It just seems to be an inconsistency that requires investigating. I don't know why you think that's weird. Do I find him suspicious for that? Yeah. I do.

I hope I adequetly addressed your concerns, MP
.

Your turn, Juliets :)
by Dom
Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:31 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 2]

juliets wrote:Dom, what does this statement mean:

"A baddie would eliminate themselves as a member of that team, would they not?"

I may just be reading it wrong and not getting the meaning so could you treat me like I'm 3 and explain what you meant?
lol <3

I mean, if a person said that they were forced to vote for someone-- then they are very very likely not on the team with the vote forcer, right?
by Dom
Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:21 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 2]

FZ. wrote:
The people I'm most suspicious as of now, are Dom, DF and INH, but his absence makes me want to wait.
The whole Boomslang thing that Dom keeps bringing up is just something I don't get. The fact that someone isn't logic enough, or continues to not see your own logic, does not make him bad. Then, like I said before, I still don't see how what Made has done makes sense as a baddie. It's a silly tactic as a baddie. Wouldn't any of his team mates tell him it's silly? So Dom's case on him is another thing I don't like about Dom.
Let me get this straight....
You do not see my logic, therefore you suspect me.
HOWEVER, that is the very logic you are not seeing.
Curious.
Long Con wrote:Fine, screw the contest. Has anyone tried PMing the host and asking if we are allowed to tell the thread that Mr Boddy is blackmailing us? I tried it, and found it informative, considering Made said he did the same. I got a one-word answer, I wonder if Made can match the key?
I assume it was "no". :p
thellama73 wrote: Made lied about his vote being forced more or less as an experiment, the same way INH lied about his baddie catching engine. I don't think he expected the amount of backlash he got. So far, none of this outright points to a baddie, because civs lie about this kind of stuff too. But when I called him out about Mr. Boddy being the only vote forcing role, he denied it, falling back on *secrets* which I am not buying. I think a civ would have come clean at this point. The fact that Made did not makes me think he is bad.
How do you know this?
by Dom
Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:45 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 2]

FZ. wrote:
linki: Dom, I think that the fact that he doesn't agree with your logic doesn't make him a baddie, and the fact that you can't acknowledge that makes you seem fishy. I'll take it to an extreme. The fact that someone is stupid (no implying Boomslang is stupid), doesn't make him bad. And when you use that to make someone look bad, you should be judged by the same standards. So the conclusion is either you reasoning was flawed, or you're bad/quote]
You are using the same logic I am, FZ. The exact same logic.
Why am I bad for using that logic, but you are not?
This is strange. I suspect Boomslang because I pointed out the flaws in his logic and he refuses to acknowledge them, etc. You are saying that I must be bad because my logic is flawed and I am not recognizing the flaws in my logic. . . surely you see this??
Turnip Head wrote:
juliets wrote:Why would a civ lie about that?
Why would anyone lie about this?
A few different reasons why a baddie might have been pointed out.
Am I sure of them? No. Do I think Made is hiding something? Yes.
by Dom
Sat Jan 10, 2015 9:18 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 2]

FZ. wrote: And Dom, to answer your question, I don't see it. Do you want to call me a baddie now too? :p There's a big difference between calling someone bad because you feel they are not using logic, and calling someone bad because they call someone bad for that reason. And the way you keep asking people if they see things your way isn't making me feel better about you either. Sorry
I don't suspect you.
I'm not suspecting people because they don't, "See things my way." I'm suspecting people because Boomslang tended to refuse to imagine it my way. In the below post I am quoting from INH is an additional set of reasons to suspect Boomslang. I remained quiet because of the contest and I wanted to see if INH might have been silenced-- which would have been even MORE suspicious
Don't you see your hypocrisy, though? Don't you see how you're condemning my suspicions, but your suspicion of me is based in the same logic?

insertnamehere wrote: First off, I've been fairly busy with my own game, and with real life things. So, I'm sorry that I haven't been super duper active lately.

Personally, I've found all of your attitude towards me to be more than a little bit "pingy".

So, during Day 1, I post saying that one of your quotes sounds pretty stupid, and that combined with some other "pingy" actions by you caused me to throw a vote your way.

You respond by accusing me of accusing you of sexism, which is pretty obviously false to anyone who actually read what I said, and dodging all questions.

Then, you decide to choose me as your partner as an "olive branch". Ha. I'm guessing that you thought that maybe everyone would be listed on the poll with their partner, and that you would force me to not vote for you, or something along those lines.

I already knew that since Boomslang voted for me, I was already locked into having him as my partner. So I thought that me also voting for him would be kind of unnecessary. Not sure how that is "pingy".

I've been unable to post here since Night 1, which really isn't that long ago.

Apparently, since I've been gone, Boomslang is now saying that the fact that I've been gone for 2 days is suddenly super-suspicious.

I think that he is just using my brief absence as an excuse to lynch one of his accusers.
INH-- I agree on all counts.
by Dom
Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:11 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 2]

Mongoose wrote:
zeek wrote:
Mongoose wrote:Guys, we can't just all vote for ourselves.
Vote for me then :)
I might! We need to start nominating people and have a discussion on the merits of voting that player, what do y'all think?
Mongoose, is there someone you trust, then?
by Dom
Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:23 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 2]

Mongoose wrote:
Dom wrote:
Mongoose wrote:
zeek wrote:
Mongoose wrote:Guys, we can't just all vote for ourselves.
Vote for me then :)
I might! We need to start nominating people and have a discussion on the merits of voting that player, what do y'all think?
Mongoose, is there someone you trust, then?
Hmm. You kinda. zeek seems an okay option. There are people that have been helpful, so I want to trust them, but that's naive. I don't think we've been in this long enough to trust anyone yet, but I think we have some contenders that hopefully we can come to a group consensus on.

The imp in me wants to say "Screw it, let's give it to Vompatti."
:ponder:
by Dom
Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:32 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 2]

I'm just curious about why Mongoose picked me, but it's a very minor ping.
by Dom
Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:40 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 2]

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Dom wrote:I'm just curious about why Mongoose picked me, but it's a very minor ping.
Oh, okay. Yeah, I am interested to hear that as well, since I'm pretty sure she never mentioned you or zeek before that post.

Personally, if I was to vote anyone other than myself for this poll... at the moment I'm leaning Turnip Head. I know he can be an incredibly brilliant baddie, but I have received nothing but good vibes from him so far this game. Despite that, I am not too sure how I feel about a lot of players, so this will force me to consider other options as well.
MP, what do you make of Llama being a civvie?
I think Made might be a baddie, especially since Llama ended up being civvie. I suspect Boom more, but man, it makes it harder for me to give Made the BOTD.
by Dom
Sun Jan 11, 2015 1:43 am
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 2]

Turnip Head wrote:I'm not sure I'm okay with Dom having the wand after what happened last time he got it...
:noble:
by Dom
Sun Jan 11, 2015 1:50 am
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 2]

I'm surprised no one else commented on INH's commentary of Boomslang tbh
by Dom
Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:44 am
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 2]

Made wrote:yo dom, what's your argument against boomslang btw, I'm not sure i understand it clearly. Same/similar to INH's?
I agree with INH on his recent assessment, and only waited to say anything about it because I wanted to see if INH would post at all on day 2 to see if he was silenced.

For your reading enjoyment, in reverse chronological order:
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 28#p105628
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 05#p105605
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 12#p105412
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 99#p105299
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 98#p105298
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 62#p105162
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 45#p104945


I never received a response to what he meant by this:
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 95#p105295


Not that it matters now.
by Dom
Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:17 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 2]

juliets wrote:rip llama. I became convinced that Made was not lying and that you were trying to take him down. Then when you made you comment about Mongoose really lying it furthered my bad feeling, throwing a friend under the bus to get out of a lynch. I couldn't see a civ doing that. Even with that though I should've given more thought to you both (you and Made) being civ.

I agree with FZ. that if Made is civ there are baddies on his list of voters. I also agree that TH seemed genuine yesterday defending Made and so he is a potential for me to give a vote to. Others are as well though so I'm going to think on it a little more before I vote.
We know Llama is civ, why aren't there baddies on his list of voters?

I'm not advocating for a witch hunt of Llama voters, but I am using the same logic to reach that conclusion-- one that FZ opposes, apparently. I find that odd, Juliets.
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Dom wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Dom wrote:I'm just curious about why Mongoose picked me, but it's a very minor ping.
Oh, okay. Yeah, I am interested to hear that as well, since I'm pretty sure she never mentioned you or zeek before that post.

Personally, if I was to vote anyone other than myself for this poll... at the moment I'm leaning Turnip Head. I know he can be an incredibly brilliant baddie, but I have received nothing but good vibes from him so far this game. Despite that, I am not too sure how I feel about a lot of players, so this will force me to consider other options as well.
MP, what do you make of Llama being a civvie?
I think Made might be a baddie, especially since Llama ended up being civvie. I suspect Boom more, but man, it makes it harder for me to give Made the BOTD.
What do I make of it? It was a possibility I considered. I thought he was bad. I'm disappointed he wasn't. I don't know what else there is to make of it. Made could still easily be a civilian. He could also be bad.

I don't understand how Made's alignment had anything to do with Llama's. Other than a possible "save attempt", which we have no reason to believe happened here more than any other possible lynch with two main participants -- who is to say they aren't BOTH civilian and baddies bandwagoned onto both of them?

Can you explain that?
Can I explain what?
I think it's possible that Made was saved. Possible, yes. I wanted to know what you think of that possibility.
You obviously think very lowly of it. If you already don't trust Made, can you see how this might look? I don't see why you're being so aggressive here.
MovingPictures07 wrote:DH, juliets, and DFaraday need to be very closely examined, IMO.

I also do not like the fact that Dom has three votes. Why are people trusting him?
. . . oh?
Ok?
Are you the trust police?
Boomslang wrote:
Dom wrote:
Made wrote:yo dom, what's your argument against boomslang btw, I'm not sure i understand it clearly. Same/similar to INH's?
I agree with INH on his recent assessment, and only waited to say anything about it because I wanted to see if INH would post at all on day 2 to see if he was silenced.

For your reading enjoyment, in reverse chronological order:
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 28#p105628
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 05#p105605
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 12#p105412
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 99#p105299
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 98#p105298
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 62#p105162
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 45#p104945


I never received a response to what he meant by this:
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 95#p105295


Not that it matters now.
I thought what I posted was quite obvious: Metalmarsh said something to the effect of "you'll be sorry if you lynch me," which I interpreted as threatening. In retrospect, he was warning us of regret rather than threat, so I misinterpreted that.

Also, INH, you'll notice I never called for a lynch on you. I was just concerned. Additionally, almost everyone else in the thread voted for their respective partners in the poll. You did not; as I've said before, we have to look for abnormal events to tease apart baddies and civvies in this game.
Would INH not voting you back in the poll make him a baddie, and if so, how?
Long Con wrote:I'm certainly not convinced that there was a "save attempt" on Made. If we confirm that Made is bad, then I would consider looking at Llama voters, but otherwise I'm not planning on using anyone's inclusion on either voting list as evidence of baddieness.
Right. . . Made should be investigated, I think. If we were to vote Llama voters before Made, that would be putting the cart before the horse.
Elohcin wrote:So...voting or someone to get a wand is difficult for a civ. B/c if I accidentally vote for someone who is a baddie, it will surely come back to bite me in the ass. I voted Bea. I have no suspicions of her atm which makes me think she is a safe bet.
This sent alarms ringing for me-- I don't know about you guys. You wanted to vote for someone you knew wouldn't win so it wouldn't point back to you later?
by Dom
Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:50 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 2]

juliets wrote:
Dom wrote:
juliets wrote:rip llama. I became convinced that Made was not lying and that you were trying to take him down. Then when you made you comment about Mongoose really lying it furthered my bad feeling, throwing a friend under the bus to get out of a lynch. I couldn't see a civ doing that. Even with that though I should've given more thought to you both (you and Made) being civ.

I agree with FZ. that if Made is civ there are baddies on his list of voters. I also agree that TH seemed genuine yesterday defending Made and so he is a potential for me to give a vote to. Others are as well though so I'm going to think on it a little more before I vote.
Dom wrote:We know Llama is civ, why aren't there baddies on his list of voters?

I'm not advocating for a witch hunt of Llama voters, but I am using the same logic to reach that conclusion-- one that FZ opposes, apparently. I find that odd, Juliets.
I think there are baddies both in the llama list and the made list. Until FZ. posted people had only talked about baddies in the llama voting list. I was indicating agreement that they were likely to be in the Made voters too. I also believe there could be baddies in the people who voted for other people so they wouldn't have to get involved in the Made vs. llama vote, or maybe people who didn't vote at all. I do not believe that all baddies voted for Made and llama, especially if they are both civ.
I can agree with that. My comment was about the logical inconsistency, which you addressed. :)
by Dom
Sun Jan 11, 2015 8:19 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 2]

bea wrote: Dom dom! :)
a) re: FZ - she's reading fairly genuine to me thus far. She messed up pretty big re: roxy and I in the last ksite game I played, but she's that kind of player. She goes with what she sees. Passionatly. And the ksite style is different from here. Those of us that have played in both worlds, I do truely believe it affects the way we play on the "not home" sites. (except for maybe rox and splintsy - they are weird anomolies) Correct me if you think I'm wrong FZ.
I'm not sure what you're trying to argue here. This is twice that FZ has used two different sets of logic in similar situations without real reason, one time she found me suspicious for it. Do you see what I found concerning there?
I'm not sure what you are trying to say here-- ignore FZ?
bea wrote:b) re MP: *tee-hee* - BUT - he raises a fair point. You were BAD BAD BAD in Who and you played a perfect game as a baddie that due to circumstances beyond your control, by process of elimination, you were found out. I'm as weary of early trust toward you as I am early trust toward MP tbh. MP feels more open minded than he usually does regardless of alignment during this game. It makes me *want* to trust him. Maybe he learned a thing or two. But it doesn't mean I do quite yet - I don't quite trust you yet either. Would you expect it any other way with us? ;)
I am slightly annoyed that MP called ME out in particular when others had received comparable votes-- and wowee! look who just HAPPENED to received SO many votes thereafter!
I have no reason to trust MP. His suspicions have been wrong and I haven't seen anything I'd call the hallmark of civvie MP yet. Do I think he's bad? Not really. Do I trust him? No.
But he only calls me out when LC has comparable votes? That makes me think-- why does he not want ME to get the wand.
bea wrote:c) re: elo - I think her vote for me was made from the best possible place. I have no reason to distrust her. I don't think she was doing it because she didn't want to be held accountable. I think she voted for the person she most trusted.
What do you think of her vote for Zeek?

bea wrote:d) re: your votes. In the first champions game, there was a similar scenario about this time in the game. It was a shield though (I don't remember what it did, but I do remember that who held it came into play later in the game.) I was voted in that game to recieve it first. Outside of BDH/Diggz - the other votes I recieved kinda sketched me out. This early in the game, does it worry you that people are putting that much trust in you? Do you get paranoid that there are baddies kissing up there? Because when I was in that spot. I did. Like lots.
I actually addressed this earlier, with MP. He seemed MUCH less worried about me getting the wand then. I don't particularly care if I get it, but I think MP might have manipulated you all into giving it to him. He is, far and away, the winner here. No one seems to question the trust of MP, but MP certainly started the talk about why are people trusting me. I'm going to be honest, the way MP played this has given me the idea that he might be trying to get me lynched here.
S~V~S wrote: MP used to be the king of analysis & appraisal. I think he had more time back in the day. He jumps to conclusions more than he used to, bad or good, such as suspecting people due to slips. Like I do always, lol. That big post felt like old MP to me. Analytical and thought out (even though it was not correct re Llama). But the jumping on baddie slips etc. is not the style I always associated with MP, although admittedly it IS the style he has been playing in more recently, true. We all evolve.

Linki, yeah, I am not sure what anyone means by "staunch trust of Dom". I tend to have a total blind spot re Dom, and he is still up in the air for me.
TBH, I'd like to keep it that way (in general, not just you). :noble: Keeps me safe, regardless of who I am.
I agree with your analysis of MP-- but I haven't seen that as much as you. I agree he used to be much more analytical and appraisal-based. I haven't quite seen it. Doesn't mean I won't.
nijuukyugou wrote:As I was reading, it seemed that those who voted for Dom expressed a confidence that I hadn't seen in the game until this poll came along. I believe others expressed this curiosity, as well. Perhaps I am overthinking/overreading? (Is that a word? It is now)

Linki @ Bea - Give me a bit to answer your questions - I am smelly from running and need a shower (not ignoring you :) )
Where have people justified their trust of MP? LC?
Why are people ONLY questioning the trust (that 3 people have) in me, and not in LC or the apparently the trust 9 people have in MP?
S~V~S wrote:Bea, I am always wary of LC. LC taught me alot about being a baddie. My first reaction when I read the big post he made about not killing me the other day was, "Awww how sweet". My second reactions was, "Oh shit, I am dead, LC is gonna kill me". But that was just for a second.I pay a lot of attention to LCs tone, and I have not seen anything that worries me. At this stage I don't fully trust anyone, but when I man=de my wand vote, I waffled a bit between LC & MP. I waited to answer this until night was "over" ha ha. Why give anyone ideas?

Although personal reads etc. will have less & less bearing as we go along due to Tyler.
Do you remember what LC was in Dexter Mafia?
You reminded me of something here.
by Dom
Sun Jan 11, 2015 8:36 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 2]

Long Con wrote:
Do you remember what LC was in Dexter Mafia?
You reminded me of something here.
I was Ellen Wolf... I forget the details, but I did win. I think there was some secret alliance or something happening. What were you reminded of?
Wasn't that the indy turned kind of civvie because the host pretty much cheated role?

You complimented my game HEAVILY in that game, I am pretty sure, in a ploy to get me to trust you. When SVS said that, I was reminded of what Blost (my civ BTSC partner) said to me when it happened. . . something to the effect of, "LC is saying that because you are good, but wants you to be flattered into trusting him, do not fall for it."
by Dom
Sun Jan 11, 2015 8:48 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 2]

MovingPictures07 wrote:
zeek wrote:Can we all just acknowledge how much emphasis Epi puts on game balance? Good, now lets think about how Boddy hasn't blackmailed Made, because Made could not tell us if that had happened... cool, now lets think about an unknown blackmailer whose blackmailing can be revealed. Seem fair? Seem balanced? Not in my opinion.
This reminds me of the argument that we used to our advantage in DW about how my role (The Doctor) could never be recruited.

The truth is we don't know what could possibly go on this game, especially since it's a Champions game.

Nonetheless, I understand you raise a good counterpoint.

How do you feel about the possibilities regarding Made that I brought up previously?
1) Made info dumped and got in trouble with Epig, but this hasn't been confirmed due to host interference.
2) Made is cursed. Of course, he would have to argue he wasn't cursed.
3) Made is a civilian, lying, because he's pulling a gambit. Even though almost no player would do this, I could see Made doing it.

Of course, I realize 4) is that Made is a baddie and lying, and I do wonder if this is the case, but I don't understand why everyone is so convinced it is true. What benefit does Made have in this scenario? He brought so much attention unnecessarily to himself. The only reason I would think he would do this is if he is on a baddie team with someone who was really hot and wanted to take attention away from them -- someone such as Boomslang or DH.
I have to say, MP, that you truly have changed your tune on speculating on game secrets. . . .



MovingPictures07 wrote:
Dom wrote:
juliets wrote:rip llama. I became convinced that Made was not lying and that you were trying to take him down. Then when you made you comment about Mongoose really lying it furthered my bad feeling, throwing a friend under the bus to get out of a lynch. I couldn't see a civ doing that. Even with that though I should've given more thought to you both (you and Made) being civ.

I agree with FZ. that if Made is civ there are baddies on his list of voters. I also agree that TH seemed genuine yesterday defending Made and so he is a potential for me to give a vote to. Others are as well though so I'm going to think on it a little more before I vote.
We know Llama is civ, why aren't there baddies on his list of voters?

I'm not advocating for a witch hunt of Llama voters, but I am using the same logic to reach that conclusion-- one that FZ opposes, apparently. I find that odd, Juliets.
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Dom wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Dom wrote:I'm just curious about why Mongoose picked me, but it's a very minor ping.
Oh, okay. Yeah, I am interested to hear that as well, since I'm pretty sure she never mentioned you or zeek before that post.

Personally, if I was to vote anyone other than myself for this poll... at the moment I'm leaning Turnip Head. I know he can be an incredibly brilliant baddie, but I have received nothing but good vibes from him so far this game. Despite that, I am not too sure how I feel about a lot of players, so this will force me to consider other options as well.
MP, what do you make of Llama being a civvie?
I think Made might be a baddie, especially since Llama ended up being civvie. I suspect Boom more, but man, it makes it harder for me to give Made the BOTD.
What do I make of it? It was a possibility I considered. I thought he was bad. I'm disappointed he wasn't. I don't know what else there is to make of it. Made could still easily be a civilian. He could also be bad.

I don't understand how Made's alignment had anything to do with Llama's. Other than a possible "save attempt", which we have no reason to believe happened here more than any other possible lynch with two main participants -- who is to say they aren't BOTH civilian and baddies bandwagoned onto both of them?

Can you explain that?
Can I explain what?
I think it's possible that Made was saved. Possible, yes. I wanted to know what you think of that possibility.
You obviously think very lowly of it. If you already don't trust Made, can you see how this might look? I don't see why you're being so aggressive here.
MovingPictures07 wrote:DH, juliets, and DFaraday need to be very closely examined, IMO.

I also do not like the fact that Dom has three votes. Why are people trusting him?
. . . oh?
Ok?
Are you the trust police?
I entertain that Made could have been saved. I also entertain that DH could have been saved on D1. Or that Boomslang was. Why do people feel so strongly that Made was over either of those two?

I don't feel I'm being unnecessarily aggressive. But I suppose that's my go-to mafia behavior, as you are well aware.

Where did I say I was the trust police? I'm allowed to voice my opinion. You are high on my possible suspects list. I was merely asking why people trust you because I have seen no reason to do so whatsoever.
I do feel you are being unnecessarily aggressive. "Can you explain that?" I asked what you wanted me to even explain. You still have not told me that.
Again, if I think that Made might be bad, and he narrowly avoids a lynch against a civ-- what might that lead me to believe? You are ignoring my points.
ANNNNNNNNNNNND apparently I'm "high" on your possible suspect list again (after making you feel better, and then. . . people trusted. . . ME?!) That's funny, MP. I wasn't on your suspect list last time you posted your top 3.
by Dom
Sun Jan 11, 2015 8:58 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Night 2]

bea wrote: re: MP trying to get you lynched - fwiw - I don't know if that was his goal (and I don't think it was) but it would take FAR more than anything that happened today to make me want to vote you.

re: dexter - what? share please. I was supposed to be in that game and I convinced diggz/bdh to play it - and then had to drop. I've always regretted not playing that game.What similarities are you seeing here?
Let me put it another way, Bea. . .

MP had no problem with 9 people trusting him.
MP has a problem with 3 people trusting me. MP wants me to question why they trust me.
But no one dare question why people trust MP. . .

Interesting, no? Not damning, but hey-- I find it weird.
MovingPictures07 wrote:Ah, seems night has ended! RIPIYWG INH. Weird choice for a kill.

Dom, I forgot to address one other item in that last post of mine. I also called out LC with this N2 poll, but I realize I called you out more strongly. This is because you were #2 on my suspects list at some point during the last cycle and LC has dropped off my top suspects. I don't trust either of you, and I wouldn't say you are #2 anymore, Dom, but if I had to say I would state that I'm feeling a bit more worried about you than LC at the moment. And I believe I explained this previously, but if I haven't adequately, let me know.
See you folks later!
Your "suspicion" of me is based on you not liking my boomslang suspicion nor my made suspicion. I don't see good reasons for you to suspect me, tbh.
I wonder what you'll think of my rey/timmer suspicion when I present it on day 3. :)
S~V~S wrote:Dom, I thought of that too. You saw my SECOND reaction? But a really careful reread gave me neither heebies nor jeebies. But yeah, watching LC is always a good policy. Watching all these people is a good policy. Watching YOU is a good policy :)
Agreed. I'm not worried from that specifically after LC's answer, but I wanted to be sure. :)
by Dom
Sun Jan 11, 2015 8:58 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 3]

Did I miss Epi's post?
by Dom
Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:01 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 3]

S~V~S wrote:An addon to that, DH. I am not as sure today. I have been rather unsuccessful this game :( So I want to do some targeted rereading.

Linki, it's up there^^
I found it.

RIPIYWG INH.


Top suspects:
1) Boomslang
2) Timmer
2) Reywas
4) Made
by Dom
Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:32 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 3]

Made wrote:
zeek wrote:Okay, so I am making the biggest U-turn in the world ever. Made wasn't lying.

And the Mad Hatter is a very naughty boy.
hi, guys, waiting for dinner to finish, so i got a bit of time.

Anyways, zeek, first, don't say who you need to vote for,
Now, how do you know if it was the mad hatter? what gave it away?

Also, was there any mention of shapes in your message? (don't say what shapes)

Gonna continue catching up while i have time in reverse chronological, but i gotta get this out there.
Well, it looks like you were being truthful... but I still don't get how this undermines the role because we'll find out who he needs to vote for because he'll vote for them?
Like????
by Dom
Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:49 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 3]

Made wrote:Don't have time to catch up atm, but just want to get this out there:
zeek wrote:It's different. My vote isn't forced.
Well that throws a giant monkey wrench in what I was thinking... are you allowed to say more?

Also, here was my thought before you said that (and the reason I voted dom on the wand poll...kinda confused on why people followed me on that but, w/e)
I think Dom is Indy, specifically Hatter. My guess is that there's a caveat in the hatter's role saying that if he forces someone to vote, he must also vote that way. I guess this could translate further and say that now has to do w/e action zeek has to?

This idea would be supported by the idea that Dom's Case on Boomslang was a weak one, something i haven't had time to look into yet.
Thoughts? I'm not sure how this theory would be affected by what Zeek must do.

Dinner, back either tomorrow or late tonight.
wat
by Dom
Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:58 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 3]

Made wrote:
bea wrote:given how dom played indi in who - I don't think if he had that kind of role he's be that obvious unless he had to be.

also- made - you never answered my question. Had your vote not been forced, and if you hadn't had to save yourself, who would you have voted for last cycle?
didn't answer because I wanted to just mega post tomorrow. I would of voted DH, but Interactions between Llama and DH were weird. With Llama flipping civvie, I want to reread DH, but want to take care Hattie Hatterson business first.


linki- since hattie isn 't a straight lynch force, I was looking for some other kinda of flag, and found it interesting that you would vote boom rather than with a vote that had an effect on who died. So i want to investigate that further.
I have suspected Boom since day one. Would you have rather I voted for you? Like????
by Dom
Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:12 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 3]

Spacedaisy wrote:
Dom, I think a fair amount of the MP voters gave a reason. I kind of think I can do a fair job reading MP, and I feel pretty sure he is a civ based upon what I've seen so far.
I consider your input here valuable. I do.
I don't think people supported their MP votes.
Timmer
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 16#p105916
Rey posted nothing.
Boomslang posted nothing.
Russ
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 61#p105961

This is the same amount of people that voted me, total, if you include myself.
MP does not seem concerned with this.
No one seemed concerned with this, however people definitely were concerned with the amount of votes I received (4- 1 being mine). And those concerns were raised with this post:
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 34#p105834

He also investigated, specifically, why Mongoose wanted to vote me because she gave little reason. He had no intention of investigating his own no-reason voters. However, not only that, but MP seemed to expect me to suspect Mongoose for this here:
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 83#p105783

Can you see how I feel very mixed on MP?
by Dom
Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:25 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 3]

Timmer and Rey

Timmer and Rey both voted for MP without any reason in the Night 2 poll.
Timmer and Rey were partners in the Day 2 challenge. I will show you the entirety of their posts.

Timmer started it with:
timmer wrote:Trash Team 4LYF!

:noble:

Rey then said:
reywaS wrote:hmm.
Timmer said:
timmer wrote:
reywaS wrote:hmm.
You going to be around tonight, pardner? I need to get caught up in the game but I don't want to have to do it in one giant post, lol.
He indicates his intention to participate.
reywaS wrote:
timmer wrote:
reywaS wrote:hmm.
You going to be around tonight, pardner? I need to get caught up in the game but I don't want to have to do it in one giant post, lol.
I'm sorry. Yes, I'll be around for a little while.
Rey is like yeah dude pls
timmer wrote:
reywaS wrote:
timmer wrote:
reywaS wrote:hmm.
You going to be around tonight, pardner? I need to get caught up in the game but I don't want to have to do it in one giant post, lol.
I'm sorry. Yes, I'll be around for a little while.
Alas, I saw this too late, and now I must head to bed.
Timmer then says that it's "too late" to play.
reywaS wrote:
timmer wrote:
reywaS wrote:
timmer wrote:
reywaS wrote:hmm.
You going to be around tonight, pardner? I need to get caught up in the game but I don't want to have to do it in one giant post, lol.
I'm sorry. Yes, I'll be around for a little while.
Alas, I saw this too late, and now I must head to bed.
Apologies. And now I've lost track of the days...I've been thinking all day that today was Friday. Not sure where I'm going to vote...I was thinking I had another day. phooey.
Rey apologizes.


This is literally everything they said on Day 2.
This is highly suspicious to me. Rey went from hunting baddies to chatting with Timmer enough to say all this useless back and forth. This rings as baddie behavior to me. Illusion of participation + talking enough to compete the in the contest, but not to play the game.

I will admit, I remember their day 2 being lengthier when I announced my suspicion of timmer and rey, but I still suspect them for this.
by Dom
Sun Jan 11, 2015 11:01 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 3]

bea wrote:of all the stuff you posted there domdom - the part i find most noteworthy is that Timmer didn't want to do a GIGANTOR post - while he was catsiping up. And his partner not posting, felt like a convinient excuse to NOT post what thoughts he had along the way. I know Timmer is a busy guy, but I also know if he only had one post to get his thoughts out during a massive re-read - I'm every bit right to be leary of a post that should have been full of notes and stuff and ended up being 'opps sorry to late - I guess I have NOTHING to say about the reread I said I was doing right now."
Exactly.
Everything seemed like an easy excuse to get out of posting.
by Dom
Sun Jan 11, 2015 11:10 pm
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Spacedaisy wrote:
Dom wrote:
Spacedaisy wrote:
Dom, I think a fair amount of the MP voters gave a reason. I kind of think I can do a fair job reading MP, and I feel pretty sure he is a civ based upon what I've seen so far.
I consider your input here valuable. I do.
I don't think people supported their MP votes.
Timmer
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 16#p105916
Rey posted nothing.
Boomslang posted nothing.
Russ
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 61#p105961

This is the same amount of people that voted me, total, if you include myself.
MP does not seem concerned with this.
No one seemed concerned with this, however people definitely were concerned with the amount of votes I received (4- 1 being mine). And those concerns were raised with this post:
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 34#p105834

He also investigated, specifically, why Mongoose wanted to vote me because she gave little reason. He had no intention of investigating his own no-reason voters. However, not only that, but MP seemed to expect me to suspect Mongoose for this here:
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 83#p105783

Can you see how I feel very mixed on MP?
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I can see what you are saying, however I got the impression he was surprised by people voting for him. He also said this when asked about it:
movingpictures07 wrote:
bea wrote:also - alex - do you find it sketchy that so many people are putting their trust in you?
I'm not sure if I feel it is sketchy. I am definitely surprised; I did not expect it at all. I don't necessarily understand the benefit of baddies voting for me unless they're trying to gain cred or something, but even then, there are multiple baddie teams. However, I do wonder if some of the votes are trying to avoid serious questioning, such as Boomslang, Russtifinko, etc. They don't really explain why I deserve their votes. So that does raise my eyebrow.

But I am pleased, since I promise I will put it to good use if I do win.
Those who did not give reason he admits to finding strange...

I don't ask you to take my reason as evidence, since you have no idea of my alignment either, I was only reiterating my reason because it felt like you were dismissing all his voters as not having given reasons. I know at least myself, SVS, and Juliets gave reasons. I can't remember if there were others off the top of my head, I would have to look back.
I just think MP passed a double standard, ya feel? I feel like there must be a motivation for that double standard. Why investigation for me and surprise for him?
Ya know?
by Dom
Sun Jan 11, 2015 11:34 pm
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My argument for what, MP?


You absolutely had a problem with me getting votes, MP. Absolutely. It is a lie to say otherwise:
MovingPictures07 wrote:DH, juliets, and DFaraday need to be very closely examined, IMO.

I also do not like the fact that Dom has three votes. Why are people trusting him?
"I do not like the fact that Dom has three votes."


You say I ignore that I came in second place.
I say that you ignore that you won by a margin of 6 votes.
You ignore that I was tied with LC until I voted at the very end.

Anyway, I am saying this gives me mixed feelings about you because people who I think have a good read of you say one thing, but I see the opposite.

MP-- why are you wondering more about Boomslang now?


And I haven't seen anything about DFaraday to make me worry yet.
by Dom
Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:28 am
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 3]

timmer wrote:I just wrote a long post explaining why I haven't been participating in the game, and the internet ate it. I think that's a sign to be more brief. My life's been crap since Jan 2nd when this game started and it hasn't gotten better since. I've asked to be replaced but I'm trying to find time to participate until a replacement is found. I apologize.
I hope things get better Timmer... in the mean time-- do you have any suspicions?
by Dom
Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:18 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 3]

What does everyone think of my thoughts on Rey and Timmer? Rubbish?
by Dom
Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:28 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 3]

juliets wrote:I'm not sure i understand - reywas Dom thinks you could be bad and you're shaking your head yes?

Dom one reason I'm kinda hesitant on the theory is back when I played on a bts team with timmer and we were civ, he had a lot of trouble posting because of some things going on in RL. I'm wondering if he's having those same problems because of the post he made. rey I don't know about so it does put a question mark in my mind, though rey too has not been posting much in games recently. It's a theory I'm going to keep in mind as we move forward. I'd like to know what some others think too.
My thought on timmer, though, is that he posted MULTIPLE times throughout day 2, but NONE of it had any content whatsoever... it just seems like a cop out- ya know?

I understand real life issues, and I don't want to penalize timmer for them, but he posted more than INH did through Day 2 (someone I would say was fairly active), but said absolutely nothing.
S~V~S wrote:
Roxy wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
Roxy wrote:
DFaraday wrote:Roxy, I'm not saying that only Llama voters should be scrutinized, but we don't know Made's alignment. It's still very possible that he is a baddie, in which case he probably would have had teammates vote for Llama. I was mainly making my point in regards to FZ's statement that the Made voters should be focused on, which seems counterintuitive to me.
My point is that why didn't you scrutinize the Metalmarsh voters for a poss DH save if it is such a great place to start?

Thanks SVS about the reminder that it was Dr Who.
The point is we both were not baddies. The last time we were baddies together was WWE, where we nearly killed each other in thread and out. When were you thinking of that we were both baddies and getting along. I don't recall that tbh.
You are prob right as my memory is shit at even remembering what roles I have had in games but I was thinking it was a TP game - I want to say it was awhile back and the theme had something to do with computers or something recruiting-wise. I wish I had some sort of TP directory of games. So many great memories on that site.

MP - I am doing some reading I'll get back to you.
Computer Lab, STLGirl hosted. I was bad with Kate, DP and I don't recall the third. Tranq was on the other bad team. I don't know that MP played that one. Kate was recruited, she won and I was not and did not. The recruit team was the Botnet.
I remember that game! I was civ and sucked :p

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