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by Marmot
Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:12 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 0]

Turnip Head wrote:As for the poll question, I think my greatest mafia achievement in 2014 was in Harry Potter Mafia. It's like Day 10 or whatever and Epi rezzes the role checker, who then rezzes his BTSC partner, and they have intel on half our mafia team. I had to help convince Epi and the rest of the civilians that the rezzed players were recruited and that all their info was false. Somehow it worked and we won!
Being the rezzed role-checker who knew half your team, I also considered it my crowning achievement of 2014, even if I did ultimately lose. You just played an even better one. :mafia:

Strange year. I played better in some of the games that I lost than I did in the games I won.
by Marmot
Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:15 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 0]

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Question for Epig: There are still only 30 roles listed but there are 31 players. Will a 31st role be revealed?
Really? Huh.

:ponder:
Damn secret roles. :p
:wall:
by Marmot
Sat Jan 03, 2015 9:58 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 0]

bea wrote:Newt
Alas, I am an Aardvark now. To be, or not to be...
by Marmot
Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:47 am
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 0]

Boomslang wrote:Well, it's been a very long time since I've been on these forums, but I've gotta go with WWE. I remember some great BTSC, fun with roleplaying, and learning more catchphrases from The Rock then any one man should really know...
Have we met? :ponder:

Vote Boomslang
by Marmot
Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:27 am
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Spacedaisy wrote:I was going to vote for Fight Club since it was my only win, but as much as I enjoyed the game, I really don't feel like I had any great part in winning it for our team. Instead I am voting for The Hobbit. Although I didn't win, I took out MP early. :) at least I believe that was the one in which I called his baddie alignment and people voted for him because both David and I were basically saying he was bad. I think. My memory is fuzzy
I remember that game. Too bad Smaug became hungry for goblins at the end.
by Marmot
Sun Jan 04, 2015 8:19 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 0]

thellama73 wrote:I just looked back at 2013's Game of Champions, and note that nobody voted for the game I hosted in the Day 0 poll, just as nobody has voted for any of the games I hosted in this Day 0 poll. Why are you people not giving good performances (your best performances!) in games I host?
I dropped out of Film Noir. I played shitty in Occultism. And though Oblique was one of favorites of 2014 and most fun to play, I do not believe it translates to being a crowning acheivement for me.

I notice that the more epic full games garner more votes than speed games. Their length does tend to make them more memorable, as it is definitely more difficult to play well and stay alive for 12+ days than for 6-7 days. I don't believe you hosted any full games this year, did you?
by Marmot
Mon Jan 05, 2015 12:25 am
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 0]

thellama73 wrote:I have two in the queue, but because of you slow pokes they didn't get played in 2014. :mad:
May your 2015 be filled with many wonderful moments and your games go down in the annals of the Syndicate.

Linki: Sometimes he eats mine too.
by Marmot
Mon Jan 05, 2015 12:51 am
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 0]

I only spread your legs.
by Marmot
Mon Jan 05, 2015 1:46 am
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 0]

thellama73 wrote:I spread butter on toast. It's delicious. You should try it.
DH's toasted buns? :coffee:
by Marmot
Mon Jan 05, 2015 12:46 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 0]

We could set a record for most modkills before Day1. :eek:
by Marmot
Mon Jan 05, 2015 11:00 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

Yay game.

Voting SVS for no reason.
by Marmot
Tue Jan 06, 2015 12:04 am
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

DharmaHelper wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Humorous antics are an often effective way to deflect suspicion in the early days of mafia games.
Do you think so? My experience is that people often get lynched wrongly for humorous antics in the early days of mafia games, while baddies lay low or pretend to be helpful.
In my experience, if someone gets a couple chuckles, and plays the court jester. it creates a mindset that "this person can't possibly be bad, look how ridiculous they're acting. Plus, they're funny so I want to keep them around and see what else they've got that is funny"

It's a common, effective tactic. Put your enemy at ease, make them either underestimate you.
Indeed.

I usually draw suspicion on day one for being out of tune. I think I am actually doing a fantastic job of staying on task thus far.
by Marmot
Tue Jan 06, 2015 12:09 am
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

DharmaHelper wrote:The question then becomes are you staying on task to avoid suspicion or staying on task in order to legitimately contribute?
Are you purposefully posing questions that llama will deem unanswerable?

Regardless, it is up to the reader to decide. Voting a (presumably) active player will more likely garner a reaction than voting a (presumably) inactive player.
by Marmot
Tue Jan 06, 2015 12:28 am
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

What changed your mind?
by Marmot
Tue Jan 06, 2015 10:54 am
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

S~V~S wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Yay game.

Voting SVS for no reason.
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Humorous antics are an often effective way to deflect suspicion in the early days of mafia games.
Do you think so? My experience is that people often get lynched wrongly for humorous antics in the early days of mafia games, while baddies lay low or pretend to be helpful.
In my experience, if someone gets a couple chuckles, and plays the court jester. it creates a mindset that "this person can't possibly be bad, look how ridiculous they're acting. Plus, they're funny so I want to keep them around and see what else they've got that is funny"

It's a common, effective tactic. Put your enemy at ease, make them either underestimate you.
Indeed.

I usually draw suspicion on day one for being out of tune. I think I am actually doing a fantastic job of staying on task thus far.
Explain how these two things go together.
Voting for lynches is part of mafia. Everyone is expected to do it, therefore it is a task each player must undertake.
S~V~S wrote:Voting for someone just to start discussion is on task how?
I believe you answered your own question in your question.
S~V~S wrote:Perhaps a way to immediately deflect suspicion off of the low poster talk from Llama? Since everyone knows I am the person Most Likely to Start a Federal Case out of taking a vote? Or trying to put the Person Most likely to Become Defensive for No Reason Immediately on the Defense?
:shrug: I did not know these things about you, but all the more reason to vote you on Day 1 and make something happen.
S~V~S wrote:I tend to ignore Llamas humor though ( :consoling: ) and pay attention to his suspicions.
So we should pay attention. If you are NK'd it will probably be llama's doing?
by Marmot
Tue Jan 06, 2015 11:59 am
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

Boomslang wrote:
Dom wrote:
Boomslang wrote:Excellent, game on. The Day 0 poll really doesn't give us much to go on compared to previous games, but those who failed to check in are certainly the outliers here.
Does being an outlier make them bad?
My reasoning is that, if the majority of players are civvies, then the majority/average action taken is most likely to be civvie. It's not perfect, but it's playing the odds.
I disagree. If anything, I think baddies are more likely to be conformists than civvies.
by Marmot
Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:14 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

thellama73 wrote:I think all the early votes today are weird. On Day One, more than any other day, we need as much time as possible to pick up on subtle pings.
That is assuming I want to lynch SVS.

Mafia tip #17: votes are not only useful for lynching players.
by Marmot
Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:18 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

Black Rock wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:I think the people voting for the people who voted for no reason have less reason to their vote than the people they are voting for.
I don't think this is true. Why do you say that?
Logically speaking, you ate correct. I had zero reason for my vote, meaning that Sawyer's vote has a value of say -1, and LC is somewhere between that and negative infinity.
by Marmot
Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:44 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

Spacedaisy wrote:Are votes changeable in this game? I hate that...
They are.
by Marmot
Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:43 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

Snow Dog wrote:
thellama73 wrote:"make a federal case" out of something is a common idiom in American English. I do not think two people using it is suspicious.
I'm not familiar with it. It's a term I've not seen in a mafia game I've played yet and now it appears written by two people.

But I neither believe or disbeleive the notion. I merely observe
I've finally bought that album you've got in your avi. I look forward to hearing it onceit arrives. :dance:
by Marmot
Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:49 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

Made wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
S~V~S wrote:I tend to ignore Llamas humor though ( :consoling: ) and pay attention to his suspicions.
So we should pay attention. If you are NK'd it will probably be llama's doing?
Biggest ping so far. What are exactly are you trying to say here MM
llama is never lynched for being bad, only for being llama. So just like in Zelda, he might try to get SVS NK'd if he is bad, since she has good insight on his playing ability.
by Marmot
Tue Jan 06, 2015 10:41 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

thellama73 wrote:Timmer comes off the Apollo Doctrine list! That leaves:
Mongoose
Lorab
and Hedgebaddie.
And Mongoose has posted in other places.
by Marmot
Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:37 am
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

For the record SVS, my only goal with voting you the way I did was to instigate some real Day 1 discussion. I believe I was successful. I had no suspicion of you then, nor do I have any of you now.

Per my comment on Mongoose, I was not distracting. I just wanted to point out that Mongoose has been logging onto the Syndicate and posting in other places, though she never bothered to check in on Day 0 even for this game.
by Marmot
Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:42 am
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

Boomslang, I have a more sound counterargument you can address.
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Boomslang wrote:
Dom wrote:
Boomslang wrote:Excellent, game on. The Day 0 poll really doesn't give us much to go on compared to previous games, but those who failed to check in are certainly the outliers here.
Does being an outlier make them bad?
My reasoning is that, if the majority of players are civvies, then the majority/average action taken is most likely to be civvie. It's not perfect, but it's playing the odds.
I disagree. If anything, I think baddies are more likely to be conformists than civvies.
by Marmot
Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:47 am
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

DharmaHelper wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:For the record SVS, my only goal with voting you the way I did was to instigate some real Day 1 discussion. I believe I was successful. I had no suspicion of you then, nor do I have any of you now.

Per my comment on Mongoose, I was not distracting. I just wanted to point out that Mongoose has been logging onto the Syndicate and posting in other places, though she never bothered to check in on Day 0 even for this game.
To whom are you planning on changing your vote?
I don't plan on voting you, but I am certainly unappreciative with your approach today. You've maintained that voting early is suspicious, but somehow forget to bring up my name in that discussion. Players are bound to draw connections there. I do not want your vote, but being ignored is worse.
by Marmot
Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:50 am
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

Dom wrote:
Roxy wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Black Rock wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:I think the people voting for the people who voted for no reason have less reason to their vote than the people they are voting for.
I don't think this is true. Why do you say that?
Logically speaking, you are correct. I had zero reason for my vote, meaning that Sawyer's vote has a value of say -1, and LC is somewhere between that and negative infinity.
Every time someone uses maths to make it "seem" like what they are saying is fact it makes me want to vote for them. idk why.
But this maths seems like you are stretching a bit.
Roxy, to be fair, I read his math stuff as a joke-- did you not?
Math is certainly not a joke, but that post was.
by Marmot
Wed Jan 07, 2015 11:08 am
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

DharmaHelper wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:For the record SVS, my only goal with voting you the way I did was to instigate some real Day 1 discussion. I believe I was successful. I had no suspicion of you then, nor do I have any of you now.

Per my comment on Mongoose, I was not distracting. I just wanted to point out that Mongoose has been logging onto the Syndicate and posting in other places, though she never bothered to check in on Day 0 even for this game.
To whom are you planning on changing your vote?
I don't plan on voting you, but I am certainly unappreciative with your approach today. You've maintained that voting early is suspicious, but somehow forget to bring up my name in that discussion. Players are bound to draw connections there. I do not want your vote, but being ignored is worse.
No offense, but I didn't quite find you relevant enough to discuss. Comparatively speaking, I have bigger fish to fry.
Haha, my role in my last game was Little Fishes. :haha: How convenient.
by Marmot
Wed Jan 07, 2015 11:24 am
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

Boomslang wrote:Metalmarsh, I'm not arguing about conformism. I'm arguing that, because there are more civs than mafia in the game, any given group of players is more likely to be composed of more civs than mafia. The largest, i.e., majority, group is thus most likely to contain the most civs.
According to your theory, the only thing that will matter are overall numbers. Let's take a look.

Given a group of maybe 20 players who vote one way, or specifically act one way, 58% of them will be civvie (about 11-12) and 39% will be baddie (about 7-8). But these percentages will apply to any behavior or vote pattern according to your theory, which means that same ratio will exist even if only two players exhibit a specified behavior. Sure there will be more civvies in larger groups, but there will be more baddies to keep the percentages even. Especially in a game where we have two four-player baddie teams and four indies, we have a lot of free-thinking going around, and by proxy, a lot of conforming without hesitation.

So I don't think looking at behaviors is important. Actually, I lied. If there is a behavior that you think is indicative of baddie, of course it's worth looking into. Otherwise, I believe looking at player-specific behaviors is a better bet. Oh and vote patterns.

Linki: What llama said.
by Marmot
Wed Jan 07, 2015 2:18 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

Roxy wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Boomslang wrote:Metalmarsh, I'm not arguing about conformism. I'm arguing that, because there are more civs than mafia in the game, any given group of players is more likely to be composed of more civs than mafia. The largest, i.e., majority, group is thus most likely to contain the most civs.
According to your theory, the only thing that will matter are overall numbers. Let's take a look.

Given a group of maybe 20 players who vote one way, or specifically act one way, 58% of them will be civvie (about 11-12) and 39% will be baddie (about 7-8). But these percentages will apply to any behavior or vote pattern according to your theory, which means that same ratio will exist even if only two players exhibit a specified behavior. Sure there will be more civvies in larger groups, but there will be more baddies to keep the percentages even. Especially in a game where we have two four-player baddie teams and four indies, we have a lot of free-thinking going around, and by proxy, a lot of conforming without hesitation.

So I don't think looking at behaviors is important. Actually, I lied. If there is a behavior that you think is indicative of baddie, of course it's worth looking into. Otherwise, I believe looking at player-specific behaviors is a better bet. Oh and vote patterns.

Linki: What llama said.
Are these Maths a joke too?
I disagree with a good portion of this.
Tbf a lot of your posts make my nose twitch.
No. I was logically proving that Boomslang's theory is inaccurate.

So you disagreee with llama and agree with Boomslang?

Linki: ture
by Marmot
Wed Jan 07, 2015 2:21 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

S~V~S wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:For the record SVS, my only goal with voting you the way I did was to instigate some real Day 1 discussion. I believe I was successful. I had no suspicion of you then, nor do I have any of you now.

Per my comment on Mongoose, I was not distracting. I just wanted to point out that Mongoose has been logging onto the Syndicate and posting in other places, though she never bothered to check in on Day 0 even for this game.
To whom are you planning on changing your vote?
I don't plan on voting you, but I am certainly unappreciative with your approach today. You've maintained that voting early is suspicious, but somehow forget to bring up my name in that discussion. Players are bound to draw connections there. I do not want your vote, but being ignored is worse.
You didn't actually answer this yet, did you? Who are you planning on moving your vote to?
I thought that just the fact that I hadn't moved my vote would be answer enough. :p I don't know yet.

But I can assure you that by the end of the day, my vote will not be on you.
by Marmot
Wed Jan 07, 2015 2:29 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

DFaraday wrote:I have found MM rather shifty, particularly his questions of Llama that seemed to be setting Llama up.

I also am wary of DH, but I've never been able to read him.
I was looking for a reaction from SVS. The question was not shifty, nor was I trying to set llama up.
by Marmot
Wed Jan 07, 2015 2:32 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

The only vote I have found suspicious thus far is Mongoose's, but this is Day 1, so some sympathy is required. I believe llama's "gambit" was not malicious, and he was merely trying to get Mongoose to play.

*Cue Mongoose deflection accusations.
by Marmot
Wed Jan 07, 2015 2:37 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

Boomslang wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Boomslang wrote:Metalmarsh, I'm not arguing about conformism. I'm arguing that, because there are more civs than mafia in the game, any given group of players is more likely to be composed of more civs than mafia. The largest, i.e., majority, group is thus most likely to contain the most civs.
According to your theory, the only thing that will matter are overall numbers. Let's take a look.

Given a group of maybe 20 players who vote one way, or specifically act one way, 58% of them will be civvie (about 11-12) and 39% will be baddie (about 7-8). But these percentages will apply to any behavior or vote pattern according to your theory, which means that same ratio will exist even if only two players exhibit a specified behavior. Sure there will be more civvies in larger groups, but there will be more baddies to keep the percentages even. Especially in a game where we have two four-player baddie teams and four indies, we have a lot of free-thinking going around, and by proxy, a lot of conforming without hesitation.

So I don't think looking at behaviors is important. Actually, I lied. If there is a behavior that you think is indicative of baddie, of course it's worth looking into. Otherwise, I believe looking at player-specific behaviors is a better bet. Oh and vote patterns.

Linki: What llama said.
Well, if you look at what everyone else is doing, they're picking at outliers: too early of a vote, too talkative, too aggressive, not posting enough. So... just saying.
Who do you plan to vote? Your strategy must lead you to a certain, potentially educated PoA right?
by Marmot
Wed Jan 07, 2015 5:05 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

reywaS wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:For the record SVS, my only goal with voting you the way I did was to instigate some real Day 1 discussion. I believe I was successful. I had no suspicion of you then, nor do I have any of you now.

Per my comment on Mongoose, I was not distracting. I just wanted to point out that Mongoose has been logging onto the Syndicate and posting in other places, though she never bothered to check in on Day 0 even for this game.
To whom are you planning on changing your vote?
I don't plan on voting you, but I am certainly unappreciative with your approach today. You've maintained that voting early is suspicious, but somehow forget to bring up my name in that discussion. Players are bound to draw connections there. I do not want your vote, but being ignored is worse.
You didn't actually answer this yet, did you? Who are you planning on moving your vote to?
I thought that just the fact that I hadn't moved my vote would be answer enough. :p I don't know yet.

But I can assure you that by the end of the day, my vote will not be on you.

Really??? So, in essence, S~V~S is getting a pass today?
Yes and yes.

Recall that I originally voted her for no reason. My purpose was not to get her lynched. It was an experiment to get conversation going. I think it worked.

Why, do you think she should be lynched?
by Marmot
Wed Jan 07, 2015 5:28 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

DFaraday wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
DFaraday wrote:I have found MM rather shifty, particularly his questions of Llama that seemed to be setting Llama up.

I also am wary of DH, but I've never been able to read him.
I was looking for a reaction from SVS. The question was not shifty, nor was I trying to set llama up.
That may be, but as I don't have time to analyze this DH/LC stuff, I'll still vote you because it cricked my brow.
It sounds like you are admitting I'm right, but keeping your vote so as to not look shifty.
by Marmot
Wed Jan 07, 2015 5:45 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

DharmaHelper wrote:Since MM changed his vote to me, out of what I assume is self preservation, seems I must do the same.
I did. i'm on my phone on the bus, so I couldn't explain it right away.

Given the choice, I would rather vote Mongoose, sawyeR, or even Boomslang.
by Marmot
Wed Jan 07, 2015 5:46 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

Just want to throw this out there, but I'd recommened that y'all don't lynch me. :noble:
by Marmot
Wed Jan 07, 2015 5:50 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

Boomslang wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Just want to throw this out there, but I'd recommened that y'all don't lynch me. :noble:
For those of you keeping score at home, there's the vague threat of retribution!
Wait, how did you know my role?

Also remember, the points don't matter.
by Marmot
Wed Jan 07, 2015 5:51 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

Er, that second part was directed at the masses.
by Marmot
Wed Jan 07, 2015 7:33 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

Roxy wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Roxy wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Boomslang wrote:Metalmarsh, I'm not arguing about conformism. I'm arguing that, because there are more civs than mafia in the game, any given group of players is more likely to be composed of more civs than mafia. The largest, i.e., majority, group is thus most likely to contain the most civs.
According to your theory, the only thing that will matter are overall numbers. Let's take a look.

Given a group of maybe 20 players who vote one way, or specifically act one way, 58% of them will be civvie (about 11-12) and 39% will be baddie (about 7-8). But these percentages will apply to any behavior or vote pattern according to your theory, which means that same ratio will exist even if only two players exhibit a specified behavior. Sure there will be more civvies in larger groups, but there will be more baddies to keep the percentages even. Especially in a game where we have two four-player baddie teams and four indies, we have a lot of free-thinking going around, and by proxy, a lot of conforming without hesitation.

So I don't think looking at behaviors is important. Actually, I lied. If there is a behavior that you think is indicative of baddie, of course it's worth looking into. Otherwise, I believe looking at player-specific behaviors is a better bet. Oh and vote patterns.

Linki: What llama said.
Are these Maths a joke too?
I disagree with a good portion of this.
Tbf a lot of your posts make my nose twitch.
No. I was logically proving that Boomslang's theory is inaccurate.

So you disagreee with llama and agree with Boomslang?

Linki: ture
Did I state anywhere that I agreed with Boom? Nope.
No, but you said you disagreed with my post, which was entirely a counterstatement to Boomslang's post. If you disagree with myself and Boomslang, then you yourself are riding the fence.
Roxy wrote:I said I disagree with your posts.
First off is your vote for SVS to get convo going seems like a bit of a stretch. bc A) you never stated any reasoning to, ya know, get convo going. b) bc when asked who you were changing your vote to you ignored and acted like we should have deduced ourselves who you were voting for.
Okay, next game I will start off with "Voting [insert player name here] to get conversation going." That will be mighty effective and also very civvie-like.
Roxy wrote:As far as the quoted post goes your interpretation of how behaviors are not important then go on tosay yes they are important. You rode the fence in your entire post. you say this is important but then say its not as important as this.

I say behavior is a big part of locating baddies. You telling people what is right or wrong in hunting baddies is more or less telling them don't play your own way bc it. is wrong. I super disliked it when inh called boomslang stupid which is the #1 reason I do not like your or his reactions to one post boomslang made. I realize YOU did not call him stupid but you still argued with inh against boomslangs post. (Which may be wrong but who am I to judge how boom plays?) yes its worth noting but is it worth a vote I do not think so.
I have nothing to do with INH, or llama (who also disagreed with Booms). I made the argument of my own choosing because I disagreed and I want credit!
Roxy wrote:I do think your behavior this game is quite different than other games. You seem much more into it than before - more in your face - though thats not quite it either.
I have been a baddie quite a lot, so I don't know how you can twist that logic to make me bad.
Roxy wrote:I do think I will be voting for you.
I think you probably won't.
by Marmot
Wed Jan 07, 2015 7:35 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [ENDGAME]
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

Lizzy wrote:Butt then again I shall be voting for an individual who hasn't been too active and hasn't made any on topic posts as far as I could tell.

:mafia:
Ah, yes, the ol' self-vote. Well you certainly do qualify. ;)
by Marmot
Wed Jan 07, 2015 7:40 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [ENDGAME]
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

S~V~S wrote:Is that so MM? You were looking to see if I was being defensive?
Yes and no. My main goal was to kick the game into gear, and to see if others reacted to the vote in some way. I didn't expect you to get defensive over an early Day 1 vote, and I would have been surprised if you had.
by Marmot
Wed Jan 07, 2015 7:46 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

No.

I thought about voting llama first, but I didn't think I'd be taken seriously, and just be accused of trolling. Mission failed.

Linki: Hello Smaug
by Marmot
Wed Jan 07, 2015 7:48 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

DharmaHelper wrote:I wanna live. Swapped back to MM
Gerroff me.
by Marmot
Wed Jan 07, 2015 7:51 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [ENDGAME]
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

S~V~S wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
DFaraday wrote:I have found MM rather shifty, particularly his questions of Llama that seemed to be setting Llama up.

I also am wary of DH, but I've never been able to read him.
I was looking for a reaction from SVS. The question was not shifty, nor was I trying to set llama up.
That post was not about my vote, that was regarding my other question to you about being NK'd.

Two different things.
by Marmot
Wed Jan 07, 2015 7:53 pm
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

This one.
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
S~V~S wrote:I tend to ignore Llamas humor though ( :consoling: ) and pay attention to his suspicions.
So we should pay attention. If you are NK'd it will probably be llama's doing?
by Marmot
Wed Jan 07, 2015 7:57 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [ENDGAME]
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Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

S~V~S wrote:So what reaction did you want?

/pulling teeth
Don't give me the pulling-teeth thing. You're the one framing me (even if unintentionally) at the last second and potentially swaying voters.

I was looking for something pingy. I did not get something pingy.

Linki: Well if I die, for the record, I don't think DH is bad.
by Marmot
Wed Jan 07, 2015 8:01 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [ENDGAME]
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Views: 84109

Re: The Syndicate 2014 Game of Champions [Day 1]

S~V~S wrote:I am not framing you. I think you are bad MM.
You've still misconstrued me. :mad:

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