The Syndicate

Hi everyone

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This game looks fun

So, im doing a long distance trip to my hometown today, by bus, so you are gonna have to be pwtient yo me until at least tomorrow, where i start the cqtch up. Ill be less busy after wednesday, but i will try to catch up anyway this weekend. Just want a bitb of patience the first couple of days.

Im glad im playing again

I still havent begin my reading, but wanna say rip bf. Hope ill be completely catched up betwwmeen tomorrow and monday

So, i went as far and read the roles and saw you guys lynched the civvie that could get info on day 1. Thats unfortunate

Will keep reading until i fall asleep

If somrone is kind enoughr to give me a brief resume of how the lynch went and what happened while i wasnt playing, that would be great.

Ill still read everything, but just in case that when i came here tomorrow night this thread keep advancing at a huge speed, so i dont get that lost! Thanks

juliets wrote:Sophie i don't want you to be lost because some very important things happened today. Unfortunately I am terrible at summarizing and it would take me forever. Somebody else who is much better than me will do it I'm sure. I think its really important though that you do read the thread because this is one where it all depends on how you view the events.

Certainly. Im on page 6 and this is already crazzyness

Im on page 9 and head is spinning

. Please dont talk that much tomorrow otherwise it will be imposdible for me to catch up before wednesday

Off to sleep, im supertired due to my trip

@Golden? Why sorry. I dig crazyness, you know that. I got pretty entretained by your posts so far

Wait, do i have to vote? I see poll ends tomorrow early

Im tired, read a lot,can someone link me to the page ehere it explains wgat this vote is about? Please?

I dont see anything on page 1 either

Golden wrote:
Sophie wrote:@Golden? Why sorry. I dig crazyness, you know that. I got pretty entretained by your posts so far
Cos I probably account for around 3 pages of your catch up

I know. Please shut up

Ok, i see bea and someone else voted for no reason? So this might not even be important.

Ill check tomorrow quickly to make sure is that way and to see if someone gives me and explanation, if nit ill probably vote random

thellama73 wrote:
Sophie wrote:Wait, do i have to vote? I see poll ends tomorrow early

Im tired, read a lot,can someone link me to the page ehere it explains wgat this vote is about? Please?
You're deciding where to explore based on the map and description here:
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 20#p128782

Oh thats it, thanks host

Voting archer ave just because.

Its getting late anf gotta go sleep, bb tomorrow night hopefully

Im sorry im so behind
the little time i had today i skimmed here and publish a bit in roger rabbit cause was so invested in that game (more than 300 messages) and just ended today. so much happened behind the scenes with me that i wanted to comment. Im still behind here, ended up on page 9 yesterday and didnt have time to read today, im on my hometown and playing with my little niece (or is nephew? dont remember how its called in english, it is a girl) and being full time auntie is really consuming my time, but im doing my best
be patient with me

RIPYWG BR, im sorry you are nkilled again, i always like to play with you cause you are a smart, observative player

You know what sucks about being starting a game when they are already 20 pages on it?
People expect you to come and give and opinion tova thread when you do the "catch up". The catch up will be finished in a couple of days and at that point the thread will be at least 30 pages long. Probably more at the rate this thread is going.

So you are reading (me, for example, are reading page 12), and you see somethings that ping you, but since you dont know what happened next, you dont know how that turned out. Maybr the player that is pinging you got replaced, maybe the ping evaporates later. Who know what kind of crazyness can happen in a few pages?

And this game is full of it. Crazyness. Im on page 12 and i ve seen many things worth noticing. So i decided im gonna comnent on them while i see them.

The task of comenting on over 30 or 40 pages when thread had evolved and chnaged direction many times seems like an impossible task, imo. So i decuided im gonna comment about what im seeing qhile i see it.

First, i ve read all the bf thing. Him getting suspicion, im reading him as civvie. I ve also read golden as civ.
Then, it came the mp thing. Br comment didnt seem that much, but hid reaction to everything was sooooooooooooo over the top. Im on page 12 and bu now he has been reacting extreeeeeeeeemely overeacting. I dont think i ever seen such a huge overeactiob in mafia history. If i would have been playing this game at that point, i would have been

him like crazy. He took it personal and talked about being insulted and being replaced and reacted in a way that had nothing to do with what was going on in thread. I didnt see anyone unsulting mp, no one was even going very hard against him.

But his reaction?? Wow wow wow

Fwiw, i dont even know if he is still playing or got rrplaced, since in his tantrum he is talking about being replaced and yada yada.

After seeing how mp is capable of faking huge tantrums that are over the top and fooled almost everyone in roger rabbit, i of course dont believe any of it. Less so this tantrum, that didnt even made srnse cause it came out of NOWHERE.

But, i dont even know if he is still playing qt this point. But i had to mention all this

According to page 1 he is.

So im

on that now.

Gonna keep reading a bit. Hope i end before 2020.

This is hard.

thellama73 wrote:
Sophie wrote:According to page 1 he is.

So im on that now.

Gonna keep reading a bit. Hope i end before 2020.

This is hard.
We're only 13% as long as Death Note. Let's keep those posts coming!

People should stop posting until i finish my catch up, tbh.

So people, just stop posting. Llama will give a prize to those of you who just dont post at all until wednesday

Ok, its hard for me to xatch up on the latest, when im still catchinup barely on page 13. But from what i understand everyones voting mm cause he has been self voting this game and theres a baddie role that gains power with every self vote? Amirite?

I meant a baddie power with every vote casted against them

voting MM

theres no freaking way i have time to catch up you people talk waaaaay waaaaay too much and im like 25 pages behind, so, yeah

from what i ve seen skimming the last few pages, he mightr be the baddie who gets more powerful the more votes he gets unless he gets lynched, and i see everyone went that way so i will

i have been in a trip on my familys home in other city and been crazy busy taking care of my 1 year old gorgeous sweet niece, barely being able to keeping up from long distance work (actually im behind), and trying to read all the pages i was behind when i started. i was 20 pages behind when i started, and, even though i read at nightime and got to page 12, you guys kept advancing at an insane speed rate and im way more behind now. i should be able to improve my speed and time of reading when i return to BA tomorrow, but since tomorrow i will be travelling by bus, and then in the uni, then thursday is the real day i may be able to keep up, or ill do my best to. for now this is all i can do.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:So I dont have the time or energy to read everything that happen before I replaced in, so if anyone could give me a good place to start and the highlights it would be very helpful.

Ikr? Good luck with that, i asked for it days ago when i did the replacement and got no response.

Rip mm

Long Con wrote:It starts with a Will that blindfaeth revealed, believing that it implicated the Will's writer as The Millionaire, due to there being a large sum of money involved. (Correct me with exact wording if that's not quite right). A lot of blah blah blah ensued regarding the wisdom and purpose and probable effect of revealing the Will. It ended up with BF getting a few votes, and BF revealed that Zombarella's name is on the Will. Then BF was lynched, a Civvie.

S~V~S was the first to vote BF, so she got possession of the Will. S~V~S said the Will says something more along the lines of "The holder of the Will will get [Zomba's] items when she dies".

That's how I remember that stuff without going back to see the exact quotes.

Oh well, this would have been helpful when i adked for it, i spent hours reading pages and im still way behind.
Thanks lc even if it was for bass.

It is really really really hard to replace in a game that haves so much goin on so fast, specially when you have so muvm Going on in your life atm

Golden wrote:Lol SVS, I feel the same way you do. I'm not sure how to recap this thread, especially not without it sounding like its based on my own suspicions and not a recap.

Bass, and Sophie - what I would say is that so far this game appears to be a lot of tension and suspicions going back and forth between discrete people. There hasn't been a whole lot of fact or stuff to cling on to. I would summarise the key points as being.

1) Whoever holds the will when Zombs dies gets something that Zombs owns. Maybe it's a large sum of money or maybe it's a small sum of money or maybe it's her items that she holds. Based on what bf and SVS have had to say (and the fact they can't reproduce the wording of the will exactly) it's hard to tell exactly what they will get. I tend to think getting the items she holds makes more sense in the context of the game (but - thats me recapping with my own lens on). BF was lynched for revealing the purpose of the will and then told us the will was zombs will. Oh, another suspicion I personally have - I dunno that the will has been executed and I wouldn't be surprised if the lawyer has to execute it before it will actually function.

2) Lots of people seem to have taken a bit of heat, its hard for me to say who. In fact, it doesn't really seem like anyone has escaped the eye entirely.

3) There has been some talk about the items. I can't recap all of it. Ear horns seem to give info, bottle seems to curse people, I might have forgotten some stuff.

4) Can I suggest a good way to do a read back would be to pick out some specific people when you think they are noteworthy and think about their posts. That might be more enlightening than trying to read the thread wholesale.

5) One important thing. BR died. BR is now bea, not herself. That's kinda confusing, but true. I'm not sure how LC feels about it.

6) The celestials appear not to be a threat to the town.

Please feel free to add anything I've missed, people.

this is really very useful, thanks so much, golden

Golden wrote: Having said that, I don't know that I would ever NK bf on night one. Not unless there was a reason I really had to. And he's just my best mafia bud. So I do understand there is some legitimacy to that argument.

Im not your best mafia bud?

Golden wrote:Aww for sophie.

Another thing I picked up on in day 1.

One thing some of you may not know about me - I studied performance music at university. I've lived in the world of classical music for most of my life. I know a lot of composers by sight.

None of them are Modest Mussorgsky... so how the heck did Epi know that??????? And also, why would Epi call his music that of a somnambulist? Some of his music is fantastic. Anyway, you might note Mussorgsky is one of the pictures that one of the mafia has put on their silencer role. If ever there was a piece of WIFOM, this is it. Epi's next line 'why would I draw attention to the fact I know the identity of one of the mafia pictures if I am mafia'???

Anyway, I found that curious indeed.

wait, if im understanding this correctly, you are saying that epi brought up the name of some obscure composer that even you dont know by sight, and then the pic of that composer appeared in one of the roles of mafia?
if i understood that correctly than wow

Golden wrote:He brought the picture up... after the mafia had selected it as one of their portraits.

oh, ok, ok
so is it a very obscure writer not even a huge expert in classic music would now?

btw golden, is great you know a lot about classical music!! i loved it, but dont know a thing, would like to be one of the areas i know about, but i dont, but i love listening to that music. specially while i work cause it helps me concentrate. i just look for youtubes classic music mixes, and never really know who am i listening, but it sounds so great

*not writer, musician, sorry. I was just thinking about my own area of expertisse

so now you all know that mussorgsky person and i feel like an uneducated bimbo

Golden wrote:You couldn't imply? I'm a percussionist.

My strength is tuned percussion. I like playing timpani, thats what I was playing in the Borodin last year.

Mind you, I don't exercise my percussion bones so often any more, so I'm not as good at it as I used to be.

@sophie - lol, don't worry. But come chat to me about classical music some time, and I will help you find your way to some neat composers and figure out what vibes you like best.

oh yeas please, i usually love the usual beethoven, mozart and vivaldi, but everyone knows who they are, even my 1 year old niece. I ve heard quite a lot of Mahler too.

One of my favourites, though, is this pece. I ve heard it in a movie like 15 years ago and since then i always had it in my mp3s, ipods, phone, and it always haves this epic but also relaxing thing. Maybe you can recommend me something based on this piece?

I loooooooooove this, listen to it and bring some recommendations golden, please!

that music was from this movie:

it used to be one of my favourites movies back then when i was a teenager and were so into the arsty festival type of films. Adagio for strings is even in the trailer. And in the most important part of the movie. It was used beautifully .

sorry for all the offtopicism

Golden wrote:
Sophie wrote:sorry for all the offtopicism
Yeah, how will sophie ever catch up!

pm then with some recommendations, i just love this kind of music, had to say something!

Im here catching up but gotta go to the uni soon. Will be here with more time at night

Yay!no one died
Gotta go now bb later tonight

Long Con wrote:Hello, I am not silenced! Thanks to those who walked through the Zomba-Gilchrist theory again. At first I thought the Silver Buddha theory sounded sketchy, like something that S~V~S made up to be tricky... But after reading it a few times, I'm seeing things differently.

I trust her Buddha story, and I'm glad that I didn't take it first like I was thinking of doing, because she'd be dead right now. I wonder if there's anything in the other newspapers that we should examine with the idea that baddies wrote it?

Very grim for Zomba, I say reluctantly. Sometimes that's how games go.

Still need to re-read the LizKeen BTSC scrap. If that is intended to exonerate Zomba, then this gets even more interesting. I'm not going to make a firm opinion until I hear more from those involved.

i dont understand what this means?

Golden wrote:Sophie, it took me a couple of tries too.

I think what LC meant was, he considered taking the buddha way back on day zero, but he is glad he didn't because it meant SVS was able to and it helped her to survive.

Oh, ok, that makes sense

so can someone help me understand something im still at loss with a couple of things
host said we could discuss our items, right? maybe im wrong about it
but is in the best interest of us civvies to discuss what we got?
maybe we should all say what we have, it could be easier for us to analize everything
maybe this has been discussed in the 30 pages i havent read yet

can someone help me understand how this item thing works exactly cause i still dont fully get it. i have something that it seems completely useless but it might make sense if i comment it here? what about other peoples? has this been discussed?
helpç

Golden wrote:Sophie, did you sub in for Mongoose? It's the telegram you are talking about, right?

I would be careful. We can discuss what we got. BF did, and was lynched. What if it is powerful and so the baddies would kill you for it? It's a risk. It also seems that we can't exactly quote the PM so you have to think do you understand it well enough to rephrase it? I'm happy to help you understand it if you go for it, but if I were you I'd just check whether you think it's something you might get killed for, and only do it if you are ok taking a risk.

ah, ok, so mongoose did say something about it. ok, i get your post. thanks for paying attention to me, golden, sometimes its hard to sub in because everyone is talking so engaged in things i dont fully get and its like a alternative reality of some sort. you know how i am and how i play as a civvie: im super engaged in games, im a high poster, i like to play that way, i dont like to skim on things or just go with the flows, its just the way i like to do it. and since i misssed quite a few pages im failing to understand so i appreciate that you are answering my questions.

now im catching up, currently on page 16 after bf revelaed he had zombrellas will cause he thinks he will be lynched. hope i understand more and became more involved after catching up completely.

S~V~S wrote:
LizKeen wrote:
DFaraday wrote:I don't think a baddie would create such a spectacle around themselves.
This is why I'd have a hard time putting a vote on bf because I'm thinking the same thing. I need to vote as I won't be back around before the day ends and I'm in a quandry as to what to do. I don't know if I'm completely misunderstanding the situation or if Zomberella outed herself but if that's the way to take it I guess I'm going to put my vote on her today. I'm not feeling confident enough about voting a self-voter yet even though I still find it odd. I really wish I had more time to see how this plays out for the next 10 hours.
I don't think he expected a spectacle. Where we used to play, there was a higher tolerance for the wink wink nudge nudge usage of info.

And there are two roles that could be ruined by this, one a civ, one bad. Regardless of which she is, her game is ruined through no fault of her own.

im sorry guys, that i come from the past and bring this up. but in page 16 svs said this and its a good opportunity to ask something i still dont get.
first zombrella said in page 15 her role was ruined for what bf said
then svs said this

can someone explain me why some role will be ruined cause bf said the will belonged to zombrella?? im not following

*goes back to catch up*

oh nevermind, i kept reading and thanks to a bea post and another svs post i think im getting it.

sorry for asking all the time, is hard to know where things come from if you dont have the complete information.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Dom wrote:zomb hasn't played all that much right
Mafia, no. She's played Donner, Death Note, Roger Rabbit, and this.

But apparantly she's played RL Mafia, and other similar deducation-style games.

Linki: Precisely.

real life mafia??? does zomba work as a mafiosa in real life like she go around threatining and killing people?

Black Rock wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Also, I did receive the will. All it says is that if Zomba dies, whoever holds the will will get everything she has. It does NOT say she is wealthy. Just becasue she has a will does not mean she is rich. Normally I would not even post this, but since her name was already out there, I just want to confirm that BF was not lying, but that there is nothing that indicates a specific role holds the will. I thought BF might have been witholding something, but he was not.
Interesting, it sounds like BF might have been reading too much into the will. That does not explain Zombas reaction to her name being said. What do you think about that SVS?

so, let me see if im understanding this correctly. bf recieved a will that says it will inherit everything zomba has if she dies. according to svs here, it doe NOT says she is wealthy. svs also says here that the message doesnt indicate a specific role.

BUT then zombas reaction to bf said he ruined her ROLE. why? if the message didnt indicate any role? this reaction definetely means she has a role direcrlt related to money, such as oliver oliver the civvie or the millonaire the baddie

am i wrong about this?

ok. im sorta catch up with the part of the game i wasnt here, so i think i understand most of what happened back then

now i need to reread the part i WAS here, cause i was reading but sorta skimming in parts, specially cause i didnt have time to do both (read present and past), so i guess i will be rereading the last 10 pages or so tomorrow and will finally be catched up

until now, gotta say, i have my eye on dom and mp (now bass), basically for the same reasons: they kinda overeact and blew things out of proportion when being suspected

im also wary of zomba and the possibility she is the millonaire for her role outing comment, but nothing huge

i need to rea carefully liz keen since a lot of people have been mentioning her

well, enough for today

ah, also, when reading the thread in this part today, i opened a tab and let it rest until i finished my catchup to come back to this, cause i found myself agreeing with him (the dom thing that pings me is what happened after this comment by df, specificially the golden back and forth with dom, but mostly dom behaviour overall) .

and i remember daniel faraday in some games in RM and he was smart, logical, and made good observations

so what i mean with this is: daniel faraday, can you post more? give opinions on everything thats going on? cause your posts really are clear and unseful and i would love to hear your observations about everything

DFaraday wrote:Ugh, all this BF/Golden/SVS/Bullz/Zomberella/Whoever Else stuff is mind boggling. As it stands to me though, I think BF was probably an overexcited civ who made a bad decision. I don't think a baddie would create such a spectacle around themselves. I don't really see anyone in this conflict as particularly suspicious, just a whole lot of butting heads.

I do think it was a bit odd for Dom to specifically point out "us", but not enough to find him actively suspicious.

What I'm most concerned about is that so any people have already voted with so much time left in the lynch. I'm thinking at least one or two of the voters are trying to avoid responsibility, either by self voting or by jumping on the BF bandwagon.

EBWOP: MM, I don't think anyone is picking on you, since it is noteworthy when people vote for themselves. But since you do this a lot, I'm less inclined to think you bad for it here.

BR: just checking if i understood it correctly

rabbit8 wrote:
Long Con wrote:
rabbit8 wrote:I want to vote for Zomba, Liz, then maybe one of these low posters.

I do not have Epi down as civvie, but I'm not willing to lynch someone helping try to find baddies, Liz.

You seem to back peddle on everything you say Liz and that is very incriminating IMO.
What is she backpedalling about?

If you don't think Epig is a Civvie, then what makes you think he's actually trying to find baddies?
Are these some sort of joke questions?

Read her posts, she is back peddling on a lot of things. I'm not your secretary. I f you don't think she is back peddling on what she has brought up I have to wonder about your sanity and or allegiance.

I don't have Epi down a civvie or indy or a baddie. I think he is looking for baddies as I agree with some of his thoughts. What's your point exactly?

Im not your secretary

I kind of read zombad reaction as a frustrated civ, but i could be wrong since im often wrong about this. Is there a posdibilty she is teææing the truth, though? It reminds me of when im wrongfully accused by many (like in rr) and the frustration thatvbrings

LizKeen wrote:[quote="Zombarella"]BTW - You are the only other person I've met who watches the Black List. It really is a great show. I covet Liz's hair.

Golden wrote:I watch the blacklist

I covet Tom Keen. I used to think he was nerdy but now that he's a bad boy he's kinda hot. I don't know anyone who watches it but you two.

SVS, you must be getting up as I go to bed.

I'm really stuck between a rock and a hard place here. If I don't vote Zombarella and she gets lynched and flips bad then I'm going to be accused of being her teammate. If I vote her and she flips civvie then I'm helping lynch another civvie. This really sucks.[/quote]

As a civvie you dont have to think in "what looks good", you have to say what you think and claim whatever you think even if it goes against whatever the rest of the thread thinks.
If they wanna lynch you for it, its they loss, they would lynch a civvie. But maybe your thoughts would be revisited later and they could help the civvies.
At least thats how i play when im civ. Thats why im usually a suspicion every game, and thats why y always tend to survive till the late stages of the game, cause the baddies know they can bring me up for suspicion.

The ONLY times i care about "how things look" and try to really appear civvie, is when im bad. As a baddie i try to be consistent and not to say things "out of tune".

I think the best thing to do for civvies is speak their mind even if they get super suspected because of it

Btw, where is daniel faraday??

Canucklehead wrote:I was never on board with the LizKeen case, so I'm not voting there.
I had strongly considered voting Z, but I think SVS' assessment of her not likely having BTSC this game is pretty sound, so I won't vote there.
I thought Epi's case on LK was....not convincing, but I'm not sure why a bad Epi would push so hard against a player so early....considering a vote there.
LC is LC and I have no particular reason to think he's bad right now, but I don't know if I've ever read LC correctly. I'm not voting there unless something really compelling comes up.
TH seems like civ TH to me.
I think that MP/Bass is an interesting spot to look. I will reread there and maybe consider a vote.
I would consider a vote for Vomps.

What about dom?

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