The Syndicate

A baby ate my dingo!

I know nothing about this show and tbph I prob won't be watching episodes of it on youtube or elsewhere.

I went to school with a Trent who was a real jerkface. I will be voting Trent even though I agree Brent does sound like a snooty name.

Yay I tied it up at 5 vs 5

I will be voting for anyone that votes a new player to me.

*eyes Epi and MP*

Don't understand what LC is on about with the xtancle thing but that does not make him suspicious in my mafia playbook what does read suspiciously is Scotty's take on LC's post about it but I won't be voting Scotty Day 1 but may consider it for Day 2.

I also won't be voting Hambuger Boy, Ika, Sig, Mac's Mom or Saberfish.

I likely will not be voting Das Porcu or Made either.

Everyone else is fair game for me

I am not liking Gmans style this game the Magic 8 balls have always given me the creeps. It, however, is nothing to vote over.

I totes believe SVS when she said she had misread the roles. I read them and still do not understand them all.
Wish I was apje and could ask a ton a poignant questions about them.

I will catch back up after work and see if I feel anything else.

DharmaHelper wrote:

Roxy wrote:I will be voting for anyone that votes a new player to me.

*eyes Epi and MP*

Don't understand what LC is on about with the xtancle thing but that does not make him suspicious in my mafia playbook what does read suspiciously is Scotty's take on LC's post about it but I won't be voting Scotty Day 1 but may consider it for Day 2.

I also won't be voting Hambuger Boy, Ika, Sig, Mac's Mom or Saberfish.

I likely will not be voting Das Porcu or Made either.

Everyone else is fair game for me

I am not liking Gmans style this game the Magic 8 balls have always given me the creeps. It, however, is nothing to vote over.

I totes believe SVS when she said she had misread the roles. I read them and still do not understand them all.
Wish I was apje and could ask a ton a poignant questions about them.

I will catch back up after work and see if I feel anything else.

Would you be willing to explain why the players you mentioned are exempt from your vote?

Sure but you should know me well enough by now to answer this question for yourself.

Scotty, Mac's Mom, Sig, Ika, Saberfish and Hamburger Boy are new players to me since I do not remember playing with them before (I may have played with Ika but I do not remember) so since I do not like to vote for new players I won't vote them on Day 1.

As for that prickly Porcupine and Made - well it has been sometime since I have played with either so I would like to enjoy more than one day of playing with them before I layeth the smackdown of my vote onto them.

Its been awhile since we have played DH so I prob will not vote for you either tbh.

Long Con wrote:DharmaHelper: Do you consider Nightwing to be a first-rate superhero?

Roxy: Would you like to see an extensive example of how Xander and the Xtacles might secure the game a lot more tightly for the Civs, provided it gets the host's blessing?

I actually would like to see it. But also explained simply like you are talking to a child or as in my case an old lady.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Elohcin wrote:durp....day ends tomorrow. No wonder no one's talkin'.

I'm lurking.

and spamming --- just sayin'

Epignosis wrote:I'll probably vote a new person just to incur Roxy's wrath.

MovingPictures07 wrote:So, seriously, who hasn't posted yet (still)?

Sig, Mac's Mom, and Saberfish?

Is that right?

I'm glad, on the one hand, that there haven't been many posts, because my life is super busy right now, but man this is a boring Day 1 so far.

Maybe I'll cast my vote soon.

srsly calm down we have until tomorrow night

Besides if ya posted more it would not be near as boring

Linky - Zany MP? LOL Zany MO does not vote a day early he waits until the funniest moment to place his vote

aww damn

Not Zany MO but Zany MP would wait until it was funniest moment to place his vote

MovingPictures07 wrote:And Rox, I want the new folks to stick around, so I understand your hesitation to vote for them, but I really wish they'd come in and at least say something, even if it's "I don't know what to post".

I don't want Llama's game to be disrespected, and I don't want to have a situation where we have 3+ complete nonparticipants a few cycles from now, and then we have a giant debate as to what to do with them. That's just annoying, IMO.

Thats what MdKills are for and Hosts need to learn to do it.

The last game I hosted (it was not here but on AW) I ModKilled a record 5 people for non participation. I find ModKilling to be quite liberating

thellama73 wrote:

Roxy wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:And Rox, I want the new folks to stick around, so I understand your hesitation to vote for them, but I really wish they'd come in and at least say something, even if it's "I don't know what to post".

I don't want Llama's game to be disrespected, and I don't want to have a situation where we have 3+ complete nonparticipants a few cycles from now, and then we have a giant debate as to what to do with them. That's just annoying, IMO.

Thats what MdKills are for and Hosts need to learn to do it.

The last game I hosted (it was not here but on AW) I ModKilled a record 5 people for non participation. I find ModKilling to be quite liberating

I already have one replacement lined up which I am not afraid to use. I am good friends with Mac's Mom and have ben bugging him to post. He seems very cofused by the whole thing. If it comes to modkilling, I am not above that.

I'll give them a few days though.

also:
If you need another replacement I can force splints to play

LC - Didn't a similar code exist in your and BR's Island game on RM? It was effective until it was shared with the wrong person iirc. Something like this could work here I think.

Linky - *giggles* @ DH

Linky again lemme post!

Also LC looks like prob not bc of llama's post which I missed in linkitis hell

Scotty - if you are normally obnoxious then by all means be yourself I still won't vote for you.
1. Bc I like to give the new players a chance to post and adjust to me and others and it feels more welcoming imo.

2. Bc it also works as a way to give us a both a chance to learn a bit about each others styles before we go off all willy-nilly lynching people.

Also:
I have played on many sites and have never been lynched on my first day as a new player. Even on 2+2 they have grown used to my low posting ways and have yet to lynch me there. What site are you from?

The only thing that pings me for a vote is MM's vote for LC.
He quotes a post and said it reminded him of a rainbow reads list and then said it earned LC his vote
His list had nothing to do with reads and had everything to do with coordinating civvies for a better chance at working together. So my vote is going there later if nothing else occurs to earn my vote.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Roxy wrote:The only thing that pings me for a vote is MM's vote for LC.
He quotes a post and said it reminded him of a rainbow reads list and then said it earned LC his vote
His list had nothing to do with reads and had everything to do with coordinating civvies for a better chance at working together. So my vote is going there later if nothing else occurs to earn my vote.

What motivation would MM have to make this vote as mafia?

As civilian?

Same as any other game.
If he is bad then he is trying to paint LC as bad bc LC had come up with a plan for the civs to work together. A baddie hates when civs try to work together.

As a civvie idk bc I do not think he is a civ.

Tbh I felt your questions were odd and easily answered for yourself.
I thought I made it clear in my post why I found his actions shady.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Who wants an MP rainbow list?

No thanks! Maybe day 3 or so.

Mac's Mom wrote:

Roxy wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Roxy wrote:I will be voting for anyone that votes a new player to me.

*eyes Epi and MP*

Don't understand what LC is on about with the xtancle thing but that does not make him suspicious in my mafia playbook what does read suspiciously is Scotty's take on LC's post about it but I won't be voting Scotty Day 1 but may consider it for Day 2.

I also won't be voting Hambuger Boy, Ika, Sig, Mac's Mom or Saberfish.

I likely will not be voting Das Porcu or Made either.

Everyone else is fair game for me

I am not liking Gmans style this game the Magic 8 balls have always given me the creeps. It, however, is nothing to vote over.

I totes believe SVS when she said she had misread the roles. I read them and still do not understand them all.
Wish I was apje and could ask a ton a poignant questions about them.

I will catch back up after work and see if I feel anything else.

Would you be willing to explain why the players you mentioned are exempt from your vote?

Sure but you should know me well enough by now to answer this question for yourself.

Scotty, Mac's Mom, Sig, Ika, Saberfish and Hamburger Boy are new players to me since I do not remember playing with them before (I may have played with Ika but I do not remember) so since I do not like to vote for new players I won't vote them on Day 1.

As for that prickly Porcupine and Made - well it has been sometime since I have played with either so I would like to enjoy more than one day of playing with them before I layeth the smackdown of my vote onto them.

Its been awhile since we have played DH so I prob will not vote for you either tbh.

I'm not new. I'm as old as dirt, son. I highly recommend you respect your elders, lest I cut myself a switch and give ya the kind of punishment me pappy gave me as a lad.

Um- first I am not your "son" bc I am a girl and a mother. Second if anyone is giving the switch to anyone it would be as I am a mom . third you are new to this site which now makes your whole post a moot effort
Fourth. I do like your style

Lmao!

MM - are you not going to address my suspicion of you?

Well I have waited long enough for any response from MM.
Vote MM

Just an acknowledgement of my suspicion wojuld have been nice since you avoided it made my nose twitch hence my vote.

also cool news I broke a tie
Linky you are too late I am sorry

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Roxy wrote:also cool news I broke a tie
Linky you are too late I am sorry

Depends who you are. I find the news very uncool.

If you would have said anything when you were on earlier maybe you could have quelled my suspicion as it stands you still have yet to say anything.

Scotty wrote:Or Hamburger Boy. Roxy followed him immediately on sig, and sig, imo was the easy vote. sig could have definitely snowballed more. I'd feel like I'd lean more in his direction than even Roxy.

Before you start making ass-u-mptions you should check your facts so you do not spew misinformation

Scotty wrote:Show me someone else on Day 1 that had more reason to feel suspicious of someone.

I thought my rasoning was better than yours for sure and just as good as LC's.

Scotty wrote:If people don't ask you questions and you don't answer? That's MM's style, I've found. And this is the 3rd game I've played with him and only the 1st where I've learned whether or not he is civ. 

If this is his new style I pity him bc if I ask a question or have a suspicion and he does not respond then he can expect to get my vote again.

DharmaHelper wrote:Epi won't be getting my vote for some time. He's making nonsense points and ignoring actual suspects. Clearly civvie Epi.

Is this all you care to post after catching up?

DharmaHelper wrote:

Roxy wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:Epi won't be getting my vote for some time. He's making nonsense points and ignoring actual suspects. Clearly civvie Epi.

Is this all you care to post after catching up?

No. I'm working on a rather large post. If you must know.

I must!

Always look forward to your thoughts DH!

Hrm too bad about Scotty and sad about Elo ruining her record

Just to respond to what Scotty was wrong about in the post I quoted and asked him to get his facts straight - I was pointing out the post bc he had said I had followed Hamburger Boy in a vote for sig when I had said I would not vote sig - I voted MM.

Looking at a few things then working will give thoughts later.

Sig wrote:Page 5 Roxy pinged me, saying he/she? wouldn't vote for new players and would vote against anyone who voted for a new player. I'm all for voting for a new player and I think saying lets not lynch a new player is a good way for mafia members to slip by, they could either be new players or justify not voting for new players who are mafia by saying they don't want to vote for a new person.

How many Roxy's do you know that are boys? I am a girl.

Idc what you think about my stance on voting for new players or returning old players. If you find it suspicious so be it.

HamburgerBoy wrote:

nijuukyugou wrote:I also dig the idea of a newbie/fairly newbie being on Team Killface due to the NK - not that I don't think Eloh is an awesome player but she really isn't ever killed Night 1. It's an unusual choice. But then again, that could make a helluva WIFOM. Just thought of that. I'll keep it all in mind.

So you would concur that scum doesn't really use their BTSC much here?

No I would NOT concur. Whenever I have BTSC sometimes I cannot go to chatzy so I will FB or PM my teamies to keep in touch. Otherwise I quite enjoy BTSC as it gives you a chance to get to know other players.
Though it must be noted some people do not like to chat.

Ans since no one else asked but instead ass-u-me -'d---

llama man - Was the last lynch a tie?

dammit! ebwop-

Roxy wrote:Ans since no one else asked but instead ass-u-me -'d---

llama man - Was the last lynch a tie?

thoughts (such as they are)

Daisy/MP - I must keep in mind that Daisy has an excellent track record of reading MP very well. She said this looked to be his baddie game so I will be keeping that in mind moving forward. For the newbs - MP however is horrible at reading Daisy.
I could very easily vote MP. His self vote vote feels all slippery sick Sock or not.

Cookie - Kept saying she was suspicious of Timmer but *surprise* when she actually, ya know, read his posts she was no longer suspicious. I just found the whole thing to feel quite ingenuous. I could vote here.

Epi - Your entire list is of new players - except Timmer. Why? And why Timmer? Also I doubt very srsly that llama did not rand roles and put all newbs in a baddie group together. Unless you know something I don't - are we not supposed to random roles in every game we host? (maybe one or two tweaks tops?)

Gman- your insanification may very well have been Made. But it also could have been Epi or DH for the lolz. I could also see you do it to yourself. It is def not out of the realm of possibility as it could be used to help clear you from that role.

also:

's

On everyone who limits their hunt of KF to Burger Boy, SVS or me.

Epignosis wrote: <<<<<snippety-do-dah>>>>>>>

I explained why.

My response is purple
Ok but I totes disagree with your assessment. It could be you who killed Elo for the wifom and to be able to point out a theory that only involves newbs. It could have been any of us tbf and imo.

<<<snippy-snip>>>>>
What is your opinion of Saberface? I think he's either Killfish or on that team.

I am waiting to get a response from llama to my tie question.
In my mind it has to be:

Me (I know it is not me)

SVS (Someone pointed out earlier that it is unlike SVS not to stand by a minor suspicion for a vote Day 1 - I too found it odd she did not vote for you or MP)

Burger Boy (shifty vote is shifty for sure) could vote here

Saberfish (His vote for Mac's Mommy was odd and stretching for any reason NOT to vote one of the top vote getters. It did seem like he plopped his vote down on someone who would not garner any further votes and would be a very safe place for a KF vote) could vote here today

LC (His vote for Scotty I could see coming esp since he posted his suspicion prior to voting giving Scotty time to respond. However, I also could see this as a way for LC to avoid scrutiny bc he knew no others would prob vote Scotty so also a safe vote to place that would not arouse suspicion for KF. Again it would be a kind wifom vote bc he did make the big Xtcle post but baddies help civ's all the time. Not sure if this enough for me to vote for him based on this but it is something I have notated on my ss)

But if it was a tie then it could be anyone tbh.

That is true Ep.

Been listening to Jimi Hendrix and was thinking about next Christmas I bet you can play Stone Free or Crosstown Traffic for me on my next cd, right? I mean your Little Wing cover is fucking fantasic.

thellama73 wrote:

Roxy wrote:dammit! ebwop-

Roxy wrote:Ans since no one else asked but instead ass-u-me -'d---

llama man - Was the last lynch a tie?

Did it look like a tie? You just have to go by the votes you can see.

You suck tbqh

How about a straight answer? - Yes or No?

DharmaHelper wrote:Any thoughts on my big post, Roxy?

Yes and thanks for doing a nice vote analysis

Gman - His vote for Epi plus his subsequent insanity makes it very easy for a baddie to hide. I could see him self-insanify for civ cred and see that as a very plausible action. I agree his 8-ball gimmick leaves a lot to be desired unlike his gif/img gimmick he can really not get his suspicions out and stated.

Made - his vote for Timmer is quite odd. He started off by saying he was in a voting Blooper kind of mood but then instead of following his own suspicion he follows who he is suspicious of and votes with Blooper against Timmer - like what? It all felt very fishy upon re-read.

MP- I have my eye for different reasons. Daisy's suspicion of him piqued my interest. She is very good at reading him so I must give her suspicion my full attention.

Bubbles - Seems extra blendy this game. Is not really standing out nor is she standing up and strongly voicing her opinions.


I could vote for any of these listed tbqh.

S~V~S wrote:

Roxy wrote:
SVS (Someone pointed out earlier that it is unlike SVS not to stand by a minor suspicion for a vote Day 1 - I too found it odd she did not vote for you or MP)

I tend to tunnel on those particular people. I still think the whole thing felt faux to me, but I generally always read MP that way. Several people weighed in that they felt it would be out of character for Epi to act as I thought it looked to me. I am trying to be less tunnelish as it jest leads to shouting matches and grief for me. If the whole thing was a joke on Epis part, then i wish people would not joke about suspicions, becasue I have issues sometimes differentiating humor when i can't see peoples faces. I thought he was serious, some seem to think he was kidding. He dropped it quickly enough.

Well then this is a new thing for you so I will take what you say under advisement. Though it was weird not to see you follow your own suspicion esp on Day 1.
I have seen you tunnel MP hard and vice versa but what do you think of Daisy's suspicion of MP? Do you agree with her?

Long Con wrote:

Roxy wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Roxy wrote:dammit! ebwop-

Roxy wrote:Ans since no one else asked but instead ass-u-me -'d---

llama man - Was the last lynch a tie?

Did it look like a tie? You just have to go by the votes you can see.

You suck tbqh

How about a straight answer? - Yes or No?

You want Llama to reveal Killface to us, basically?

No I want to know if it was a tie. Which will not out KF. If it was a tie then the suspect pool will be even bigger.

also forgot - If it was not a tie then it would have to be Me, SVS or Burger Boy. Is that what you think?

Long Con wrote:

Roxy wrote:also forgot - If it was not a tie then it would have to be Me, SVS or Burger Boy. Is that what you think?

Yes, that is what I think. I think that if it was not a tie, then one of you three is probably Killface. I also think that if it was a tie, then everyone involved is definitely not Killface. I also think that it's not up to the host to narrow it down for us like that... he could, I suppose, but I just doubt he will.

I respectfully disagree. Maybe I am thinking wrong and my logic flawed (would not be the first time nor the last) but it is my logic so I will follow it.

What do you think of Me, SVS and Burger Boy?

sig wrote:@Roxy I never assume genders, on a faceless internet site you could have picked your name from anything, so it is always good to be clear. You completely discount what I think about how you vote that is fine, but you seem to have an attitude and just blow off what I said. The whole point of mafia is to point what you find suspicious so should I have not commented at all or you are just going to ignore and not care what I say, not a very good strategy.

I think one of the three who voted for Metal is Killface and at the very least mafia. Saber could be mafia but why if he was killface would he ask about ties in the thread and not in BTSC or even Pm to the host/mod.

Tiny what do you think of the game so far who do you find the most suspicious?
Hamburger boy, who would you like to vote for this phase and why?

I do not discount it I just do not care about it. If you want to find me suspicious for not wanting to vote new/returning players Day 1 so be it. Just get used to it bc I am that way every game.
I do not know what more you want me to say in response to your post that I disagree with.

DP - I notice you are around who are your top 2 suspects and why?

I have so many that I am willing to vote for today: Saberfish, MP, Cookie, Burger Boy, Made, Bubbles or DP if he does not answer my question

Linky - oooooo Now you are suspicious of Timmer------again after you said after reading back you did not find him suspicious?

Cookie -
Lemme clarify - you said you found some of his posts strange and would re-read him. After you re-read him you said they seemed less suspicious and would be keeping an eye on him.

HamburgerBoy wrote:Roxy, could you explain your particular suspicion here?

HamburgerBoy wrote:

Roxy wrote:Burger Boy (shifty vote is shifty for sure) could vote here

Why me? If anything I should be one of the least likely to be KillFace, unless you mean anyone on that team (the context of your post would indicate KillFace the fellow in particular though). By voting on someone that had one vote, my vote would have resulted in MM's lynch among several other people tied in second. It would be more logical for me to vote for someone with no votes, or vote for someone that already had two, if I were Killface.

It was your reasoning that I found shifty. It was like you put no thought or care into your vote and instead focused on keeping ties.

nijuukyugou wrote:So many choices. I thought there would be more votes up given that several have announced their vote in the thread, but there are only 5 total so far? Huh.

Feeling slightly, slightly better about Made regarding tone, but that could be just him fixin' it up for me Thoughts on timmer haven't changed since I last spoke of him. Then this happens:

Roxy wrote:I have so many that I am willing to vote for today: Saberfish, MP, Cookie, Burger Boy, Made, Bubbles or DP if he does not answer my question

Linky - oooooo Now you are suspicious of Timmer------again after you said after reading back you did not find him suspicious?

Yes, this caught my eye as well. Trying to look more contributory, Cookie McNasty? I pointed out these same exactly things (minus the most recent quotes) when I voted him last and you made no comment on them then.

Thats bc it was Day 1 and even though Cookie was not on my list I realized I had no prior experience with her. Day 2 I give no breaks to anyone

Cookie wrote:

Roxy wrote:Cookie -
Lemme clarify - you said you found some of his posts strange and would re-read him. After you re-read him you said they seemed less suspicious and would be keeping an eye on him.

I know what I said. There's no need to clarify anything to me. I found him suspicious, then I reread it and thought I was just reading into him too far, but then I decided to post my thoughts. I never stopped finding him suspicious.

Cookie - Also don't lump me with Blooper I never said your posts were fluff. I did think your earlier back pedal on Timmer was of note and now instead of keeping an eye on him you are considering a vote. I have never played with you so i do not know if your flip-floppy-ness is normal

Linky - fair enough Burger Boy.

G-Man wrote:FYI- once groveling Living Statue Rahl enjoy tracked details tantalize to villain right Long Con to my Magic 8 Ball routine. If you want me to talk, you'll have to straitlaced questions. That's how piguid works.

Ok I will.

I am so tempted to vote MP even though it wouldn't be fair as he has not had time to respond or interact properly.

Epi - if you do think it is a claim - who are you looking at to vote? What do you think of Cookie now?

sig wrote:We only have thirty minuets, again to those who haven't voted I think Saber is mafia if I'm wrong it gets us much closer to catching Killer. At this point we already have a smallish pool of who killer could be and lynching Saber would decrease that, I find his earlier vote to be suspicious, and as I said I really do believe he is mafia. I'm not sure about Made so I would prefer not having him lynched I would need to read more of his posts and the arguments to lynch him, but I could be fine with a Cookie lynch as well, not as happy as a Saber lynch, but it would be okay since he has pinged me. However, at this point I don't think we should lynch MP I don't see any strategic advantage of lynching him, over Saber.

You don't think he claimed xtcle?