The Syndicate

Pleasure to meet everyone. My name is DrWilgy and I am most definitely a doctor.

I see some familiar faces, and some new friends here. Let's all have fun playing together.

unfurl wrote: I already talk what I wanted to talk about, I said my 2 cents and I feel good about it
Freedom of choice, everyone is free to talk about whatever makes then feel they are playing

I voted for unfurl the moment I read this, but I'm still in the process of learning what I can about this site and it's players. I generally don't involve myself to heavily day one, but I am willing to vote for someone who posts as if they are wanting to appear while not contributing anything. From what I've experienced, players like that do nothing but make the game harder to solve. I'd take someone who doesn't speak at all over someone who speaks too much while saying nothing.

Now, to address how I would recruit... (and yes, do make a chart, I enjoy charts)

If I were to recruit as a baddie and had the free options to recruit whomever, my recruits would be solely for mindgames. An example of this would be, if I were TinyBubbles and recruiting another player I would recruit would be Llama. I would pick the players that would cause the most confusion and chaos, even if it meant recruiting some players only to sacrifice them.

If I were to recruit as a civvie and had the free options to recruit whomever, my recruits would be players that are very much active in the thread, and are known for strong civ play.

*Stands up from his chair and starts some slow music* Now Unfurl, will you take my hand and join me in this dance?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Could you say why you'd pick those players specifically? The stated motive is what I'm tracking, though this post might make for nice reference material later.

Got em! JJJ is obviously a baddie tracker

I do hope I am color coding everything appropriately. A question for anyone, on average how long does it take before players start putting in their votes? Is the fact that I voted first when I did unsettling to anybody? If so, then why?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Are you unsettled by the possibility of someone being unsettled by the timing of your vote?

I am, it is quite unsettling, the possibility of someone being unsettled by the timing of my vote, but what is worse is the unsettling caused by this conversation about the state of unsettlement.

No, not really. Just making sure I don't go around committing taboos. I would look at older games to learn more if I had time, hopefully I can do so when my schedule clears up.

birdwithteeth11 wrote: DFaraday: I forgot he was even playing.
Devin: He's posted a bit more, and I know he's behind, but I'd still like to hear something from him that's.....well, kind of his idea.
DrWilgy: The early vote thing may or may not mean anything. Can anyone answer if he's new to mafia or if he has played on another forum before?

BWT, this has been explained previous. Actually this has been explained previous multiple times now. I'm from JTM, and the fact that you somehow missed multiple accounts of that explanation bothers me.

I have a new angle. We have information, it's the contest. Does anyone know if anyone else here would be considered artsy? If so who would that artsy person find the challenge to be more enticing to participate in for strictly the compitition? I suppose what I'm asking is, who would want to enter that challenge? Who has a history of wanting to be a baddie?

Can people verify if SVS is artsy in specific for me as well?

Ricochet wrote:Well, with votes being changeable, this favors Wilgy's gameplay from JTM (did he know beforehand, though, lol? or did he just noticed, after casting his first vote), nevertheless voting without saying much or anything is still frowned upon, so I'm hoping to hear what determined his new vote. I played with him on JTM and I remember his activity being just as low, he was clipped as mafia after the first Night in that game.

I figured it out while playing with the poll. I cannot explain my vote due to it interfering with some rules.

Unfurl, you are my nee friend OK?

I only got 1 response on my question about SVS. Its rather important, even more so than my other questions.

MM89, you me and Unfurl are all on a team now. Ok?

I asked if you were an artist or not.

Just wondering.

Is there anything wrong with me wanting friends? Nothing more nothing less. Unfurl, I want to be friends with you due to me voting for you so quickly. I'm sorry about that. Players have vouched for you and I may have made a mistake. MM86 and I have played together already, and I can see us becoming good friends as well. That's why I chose them!

Turnip Head wrote:When did you realize that you could change your vote?

Always thought I could.

Typhoony wrote:Is DrWilgy always like this?

I'm generally more chaotic, don't have the time for that now.

If you want a reference game: http://jesustoastmafia.com/index.php/topic,134.0.html

That was my first forum mafia game.

@SVS, I will answer your question as soon as I can. I promise.

Switched to BWT. I agree with what has been discussed and also had some suspicions from earlier.

Yay!!! Unfurl is my friend! Let's do this!!!

Rico, it was when he had asked about me, even though my existence was already explained.

@DharmaHelper, just click to look at my posts why. I haven't said that much so it should be easy.

TinyBubbles wrote: I seemed to have missed it too, damn it for the record i probably wouldn't have voted gman, russ, or golden because they seem to be genuine.

A pointless comment. This bothers me.

S~V~S wrote: Linki, there are a lot of pointless comments going on, get used to it Wilgy, friend of Unfurl & MM. Although i am curious about why those specific people seem genuine enough to rate a remark.

Hmm... I'm trying to get used to it, but this one stands out to me. Immediately, no one benefits from this comment other than Tiny. Why say this now, and not wait until next day?

aapje wrote: @Hosts:
Does the shield spinner only protect from NKs?
How does Terras' protection work? What does it protect from and when is it active?
Also since all colours are already claimed, I am just going to use them all for questions :P

Fucking hell aapje. I can dig it though.

I'm voting along with Unfurl.

bea wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:I only got 1 response on my question about SVS. Its rather important, even more so than my other questions.

MM89, you me and Unfurl are all on a team now. Ok?

ok - so your question was about svs being aritstic right? I don't know her to be personally so, but as others have pointed out. Good google images searches make that a moot point really...I personally can't make a *bad* paint drawing as well as like well - others not playing this game, but I know how google images search works....

As to wheither I think she is bad or not yet, no. I don't. I haven't seen her say or do anything that I wouldn't expect her to say or do.I know her pretty well, but tbh, it's in regular games about day 3-4 when I get my feelings about her.

And while I'm here, I need to ask you, good doctor of the wiggle, - I've seen several people post defenses of you based on "he's from JMT." - Please explain this to me. I know during the champions game, there was all SORTS of cross over and we all met and blended and everyone is trying different things in different forums. Except that - I missed all that. I was sadly absent as I was acclimating to a new job and new responsibilities. So I don't know about your history at your home site and I don't understand what "He's from JMT" means. I want to understand that Please explain it to me.

MM summarized it relatively well. So far, from what I have seen here, I would describe JTM being a... Saltier environment? Yes, saltier! that's the best word to describe it. Votes not being locked within the thread mostly serve as a tool for debate.

Ricochet wrote:

A penny for your thoughts?

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Oh ho ho ho!!! What a juicy night!! juicy juicy night indeed!! *Does a twirl*

MM, Unfurl! Let us pull our thoughts together to fully analyze this situation! Let us figure why these two!

...

Or not...

I will return eventually though! My work schedule does not allow me to analyze this fully currently... ALSO!!! it is past night 1 and you may look at me in all my beauty! I am DrWilgy, and I am most definitely a doctor!
*Grabs a nearby tablecloth, and pulls it knocking everything down that was on the table. Wilgy wraps the cloth around himself like a cape and jumps through the nearest window laughing.




He then pokes head back through the window he just left through, looks around, and then looks towards Ricochet*
Also @Rico, don't worry too much about me. Everything I have said has purpose, but there is nothing that I am currently hiding.

MM, and others make sure you bold your posts for the hosts

Vote registered for thellama73

My analysis on the situation at hand is coming soon. Just got off work. All I gotta do now is dance. Will one of you lovely ladies join me?

Spacedaisy wrote:I'm confused. I mean I know what is going on with MP voting llama, but where are these other votes coming from? I feel like I've missed a step somewhere...

*Spacedaisy trips, but Wilgy catches her before she lands* Do be careful. If you miss a step in this dance, you will surely get hurt.

Spacedaisy wrote:I don't think that was a threat, I think he was just playing around, apparently I became his dance partner without knowing it. Which is totally fine with me, as long as he doesn't mind me stepping on his feet, because I can't dance...

Well allow me to teach you afew steps! pay attention and you may learn something new!

MovingPictures07 wrote:I don't care if other people want to dance around it. But I'm the admin here. And it's uncomfortable as fuck whenever Llama and Rico interact almost all of the time. I don't know how you all feel. But they clearly never see eye to eye and have the worst passive aggressive arguments of any two players I see on this site. So yeah, when I say Rico was going after Llama for shit he always pulls, yeah, that's why I dismissed it completely.

AAYYYYYY!!!

Boomslang wrote:DrWilgy just kind of did a drive-by; analysis is apparently forthcoming, but I don't see why he didn't delay his vote until he could post that justification, as we still have plenty of time.

I think Llama has a point, and I think you've been very aggressive in your defense. Which doesn't make you bad, but it does indicate you're taking the suspicion fairly seriously.

Do not worry good Boomslang! the analysis is coming, and I believe I got what I wanted out of voting for Llama.

Vote registered for MovingPictures07

Now MP, tell me why this pattern is forming. You have voted for someone who has already been voted for and it's been the second vote both times. I'm addressing this now, due to your aggression levels. Do respond when you can.

Just busy. I accidentally fell asleep after work while writing it. Things have changed since my vote, and my time is shorter.

And by it I mean my analysis.

*The lights in the room cut off, and a spotlight turns on revealing a rather handsome man clad in a tuxedo and a matching mask. With one hand he gracefully moves his hand to his mask, the other he runs through his hair. He removes the mask to reveal himself as the good DrWilgy, and he points a finger to the sky* Everyone! The doctor has returned! MM and Unfurl, let's do this together now!

Boomslang wrote:DrWilgy, I see you creeping this thread. Care to explain your switch vote to MP? Because that's really, really sketchy, especially as you've been less than forthcoming with your llama vote analysis (other than to say you "got what you wanted" out of it). Right now, you strike me as very opportunistic.

Opportunistic, yes, very much so. Does this bother you? In regards to creeping, I was merely staying upto pace. I can't be falling too far behind. My vote switch to MP is simple, I wanted to pressure them. I do have an inclination to think that they are scum based upon the voting pattern I saw being formed. Until something else stands out to me, my vote will remain there.

The Llama vote and analysis are two different things, I wanted to see what would happen if a vote was placed on Llama. That's all.

Here's my analysis and thoughts so far, don't expect chronological order, I simply picked through things I found interesting:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:MP, I believe Rico has a correct tally somewhere, but I was not keeping track of votes that were not stated in the thread. Then again, neither would the hosts...

Not sure how much we can gleam from D1's no result at all then.

This is another reason why I can confidently place my vote on MP. While this post may not contain much, suggesting that something has no informative value is wrong. All things are rational and have a reason for happening. Even suggesting that information is useless, can translate to "This evidence is irrelevant" which is always super scummy.

Golden wrote:

Spacedaisy wrote:I saw the move he was making before Epi died. Personally, I say well played. He wanted Epi out and he made it happen, either with a kill or baiting a kill. I can't say I am glad Epi is dead necessarily, but I'm impressed.

I'm not going to pretend that I'm 'glad' epi is dead either. I like playing mafia with epi. I just don't think him being alive was in my interests this game.

I'm in agreement with Spacedaisy that Golden is probably neutral (nothing has made me believe differently at least) and I read this comment as genuine. The thing I don't understand is what kind of role Golden has that would benefit solely from Epig's death?

Ahh the Ravens are squaking...

Keeper of Ravens wrote:CHAOS! CHAOS IS UPON US! Brothers and Sisters if we are to survive this
plite, questions must be answered immediately! You know the questions.
For the answers... you must look north, for there you will find truth."

Before we figure out what this means, we need to figure out what part of this is bs and what part is informative. Plite being spelled how it is is interesting. If there is deeper meaning behind this, I would assume that north is a person, just who is it? Canuck?

*The courtroom is silent, Wilgy walks up to the podium and gestures to Unfurl and MM. The remaining players are focusing intently*
Your Honor! *dignified* I have seen a reaction here to what unfolded last night that caught my eye.

bea wrote:

Black Rock wrote:

Speaker of Serenity wrote:Please lynch Turnip Head. That is all.

what do you think of this DH?

Why DH in specific?

My thoughts on Bass the Cleaver right now are that I don't want to vote with him, but I also don't want to vote for him. We played a game together recently, and his activity and general tone were the exact same. The part that worries me is that we were both mafia at the time.

Setting: Spring time, flowers are in bloom and every now and then their petals are picked up by the cool wind. Wilgy stands under a shady tree outside the small convenience store. Wilgy looks upset by a thought placed in his head.

Roxy wrote: As to Dr Wigly - Dr who? Bc I do not remember much from him except his new found friendship with MM and his crush unfurl. I do not think he is a recruiter nor do I think he has been recruited aorn.

This is cute, but I am most definitely out of Unfurl's league, who am I to have feelings for her?
Wilgy ducks his head and sheds a single tear as he walks home from the store. Under the tree where he was standing there is a piece of paper that reads in Wilgy's handwriting:
More to come soon, I really wish I didn't become as busy today as I did. It's time for me to sleep now so I only posted things I saw as necessary. Also, I believe using a rez on a sorcerer is a bad Idea.

*Shivers* Ooh yes!! this has taken a rather interesting turn! *Goes into the kitchen to retrieve much needed coke and whisky*

Do forgive me my friends! I have fallen rather behind. From a quick skim I have decided that I'm more comfortable with a Bass lynch than a Golden lynch. So that this will happen I have changed my vote

Vote registered for Bass the Cleaver

Now do not fear everyone. I shall respond to everything shortly.

I would also like to point out that I personally don't think that Golden is a good recruit target.

*Does a twirl*

Just another reason why I think people should go Bass instead, if it is between the two.

Wilgy's Dance Partner wrote:

Delicious wrote:DrW kind of reminds me of Merlin the Wizzard. *wipes tear*

That is a high compliment Dr.Wilgy! Merlin is a good guy, and very humorius writer. Miss that guy.

Well if it is a compliment then I shall happily accept and tuck it under my hat! *Bows* Thank you Good Nutella, thank you Good SpaceDaisy. Maybe one day I will have the honor of discussing with this fellow!

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:A few points for DrWilgy to address:

Spoiler: show

DrWilgy wrote:*The lights in the room cut off, and a spotlight turns on revealing a rather handsome man clad in a tuxedo and a matching mask. With one hand he gracefully moves his hand to his mask, the other he runs through his hair. He removes the mask to reveal himself as the good DrWilgy, and he points a finger to the sky* Everyone! The doctor has returned! MM and Unfurl, let's do this together now!

Boomslang wrote:DrWilgy, I see you creeping this thread. Care to explain your switch vote to MP? Because that's really, really sketchy, especially as you've been less than forthcoming with your llama vote analysis (other than to say you "got what you wanted" out of it). Right now, you strike me as very opportunistic.

Opportunistic, yes, very much so. Does this bother you? In regards to creeping, I was merely staying upto pace. I can't be falling too far behind. My vote switch to MP is simple, I wanted to pressure them. I do have an inclination to think that they are scum based upon the voting pattern I saw being formed. Until something else stands out to me, my vote will remain there.

The Llama vote and analysis are two different things, I wanted to see what would happen if a vote was placed on Llama. That's all.

Here's my analysis and thoughts so far, don't expect chronological order, I simply picked through things I found interesting:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:MP, I believe Rico has a correct tally somewhere, but I was not keeping track of votes that were not stated in the thread. Then again, neither would the hosts...

Not sure how much we can gleam from D1's no result at all then.

This is another reason why I can confidently place my vote on MP. While this post may not contain much, suggesting that something has no informative value is wrong. All things are rational and have a reason for happening. Even suggesting that information is useless, can translate to "This evidence is irrelevant" which is always super scummy.

The llama vote that preceded your MP vote remains unexplained unless I missed it. Why did you place that vote?

Regarding your explanation for voting MP: citing an intent to increase pressure on him strikes me as a rather fruitless endeavor. MP was already under a solid amount of pressure (as he so often seems to be around here) and he was spewing a great deal of content in the face of that pressure. What more did you need from him to substantiate your read? The post you referenced to expand on your suspicion does not do your vote much justice either -- it's a very minor post within the fuller context of MP's post history and frankly very easy to criticize.

This,

DrBeautiful (Wilgy) wrote:The Llama vote and analysis are two different things, I wanted to see what would happen if a vote was placed on Llama. That's all.

I've never played in a game where votes are not changeable. This has lead to a curiosity based voting habit.

And in regards to MP,
I disagree with you seeing my attempts as fruitless, and that is where we are different. Where there is information to be gained, I will gladly take all I can get, even if it means placing a vote on someone who is already spewing *Shivers* That word... It is not a good word...

Aaannd...
*Wilgy throws down a smokebomb, but, to his dismay, a breeze picks up and blows the smoke away. Wilgy is left standing there with an awkward smile facing his friends*
/sigh... Perhaps you are right about my vote, but I am still very suspicious. The power of suggestion is a strong thing, and I'm willing to criticize anyone willing to use it in a dangerous manner. Maybe I haven't fully adjusted to this environment.

Roxy wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

If Bass is somehow a recruited mafia, my bet's on Rox for his teammate.

I am leaving the thread before I pee all over MP

Unknown to both Roxy and MP, there was a sad Wilgy with a camera hiding behind the curtains.

*begins a slow clap*

Did someone ask for a Hulk Hoagie? No? OH WELL!!!

I SUMMON YOU FROM THE DEPTHS OF THE UNDERWORLD! COME FORWARD BROTHER!

The C-130's propeller's were roaring through the sky. The pilot looked back at Wilgy and gave him a thumbs up. At the same time, MM and Unfurl awoke from a (somewhat forcibly induced) deep sleep, but before they could even enter a state of confusion wondering where they were, the back cargo door opened and Wilgy pushed them both (with parachutes) out of the plane. Wilgy then leaped from the plane behind them and, while laughing like a maniac and screaming they soared through the sky.

DAY 3 HERE WE COME!!!

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Nothing more annoying than a failed spoiler tag.

*Places hand on JJJ's back* It's ok friend... For I accidentally left out a vital comma after the word screaming...

Scotty wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Nothing more annoying than a failed spoiler tag.

*Places hand on JJJ's back* It's ok friend... For I accidentally left out a vital comma after the word screaming...

You've been quite touchy-feely with the players this game. What kind of doctor did you say you were?

Scotty wrote:ALSO A REMINDER TO EVERYONE!!!

Uzbekistan can lock the thread today, which I'm assuming means for the entirety of the day phase, so if you have something you want to say, it may be a good idea to get it out sooner rather than later.

OH! crap... I shouldn't have procrastinated... I got to sleep now, I will try to do as much as I can in the morning... I've been busy car shopping and torturing my little brother...

OH GOD OH GOD OH GOD

*TUTORING, not torturing... Flippant autocorrect... Just you wait Samantha, I'll get you...

D:

Why are we voting Unfurl? She is my friend...

(still catching up @ -200 posts)

Sorsha wrote: My thoughts on the matter is whoever is really hounding golden in the thread did it. But is it a silly question to ask who would set golden up?

I'm upto date and I'm not voting for Golden. Sorsha, what has you thinking someone hounding him is framing him?

If it is one of the players hounding him, who are they? DH, SVS and rey?

*Pokes head over the window seal, looks inside to see Golden vs. the world still happening, ducks down just as quickly as he appeared. Some scribbling is heard, and a note appears on the window seal, nobody seems to notice the note though.*

*Roxy notices the note and reads it*

Vote registered for SVS

Out of everything I've observed, I'm uncomfortable with how hard both SVS and Rey went in on Golden. I still think Golden is neutral, he's posting too much without doing anything that makes me think he's any worse than neutral. SVS is also one of the players that received a vote day 1, meaning there's a chance for her to be Azura. I'll change my vote to save Golden if needed, but only if he doesn't self vote.

Also, don't strafe too far away from the players that avoided lynch day 1 (this includes me... I know...).

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:DrWilgy, why should the players who received Day 1 votes be of special interest?

*Another note appears on the window seal*

not Azura, but Ubzargan. I'm dumb and got the baddies names mixed up in my head. Ubzargan was immune to lynch day 1, meaning there's a higher chance of hitting him if we vote for those who received a vote day 1.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:DrWilgy, why should the players who received Day 1 votes be of special interest?

*Another note appears on the window seal*

not Azura, but Ubzargan. I'm dumb and got the baddies names mixed up in my head. Ubzargan was immune to lynch day 1, meaning there's a higher chance of hitting him if we vote for those who received a vote day 1.

They day ended early though, should we assume it was lynch immunity? I haven't thought so.

*Flings a paper wad through the window, constant scribbling can now be heard coming from outside*

Just because the day ended early doesn't mean our votes at the time of the end were irrelevant. RNG chose someone to die out of all 12 of us that had 1 vote. RNG happened to choose someone that didn't die though.

*Another wad of paper flies through the window*

RNG is short for Random Number Generator. Whenever something is at random it can be called RNG.

MovingPictures07 wrote:I myself am suffering an existential crisis! Help!

*Wilgy enters the room, walks up to MP and pats them on the back afew times before waddling out of the room*

MovingPictures07 wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:I myself am suffering an existential crisis! Help!

*Wilgy enters the room, walks up to MP and pats them on the back afew times before waddling out of the room*

Beware, touching a Sock during a mainframe breakdown can result in various unintended side effects, including PTSD, Post-Traumatic-Sock Disorder.

*a paper airplane with writing on it flies through the window*

Oh no... It has begun!! MM! Unfurl! Heeeeelp!!!

MovingPictures07 wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:I myself am suffering an existential crisis! Help!

*Wilgy enters the room, walks up to MP and pats them on the back afew times before waddling out of the room*

Beware, touching a Sock during a mainframe breakdown can result in various unintended side effects, including PTSD, Post-Traumatic-Sock Disorder.

*a paper airplane with writing on it flies through the window*

Oh no... It has begun!! MM! Unfurl! Heeeeelp!!!

OMG

BROTHER?

Yes? Brother.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:I myself am suffering an existential crisis! Help!

*Wilgy enters the room, walks up to MP and pats them on the back afew times before waddling out of the room*

Beware, touching a Sock during a mainframe breakdown can result in various unintended side effects, including PTSD, Post-Traumatic-Sock Disorder.

*a paper airplane with writing on it flies through the window*

Oh no... It has begun!! MM! Unfurl! Heeeeelp!!!

OMG

BROTHER?

Yes? Brother.

I can't believe it. I've been searching for 9000 years across all of the Sock multiverses.

You've made me cry tears of... whatever this color is. It's transformed my wool color!

EMBRACE ME BROTHER!!! With whatever sock appendages we may or may not have!!

Roxy wrote:The thread feels toxic.

I will be back a few minutes before poll ends as this game is no longer fun today.

*Bows* What can I do to make it more fun for you Roxy?