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by G-Man
Tue Aug 18, 2015 3:54 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
Replies: 6800
Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 0)

Golden wrote:Why did I let MP beat me.
Because you're a coward. ;)
by G-Man
Tue Aug 18, 2015 3:59 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
Replies: 6800
Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 0)

Hey aapje! Long time, no see. How's life?
by G-Man
Tue Aug 18, 2015 4:02 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
Replies: 6800
Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 0)

Bullzeye wrote:
aapje wrote:Yay game :)
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Votes are not changeable in this poll. Just sayin'. :mafia:
So why position 5?
Actually I might vote position 5... It's where most roles seem to have the coolest options, so it could make for an interesting start.
Interesting thought. The orderly, accounting nerd in me sees Position 1 as the logical place to start. I'll have to peruse the roles and their positions a bit more before I make my choice.
by G-Man
Tue Aug 18, 2015 9:49 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
Replies: 6800
Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 0)

Only five pages? I'm disappointed in you guys. I expected this thread to be up to seven pages at least. I expect the page count to be at least 15 by the time I check in over breakfast tomorrow. :pout:

Now to check out those role/position breakdowns...
by G-Man
Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:19 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
Replies: 6800
Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 0)

thellama73 wrote:
G-Man wrote:Only five pages? I'm disappointed in you guys. I expected this thread to be up to seven pages at least. I expect the page count to be at least 15 by the time I check in over breakfast tomorrow. :pout:

Now to check out those role/position breakdowns...
What, no insane posting gimmick that makes it impossible to understand you? You must be bad...
Read much? You must be bad.
by G-Man
Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:38 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
Replies: 6800
Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 0)

I can see why people are avoiding positions 2 and 4. Position 2 is rife with chaos and position 4 seems rife with chaos and carnage. Maybe I need to go back and re-read them one more time but position 3 didn't stand out to me as a bad option. Is it just that positions 1 and 5 seem more pro-civ that position 3 is getting passed over?
by G-Man
Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:15 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
Replies: 6800
Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 0)

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Day O is followed by Day P.
If that's the case, then I suggest everyone be nice to MP07 on Day P. :P
by G-Man
Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:49 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
Replies: 6800
Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 0)

Okay, I agree with whoever brought up the poison issue. Position 4 will not be getting my vote.

As nice as those position lists aapje made are, it'll be more helpful for me to see all the roles and position powers all at once. You know you're playing a game for the ages when you need to make a spreadsheet just to figure out which Day 0 poll option to select! :beer:
by G-Man
Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:46 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
Replies: 6800
Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 0)

Bullzeye wrote:
Boomslang wrote: The whole adverb thing is ridiculous. I don't see why it would be relevant for the theme (in terms of being a requirement for a given role). I also think generalizing that baddies use adverbs as a form of distancing or overexplaining is spurious at best. Also, MP clearly has a few sentences that don't use adverbs, so he's not even completely consistent.
As someone else already said, it doesn't work anyway if you don't take into account individual differences in language use. The past seven years in education have conditioned me to use loads of adverbs just to pad out my writing and get closer to expected word counts. Doesn't mean I'm secretly evil in real life and planning to kill off my lecturers or something...
unfurl wrote:What is all this averb talk, am I taking a grammar class?, I did not know thats what I signep up :p is over my head
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Adverbs are evil. Look up the phrase adverb in the dictionary and you will find it says "A sure sign of malice". Maybe. Probably not.
I too was taught to use many adverbs to create, flowery, descriptive prose. That was middle and high school though. The first conference with my English Comp professor (who was also the Dean of Faculty and went on to become president of the college) was eye-opening. He gave me the best advice on writing I ever received: "Forget everything your high school English teachers taught you about writing."


As Messrs. Strunk, White, and King advise...
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by G-Man
Wed Aug 19, 2015 11:19 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
Replies: 6800
Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 0)

I'll vote during my lunch break after I build that position spreadsheet.
by G-Man
Wed Aug 19, 2015 11:31 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
Replies: 6800
Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 0)

Turnip Head wrote:I voted for Position 1 because if you ain't first you're last.
What color is that supposed to be- pontificating purple?
by G-Man
Wed Aug 19, 2015 12:59 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
Replies: 6800
Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 0)

Alright, so I went through each role's positions and did my best to determine which position for each role was the most beneficial to the civvies. Here's what I came up with:

Position 1 = 7
Position 2 = 15
Position 3 = 9
Position 4 = 6
Position 5 = 10

Even though there's some scary stuff in Position 2, it looks to me like that bad stuff is countered by some strong potential civvie stuff. The numbers don't equal the number of roles because some roles are equally bad or good across all their positions.

Thoughts?
by G-Man
Wed Aug 19, 2015 1:06 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
Replies: 6800
Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 0)

Dom wrote:
G-Man wrote:Alright, so I went through each role's positions and did my best to determine which position for each role was the most beneficial to the civvies. Here's what I came up with:

Position 1 = 7
Position 2 = 15
Position 3 = 9
Position 4 = 6
Position 5 = 10

Even though there's some scary stuff in Position 2, it looks to me like that bad stuff is countered by some strong potential civvie stuff. The numbers don't equal the number of roles because some roles are equally bad or good across all their positions.

Thoughts?
Honestly, I don't think it matters all that much-- we're gonna hit them all eventually. It'll matter more later in the game, I think.
True, but it'd be nice to start out on a more civvie-friendly position if at all possible.

Neither Position 2 or 4 can win given the votes remaining to be cast. Position 3 can only tie Position 1. Who knows what that could bring. In light of all this, I shall vote for Position 5.
by G-Man
Wed Aug 19, 2015 1:07 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
Replies: 6800
Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 0)

DharmaHelper wrote:Why must you destroy my happiness.
You can just choose to ignore reality. Ignorance is bliss.
by G-Man
Wed Aug 19, 2015 1:09 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
Replies: 6800
Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 0)

Ricochet wrote:
G-Man wrote:Alright, so I went through each role's positions and did my best to determine which position for each role was the most beneficial to the civvies. Here's what I came up with:

Position 1 = 7
Position 2 = 15
Position 3 = 9
Position 4 = 6
Position 5 = 10

Even though there's some scary stuff in Position 2, it looks to me like that bad stuff is countered by some strong potential civvie stuff. The numbers don't equal the number of roles because some roles are equally bad or good across all their positions.

Thoughts?
Those numbers are so different from my beneficial numbers, I don't even
Our numbers are different because our approaches were different. You tried to evaluate the whole position, whereas I looked at individual players first to determine the most pro-civ position. Either way, both of our lists are subjective opinions.
by G-Man
Wed Aug 19, 2015 1:23 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
Replies: 6800
Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 0)

Ricochet wrote:
G-Man wrote:Our numbers are different because our approaches were different. You tried to evaluate the whole position, whereas I looked at individual players first to determine the most pro-civ position. Either way, both of our lists are subjective opinions.
Ah, I see. But if you look at players for their pro-civ positions and those players will happen to get recruited to the baddie teams, those positions won't be so pro-civ anymore.
This is true. My analysis is only worthwhile today. Your's will probably be a better guide after the recruiting starts. That being said, your analysis is limited as well. Some of the powers in your Negative Effects column could be powerful tools in the hands of civ-recruited players. Vote manipulation, phase ending, and blocks may seem negative but they are only truly negative if they were in the hands of a baddie. In the hands of a civvie, Position 3 or 4 could actually be the most potent for civs if they can get their hands on the negative powers. It's all relative to how the recruitment turns out.
by G-Man
Wed Aug 19, 2015 2:21 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
Replies: 6800
Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 0)

Tranq wrote:I'm ok with Position 1.

But i'm voting Position 3. Having played the previous Recruitment games, i'd rather not vote for the option that ends up winning a Day 0 poll :p
Okay, so now either Position 1 will win outright or there will be a tie between Positions 1 and 5.
by G-Man
Wed Aug 19, 2015 4:24 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
Replies: 6800
Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 0)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I suppose if I want to be recruited, I am going to have to show the leaders what skills I have to offer for their team. Some include:

I can juggle.

I am known for playing table tennis well enough to frustrate my nemeses.

I am a professional at making fun of the music of Creed
Making fun of Creed does not impress me. It was a regular pastime junior year in college. One of our suitemates was a huge Creed fan and we made fun of him dearly for it. That also led us to make fun of his love of Bruce Springsteen too, even though Springsteen doesn't suck.

Golden wrote: I do, however, agree with JJ that begging for a recruit is not at all desperate, obscene or try-hard, so I present for you my own unique skills.

Roger Rabbit
Death and Taxes
Biblical

Unfortunately, I have no link to me juggling, but it wouldn't convince anyone.
Biotch please, you know you had a LOT of help from my ASS in Biblical. Don't try to pass that one off as a solo achievement. :eye:

Turnip Head wrote:We should probably lynch Golden first, just to be safe.
Now THIS I can get behind! :nicenod:


Sadly, most of my mafia credentials here on The Syndicate include ass jokes, silly posting gimmicks, and a dirty bet with MP07. I did win a singing contest once though!
by G-Man
Wed Aug 19, 2015 4:34 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
Replies: 6800
Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 0)

Golden wrote:G-Man, I had a lot of help from you in Death & Taxes too. :p No mafia win is the product of a single individual, but those were games where I played well. Guess Who, not so much.

linki @bullz - G-man talked out of his ass a lot that game.
The lesson here is that even when Golden isn't playing well at all, he is still capable of masterfully fleecing everyone when he is a baddie (Guess Who).

Let's lynch this mofo.
by G-Man
Thu Aug 20, 2015 11:04 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
Replies: 6800
Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 1)

Catching up in fits and starts...
Ricochet wrote:Ok, so today's package is

Lynch Pardon (civ leader)
Redirect Night powers (civ leader)
Immune to NK/Lynch (mafia leader)
Power Steal (mafia leader)
Insanifier
Seduction
Mind Control
Role Nullifier
Tracker
Heal
Randomly blows votes
Cremates a body (does this actually require a body, i.e. a dead player to cremate, possibly making him unrezzable q.m.)
Immune to all Kills
Untargetable
Can’t die as long as [lover] is alive
End day period early
Seemer
Message to the thread through host
Switches two targets
Dead role check
Boon
Picks Player
Picks 3 minus or plus votes
Kill a Sorcerer
Switch three roles powers
Randomize three players, block one, protect one, kill one
Finds out how many of each clan are recruited or unrecruited, and the status of Clan Leaders
Magnetically repel night powers to random targets
Knowing who a Position 1 role targeted
Message to the thread
Protects all Guardians (indy leader)

But I also have half past three am on my clock, so see you tomorrow.

Discuss lynching llama until then, please.
I purpled the roles I am unclear on. Not sure what seduction is. I've seen blocking roles that use their block by being alluring to their target. Does that fit or have things changed since I've been away?

Role Nullifier could be dangerous if it nullifies a player's role/position powers for the whole game. That's how I read it, because it would just be a fancy way of saying 'blocker' if it's not permanent. A kinder, gentler interpretation could mean that the Warden gets to block a specific role instead of a player (even more of a shot in the dark).

The Pyromancer sounds like it destroys the body, making that dead player unrezzable and uncheckable.

I have no idea what a Boon is aside from the main character who dies first on Lost. Can someone explain that one?



Golden wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
birdwithteeth11 wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
birdwithteeth11 wrote:
thellama73 wrote:Well, I know who I'm voting for. Anyone want to talk about anything else while we wait?
How about if we should lynch you for already deciding who you're voting for with little explanation?

Also, I completely forgot who you said you're voting for so yeah there's that...
Would you like an explanation? I would be happy to provide one.

linki Golden: I don't think the lynch save should be used on the person I will be voting for, because I think that person is bad.
Well Golden's post reminded me it was Bubbles. So yeah, either an explanation or a link back to your reason why would suffice for now.
I asked Bubbles if she was bad, and she said she was. Why would she lie about that?
You remind me of Absalom.

I did not read bubbles post as a statement of fact, but as a sarcastic response to your question, and won't be voting that way myself. I did not mind her reaction. I think it spoke to neutrality, and I don't think she would have been a likely choice for a recruit after that point.
Ha! I was thinking the same thing. Kind of like the Uzziah case all over again.



S~V~S wrote:
Golden wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
TinyBubbles wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
TinyBubbles wrote:POST. hi everyone :)
POST. Hi Tinybubbles. Did you finally get a mafia role this time around?
hi MM :) i'm afraid not. i think i'm going for a mafia record here lol
She also said this ^^

So you are preferring to take her at her word for one post but not another?
In fact, she said that first.

SVS - help me with a bit of theorycrafting. (For anyone who asks, I asked SVS specifically because I know her brain works a lot differently to mine and so I think her perspective can be very helpful to me, but I'm interested in anyones view). If you were a baddie leader, what would your preferred approach be on day one - try and recruit someone you know is a major FEB and could be a big asset to the team, or try and recruit someone no-one would suspect?
That's a hard question.

I would either recruit someone who I would have fun with, OR i would recruit someone who has what i lack (which was my strategy when i used to hire my own assistants irl). Someone who was a better strategist (I am a good tactician, but a poor strategist) and perhaps better at the technical game, sussing out roles, etc. which is something I am the suck at. I have done both in the past. I don't think it matters if they are a FEB or not, tbh. That would not come into my considerations.

Does that answer your question?

Linki, ending someones game for something so trivial is ill done, imo. Especially when based on a nonsensical premise. "She said so". Well, she also said "not so". Make up your mind.
I think SVS's take on recruiting makes the most sense to me. Pick people you know or think you'll work well with but don't be afraid to take a few chances. Otherwise it could just become a popularity contest and newer people may be discouraged by getting picked last. Then again, the people who are known to be major FEB's can be something of a liability to a recruiter because a reputation for being an awesome baddie may get someone lynched or NK'd early. Same goes for super-civvies. There's lot of reverse psychology at play though, because what I just said would suggest it's best to go for those middle-ground players first while at the same time putting a target on their backs, making the theoretically less attractive players more attractive again. But that just starts us spinning round and round. Recruiters probably have their 'power rankings' (to borrow a sports term) while also not wanting to seem too obvious. I'd be way to susceptible to overthinking recruitment decisions, so I'm glad I am not one of the recruiters.



S~V~S wrote:I tend to judge people as individuals not as reputations. My best game of all time was Rabbits SOT, I was a ... civvie. We had a large civ BTS group, and we worked pretty well together. That team has been my gold standard of what a team should be. Not so much for the individuals (although they all were awesome and people in the Mafia community that I <3 maybe a bit more than most) but for the way we worked together. I would want cohesion more than anything, really. Team players, no Prima Donnas.

What was your theory?
Too bad reputations get you lynched and NK'd early. Especially if you've had a good run lately and showed some serious skill/luck on one or both sides of the game.
by G-Man
Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:42 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
Replies: 6800
Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 1)

Epignosis wrote:I'm going to bed myself. I want people to read Golden's answers a few times over. I think he's a naughty recruiter.
Interesting theory. I'm not opposed to lynching anyone except me today but I'll see how Golden the Coward ;) handles the rest of Day 1.


Metalmarsh89 wrote:Oh and I also had beer with the pizza. :beer:
Mmm. Beer. I cannot tell you how long it's been since my last one. Probably a year ago.


MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm less interested in the same old Day 1 debates surrounding the same old super talkative and aggressive players such as Epi, Golden, and Llama.

Right now, I'm much more interested in these folks:

DFaraday 3
DisgruntledPorcupine 3
Typhoony 3
Bass_the_Clever 2
Spacedaisy 2
Devin the Omniscient 1
DrWilgy 1
Sorsha 1

Hiding to avoid attention? :eye:

Llama, won't you join me in a crusade to interrogate low posters to at least get them talking? Possibly lynched? :llama:
Hmm. A change of play style? Interesting. I support your line of thought, however.
by G-Man
Thu Aug 20, 2015 10:09 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
Replies: 6800
Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 1)

Printing checks here at the office at 10:00 pm. :fist:

I see I have a lot of catching up to do. I think I was up to page 14. Yikes. Looks like I'll be playing from behind for a while. Forgive me for not responding to every page (because that went over so well for me before). At the very most, I'll pick out 2 or 3 posts per page, if there's anything to touch on. Otherwise, I'll comment on the macro stuff. I knew it was going to be tough to keep up in this game once we got into full swing but I'll do my best to not get a full day behind.
by G-Man
Thu Aug 20, 2015 10:17 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
Replies: 6800
Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 1)

Turnip Head wrote:
G-Man wrote:Printing checks here at the office at 10:00 pm. :fist:
Can you print one for me please
Sure, just give me your full name, address, social security number....


Epignosis wrote:I'm a lay preacher. For realz.
So you preach best after you get laid? :P
by G-Man
Fri Aug 21, 2015 12:59 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
Replies: 6800
Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 1)

Oh hi there. I'm still playing, I swear. I'm also caught up on reading. Can I get a slow clap?

So here are my general thoughts because I didn't feel the need to comment on every little thing:

-The whole Epigknowitall vs. Goldenothavingfun didn't phase me at all at first because I've noticed that two people usually get into some kind of exhaustive debate the first day or two around here. That being said, I hope both of you stick around and find more useful and instructive things to fight about. And if you say you're going to drop it an ignore the other, for God's sake, follow through on that. Otherwise the back-and-forth reaches the point of
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-Seeing the Llama drama with Ricochet gave me mixed feelings. Ditto for MP07 socking it to Ricochet a little.

-I thought Unfurl was talking good sense about just being different. I like to openly challenge playing conventions from time to time and I see nothing wrong with people who choose to operate just outside of them.

-Timmer was speaking some good truth on general topics though I can't say I follow him when he touched on specific players.

-Maybe the sign-up poll wasn't a means for picking experienced recruiters but perhaps a way for the hosts to force recruitment from either groups of players? Like maybe each recruiter will be allowed to try to recruit one experienced player and a newbie to the recruitment aspect. Just a thought.

-I'm looking the low-voter way but I am also working on a prototype system for ranking how I feel about people. You earn or lose points based on how I feel about things that you post. It's a very crude system right now but I'm hoping to use it as a way to improve my ability to "read" people. For today, I'll look to vote for someone hasn't made much of an impression on me at all, coupled with the number and quality of posts. There are a lot of low-posters on that list so far.

-Changeable votes? Bah! My spreadsheet does not approve. :suspish:
by G-Man
Fri Aug 21, 2015 1:03 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
Replies: 6800
Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 1)

Devin the Omniscient wrote:
Spacedaisy wrote:Two things:

1. I'm here but I have to catch up

2. I'm having trouble with my iPad the last couple days, so bear with me trying to post.

Off to catch up.
Anyone else think that MP should give SD a better title now that they're hitched? Henchman just doesn't cut it in my book anymore ;)
Too true! He may be The Don, but she's now The Boss. :nicenod:
by G-Man
Fri Aug 21, 2015 1:22 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
Replies: 6800
Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 1)

Spacedaisy wrote:
G-Man wrote: -Timmer was speaking some good truth on general topics though I can't say I follow him when he touched on specific players.
Which general topics are you referring to?

Also regarding the llama/Rico/MP stuff, are you saying you agree with Rico, and distrust the other two?

That post is nearly as unclear as your magic eight ball posts.
No clue. I'd have to go back and look at his posts but I'm at work and it's time to do some billing.

I may feel drawn more to Rico just because I think we're cut from a similar cloth. Llama plays a mustache-twirling shifty sort of game and MP peed in my face once.

Sorry? :shrug:
by G-Man
Fri Aug 21, 2015 1:33 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
Replies: 6800
Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 1)

Spacedaisy wrote:
G-Man wrote:
Spacedaisy wrote:
G-Man wrote: -Timmer was speaking some good truth on general topics though I can't say I follow him when he touched on specific players.
Which general topics are you referring to?

Also regarding the llama/Rico/MP stuff, are you saying you agree with Rico, and distrust the other two?

That post is nearly as unclear as your magic eight ball posts.
No clue. I'd have to go back and look at his posts but I'm at work and it's time to do some billing.

I may feel drawn more to Rico just because I think we're cut from a similar cloth. Llama plays a mustache-twirling shifty sort of game and MP peed in my face once.

Sorry? :shrug:
You don't have to be sorry, I just look forward to you clarifying some more when you are able. Otherwise it felt like a post with a lost pseudo-opinions, with it offering any real, direct opinions. I would like to hear what your opinions actually are though.
I'll do my best. I literally have a sticky note here at my desk that I wrote notes on as I caught up at a brisk pace. On it it says "Timmer: Good points in general but not 4 people direct."
by G-Man
Fri Aug 21, 2015 1:49 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
Replies: 6800
Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 1)

aapje wrote:Change of plan: the next person to change their vote will get mine for fucking with my spreadsheet.
:beer:
by G-Man
Fri Aug 21, 2015 5:08 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
Replies: 6800
Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 1)

Time for me to disappear into RL for the weekend, so I have to vote now.

Of the 16 players who failed to register a positive or negative score on my newfangled setup, I took the 8 who made the fewest posts. From there, I removed the three female players because I am a gentleman. Of those five remaining players, I eliminated the one who hasn't posted yet during Day 1 because I am fair and want all players to have a chance to post during the day before I vote unless I have good reason to do otherwise. Of these final four, I voted for the player who had the least compelling content in their posts.

Voted Tranq.
by G-Man
Fri Aug 21, 2015 5:19 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
Replies: 6800
Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 1)

DharmaHelper wrote:
G-Man wrote:Time for me to disappear into RL for the weekend, so I have to vote now.

Of the 16 players who failed to register a positive or negative score on my newfangled setup, I took the 8 who made the fewest posts. From there, I removed the three female players because I am a gentleman. Of those five remaining players, I eliminated the one who hasn't posted yet during Day 1 because I am fair and want all players to have a chance to post during the day before I vote unless I have good reason to do otherwise. Of these final four, I voted for the player who had the least compelling content in their posts.

Voted Tranq.
So you put everyone into a randomizer and came up with a convoluted way to explain your vote.
Nope. Here are the 16 who failed to register:

bea
Boomslang
Canucklehead
Devin the Omniscient
DFaraday
Dom
DrWilgy
LoRab
nutella
reywaS
Roxy
Spacedaisy
TinyBubbles
Tranq
Turnip Head
Typhoony


The lowest 8 posters at that time were:

Boomslang
DFaraday
DrWilgy
LoRab
nutella
TinyBubbles
Tranq
Typhoony


Then I removed the three ladies:

Boomslang
DFaraday
DrWilgy
Tranq
Typhoony


Then I removed the one who hasn't given us anything to chew on yet Day 1:

Boomslang
DrWilgy
Tranq
Typhoony


And then I looked at their posts. Any other questions? If so, too bad. You probably won't see me for at least 19 hours. :)
by G-Man
Sat Aug 22, 2015 4:29 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
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Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Night 1)

Okay, my truncated, general responses to things happening since i voted:

-BWT needs to read a little more thoroughly. The list of 8 I posted were the 8 players with the fewest posts out of the players who I had no read on whatsoever, not necessarily the actual the bottom 8. I'm surprised only a few people took notice of his error.

-I was intrigued by how disparate the reasons were for voting BWT. It was far from a cohesive lynch train. I was also intrigued by how some thought his mistake on the 8 was shifty rather than lazy.

-I had notes worked up on the roles Rico may have missed but you guys covered that well already. :beer:


Now to look at the positions so I can vote for that...
by G-Man
Sat Aug 22, 2015 4:35 pm
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Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Night 1)

Here's what Rico had to say, nicely quantified:
Ricochet wrote:OK, here's my silly breakdown of the positions

Abilities with positive effects on a player or the field
Abilities that only serve the carrier's interest or gain
Abilities with negative effects on a player or the field
Abilities with ambivalent effects, that will probably depend on the alignment of the carrier

I am aware this is far from perfect, because recruitement might ultimately influence itself the positive or negative charge of most abilities. A protection can be generally positive, but switch to serving the player's or team's interest (if, for instance, the player gets recruited in a baddie camp). Some abilities like the kills or the ones that sound nasty have been unconditionally slotted into negative, despite their own nuances depending on alignment (like civ kills). The "ambivalent" section is for abilities I couldn't grasp or couldn't project into any of the three main slots (Stuff like "Picks Player". Ok, what am I supposed to believe will happen to the picked player or how can I tell if the pick is for goood or bad?)

So, to the best of my understanding and probably with a lot of mistakes in counting/assessing them:
Position 1 10 10 10 3
Position 2 7 12 10 3
Position 3 5 11 14 3 (+1 Unknown)
Position 4 4 14 11 3 (+1 Unknown)
Position 5 7 13 10 3
(wow, those are some weak ass color contrasts, but I'm not redoing the entire scheme code)

So overall positions 3 and 4 seems the most unpleasant, with 3 potentially creating the most amount of nasty. But of course, I haven't nuanced this breakdown at all, as in weighing which abilities are more pos/neg than others; so for instance, this doesn't really make the other positions look any better, considering they have stuff like Cremation, Mind Control, Hunger, Parasite, Immolation etc.

My conclusion is that, indeed, there is no safe choosing in this matter and we'll have to go through most of these positions anyway. It's clear that the Hosts have made this pretty balanced and it's more like a crazy mix, as if we jump from one entire game setup to another each Day (wait, this isn't Inception... :confused:), each with its virtues and nightmares, so we'll just have to navigate and suffer through them. However, my impulse right now is not to get rid of the worst-looking, because I think the amount of nasty effects and chaos would be different on D1 (with most of us unrecruited yet/unaligned) rather than later, when we have a better chance to look for patterns and such.

But this is overanalyzing, so tl;dr version is: right I feel like going for 1 or 2, out of which I think I prefer 1, even though it has cremation and mind control, because I'm not in the mood for Hunger and shit like that from Day freaking 1 already.

Here's what I had to say, with a vague and barely explained methodology:
G-Man wrote:Alright, so I went through each role's positions and did my best to determine which position for each role was the most beneficial to the civvies. Here's what I came up with:

Position 1 = 7
Position 2 = 15
Position 3 = 9
Position 4 = 6
Position 5 = 10

Even though there's some scary stuff in Position 2, it looks to me like that bad stuff is countered by some strong potential civvie stuff. The numbers don't equal the number of roles because some roles are equally bad or good across all their positions.

Thoughts?
I guess mine also comes from the standpoint of which roles cause the least harm to civvies. I'll have to go back and see if my initial calculations still stand.
by G-Man
Sat Aug 22, 2015 4:38 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
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Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Night 1)

oh and those assessments were before those two other powers were added. There's a wrinkle to consider. Back in a few.
by G-Man
Sat Aug 22, 2015 4:48 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
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Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Night 1)

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
G-Man wrote:oh and those assessments were before those two other powers were added. There's a wrinkle to consider. Back in a few.
Here's a new wrinkle for you. There were four new roles added.
Wrinkle unwrinkled: I made my list after the first two were added. So :P
by G-Man
Sat Aug 22, 2015 5:29 pm
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Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
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Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Night 1)

Boy, there's some frightful stuff in both 3 and 5. I initially said Position 2 looked very positive for civvies but that's only from the view of civvies landing those powers. This game is like the opposite of the Star Trek movies- here the odd-numbered choices are the way to go (though I seriously enjoyed ST3: The Search for Spock and ST5 could make for a great film if there wasn't so much TV-grade suck in it). Between Position 3 and 5, coin flip says 5.
by G-Man
Sat Aug 22, 2015 5:42 pm
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Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
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Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Night 1)

S~V~S wrote:I think 4 is the scariest.
I agree but the Windscout's Position 5 / Team Seemer ability is really going to suck for us they get recruited to a baddie team. It's going to be a bother regardless. I get the feeling our spreadsheets are going to be so wrong when the hosts reveal the player/role list at endgame.
by G-Man
Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:58 pm
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Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
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Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 2)

:sigh:

Playing from behind again. I see we have votes already. Going back to read what I've missed. TTFN.
by G-Man
Sun Aug 23, 2015 6:37 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
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Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 2)

My general thoughts:

It's a shame to lose Typh so soon. I hope he comes back for more games (especially when Secret Mafia 3 rolls around). I'm surprised how many people posted before anyone mentioned that Typhoony was one of the Sorcerer roles. Makes me wonder if some people aren't doing their homework after a night post. Seeing as Typh was of the Sorcerer clan, I hope he was the Windscout (death to all seemer powers!). It would be cool if he were none other than Azura or the Magnetarch as well.

Has anyone considered if all the shock and disbelief at Typh's early exit was the point in killing him? I mean, think like a baddie folks! I thought MP's list of people who wouldn't kill Typh Night 1 was garbage and should be ignored. He even came back later and admitted that that list uses flimsy logic. Well then why even post such a list in the first place? Had anyone but MP made such a list and gotten called out on it, MP probably would have been all Dog-Pee Factor 3 on it. He is, indeed, a master back-tracker.

And I see MP broke out the old bully pulpit too. Stay classy, Sockman! :sigh: I must say that I thought Llama's shade-lob at MP was justified. Then the eruption that ensued made MP v. Llama the new Epi v. Golden, only much more one-sided and ordeal, which quickly made me...
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Hey MP- what appeals to you about Position 4? You've voted for it twice now. A few of us are in agreement that it looks the scariest for the civvie cause.

I pondered following the Speaker of Serenity's request to vote for TH but then I remembered that we have no reason to trust the Speaker of Serenity.

JJJ subbing out perhaps? :( Won't miss your post volume if you do, but I will miss your personality.

I hate, hate, HATE changeable votes!

I honestly give Golden the Coward ;) some brownie points for his ploy against Epi. That's badass yo. I'm still not sure one way or the other on you though.
by G-Man
Sun Aug 23, 2015 6:49 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
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Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 2)

nutella wrote:Ah yes, Position 4 is the one with Poison. I thought we all agreed to delay that one as long as we can, since poison is cumulative. Why does MP want it to start so early? :|
Maybe he's a closet Poison fan?

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:shrug:

True story- Bret Michaels went to the same high school as my dad. My 2nd grade teacher also had him when he was in elementary school and she told us that he peed his pants on group picture day.

@SVS- Calling it rude implies there are unwritten rules to the game. It's not so much rude as it is nasty and cruel. As a battle-hardened veteran of the game, I doubt he thinks it's rude. It probably didn't even register with him.

@Rico- thanks. Good to know.
by G-Man
Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:06 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
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Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 2)

MovingPictures07 wrote:Seems people want me dead.

I want Position 4 because it benefits my role. Sorry it doesn't benefit a lot of your roles.

G-Man, I get it. You don't like my playstyle. I don't bully people on purpose, but think what you want. I feel bad enough as it is, I don't need to come in here and see people bashing my posts.

Go ahead and vote me off if you wish, all of you, since there's clearly momentum forming that way and I doubt it'll go away any time soon. I don't have the desire to defend myself for days on end again. Not sure what I can say at this point that I haven't already anyway.
I don't want you dead.

That's what I figured but it's nice to have it in words.

Bashing each others posts is a big part of the game, so... :shrug: Why are you so sensitive to others bashing yours when you are unashamed to rip into the posts of others?

:disappoint:
by G-Man
Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:33 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
Replies: 6800
Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 2)

You know what these recruitment games need? A theme song! I've been on a punk rock kick lately (real punk rock, none of this newfangled pop-punk nonsense) and when I heard this song driving to the grocery store, lyrics just started flowing. Hope you like it!

"I Wanna Be Recruited"



Pretty-pretty-pretty please someone pick me
I wanna be recruited
Joinin' a team sounds really good to me
I wanna be recruited

I might be very awesome, could be very skilled
Hurry hurry hurry before my role is killed
Just put me on your roster, you know I will be thrilled
Let's go oh oh oh oh


Pretty-pretty-pretty please someone pick me
I wanna be recruited
Joinin' a team sounds really good to me
I wanna be recruited

I promise to be loyal, could be very skilled
Hurry hurry hurry before my role is killed
Just put me on your roster, you know I will be thrilled
Let's go oh oh oh oh


Pretty-pretty-pretty please someone pick me
I wanna be recruited
Joinin' a team sounds really good to me
I wanna be recruited

I promise to be loyal, promise I won't flake
Hurry hurry hurry pick me for goodness sake
I really want to join you, my offer isn't fake
Let's go oh oh oh oh


Pretty-pretty-pretty please someone pick me
I wanna be recruited
Joinin' a team sounds really good to me
I wanna be recruited

I promise to be loyal, promise I won't flake
Hurry hurry hurry pick me for goodness sake
I really want to join you, my offer isn't fake
Let's go oh oh oh oh


Please please puh-please puh-please please puh-please- I wanna be recruited
Please please puh-please puh-please please puh-please- I wanna be recruited
Please please puh-please puh-please please puh-please- I wanna be recruited
Please please puh-please puh-please please puh-please- I wanna be recruited
by G-Man
Mon Aug 24, 2015 1:23 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
Replies: 6800
Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 2)

Golden wrote:Can someone please recruit G-Man? He deserves it.
Who says I haven't been recruited yet? I posted that in OT green on purpose. That was proposed as a legitimate theme song, not a personal plea for recruitment.

Roxy wrote:Also llama what happened to your Bubbles suspicion? Did it just magically disappear?

Same goes to all the Teeth voters - did your suspicion (strong enough to place a vote on him yesterday) just disappear over the night phase?
Maybe they think they don't have to speak to that issue since the day was ended before most of those votes were even cast? :ponder:


Thoughts:

I'm not interested in either Bass or MP right now. Maybe I'm still a little hung up on getting a read on people. I still have no read on 13 different players. I'll probably vote for one of them.

The game quieted down substantially over the weekend. While I liked less content sitting there when catching up, it does hamper progress on the game. It still feels like a lot of people just aren't participating.

Not sure what to make of Dr. Wilgy. It's cute and all but it could also be a distraction. He's one of my 13.

Yay for 3-J sticking around. :)
by G-Man
Mon Aug 24, 2015 1:45 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
Replies: 6800
Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 2)

reywaS wrote:Can we be called the G-13?
What makes you so sure you're sill on my list? You could be one of the three that I got a read on since Day 1.
by G-Man
Mon Aug 24, 2015 2:10 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
Replies: 6800
Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 2)

Bullzeye wrote:
G-Man wrote:
Golden wrote:Can someone please recruit G-Man? He deserves it.
Who says I haven't been recruited yet? I posted that in OT green on purpose. That was proposed as a legitimate theme song, not a personal plea for recruitment.

Roxy wrote:Also llama what happened to your Bubbles suspicion? Did it just magically disappear?

Same goes to all the Teeth voters - did your suspicion (strong enough to place a vote on him yesterday) just disappear over the night phase?
Maybe they think they don't have to speak to that issue since the day was ended before most of those votes were even cast? :ponder:


Thoughts:

I'm not interested in either Bass or MP right now. Maybe I'm still a little hung up on getting a read on people. I still have no read on 13 different players. I'll probably vote for one of them.

The game quieted down substantially over the weekend. While I liked less content sitting there when catching up, it does hamper progress on the game. It still feels like a lot of people just aren't participating.

Not sure what to make of Dr. Wilgy. It's cute and all but it could also be a distraction. He's one of my 13.

Yay for 3-J sticking around. :)
Was about to say 13 what and then make silly jokes but proper reading prevailed and I understand now. Who are your other 12?

As for quietening down on the weekend, I can't explain why everyone did but for me it was because I was writing 10,000 words in the hopes that my university will enjoy reading them enough to give me a Masters.
Actually, it looks like I need to lerntukaunt because my list is only 11 people total. I failed to mark Typhoony as dead on my player feel list. Spreadsheet neglect! :disappoint:

Bea
Boomslang
Canuck
Devin
Dom
Dr. Wilgy
Nutella
reywaS
Sorsha*
TinyBubbles
TurnipHead


*she was exempted from my list of 16 from Day 1 because she was traveling but I have no read on her still, so technically, there are only 10 holdovers and 1 new name in Sorsha.
by G-Man
Mon Aug 24, 2015 2:19 pm
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Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
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Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 2)

reywaS wrote:
G-Man wrote:
reywaS wrote:Can we be called the G-13?
What makes you so sure you're sill on my list? You could be one of the three that I got a read on since Day 1.
Am I?
Signs point to yes
by G-Man
Mon Aug 24, 2015 2:32 pm
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Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
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Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 2)

Roxy wrote:
G-Man wrote:
Golden wrote:Can someone please recruit G-Man? He deserves it.
Who says I haven't been recruited yet? I posted that in OT green on purpose. That was proposed as a legitimate theme song, not a personal plea for recruitment.

Roxy wrote:Also llama what happened to your Bubbles suspicion? Did it just magically disappear?

Same goes to all the Teeth voters - did your suspicion (strong enough to place a vote on him yesterday) just disappear over the night phase?
Maybe they think they don't have to speak to that issue since the day was ended before most of those votes were even cast? :ponder:


Thoughts:

I'm not interested in either Bass or MP right now. Maybe I'm still a little hung up on getting a read on people. I still have no read on 13 different players. I'll probably vote for one of them.

The game quieted down substantially over the weekend. While I liked less content sitting there when catching up, it does hamper progress on the game. It still feels like a lot of people just aren't participating.

Not sure what to make of Dr. Wilgy. It's cute and all but it could also be a distraction. He's one of my 13.

Yay for 3-J sticking around. :)
Right - so since the day ended early (even though they had no idea it was happening at the time of their votes) they hold no responsilbility for them?

Ofc I disagree with your assessment.
Heh. Maybe I should have put that in sarcastic orange for effect? They obviously have to answer for their votes even if they don't count. I was providing a philosophical line of BS that might be attempted. I was not suggesting they are exempt from speaking their votes. Even though their votes didn't count, they are still on record. :nicenod:
by G-Man
Mon Aug 24, 2015 4:10 pm
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Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 2)

I won't be back before the poll closes, so here goes:

VOTES TURNIP HEAD

He's on my list of players who I don't have a read on and lynching him could be a test of whether or not to ignore future messages from the Speaker of Serenity.
by G-Man
Mon Aug 24, 2015 10:12 pm
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Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
Replies: 6800
Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 2)

Didn't think I'd be back but I made it back. I see this was said about me:
S~V~S wrote:
Ricochet wrote:G-Man's vote for TH seems a bit weak sauce for me, especially given that it's relatively fixed for the day, since he might have return. I get the "he's on my no-read list from which I intended to vote someone" more than the "let's test out if Speaker is genuine or ignorable". I've mentioned that it's highly unlikely the Speaker got to check and inform on his check in the same first Night of the game. When do we really test out what a messenger suspects? If he's spot on about TH being, let's say, a recruited baddie (aka the purest form of baddie at this point), he passes the test and receive eternal cred, and if he's wrong about TH being anything, we discret him, after just one night, for the rest of the game? This is even more interesting coming from G-Man who was Messenger in his last game.

All of the votes so far for him have pretty weak reasonings. Bubbles said nothing whatosever on the matter. MM also acts like the Speaker was sent from Heavens. Also @linki: aapje just came in fact with way better reads for suspecting TH, nevertheless all those were not reasons any of TH's voters brought up so far for voting him.
This pretty much sums up how I feel about the TH votes. I find that remark he made to be brow raising, but not enough to merit a vote, gossip or not. TH is a strong player, and I am not ready to experiment on him just yet. I have not seen anything from my day one vote, Bullz, to alarm me so i doubt I will vote for him again today, although i plan to keep an eye on him. He plays a pretty seamless recruited game in my experience.

I think I will reread some of these peoples posts, but I am still really highly disturbed by Golden, tbh. It is like he's a pod person Golden, lol.

Linki @BWT, I did not vote for you, or particularly think you were bad Day One; why do you think I did?
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
G-Man wrote:I won't be back before the poll closes, so here goes:

VOTES TURNIP HEAD

He's on my list of players who I don't have a read on and lynching him could be a test of whether or not to ignore future messages from the Speaker of Serenity.
This is a valid example of someone flicking the booger of responsibility onto the Speaker of Serenity. G-Man, the TH vote is yours -- either own it or drop it. Moreover, this logic disregards the very real possibility that the Speaker is merely hunching on Turnip and doesn't actually know anything. If the call for his lynch turns out ill-advised, that would say nothing about the Speaker other than "he/she called for the lynch of the wrong person".

Unless you think that player might have privileged information and is allowed by the hosts to exploit it in such an obvious manner as this. I don't think that.
So, yeah. I cast a mostly meaningless and lazy vote. I don't give much credence to any gossip role ever until they turn out to be consistently right. Gossip roles should be taken with a grain of salt. Really, I voted for Turnip Head because a) he was on my list of people for whom I have no feel yet and b) it created a three-way tie. I had to vote and clean up for the day at the office so I could make it to a doctor's appointment after work. Playing from 30,000 feet like I presently am, I'm keeping up with the thread but really only noting the big things. Kudos to those of you who can hit the micro-analysis but I have to play the macro-game this time around. That leaves me to be intentionally blendy by posting just enough to show I care but still mostly resigning myself to being a spectator.

If you prefer, I'd happily move my vote to someone else, so long as that someone else is not Golden the Coward ;) because his ballsy play on getting Epi killed gets him a free pass from me this day. There are probably a few other people I don't want to see lynched and most of them aren't even in the cross-hairs here.
by G-Man
Mon Aug 24, 2015 10:36 pm
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Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
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Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 2)

MovingPictures07 wrote:
nutella wrote:The vote spread/close tallies are a little concerning considering how many roles have vote manip powers in this position... we really have no way of knowing the correct tally and with a few candidates being so close, any one of them could end up being lynched.
I agree, and I highly implore anyone casting off votes at this point to consider placing them on Bass.
Okay but know that my vote switch has very little to do with any suspicion of Bass and I am in no way "flicking the booger" on you either. I'll vote to spread the vote out a little for science and to help keep Golden around for at least one more day.

VOTE CHANGED TO BASS
by G-Man
Mon Aug 24, 2015 10:50 pm
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Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
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Views: 187050

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 2)

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:S~V~S, to elaborate, I suppose I just feel as though you're putting Golden up to an expectation that is unreasonable, considering he has been quite open about playing a neutral game, and that Epi was a serious threat to Golden's immediate livelihood. I think it's key to note how emotionally-charged Golden's play has been this game, due to being under constant defense for his well being, and from Epi for a while at that.
I feel his behavior in this game is contrary to his non-baddie meta as I know it.

Do you better understand it put like that?
I feel like Golden is playing similar to how he started out in HSK actually, sparring with Epignosis and all. He just took it... a little further this time. I've only seen Golden bad in one game, when he subbed back into Economics, and he played nothing like he is here. He was calm and collected and attracted no attention.
QFT

I still have nightmares of that game, between G-Man masquerading as The Joker and Golden the super secret most bad of all the baddies, lurking in the shadows. :scared:
What was wrong with my Joker posts? I loved making those. :confused:

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