The Syndicate

This shit be cray

Black Rock wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Sorsha wrote:I'm picking alternative. 90's alternative to be specific but some of today's are good too. It's a toss up between that and rock for me.
Do you like Muse's new album? I do.
Cause everything they do is awesome? I have actually watched them perform while fixing the piano. Who fucking performs while underneath a piano? Well, I'll tell you, Matthew Bellamy. Because.

What? How? Why?

I'd like to nominate Matt as our first lynch candidate. He's too busy with other games anyway so we'll be doing him a favour.

Matt I am going to make a point of tunneling you all game til you or I dead.

LoRab wrote:Dom beat me to it with Is that a piano.

Brain is a bit full so wrapping that brain around this game will take effort. But that isn't a bad thing.

Love seeing Willow as part of the story telling!!!

I assume the MacDougall stuff against Matt is from mafia-history? Is he always like this? Because bringing up stuff like that tends to be pingy to me (even if it's brought up as a joke) but if he's always like that, then that may be context.

I find looking for valid reasons to lynch someone tends to be pingy to me.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:
LoRab wrote:
MacDougall wrote:
LoRab wrote:Dom beat me to it with Is that a piano.

Brain is a bit full so wrapping that brain around this game will take effort. But that isn't a bad thing.

Love seeing Willow as part of the story telling!!!

I assume the MacDougall stuff against Matt is from mafia-history? Is he always like this? Because bringing up stuff like that tends to be pingy to me (even if it's brought up as a joke) but if he's always like that, then that may be context.
I find looking for valid reasons to lynch someone tends to be pingy to me.
Why would you find it odd for someone to look for valid reasons to lynch someone? Seems counter-productive to me.

I should have used the orange font.

Hoo boy I can't wait to vote for MattF.

I hope everyone is keen to vote MattF along with me. Floyd? Can you get your mates to help me railroad Matt on day 1?

S~V~S wrote:
Matt F wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
MacDougall wrote:I hope everyone is keen to vote MattF along with me. Floyd? Can you get your mates to help me railroad Matt on day 1?

Matt F wrote:Friends of Floyd - Please do not lynch me
So is this a joke carried from the other game, or are you two teammates, or what?
He keeps saying he's going to vote for me in this game and in Dune. Here is one of his posts in Dune:

MacDougall wrote:
sig wrote:As tricky as your question I would say.
Hang on MattF is playing.

Placeholder vote for MattF.
I think he's joking, so I'm having fun back with him. However, it's entirely possible he will tunnel me in both games until (as he states) one of us is dead. You'll have to ask him.

I WAS kinda asking both of you, so I did ask him~

And yeah, I was going back and forth a lot yesterday, I guess I must have thought all of those posts were in this thread, and I was like, "All right already, we get it, you don't trust each other, enough with the overkill", then it was a "hmm" thing. So fair enough.

Would you prefer me to vote for you?

S~V~S wrote:Are you threatening me for asking a question?

Yes

S~V~S wrote:I am not sure I would define that as sarcasm, but OK.

Do you plan on making sarcastic responses to serious questions for the remainder of the game?

Do you plan on feigning sincerity and building cases on joke posts made on day 0 for the remainder of the game? Rather opportunistic in my opinion.

And no I do not. Only until MattF gets lynched.

It is my modus operandi as a mafia player on this website to tunnel MattF in every game until one of us are dead. You are officially forewarned of my intention in every game we both play in.

MattF is the perfect day 1 lynch in every game he plays. As a townie he distracts from genuine scum hunting with tunneling, a lack of focus and volumes upon volumes of posts trying to get people to ignore their genuine scum hunting efforts and follow his uninspired scumdar ... and of course there is as good a chance that he's scum as anybody else. He's a policy lynch for me in every game he plays. I make no apologies for this.

Matt F wrote:This is after he proposed I quit playing Mafia for three months after he flips town in another game. He flipped scum.

Can someone else please point out to Matt that his case on me was a far fetched serial killer case based on his interpretation of night role actions and he actually had nothing to do with me getting lynched as scum so he stops claiming he did?

Also Matt that game is still currently running so talking about it in this thread is the second time you've broken site rules on that subject today.

Matt F wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Also Matt that game is still currently running so talking about it in this thread is the second time you've broken site rules on that subject today.
Spreading lies gets you nowhere. If you're not informed on whether or not I broke a rule, I suggest you PM the site administrator and I guarantee you he will tell you otherwise.

Also, you brought up your agenda, and this is based on one game you've played with me, so technically, you started discussing the game before I did.

Vaguely referencing your meta =/= discussing the exact outcomes of a game currently in progress.

LoRab wrote:
MacDougall wrote:
S~V~S wrote:I am not sure I would define that as sarcasm, but OK.

Do you plan on making sarcastic responses to serious questions for the remainder of the game?
Do you plan on feigning sincerity and building cases on joke posts made on day 0 for the remainder of the game? Rather opportunistic in my opinion.

And no I do not. Only until MattF gets lynched.
You have clearly never met SVS. I don't see her feigning sincerity at all here. And I've seen baddies caught day 1 due to joke posts. Baddie slips, actually I find, more often than not happen in less serious posts.

MacDougall wrote:It is my modus operandi as a mafia player on this website to tunnel MattF in every game until one of us are dead. You are officially forewarned of my intention in every game we both play in.
That's not very good strategy, and certainly isn't helpful in finding mafia.

MacDougall wrote:MattF is the perfect day 1 lynch in every game he plays. As a townie he distracts from genuine scum hunting with tunneling, a lack of focus and volumes upon volumes of posts trying to get people to ignore their genuine scum hunting efforts and follow his uninspired scumdar ... and of course there is as good a chance that he's scum as anybody else. He's a policy lynch for me in every game he plays. I make no apologies for this.
Oh, so now you're not joking?!

How many games have you played with him? And someone having a different strategy than yours in finding baddies doesn't mean that they are a distraction. Policy lynches don't really make sense strategically--just like random votes don't really make sense imho, or policy self votes. Find people you suspect and explain why you suspect them. It's what civies do.

I make no apologies for suspecting you.

Show me where a baddie was caught on day 1 due to a joke post please. I'd like a link to that thread.

I disagree you see because now you are inspired to build a case because of what I have done. It may be on me, but now we have a subject to talk about. Conversation to have. It's an enjoyable experience for all. The game has started in earnest and we have hit the ground running. No fuckery.

Well I am and I'm not.

Apologise for suspecting me? What do you suspect me of? You needn't apologise to me for anything my love.

LoRab wrote:The apology was simply replying to your not apologizing for policy voting Matt in every game.

I know that 2 baddies in LOST on The Piano were lynched for jokey posts (they were my teammates), but you can't exactly get to that. If you search chubbz on Lostpedia, I'm quite certain that you can find multiple games as examples. The first star wars game, I believe. And Harry Potter, I think, both come to mind.

And I suspect you of being bad, for the record.

Hmm Mr. LoRab your examples aren't exactly convincing. I can show you endless examples of scum players saying "the" in a thread. That doesn't mean we should lynch players who say "the".

You suspect me of being bad? What roles do you consider bad in this particular design of game?

Terribly sorry is it Mrs. Lorab?

LoRab wrote:
MacDougall wrote:
LoRab wrote:The apology was simply replying to your not apologizing for policy voting Matt in every game.

I know that 2 baddies in LOST on The Piano were lynched for jokey posts (they were my teammates), but you can't exactly get to that. If you search chubbz on Lostpedia, I'm quite certain that you can find multiple games as examples. The first star wars game, I believe. And Harry Potter, I think, both come to mind.

And I suspect you of being bad, for the record.
Hmm Mr. LoRab your examples aren't exactly convincing. I can show you endless examples of scum players saying "the" in a thread. That doesn't mean we should lynch players who say "the".

You suspect me of being bad? What roles do you consider bad in this particular design of game?
No, and I'm not suspecting you for making a jokey post--I'm suspecting you for the content of that post and your subsequent posts.

The roles not specifying which are bad and which are civ is irrelevant to the fact that the host has made it clear that players are bad are good. I think that the players who are on the 2 baddie teams are bad. And the darkness. And possibly the other indies (hard to know with indies). Or are you going to try to convince us that there aren't really baddies in this game because the roles don't specify them (even though we have been told multiple times that there are baddies).

Also, I'm female.

I am very sorry about that. How embarrassing for me.

Let me clarify my question for you.

I wouldn't try to convince you of that. I simply would not be aware of which roles were in fact bad. Aside from the obvious one. And in the interest of encouraging discussion I thought I would ask for your opinion.

linki: Twirly LoRab. I like that.

LoRab wrote:
MacDougall wrote:
LoRab wrote:
MacDougall wrote:
LoRab wrote:The apology was simply replying to your not apologizing for policy voting Matt in every game.

I know that 2 baddies in LOST on The Piano were lynched for jokey posts (they were my teammates), but you can't exactly get to that. If you search chubbz on Lostpedia, I'm quite certain that you can find multiple games as examples. The first star wars game, I believe. And Harry Potter, I think, both come to mind.

And I suspect you of being bad, for the record.
Hmm Mr. LoRab your examples aren't exactly convincing. I can show you endless examples of scum players saying "the" in a thread. That doesn't mean we should lynch players who say "the".

You suspect me of being bad? What roles do you consider bad in this particular design of game?
No, and I'm not suspecting you for making a jokey post--I'm suspecting you for the content of that post and your subsequent posts.

The roles not specifying which are bad and which are civ is irrelevant to the fact that the host has made it clear that players are bad are good. I think that the players who are on the 2 baddie teams are bad. And the darkness. And possibly the other indies (hard to know with indies). Or are you going to try to convince us that there aren't really baddies in this game because the roles don't specify them (even though we have been told multiple times that there are baddies).

Also, I'm female.
I am very sorry about that. How embarrassing for me.

Let me clarify my question for you.

I wouldn't try to convince you of that. I simply would not be aware of which roles were in fact bad. Aside from the obvious one. And in the interest of encouraging discussion I thought I would ask for your opinion.

linki: Twirly LoRab. I like that.
is my smiley for a reason.

And it depends on if the roles were designed with teams, or if LC randomized which roles/players were on which team. I don't think he's clarified that and I can see him doing either. Also, knowing the host, if he did design it with certain roles being civ/bad/indy, then it's probably, at least in part, the ones that are least likely to be in any of those allignments.

I'd rather focus on which players are acting suspiciously, and worry less about particular role (which is how I generally play the game regardless). I think figuring out which roles we think are bad and which players we think have which roles is a dangerous path.

I wholeheartedly agree with your sentiments. So you suspect me of being a role that is probably, at least in part, one of the ones that are least likely to be any of those alignments?

Interesting questions that poses to me.

:band:

Dom wrote:
MacDougall wrote:It is my modus operandi as a mafia player on this website to tunnel MattF in every game until one of us are dead. You are officially forewarned of my intention in every game we both play in.
....

Hello Dom! Pleasure to make your acquaintance.

Don't mind that post my friend. I was just being a little bit playful.

It was and it was not.

Epignosis and MattF in this game. This will be a hoot.

Epignosis wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Epignosis and MattF in this game. This will be a hoot.
Listen to the song I posted. Tell me what you think.

Dat bass

Songwriting/pop sensibilities = -10/10

Musicianship and wankery = 10/10

Epignosis wrote:That's prog.

Heh I know

I am on holiday now so feel free to policy lynch me for wanting a policy lynch.

I have a huge scum read on MacDougall.

Floyd you aren't a noob anymore so I will be voting you for looking for an easy place to put your questionable vote.

He ain't in the poll either. What the heck without pants on.

TheFloyd73 wrote:Matt F, I'm perplexed by your vote for yourself and the statements you're making in both threads.

Mac, your confusion makes me wonder how much of the thread you have read.

Floyd, you referencing posts in both threads makes me wonder how much of the thread you have read.

TheFloyd73 wrote:
MacDougall wrote:
TheFloyd73 wrote:Matt F, I'm perplexed by your vote for yourself and the statements you're making in both threads.

Mac, your confusion makes me wonder how much of the thread you have read.
Floyd, you referencing posts in both threads makes me wonder how much of the thread you have read.
Fine, go ahead, vote for me.

Oh, wait.

Okay I will ensure you are lynched on day 2 for this post alone.

Why did banana and Luke both rush to comment on my Floyd post? I find that really strange.

Nope. Something really weird about it.

Golden wrote:
Matt F wrote:In case anyone is interested (without having to go check the polls thread), voters of Progressive include:

Metalmarsh, Bullzeye, Floyd, SVS, Epig, BWT

If one baddie was told this would remove them from the lynch poll, I'm willing to bet he told his team. Unless LC barred such action?

Do we suppose the civ, Mafia, and indy were told that Long Con would tell the town that "one civ, Mafia, and Indy knew at the outset?" or did our host keep that info to himself when letting these players know?

You'd have to be daft to have your whole team pile on, though, right?

Plus, in the case of at least some of these people (Epi, Marmot, I'm pretty sure SVS), I know prog is also the truthful answer.

I agree here. Matt pointing this out without referencing the glaringly obvious downside to the point feels like a scum who experienced this whole conversation in btsc trying to utilise the fact to put undue suspicion on a slew of townies in one fell swoop.

Matt F wrote:I think MacD really is going to tunnel me all game.

That's a nice attempt to devalue my opinion without referencing it.

Matt F wrote:
MacDougall wrote:
Matt F wrote:I think MacD really is going to tunnel me all game.
That's a nice attempt to devalue my opinion without referencing it.
Alright, let's reference your opinion...

MacDougall wrote:I agree here. Matt pointing this out without referencing the glaringly obvious downside to the point feels like a scum who experienced this whole conversation in btsc trying to utilise the fact to put undue suspicion on a slew of townies in one fell swoop.
I'm not aware of the other players' taste in music, so I didn't account for that when posing my question. Just trying to contribute for leads. You still trying to kill townies via policy lynch?

The glaringly obvious isn't taste it's that while the scum may have shared it to then go and pile on would be rank idiocy.

Agreed

Epi can you please tunnel me and rile me up

a2thezebra wrote:
BUGLABUSH wrote:I voted for a2thezebra because he bad
I admire you for not even attempting to disguise your OMGUS vote, but I must inform you that your town facade looks worse for it.

See this is how scum react to day 1 votes.

Matt F wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Being off the poll Day 1 is hardly a prize worth exposing your team over.

Also, please note the wording:

Long Con wrote:Day 1 has begun. You will be getting a PM about your new location (if you moved) within the next hour or so.

The poll will come up first. Those that voted for Prog will not be on the poll. One Civvie, one baddie, and one Indy role were told at the outset of the poll that this was a possible outcome of the Day 0 poll.
This means there were other possible outcomes.

Don't wrack your brain over this. I don't think it will get you any place.
True; you, Golden, and MacD are right that the entire team probably didn't jump on it. That is to say if they were even told, maybe LC asked the mafia with info to withhold from his teamies.

However, say two or three other players have already jumped on the Progressive vote, and you as a bad guy think "There are others on this poll now, so I won't be singled out if I vote this way." If there was a Mafia with info, I'd put him/her in the later votes. That would mean you, SVS, and BWT. But I think MM or someone has already accounted that you all are progressive folk, anyway, so there's that.

I don't know why you're asking us not to go over this info. It's only Day 1, and as nutella pointed out, Mac and me doing our useless dance is pretty much the only other thing to talk about, and I'd much rather talk about this tbh.

Hoo boy. Matt bout to Matt. Least I have a town read on him now.

HamburgerBoy wrote:So the guy's name is MetalMarsh but he just happened to vote prog here? Not buying it.

MattF just dredging this post up to feed your madness.

a2thezebra wrote:Well that's something at least. Thoughts on BUGLA besides me and Mac, anyone?

I was actually insinuating that your reaction was the scummy one but your complete obliviousness to that totally flipped my ping hahaha.

LoRab wrote:
Sorsha wrote:Is there a copy of the poll? One baddie was told of the poll "prize" so I'd imagine they could share that with their team?

Since Mac posted the same Matt stuff in this game as in dune I'll just repeat what I said there too:
I'm still digesting the Matt f/ Mac thing. I was a civvie tunneled by Matt last game so it's tempting to vote him but I'd definitely be waiting to see if something else comes up before I place my vote. I'd rather go with a legit suspicion but those don't always come out on day one.
Can you clarify? Matt had tunnel vision in the last game (which game?)? Was he a baddie in that game? Was he right or wrong about the player he was set on suspecting?

And how does that relate to his behavior in this game? Or are you punishing him for an earlier game?

I get if Mac (can I call you Mac?) is set on policy voting for Matt always (although I suspect him for that and don't agree with the concept of policy votes), but I really, really don't understand why you'd follow along with that. Please explain?

Oh and yes. You can.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Sorsha wrote:Are votes changeable?
Votes are changeable in this poll.

Lorab, I just want to observe MacDougall.

Do you want a live video link?

Okay I will explain myself so you all don't get shitty at me single quoting.

I have seen adequate play to justify a look at the game so far with fresh eyes.

So far I have some inklings

1. Matt is town
2. One of SVS or LoRab is scum but not both
3. Zebra is town
4. Sorsha is town
5. Metalmarsh is raising me brows a bit

To be continued

LoRab wrote:I think I get where you are coming from. So thank you for clarifying. Makes more sense. I'm still having trouble with Mac.

Can you please do me a kindness?

I would like for you to try and put into a conversation starter your ping on me so we can hash this out.

I would also like you to do a quick scan of SVS and a brief summary of your feelings there.

That would be lovely.

Bullzeye wrote:Didn't mean to press submit just yet. I have several favourite genres of music and felt that rather than pick one I'd just pick something different. I don't see why it should have to mean something.

This is unusual. Can anybody else claim that they did anything other than select their fave?

a2thezebra wrote:
MacDougall wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:Well that's something at least. Thoughts on BUGLA besides me and Mac, anyone?
I was actually insinuating that your reaction was the scummy one but your complete obliviousness to that totally flipped my ping hahaha.
Wow.

It is okay haha your total lack of consideration that it could have been possible makes you look great.

What kind of wow am I looking at here?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
LoRab wrote:
Matt F wrote:Sorry Zebra, vote stays. I was pretty caught off guard with this nonsense, but as Sorsha demonstrated, it's obviously not just Mac who feels this way. If I'm around after Day 1, legit scum hunting will begin. If not, good luck town!
For all you know they're just trying to rile you up. Self voting and giving up are not helpful--certainly not if you're civie.

I really don't understand the self vote.
He doesn't appear to be riled up, so their plan isn't working.

The use of they in these two posts is unusual. I am one being.

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