The Syndicate

Tatooine.

MovingPictures07

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:MovingPictures07
Hey, it's not even Day 1 yet.

I'm just practicing.

See, you haven't forgotten. :P

Turnip Head wrote:Hello padawans! I will be your mod on duty for this game. I'm always available to talk and give advice for any issues that come up during the game, so please don't be afraid to approach me if there's something you need to talk about.

I see that none of the usual troublemakers are playing this game, because they are both hosting.

That position can be filled.

Glorfindel wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:Hello padawans! I will be your mod on duty for this game. I'm always available to talk and give advice for any issues that come up during the game, so please don't be afraid to approach me if there's something you need to talk about.

I see that none of the usual troublemakers are playing this game, because they are both hosting.
Cool! Nice to make your acquaintance my friend Now, about my user title...

If you post like five thousand times it'll go away.

Golden wrote:Hey, Marmot...

Metalmarsh89

DharmaHelper wrote:HOST NOTE: With American Thanksgiving coming up, it is extremely likely there will be an extension/delay during that phase. For my convenience, please let me know if this will be an issue.

Only if you don't invite me over for dinner.

The hosts don't count.

Votes are not changeable in this poll.

DharmaHelper wrote: I will "Fully alphabetize" the next one. I ran the players list through an online alphabetizer and it goofed I guess so whatever you guys know who is who.

If it's easier for you, you can just alphabetize the letter of my name instead of my full name.

Golden wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote: I will "Fully alphabetize" the next one. I ran the players list through an online alphabetizer and it goofed I guess so whatever you guys know who is who.
If it's easier for you, you can just alphabetize the letter of my name instead of my full name.
89aaehlmmrst?

That's the one!

DharmaHelper wrote:This is why Epi is the finance guy and I'm the .... what the heck do I do again?

You're the IDEA guy.

MacDougall

Let's do this.

MacDougall wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:MacDougall

Let's do this.
You spelled MattF wrong.

Ma...

ybe I didn't.

Why should we policy lynch Matt?

a2thezebra wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:MacDougall

Let's do this.
Wait a second this is your ACTUAL vote? Did you forget votes are not changeable or are you this confident Mac is scum?

No and perhaps.

a2thezebra wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:MacDougall

Let's do this.
Wait a second this is your ACTUAL vote? Did you forget votes are not changeable or are you this confident Mac is scum?
No and perhaps.
Hence why I said "forget" rather than "know."

Please elaborate. This goes for you and Mac.

I don't want to blow up.

Also for the purposes of observance.

Glorfindel wrote:I think (like Savage) it's going to take me a little while getting into this game. My knowledge of the whole Star Wars theme could best be described as 'superficial' and having only played with one of you before makes this really hard in the context that I haven't any personal experience of your individual play styles Personally, I think I'm a better mid-game player anyway...

No worries Golrfindel (and Savage). Knowledge of the theme is never expected for games on this site, and you do have lots of players to meet.

Fortunately, baddie behavior is something that transcends mafia culture.

MacDougall wrote:OT posts are not always a bad thing to catch out scum on. I often get pinged by people talking about other stuff, if it seems like it's in lieu of actual contribution or seems like a forced line of dialogue. But largely that's a reasonable response DDL.

The point of the OT tags is to say something that can't be used against you.

Now if every single post someone makes is green, that's a different story.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Also this "gun to the head" thing is something MP does all the time. He assumes someone is pointing a gun to his head to ask for his reads, then writes a wall of text on them. Otherwise, he asks other people to give him their "gun to the head" reads.

Btw MP, any rainbow lists yet?

MP does this all the time? Where did you learn this?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
MacDougall wrote:OT posts are not always a bad thing to catch out scum on. I often get pinged by people talking about other stuff, if it seems like it's in lieu of actual contribution or seems like a forced line of dialogue. But largely that's a reasonable response DDL.
The point of the OT tags is to say something that can't be used against you.

Now if every single post someone makes is green, that's a different story.
Or you can do like a certain marmot: never use OT tags at all, and leave people guessing whether you are being serious or not (which is less than 10% of the time).

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Also this "gun to the head" thing is something MP does all the time. He assumes someone is pointing a gun to his head to ask for his reads, then writes a wall of text on them. Otherwise, he asks other people to give him their "gun to the head" reads.

Btw MP, any rainbow lists yet?
MP does this all the time? Where did you learn this?
Some time between the seventh and the eigth time I was asked to provide a gun to the head of someone during the first game I played here.

I forgot you were here for Death and Taxes. That was the first game on this site to see GTH reads.

a2thezebra wrote:So if MM can get away with anything how are we supposed to catch him if he is scum? Again I ask, if his actions are meta-proof, what is his normal scum behavior?

If you played Dune, you'd probably have an idea.

MacDougall wrote:
Golden wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:Also has everyone forgotten that MM has already voted? Am I the only one that is extremely bothered by that? Even Mac doesn't seem to care.
It's hard to be bothered by MM's normal civilian behaviour.
Initially I assumed it was a joke vote and that he hadn't noticed that there were no vote changes, but...

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Votes are not changeable in this poll.
So actually what the hell did you vote for me for Metalmarsh?

I already explained it to zebra.

Zebra saw me vote. Zebra commented on it, but nobody else did. Zebra brought it up again, and now it is suddenly a topic of conversation.

Placing a vote so early in the day phase should be a topic of conversation. It's the most exciting thing to happen so far. Why did nobody else consider it so until zebra had to bring it up again?

Here is where zebra brought it up the first time, directly after I placed my vote.

Here is where zebra brought it back up for discussion, about 12 hours or so later.

Golden and MP chimed in immediately with regards to my vote in response to zebra's comment. MacDougall did too, but he was the victim, and this wasn't his first mention either.

Golden - Well Golden had one post in between when the vote happened and when zebra recently brought it up. Also his response read sincere to me.

MP - On the other hand, MP had 7 posts after it happened and before zebra brought it up. Not only that, but this was MP's response. He didn't comment on it before (not until zebra brought it up saying she was bothered by it). MP agreed he was also bothered by it, though admitted to not knowing how to handle it. But he also awkwardly used the word "also" twice at the very beginning of this post. It looks like sentence restructuring, meaning MP was trying to pick his words.

Where's Simon?

Elohcin wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Where's Simon?
Simon lost tablet privileges today for killing his sister in Minecraft after several warnings not to. I was just about to call him and let him use my computer. Is that cheating as a mom?

I don't know, but my young niece and nephew went through this exact same process when I visited them last summer: killing each other in Minecraft. :P

Sorsha wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Here is where zebra brought it up the first time, directly after I placed my vote.

Here is where zebra brought it back up for discussion, about 12 hours or so later.

Golden and MP chimed in immediately with regards to my vote in response to zebra's comment. MacDougall did too, but he was the victim, and this wasn't his first mention either.

Golden - Well Golden had one post in between when the vote happened and when zebra recently brought it up. Also his response read sincere to me.

MP - On the other hand, MP had 7 posts after it happened and before zebra brought it up. Not only that, but this was MP's response. He didn't comment on it before (not until zebra brought it up saying she was bothered by it). MP agreed he was also bothered by it, though admitted to not knowing how to handle it. But he also awkwardly used the word "also" twice at the very beginning of this post. It looks like sentence restructuring, meaning MP was trying to pick his words.
So did you sell your vote and you think MP bought it and made you vote for Mac?

Good question.

No, I did not sell my vote today.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:MM is one of the hardest people to read it usually takes a few phase for me to even to form an opinion on him.
MP is really good at being bad but I don't think he is bad this game only because I don't think he would walk away from his computer when he is being talked about if he was bad.

You say this Bass, but he hasn't responded to my accusation yet.

I suppose he hadn't got to it yet, but I don't really know.

Spoiler: show

Some meta on Bass, when he calls me bad on Day 1, he's always been civ.

The one time he waffled on me on Day 1, he was mafia.

Nicely done all you Matt voters.

Elohcin wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Nicely done all you Matt voters.
However this doesn't really give us any information on who the baddies are as he was alone/no btsc.

It gives us the same information as lynching a civilian, sure. But it's a lot more beneficial.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Elohcin wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Nicely done all you Matt voters.
However this doesn't really give us any information on who the baddies are as he was alone/no btsc.
It gives us the same information as lynching a civilian, sure. But it's a lot more beneficial.

I rescind this statement. I thought Boba Fett was a standard serial killer. That doesn't appear to be the case.

Here are my top suspects going into Day 2 (in no particular order) and why:

1) MovingPictures07 - As I stated before, I don't like his comment about the timing of my Day 1 vote.

2) Bass_the_Clever - He said it takes him a while to get a grip on my alignment. That doesn't line up at all with our previous games' interactions.

3) MacDougall - This one isn't strong, but he was pretty carefree before I voted for him on Day 1, and got serious after I voted for him.

4) Nanana_Banana - He's done nothing but visit Tattooine.

5) Roxy - I agree with zebra about Roxy's vote (but not about Dom's). She offered a little disclaimer that Matt looked mildly suspicious for his Day 0 vote, and no such additionaly comments about any other player she talked about, yet coincidentally random'd on him Day 1.

6) a2thezebra - she is trying too hard and posting too much and is bad.

No dead people?

Cool beans.

Mishimeals is off the poll.

a2thezebra wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:No dead people?

Cool beans.
Agreed, but what's up with this Matt F stuff?

Episode V - Revenge of the Sith Boba.

I think the baddies tried to kill Matt a second time to make sure he was dead.

DrWilgy wrote:
Canucklehead wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:So... I have been relieved of my life in pet sounds mafia and am now catching up. What exactly happened to Matt?
Wilgy, you seem supremely disinterested this game. Why?
Not disinterested, just behind. I didn't expect it to start as soon as it did expect full force wilgy-ing as soon as I'm caught up. Also... Im not a doctor!

You are DrWilgy, and you can do it, and you are most definitely a doctor.

Roxy wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:So I just looked at the tally... Matt F has 5 votes and is in danger zone. One of those votes is from Glorfindel. Where did Glorfindel post anything regarding his vote? Did I miss it? If not, consider me alarmed.
That makes the third vote for Matt F that I am uncomfortable with. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm officially not voting for him. Most of the wagon is just too easy.
This is absurd. You had been posting consistently about Matt F. You made some really great points. Yet when others vote there you get "uncomfortable" with your own suspicion? Why when it was so consistent and on point? Instead you vote Bass who you, yourself said you wanted to wait for another response from him. Your meaningless vote after the whole day of iso's and suspicions felt like a big cop out.
Then after Matt's reveal you come out with tons of excuses and guns blazing against Golden bc he did not push Bass more - huh? Why does what Golden does or votes make so much of a difference with how you vote? Why is it Golden's fault Bass did not get lynched?

To be fair, you didn't vote Matt for the really great points that zebra provided, you random'd.

sig wrote:Okay looking at Brian's post out of these seven almost all are null. I'm thinking Golden isn't mafia, but besides that nothing from this list. I think we do have at least one or two mafia member here and I do agree with Dragon these players have had little activity, but this also seems like Dragon is trying to get us to focus on those who haven't posted at all, and this is a good way to lynch civs who are easy lynches and won't attract attention to those who pushed for there lynch if they flip civ.

Don't forget that there are two mafia though. Each mafia team will be hunting the other, not necessarily trying to pin easy lynches on civs. Well, I guess they still could, since they want civvies dead too.

But they will appear a little more sincere then in a game with only one mafia team.

Roxy wrote:Enrique- Where and how am I supposed to defend against a random vote? I can't which has been my point. Its an easy suspicion to make bc I cannot defend against it.

You could argue that you often random on Day 1.

Mac, I'm sorry you'll write
In limericks from day til night
But's it not all bad
In fact it is rad
And may provide some insight

In fact, these limericks seem fun
To write until the day is done
Mac, I'll join in your plight
I think you're alright
And together, let's lynch some scum

MovingPictures07 wrote:Term paper is done, after pulling an all-nighter. I'm tired... and unfortunately still have to make the powerpoint presentation. Woo for procrastination...

Regardless, I'll make sure I'm back within a few hours of EoD.

Congrats man!

So we shouldn't blame you too much if you're not coherent? :P

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Here are my top suspects going into Day 2 (in no particular order) and why:

1) MovingPictures07 - As I stated before, I don't like his comment about the timing of my Day 1 vote.

2) Bass_the_Clever - He said it takes him a while to get a grip on my alignment. That doesn't line up at all with our previous games' interactions.

3) MacDougall - This one isn't strong, but he was pretty carefree before I voted for him on Day 1, and got serious after I voted for him.

4) Nanana_Banana - He's done nothing but visit Tattooine.

5) Roxy - I agree with zebra about Roxy's vote (but not about Dom's). She offered a little disclaimer that Matt looked mildly suspicious for his Day 0 vote, and no such additionaly comments about any other player she talked about, yet coincidentally random'd on him Day 1.

6) a2thezebra - she is trying too hard and posting too much and is bad.
Did you not see my response?

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Spoiler: show
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Here is where zebra brought it up the first time, directly after I placed my vote.

Here is where zebra brought it back up for discussion, about 12 hours or so later.

Golden and MP chimed in immediately with regards to my vote in response to zebra's comment. MacDougall did too, but he was the victim, and this wasn't his first mention either.

Golden - Well Golden had one post in between when the vote happened and when zebra recently brought it up. Also his response read sincere to me.

MP - On the other hand, MP had 7 posts after it happened and before zebra brought it up. Not only that, but this was MP's response. He didn't comment on it before (not until zebra brought it up saying she was bothered by it). MP agreed he was also bothered by it, though admitted to not knowing how to handle it. But he also awkwardly used the word "also" twice at the very beginning of this post. It looks like sentence restructuring, meaning MP was trying to pick his words.
Metalmarsh89, you're missing something important here that negates your analysis about my response to your vote. The reason I hadn't pushed you on your vote was because between the time of your vote and this post about an hour later, I had not posted.

Why is that latter post important? Because you said you made your vote for observance. I thus did not feel it necessary to press you on it at that time. But when zebra kept going on about your vote, I wanted to make it clear that I was also bothered by your quick vote.

As to my "also" wording, I made that post in a rush, and if anything that blunder should indicate I gave too little thought to my post wording, rather than the alternative.

If you still have concerns, let me know.

Seems I missed it.

My point still stands; if you saw the second post that you linked from me an hour after my vote, why did you come into the thread later and say you didn't like my vote?

As for the "also" thing, fair enough. It could go either way.

Linki: wtf

I changed my mind Mac. Do you have a problem with that?

Dom wrote:
Enrique wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:No dead people?

Cool beans.
Agreed, but what's up with this Matt F stuff?
Whatever it was it was damn creepy.

My guess is it has something to do with the Imperial secret roles? IIRC Palpatine tempts Anakin with the ability to "cheat death" through the Dark Side of the Force, which fits right into Vader and Sidious' secret roles. Then there's the issue that they failed to kill tonight, maybe meaning they could only use one power or the other?

Speculation: The Empire can recruit deadies into their BTSC for... some purpose, but that would explain the "And you're going to help me!" in the post.
What do we all think of this?

The rules say that team PMs are not permitted. I would imagine that the Stormtrooper would perform the kills for the Empire since he is vanilla otherwise, and forget to send his PM in.

Hosts: do failed (or blocked or whatever) nightkills show up in the night post?

Also, considering the planet might blow up today, I'm surprised players are waiting so long to place their votes. Day ends in about 2 hours.

sig wrote:
Sorsha wrote:I am voting for Elohcin. I don't feel like her vote for zebra is genuine.

Elohcin wrote:I am voting for Zebra. I don't feel like her vote for Bass is genuine.
Same language to the word, does this ping anyone else?

Was that intentional Sorsha?

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Zebra I feel like you having scum reads on all the low posters is odd. There is so much stuff with people who post a lot and you don't get any kind of scum read from any of them?
This could be a scum tactic to look like he or she is trying to catch scum when really all he or she is doing is throwing shit at low posters who probably aren't around and won't say anything. While she stays in good graces of the high posters.

This looks like the post Bass is talking about wert zebra.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:
Dom wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:If I get lynches I want people to really look at the people leading my Lynch. Look at what I said about zebra and really think about.
so...what?
Dude she/he was going after low posters at first it wasn't till after I said something about it that he/she switched it up a little. She even seemed upset that golden didn't vote for me last Lynch when we got the sk. If I was mafia I would be upset if the sk got lynches day one it means more work for the mafia.

Here was her Day 1 rainbow list.

Spoiler: show

I think you are incorrect in your assertion of zebra. Matt and Enrique were both relatively high postsers, yet they both ended up at the bottom of her rainbow list.

She also has Canucklehead and Savage up near the top of her rainbow list, despite being at the bottom of the posting spectrum.

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