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by S~V~S
Sun Feb 14, 2016 10:49 pm
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Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 0]

Eighth :cool:
by S~V~S
Sun Feb 14, 2016 11:16 pm
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Bass_the_Clever wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Eighth :cool:
God I have missed playing mafia with you and everyone else. Also on that note I know the games that I signed up for in the past I didn't participate or subbed out its because I got into a serious relationship and couldn't figure out how to balance the two. Me and my lady friend have moved into together so it should make balancing the two a lot easier. So my hat goes off to anyone who has a significant other and plays mafia because it's extremely hard if your significant other is like mine and doesn't like cell phones or laptops out while we are hanging out. Lol
Oh how awesome congrats :D

And the Asylum makes sense as the scene of the crime; I was thinking that or the Police Station are both good ideas. But I don't know all that much about this universe, so I am willing to listen to those that do.
by S~V~S
Mon Feb 15, 2016 7:44 am
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Matt wrote:Batman!!

So far, gettin' indie vibes from sig and SVS, and Golden is bein' strange.

I think we should go to Arkham considering the game is Arkham Mafia, but if this is like Star Wars, then we'll probably visit all of these locations eventually.

Btw hosts, is this game based on a mix of different source materials? I did not expect to see the name "Fish Mooney" pop up in what otherwise looks to be a pretty sweet game. :eek:

(oh, and if town knows what's good for it, we should probably lynch Wilgy Day 1 just to be safe)
So Matt, which of my two posts gave you that vibe? Was it the throwaway post or was it the one where I said I don't know alot about this topic?
S~V~S wrote:Eighth :cool:
S~V~S wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Eighth :cool:
God I have missed playing mafia with you and everyone else. Also on that note I know the games that I signed up for in the past I didn't participate or subbed out its because I got into a serious relationship and couldn't figure out how to balance the two. Me and my lady friend have moved into together so it should make balancing the two a lot easier. So my hat goes off to anyone who has a significant other and plays mafia because it's extremely hard if your significant other is like mine and doesn't like cell phones or laptops out while we are hanging out. Lol
Oh how awesome congrats :D

And the Asylum makes sense as the scene of the crime; I was thinking that or the Police Station are both good ideas. But I don't know all that much about this universe, so I am willing to listen to those that do.
Scotty wrote:Ahoy, fellow Gothamites!!
Turnip Head wrote:Or maybe we are choosing individually?
this one would surprise me not.

I think looking towards the scene of the breakout is not a bad idea. I will vote there.

Though by the end of the day, it may not be a bad idea for multiple people to choose one of each option, just in case...
Since there is a map, yeah, I would guess we are not all going to the winning location, too.

Since my initial impulse was scene of the crime, or the police station, and Arkham has the most voters already,I will go to the police station.
by S~V~S
Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:22 pm
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Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 0]

Enrique wrote:
Golden wrote:
Enrique wrote:
Golden wrote:@Hosts - what happens if both crime families try to buy off the same cop?

Bass's idea sounds sensible enough, but I'd also point out that everyone from the Asylum appears to be independent. So, it might not help us find the crime families (who seem more analagous to mafia).

But a lot of those independents don't seem exactly friendly.
Independents whom most civvies need dead to win :eye:
They do? It doesn't look to me like ANY civilians need the independents dead, to me. Whereas the town definitely needs the crime families dead.

This is literally the first think I noticed when I got my role card, so :eye: :eye: right back at you.
I really don't think he's a cop based on this post. Not to mention, he could hope to get bought off, but in the end the mafia picks a number, not a player, so he can't exactly angle himself for that.

Although
Golden wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Eighth :cool:
:hugs:

SVS and I have an 8 bond.
There's a number.
It's a LOST number :)
by S~V~S
Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:42 pm
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Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 0]

Dom wrote:Enrique, how desperate are you to get Golden out of this game and why?
Although I am generally the person who jumps all over Goldens shit at the start, Enriques single mindedness is kinda freaking me a bit here. He has some good points, but so does Golden (some of the Indys will be attritioned out via NKs, or lynches, etc.). I mean we need to keep them in mind, especially if they individually impact our individual win condition, but getting the baddies is paramount, IMO.

Actually, having just hosted the Champs game, I think our goal should be to NOT lynch the other civs, then lynch baddies>lynch Indies.
by S~V~S
Mon Feb 15, 2016 3:11 pm
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This was kinda why I brought up that point about the Champs game; it's better for civs to lynch either baddies or indies rather than each other.

I have not seen enough yet to think for sure Enri v. Golden is civ/civ, but neither have I seen anywhere near enough to think either is bad. Disagreement =/= baddieness.
by S~V~S
Mon Feb 15, 2016 6:23 pm
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Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 0]

Golden wrote:
Enrique wrote:Okay, I guess I get it. Dom's idea basically was that I wasn't being genuine about Golden role-hinting. Well, it's not something I even believed. I thought my post was clear in presenting it as an alternative to what I actually do believe. If Golden was a cop I wouldn't be going after him, no. Does that make sense?

He did present it as an accusation, though. "I'm not buying it" isn't much of a question especially when you frame it around an inside joke thing that I had no way of interpreting correctly. He can say he doesn't buy Golden hinting at a number, but that I'm lying and obviously understood the reference? Yeah no. That's silly and not really an argument.
I think your suspicion of Dom is fair.

I know that SVS has a favourite number of 8. I didn't know it was because of Lost, and I wouldn't have made an association to Lost. I just happen to know it is her favourite number because it is also mine, and don't see why anyone else should know this.
Actually, I think it is more birthday related~ we both have birthdays on the 8th, which makews it my favorite number AND my favorite LOST number.
a2thezebra wrote:
Matt wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
Matt wrote:Zeebs - Strong or not, can you give me your current read of each of the Arkham voters? Considering the votes for Arkham are "downright alarming", just wondering.

:beer:
Bass_the_Clever - Null
ekeknat - Null
sprityo - Null
Matt - Bad
Scotty - Null
MovingPictures07 - Null
Nerolunar - Null
:meany:

So you are either refusing to give your reads or your "downright alarming" post was BS.

Which one?
Neither. As humorous as my response is, it is also genuine. I don't have enough content with any of the other players but yourself to be confident in reading them even slightly. I don't see why saying that I find the amount of votes for Arkham Asylum to be alarming - which it is - has to refer to any specific votes or any specific voters.
So you are basically saying that you are so easily alarmed that you literally find "nothing" alarming? Yet were something *really* alarming to happen, I don't imagine you'll go running out of the thread screaming, hmm?
by S~V~S
Mon Feb 15, 2016 6:45 pm
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Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 0]

Null = Nothing.

You were alarmed literally by *nothing*
by S~V~S
Mon Feb 15, 2016 7:02 pm
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Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 0]

a2thezebra wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Null = Nothing.

You were alarmed literally by *nothing*
I'm alarmed at the poll option being so popular. I am not alarmed at anyone in particular who voted for it. Why is this impossible to understand?
Kinda.

It just seemed liek you said that for something to say, a throwaway comment. Then when asked about it, you tried to lulz it off with the *null* post.

Linki, OMG what?
by S~V~S
Mon Feb 15, 2016 7:12 pm
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Zebra said: I've yet to hear anyone that has expressed concern about my statements regarding the AA option explain how such an implication would be automatic.
What does this mean, exactly? I am being serious, I honestly do not understand this sentence :blush:

Linki @ Golden, but she DOESN'T think there are baddies on there.
by S~V~S
Mon Feb 15, 2016 7:19 pm
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Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 0]

S~V~S wrote:
Zebra said: I've yet to hear anyone that has expressed concern about my statements regarding the AA option explain how such an implication would be automatic.
What does this mean, exactly? I am being serious, I honestly do not understand this sentence :blush:
.
Maybe it got lost in all the linki, but Zebra, what does this mean? I am far from stupid, but this sentence is too convoluted for me.
by S~V~S
Mon Feb 15, 2016 7:26 pm
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Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 0]

a2thezebra wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
Zebra said: I've yet to hear anyone that has expressed concern about my statements regarding the AA option explain how such an implication would be automatic.
What does this mean, exactly? I am being serious, I honestly do not understand this sentence :blush:

Linki @ Golden, but she DOESN'T think there are baddies on there.
That's not on you, it's worded very poorly since I'm rushing to respond to all of you as quickly as I can.

What I mean to say is that I have yet to see anyone who is concerned or suspects me for what I said about finding the Arkham Asylum option alarming explain to me why finding the option itself (as well as it being so popular) alarming automatically implies that I (for some reason) therefore have to find particular people who voted for it alarming as well. Golden is explaining it for me a lot better than I am myself, sorry.
Thank you.

Linki @ Zebra, MP seems to be on your side. What difference does it make how many posts it took?
by S~V~S
Mon Feb 15, 2016 7:27 pm
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sprityo wrote:(In my honest opinion, spoiler in your quotes helps so much)
Some people can't read them on their phones. And some people find it easier to read in context without them.
by S~V~S
Mon Feb 15, 2016 7:29 pm
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Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 0]

Golden wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote: Lol, that's like super duper explosive, but alright. I personally understand what you were trying to convey originally, now, but it only took extended conversation.
Right, and for Nerolunar it took a single quick response and for Golden it took no response at all. Just saying.
You realize this kind of attitude can come across as antagonistic, and further fans the flames of fire of people who suspect you due to a misunderstanding, yeah?
How do you separate those who misunderstand, and those who deliberately don't see zebra's point because it is convenient not to? I think zebra's point is pertinent. I didn't find it ambiguous in the slightest, I understood it from the very start. I have trouble accepting its all a big misunderstanding.
Wow.
by S~V~S
Mon Feb 15, 2016 7:40 pm
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Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 0]

Dom wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
Golden wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote: Lol, that's like super duper explosive, but alright. I personally understand what you were trying to convey originally, now, but it only took extended conversation.
Right, and for Nerolunar it took a single quick response and for Golden it took no response at all. Just saying.
You realize this kind of attitude can come across as antagonistic, and further fans the flames of fire of people who suspect you due to a misunderstanding, yeah?
How do you separate those who misunderstand, and those who deliberately don't see zebra's point because it is convenient not to? I think zebra's point is pertinent. I didn't find it ambiguous in the slightest, I understood it from the very start. I have trouble accepting its all a big misunderstanding.
Wow.
Can you elaborate?
This coming from you, the master of one word posts? :P

It just seems so ... I can't really explain oit... Just Wow. It seems like a somewhat antagonistic/mean thing for Golden to say. The implication about not understanding something as quickly as Golden did is somehow suspicious or not a genuine feeling, or not to undeerstand it the same way that he did.

I totally misunderstoof Zebra (I think, I am not 100% sure I totally understand her point even now) yet she (and Golden) seem to be implying that it was such a simple thing that it is somehow odd to NOT have gotten it right away (just sayin'). My least favorite mafia (or rl tbh) thing is beingmade to feel stupid. And posts like this^^^^ seem to have that as their mainpoint.

So yeah, Wow.
by S~V~S
Mon Feb 15, 2016 7:53 pm
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Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 0]

You are.
by S~V~S
Mon Feb 15, 2016 7:53 pm
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Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 0]

I never said I suspected him. I just thought it was rude.
by S~V~S
Mon Feb 15, 2016 7:56 pm
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It's like we are not all having the same conversation somehow. This is probablynot helping you, Sprityo.

Linki, yes some do. But I had no idea what she was saying, maybe you got it in one post, but not getting it in one post does not make someone a baddie.
by S~V~S
Mon Feb 15, 2016 7:58 pm
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Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 0]

I feel like we are all having different conersations and not one person is listening to any other person.

Except Zebra actually.

linki @bea :cloud9:
by S~V~S
Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:03 pm
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Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 0]

Golden wrote:
S~V~S wrote:It's like we are not all having the same conversation somehow. This is probablynot helping you, Sprityo.

Linki, yes some do. But I had no idea what she was saying, maybe you got it in one post, but not getting it in one post does not make someone a baddie.
No, but so many people not getting it does make me think that some might be bad, especially given that the meaning is able to be correctly understood.
It never made you think that she was ambiguous and perhaps not everyne understands her as well as you do? You automatically jump to *suspicious*?
by S~V~S
Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:10 pm
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Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 0]

This is the exact kind of thing that happened in GOC, everyone is getting wrapped up in theor own little theory and no one is listening to anyone at alll. Well, some are a bit, but for the most part, they aren't.

Hopefully we can all take a deep breath and start over again.
by S~V~S
Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:17 pm
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Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 0]

Enrique wrote:
@linki: We're going in circles a lot. My view remains the same. Not needing every inmate dead doesn't mean they're not essential lynch targets. But we can leave that for later when we actually have a choice to make.
<3

Thanks for this.

I think it would really really help if we all spoke TO each other rather than AT each other. Hostin GOC made me want to work a bit at trying to reduce tunnelvision from MY game. But I think having an open mind helps civvies in general.
by S~V~S
Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:32 pm
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MovingPictures07 wrote:How about a new discussion point: What do you all think of this post by MacDougall?
MacDougall wrote:Checking in to say that Turnip Head is bad.
I haven't said anything about it yet myself.
He voted, too.


Linki @ bea,wow fast catch up. Do you have any opinions on anything betweeen Typhs remark that you commented on, and the more recent discussion between Zebra & MP?
by S~V~S
Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:41 pm
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Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 0]

a2thezebra wrote:
sprityo wrote:
a2thezebra wrote: I'm against it because I don't see how going to the place where everyone has escaped from, rather than any other place where we have a chance at finding out where they have escaped to, would be beneficial for the civs. I'm also against it because I find it shady how more popular it is than all of the other options. As to why it got so drawn out, your guess is as good as mine.

linki - Holy crap that's like twenty posts.
haha yeah

yeah i get your view, but i mean what's the point of arguing it when it seems like most people have already voted for it?
That's just it, I didn't intend to argue it specifically because most people had already voted for it. I only wanted to make clear that I felt uneasy (alarmed, if that's not too "explosive" of a word to use) about it, but Matt decided blowing it out of proportion was a good idea and after we argued for a bit others started to notice and be bothered by it as well.
Actually I was bothered by it before Matts post, I wrote a post similar to my "null = nothing" post and caught Matts post in linki, so I did not post it. When I got home post work, I decided to ask you anyhow. And are you still saying there was something wrong with misunderstanding you by your "" on "expolsive"?
by S~V~S
Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:59 pm
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Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 0]

a2thezebra wrote:S~V~S I'm bothered that you asked if I was still saying there was something wrong with misunderstanding me earlier when I haven't said that the entire game. You seem genuine but it kind of irks me since I thought we were clear on this and just now is the first time I've been completely caught up the entire damn game because I've been trying to respond to everyone who has addressed me as best as I can for over three hours now. I'm not trying to take it out on you so please don't think that, I'm just saying that I've been trying to be as patient as possible for a while and come across as compliant as I can when really I've been pretty irritated for a while. I just don't want to feel like my effort and avoiding talking to people in the room for some time now has been all in vain if you still think that I was blaming anyone for misunderstanding me.
OK, just wanted to clarify. Some people (I know I am one) don;t always get humor directed at them. And making fun of people for something you have moved past might, reasonable, appear as if you have not actually moved on and are trying to ridicule their points, a time honored gameplay strategy. So I was just clarifying that that was not the case.

That quote thing seemed a bit like you making fun of the people who suspected you, that was why I emphasized it. It was that more so than the misunderstanding. *I* have moved past it. But that "" made me think that perhaps you have not. "Alarming"is an adverb; be glad Epignosis is hosting, not playing.

And I get it. I get total irritation. And you are handling it much more gracefully than I did just recently in another game. And I am sorry about that. But mocking suspicions of you isn't a good look, even after the fact.
by S~V~S
Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:06 pm
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Not everyone views it that way; to me it reads like mocking the PERSON. I would have taken it as such had it been me. And although MP & I are wildle different, that is one way we are the same. Some people can man up & grow a sense of humor about themselves, and some cannot. So I tend to view mocking, or making fuin of peoples opinions, as aggression.

It's a fault I have.

Now I want to read what TH says about sig.
by S~V~S
Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:27 pm
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Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 0]

a2thezebra wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Not everyone views it that way; to me it reads like mocking the PERSON. I would have taken it as such had it been me. And although MP & I are wildle different, that is one way we are the same. Some people can man up & grow a sense of humor about themselves, and some cannot. So I tend to view mocking, or making fuin of peoples opinions, as aggression.

It's a fault I have.
I understand having a problem with mocking the person, but just before you said it was mocking the suspicion, and that that wasn't a good look. Which is it? I'm having a very hard time trying to understand where you stand. I'll think that you feel one way and then you'll say something that makes me think otherwise. I know it's not your fault but it's extremely frustrating. I'm not sure how much of this you're trying to imply is alignment-indicative, how much of it you're saying is something you take personal not game-related issue with, how much of it you're being sarcastic about, I just don't follow you at all here. Same with the post before this that you made. Like what were you saying by stating that "alarming" is an adverb? Was that meant to be relevant, were you just being funny, and in either case what did I say that you were responding to by saying that? Sorry if I'm being interrogative and rant-y, I'm just agitated that I still can't seem to properly communicate with you in this game just like the last. It's not what I want and I feel that it's my fault.
We could not communicate in the last becasue you were a baddie trying to kill me, making a mountain out of a molehill, lol.

And I am not saying it is alignment indicative. I am saying I wish you would stop mocking MP or anyone for suspecting you, or questioning you. You say something, or a number of things, that make total sense to me and I feel all warm and fuzzy, then you say something like "just sayin" or mock someones suspicions of you by putting words in quotes, anf the warm fuzzy just evaporates. Your content is not baddie to me; it's the sarco-trimmings that keep pulling me back in.

Again, it's a failing of mine.

And having read THs case, I respect TH tons, and take him very seriously. He brings up a lot of good points.

TH did you play Dune? I don't remember, iirc, sig was actually bad there.

Linki @ Mac, Bass has struck me,he seems to be dancing around TH. Am I wrong, Bass?
by S~V~S
Mon Feb 15, 2016 10:00 pm
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Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 0]

a2thezebra wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Not everyone views it that way; to me it reads like mocking the PERSON. I would have taken it as such had it been me. And although MP & I are wildle different, that is one way we are the same. Some people can man up & grow a sense of humor about themselves, and some cannot. So I tend to view mocking, or making fuin of peoples opinions, as aggression.

It's a fault I have.
I understand having a problem with mocking the person, but just before you said it was mocking the suspicion, and that that wasn't a good look. Which is it? I'm having a very hard time trying to understand where you stand. I'll think that you feel one way and then you'll say something that makes me think otherwise. I know it's not your fault but it's extremely frustrating. I'm not sure how much of this you're trying to imply is alignment-indicative, how much of it you're saying is something you take personal not game-related issue with, how much of it you're being sarcastic about, I just don't follow you at all here. Same with the post before this that you made. Like what were you saying by stating that "alarming" is an adverb? Was that meant to be relevant, were you just being funny, and in either case what did I say that you were responding to by saying that? Sorry if I'm being interrogative and rant-y, I'm just agitated that I still can't seem to properly communicate with you in this game just like the last. It's not what I want and I feel that it's my fault.
We could not communicate in the last becasue you were a baddie trying to kill me, making a mountain out of a molehill, lol.

Even though I was a baddie in that game I genuinely believed everything I said regarding Scotty's slip and I was genuinely VERY frustrated that you weren't responding to so much of what I had to say. Like VERY, VERY frustrated. I honestly thought you were doing it because you were a baddie from the other team it was pissing me off so much.

Well, you were incredibly wrong.

And I am not saying it is alignment indicative. I am saying I wish you would stop mocking MP or anyone for suspecting you, or questioning you. You say something, or a number of things, that make total sense to me and I feel all warm and fuzzy, then you say something like "just sayin" or mock someones suspicions of you by putting words in quotes, anf the warm fuzzy just evaporates. Your content is not baddie to me; it's the sarco-trimmings that keep pulling me back in.

See this is what I'm talking about though. I'm not mocking anyone for suspecting me or questioning me nor have I done that the entire game, and it seriously bothers me that you still think that I have been when I have clarified so many times that I am not.

When I said "just sayin" that was a point I was making because I felt that MP was trying to blame me entirely for misunderstanding me when I don't see why anyone has to be blamed for that. It wasn't mockery and it wasn't trying to put the blame on him. I clarified and explained this, to you.

When I put words in quotes (you're referring to "explosive" I take it) that wasn't mocking MP, that was me expressing that I (still) disagree with the idea that using the word "alarming" can be considered explosive language on its own. Just because I expressed that opinion humorously doesn't mean that I was mocking MP. Again, I clarified and explained this, to you.

Yet you still say that it's mockery here, when it's not. You still say that it's a comment about the person I'm responding to rather than a point that they made, when it's not. You still say that it's because they suspect me or question me, when it's not. And I find that infuriating because I'm not sure (just as with the previous game) if you're ignoring me clarify things to you over and over and over and over again deliberately, or if I'm just not conveying them to you properly enough. In the last game you never acknowledged that I suspected you for reasons beside what I thought was a slip from Scotty even though I made it clear to you a gajillion times. You would even quote me directly, address the part regarding the slip, and snip out the part of each and every damn quote where I expressed suspicion of you for things beside the slip. I would make a large post with lots of points and you would only respond to a single point, about what? The slip, of course. And you kept doing this every time you would respond over and over again and it was driving me nuts. Now you're doing it again only instead of it being about me accusing you of things, you're doing it about me mocking people, which I take much greater offense to so I'm even more infuriated by it.


I am sorry you see it this way;I am only being honest. I have been told I am over sensitive. But I am totally a tone player and I read people based on emotion. And this is how I am reading you,and it comes across as snarky. And snark, o me , comes across as negative. I am not trying to offend you or anything of that nature. But to em mocking people tends to be a baddie tactic to marginalize peoples opinions. So more than one instance of snark or mocking reads as that to me. I just read it negatively.

Again, it's a failing of mine.

I don't think it's in any way wrong to not feel warm and fuzzy if you feel someone is mocking people, but I'm not doing that. But rather than listen to me when I say that I'm not doing that you still say that I am doing that and that you're just not reacting to it well. This is the kind of thing that keeps happening with us and it makes me go apeshit because it just seems so unnecessary and easily avoidable yet it keeps fucking happening and I don't know what I can do to help it. It's the most frustrating thing ever and I'm sorry but I don't know what to do better.
I know you disagree with me, but I do think you ARE doing this. And it is a failing that have that I tend to conflate snark with bad. I know that *I* am more snark when I am bad, and so are most other people. From years of observation. In real life and in online games. So again, since this is my fail, I am asking you to please stop doing it.
by S~V~S
Mon Feb 15, 2016 10:03 pm
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And I have to add before I go to bed,

nanananananananana BATBEAR!!

(Not a role hint I just really really lovemy avatar :D )
by S~V~S
Mon Feb 15, 2016 10:09 pm
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Noooo!

Sincerity ftw :)
by S~V~S
Mon Feb 15, 2016 10:17 pm
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I am very seriously not sure why . I don;t think anything I have said is all that awful.
by S~V~S
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If you are still here Zebra,and I think you may be :) , I am sorry if I have frustrated you so much. I am just saying it how I see it.

Which is not to say that is how you see it.
by S~V~S
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@Bea,no I don't think so. It's hard to articulate. I read making fun of peoples suspicions as marginaization.Which I tend to view as bad. If people feel dumb they are lesslikely to talk, Baddie 101.

I also know that Zeebs & I, for all good intentions, tend to be a bad train wreck about each other. In a pastlife, when she was here in a different incarnation, she struck me as playing a bad game like boos. And boo was always super cuttingly witty, with only a razor line between witty civ & mocking baddie. You now what I mean. LB squared to the 100th.

I am potentially reading into this, but not unlike earlier discussions, i am not sure why she is not getting what i am saying. I am being clear to the point of rude (and not trying to be hurtful, srsly). I was at the head of the "let's drop it and start over", but then I thought she was not letting go of the sarco.
by S~V~S
Mon Feb 15, 2016 10:47 pm
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And seriously, Batbear has to go to bed, she needs to get up at 5 AM (eek).
by S~V~S
Tue Feb 16, 2016 10:59 am
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Good Luck with that :)
by S~V~S
Tue Feb 16, 2016 11:00 am
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Also @Bea, thanks for that. No one like you to make a well needed slap feel like a hug :)
by S~V~S
Tue Feb 16, 2016 12:29 pm
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I think I am going to take a 24 hour break from the thread, and come back with my memory of the past 100% erased. Hasta la vista thread, bbl :)
by S~V~S
Wed Feb 17, 2016 7:50 am
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Glorfindel wrote:Well, 20 pages in and I'm not much the wiser. I don't know a lot of the players here (well, not well anyway) but from the time I have spent here, I'd draw one conclusion. I played with Zebra in Star Wars and I saw a really slick performance from a very confident operator who always seemed in control. In Pikmin, I saw Zebra as a very transparent Townie who was picked off early by the twin forces of evil and ignorance. This game, I'm getting Pikmin vibes from her again. She's playing demonstrably differently to how she did in Star Wars and while it's possible that she is simply using her extraordinary ability to pull the wool over my eyes, I'm inclined to give her the benefit of the doubt. I'm simply not getting bad vibes from her at this stage.
a2thezebra wrote:Like, I don't articulate myself very well very often. Fine. But I fucking try. I try to get people to understand and if anyone has a concern no matter how many or how much, I try to address them, even if I feel like it's something I've already addressed and explained as many times in as many different ways as I can conceive of. But when I feel like the same isn't being done for me, it kills my motivation to keep putting in this effort. Because where is it getting me?

I don't understand how someone can spend an hour and a half writing a post addressed to someone to explain their suspicion of them and not only have it not acknowledged but then that person has the nerve to demand that the person that put in that effort start answering their questions as if they haven't already done that, while constantly misrepresenting that person.
I know this is probably a stupid thing to say but you sound really frustrated here Zebra. I understand why and try not to worry - not everyone is oblivious to your efforts. Whilst it'd be a disaster if you were Mafia, I think you're a huge asset to us if you're not and I for one would like to give you the the chance to help us win this :hug:
So you read the whole thread? Awesome :D

Fresh eyes are a good thing. I see you have strong opinions on this one situation; do you have any thoughts on Enrique vs Golden? Golden played Star Wars. What about Mac & TH? Did it read like a slip to you? All of these things took over the thread for a time. You have commented fairly in depth on one; I would appreciate your thoughts on the others.

While I am still waffled on Zebra, I feel pretty much the opposite to you regarding Matt. Having just hosted him bad, I will say that him jumping out the gate and speaking his mind is very par for the course for civ Matt. He knows he may frustrate people, but he dowesn't just speak his piece, he OWNS his piece. He takes that piece andhe does the cha cha on it. Bad Matt was a bitmore cautious about going full out until endgame. Not seeing that here.

I was also fairly involved in that situation, at least at the beginning. Any opinion on me? My thoughts on Zebra were pretty much really similar to Matts. Since your one towen read, Zebra, and your one bad read, Matt, come from the same situation, I would be interested in hearing your opinion as well.

Taking a break was good, and the second half of Day Zero with my unchangeable vote already made seemed like a good time [/hissy]

I did not and do not find anything odd about THs word choices. I have seen people lambasted for "trying too hard" by saying "we", and also seen them attacked for saying "they", like, "Oh aren't you a civ, that you talk about 'them' in the third person?". And his reaction was more inline with what I would expect from him as a civ. He would have been smoother & shrugged it off more had he been bad, I think.

That said, I trust Macs tone reads, in the games I have played with him, I have seen him to have a good gut. So not particularly suspecting TH, but will keep more of an eye on him than I may have done. I am not one to discuss who I trust, but if I did have oneof those lists, while TH would not be the top name, hewould be very far from the bottom. Mac, too, really.

Now that you have done so, Glorfindel, I need to reread the thread some today to clear out my preconceived notions.
by S~V~S
Wed Feb 17, 2016 9:22 am
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Well couched and careful reply. I applaud you. :clap:

I am surprised you managed to read the thread and miss Golden & Enrique. Also, since you did comment about how frustrated Zebra was, you must have noted that I had some part in that as well as Matt. Maybe you missed where I asked you if you had an opinion as to my part in those goings on.

I know some people view Day Zero as a throwaway day and don't post much; I hope to hear more from them now that it is Day One :)

And since we can discuss the Zero poll results, I look forward to hearing the thoughts of the Arkham voters. All I learned was that cops in a busy crime ridden city like this are generally busy :shrug:
by S~V~S
Wed Feb 17, 2016 9:32 am
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Typhoony wrote:Are you suspicious of Glorfindel SVS?
I am not sure, tbh. I was just intrigued by his reaction to having read the thread. There was alot of tunnel type stuff and some quite a bit of tension at some points going on, and he only noted one thing, and his opinion on that seemed a bit one dimensional.

His reply was very well crafted; and tbh, it felt kind of *crafted* to me, if you get my feeling~ designed to appease. I can't be anywhere near sure at this point; he is unfailingly polite and I don't know him well, so have no basis of comparison. SO my initial thought, intrigued, best fits my feelings at this time, I think.

Do you have an opinion?
by S~V~S
Wed Feb 17, 2016 9:38 am
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Dom wrote:SVS, do you know if Glorfindel is from the US?
I have no idea where he is from, why?
by S~V~S
Wed Feb 17, 2016 9:43 am
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Help?
by S~V~S
Wed Feb 17, 2016 9:45 am
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I am sure he is capable of crafting a carefully worded post on his own? And he did it while quite a few people were online, so yeah, maybe a tad, lol.
by S~V~S
Wed Feb 17, 2016 9:48 am
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No I was insinuating that he was very, very careful with his wording, and that's about it.

And to reiterate, maybe you are reading into it just a tad.
by S~V~S
Wed Feb 17, 2016 10:14 am
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OK, good to know. I don't have any experience of him as a player, but having seen him play as a game mod, I think that that is probably a fair assessment. I think it got my attention that in that whole clusterfuck of a Day Zero, only one thing caught his eye.
by S~V~S
Wed Feb 17, 2016 12:27 pm
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Metalmarsh89 wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
Typhoony wrote:Are you suspicious of Glorfindel SVS?
I am not sure, tbh. I was just intrigued by his reaction to having read the thread. There was alot of tunnel type stuff and some quite a bit of tension at some points going on, and he only noted one thing, and his opinion on that seemed a bit one dimensional.

His reply was very well crafted; and tbh, it felt kind of *crafted* to me, if you get my feeling~ designed to appease. I can't be anywhere near sure at this point; he is unfailingly polite and I don't know him well, so have no basis of comparison. SO my initial thought, intrigued, best fits my feelings at this time, I think.

Do you have an opinion?
You did call his reply well-couched, which I took as a misspelling of well-coached. What did you mean by that?
Just a very carefully worded, nicely positioned reply, but it is a more precise meaning; I like big words as much as the next person. In an earlier post i used the word "lambasted". Perhaps I am over compensating formy atrocious typing, lol.

Although let me ask you, and Dom as well, really, since he thought I was saying that fora totally different reason; if I HAD been saying that (and I was not, to be clear) what would that have meant to you? Since that was the main point you took away from that discussion.
by S~V~S
Wed Feb 17, 2016 1:55 pm
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I think I have identified our log out issue!!

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No, seriously, right now there is not much I can do about the log out issue we are having. I have a few places to start, but can't do much at work (silly employers expect their concerns to come first :confused2: ).

For now clearing your board cookies (there is a link at the bottom of every forum page) and browser cookies seems to help a bit; it is happening less, but it still happens after doing that. With any luck it is just a server issue that will self resolve, but if it doesn't we will try to figure it out tonight.

Thanks for patience :nicenod:
by S~V~S
Wed Feb 17, 2016 2:26 pm
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sig wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
sig wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
sig wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:Let me make it clear right now that I refuse to support the lynch of a low poster.
Why?
Because in my experience that has never benefited the civ cause. Not once.
Do you think it is more common for the mafia to push for lynching low posters or to defend low posters?
It depends on the situation. You could have some mafia wanting to defend a low poster that they know is civ if everyone's going after them, and you can have some mafia wanting to lynch low posters if no one's going after them so that they can't really be blamed for the low posters flipping civ since there wasn't that much content to misinterpret. In a game like this with multiple factions and a ton of indys there's no telling, but in any case I don't think a low poster lynch will be beneficial. I think we want to go those who are talking more so that if we get a mafia there, we'll have lots of content to look for connections and create a domino effect for dead baddies. A low poster lynch, even if it's not a mislynch, only helps us with numbers slightly and always leaves us at square one for the scumhunt.
Okay I agree with you here, if a low poster has said something slightly suspicious then sure I'd be down for lynching them, but if they haven't it is a waste imo. If the player is completely inactive and never post they will either be mod killed or replaced so say lynching none posters is a waste.

I seem to remember Scotty pushing this in past games regardless of alignment?

@Scotty if you could choose which low poster got lynched today which one would it be and why?
Epignosis is famed for not modkilling.
by S~V~S
Wed Feb 17, 2016 4:37 pm
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How would someone be able to bring up stats to back up an opinion like that? While I don't agree that that is always bad, I do know that a lot of people believe it since I know *someone* always says that to me when I contrast my bad and good games.

Do you suspect Bass for thinking this?
by S~V~S
Wed Feb 17, 2016 5:36 pm
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Enrique wrote:btw they loved me :)
Yay!

Glorfindel wrote:
sig wrote:I'm null on Glorfindel right now, but have been pinged by him.
Have you now, my friend? Whilst I may not be familiar with the playstyles of a lot of people in this game, I am with yours. By you own admission (on multiple occasions) you have stated that you prefer to play Mafia and feel that you perform far better in such roles. From my experience, that is undeniably true. Looking to a recent example (Pikmin Mafia) where you were a Townie your performance was awful leading you to an early lynching that game. I'm not getting those vibes from you this game - I feel a pervading sense of self-assurance about your posts that concerns me a little. I'm not quite sure what to make of you persistent push to discuss the map... I'd be curious about other's opinions on Sig's posts so far.
Sig gets lynched day one like all the time. So far you are maybe the 4th person to bring him up as suspicious and it is only halfway through the day. I think this looks like civ sig to me :P

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