The Syndicate

This is me making a Mafia post from the top of the CN Tower, for some reason.

Oh jeez, I didn't realize last night we were just diving right into Day 1. I am currently in a foreign land (i'll give you three guesses where that is based on my first post), but I'm flying home tonight, so I probably won't be too engaged with this game at least until then. I apologize for this, fellow mafia players.

Black Rock wrote:
Sloonei wrote:This is me making a Mafia post from the top of the CN Tower, for some reason.
What you doing there?

My girlfriend is a real authentic Canadian lady, and I'm visiting her for her birthday this week. She has been trying to drag me up there for a long time despite my very silly fear of heights. Yesterday that finally happened. I've had time to get caught up on everything this morning because, as an authentic lady, she spends over an hour getting herself ready in the morning.

The Luffy Dragon has been all over the place in agreeing with every plan or strategy that's been proposed in the thread. This has caught my eye. I'll put my first vote on Dragon D. Luffy until he explains why he's so easy to convince.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:I haven't been convinced of anything yet. On the contrary, I'm weighing every upside and downside and trying to come up with a conclusion. I'm still not sure whether Wilgy's first plan is a good one or not. Though with the second plan I'm leaning more on believing it won't work pratically.

What are your own thoughts on the subject? And also, what are your thoughts on the game beyond what to do or not do about traitors?

Black Rock wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Black Rock wrote:
Sloonei wrote:This is me making a Mafia post from the top of the CN Tower, for some reason.
What you doing there?
My girlfriend is a real authentic Canadian lady, and I'm visiting her for her birthday this week. She has been trying to drag me up there for a long time despite my very silly fear of heights. Yesterday that finally happened. I've had time to get caught up on everything this morning because, as an authentic lady, she spends over an hour getting herself ready in the morning.
Well welcome to Canada. You're near my neck of the woods.

it's a lovely place, i'm here pretty often.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:With that, a few points.

- Enrique has posted nothing but smilies and refuses to answer anything. I don't think this is enough for a lynch, but I wish he started being more helpfun soon.

- Ika made a vote for Silverwolf just for the sake of "getting her to talk". Which is pro-active, but not really necessary, and reeks to me of an attempt to look like he is doing anything. Of course it's mostly paranoia, but I might as well point it out.

- Sloonei doesn't have the time to participate but he apparently has time to read the thread, think I'm suspicious and demand answers from me. I find that curious.

- Matt was way more active last game I played with him. he couldn't shut up. Now he only made one post, about how he intends to read Zebra. I know this is too soon for make such demands, but I miss active Matt.

Don't know if any of those are useful but we might as well discuss them. 28 hours to go, let's move guys.

My behavior is curious in that I am curious about the game, sure. I'm not sure what else you could mean by that.

Diiny wrote:You know exactly what he means but you disagree, why pretend otherwise?

Perhaps I was feigning aloofness.

Soneji's name is too similar to mine, this game is hard.

Serge wrote:Hello everyone, I'm Serge.

The traitor thing could theoretically work if everyone votes for everyone in the first day but how would that even be noticed by the moderators? Would we need to post our votes in the thread for this to kick in?

The effect of this would eventually level the playing field of both families if it works out, but still a traitor in the family could be an advantage or a disadvantage that could turn the tide.

Logistics of setting and executing this up is improbable, so I think it won't work.

With the numbers between the families I think we should first focus on scumhunting.

Hello Serge, I am Sloonei. Let's talk about Other Things. Which players have stood out to you in the thread so far, and for what reasons?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:With that, a few points.

- Enrique has posted nothing but smilies and refuses to answer anything. I don't think this is enough for a lynch, but I wish he started being more helpfun soon.

- Ika made a vote for Silverwolf just for the sake of "getting her to talk". Which is pro-active, but not really necessary, and reeks to me of an attempt to look like he is doing anything. Of course it's mostly paranoia, but I might as well point it out.

- Sloonei doesn't have the time to participate but he apparently has time to read the thread, think I'm suspicious and demand answers from me. I find that curious.

- Matt was way more active last game I played with him. he couldn't shut up. Now he only made one post, about how he intends to read Zebra. I know this is too soon for make such demands, but I miss active Matt.

Don't know if any of those are useful but we might as well discuss them. 28 hours to go, let's move guys.
My behavior is curious in that I am curious about the game, sure. I'm not sure what else you could mean by that.
Point is that you seem to be having a lot more time to be active than initially implied.

Not a very strong tell either, though. But I felt like pointing it out.

I am normally much more active than I have been. I've been traveling all day and will be home soon. 4 or 5 small comments on Day 1 is low activity for me.

Diiny wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Diiny wrote:You know exactly what he means but you disagree, why pretend otherwise?
Perhaps I was feigning aloofness.
For what purpose?

Game-related ones. What sort of information are you hoping to get out of this line of questioning?

Diiny wrote:Silverwolf, are you giving your friend advice because you think they're town or are you saying you think they're scummy?

Linki: a read on you.

Thoughts so far?

agleaminranks wrote:Luffy's been making a lot of discussion. I wanna quickly mention this notion I think he and Wilgy co-formulated a few pages back:

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I wish I understood what this plan was so I could go ahead and tell you all how foolish it is.
I'll summarize:

Assumption: Don doesn't want to change votes often because that increases the probability of voting for the traitor.
I don't think this assumption holds any water, especially this early in the game. Given that he or she knows who their crew is and no one else, no matter if he or she sticks to one vote or hops back and forth several times, with no other considerations at this time, he or she is just as likely as not to choose a traitor.

I don't have a ton of considerations at this point. In my experience, the people who garner the most conversation early in the games either do so unwittingly (not really the case here) or are confident enough not to worry if the lynch votes pile up. Hmm.

Are you saying the Don(s) know their own team members? Or the traitor(s)? Because I don't think either is true, unless I missed something.

Quin wrote:I'm going to go with my strategy (which I also urge other people to follow) and 'unofficially' vote ika.

I find it curious that ika would come into the thread in the middle of a discussion about how we should tackle the traitor/don problem and completely ignore the current strategies proposed and just throw a vote where it went. On top of that, there was no elaboration to his vote at all, and he hadn't even posted in the thread until I called him out on her vote. I feel like everything he has said since has been an excuse.

@agle I don't think the don knows who the capo/crew are. Just the consigliere. From what I gather it's all done via PM's to the family's host.

There has been too much focus on the don/traitor thing. That's a minor concern at best. I see no problem with ika's behavior as you described it.

agleaminranks wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
agleaminranks wrote:Luffy's been making a lot of discussion. I wanna quickly mention this notion I think he and Wilgy co-formulated a few pages back:

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I wish I understood what this plan was so I could go ahead and tell you all how foolish it is.
I'll summarize:

Assumption: Don doesn't want to change votes often because that increases the probability of voting for the traitor.
I don't think this assumption holds any water, especially this early in the game. Given that he or she knows who their crew is and no one else, no matter if he or she sticks to one vote or hops back and forth several times, with no other considerations at this time, he or she is just as likely as not to choose a traitor.

I don't have a ton of considerations at this point. In my experience, the people who garner the most conversation early in the games either do so unwittingly (not really the case here) or are confident enough not to worry if the lynch votes pile up. Hmm.
Are you saying the Don(s) know their own team members? Or the traitor(s)? Because I don't think either is true, unless I missed something.
No, I'm just saying that strategically there is no reason for the Don to either be restrained or wild with pre-official votes since it has no statistical significance at this point in the game. Luffy was suggesting that the Don would want to be more restrained in voting to avoid accidentally voting for the traitor and that everyone else should structure their unofficial votes accordingly, but I don't think that's really a valid concern.

So what did you mean by "he or she knows who their crew is and no one else"?

I agree with the rest of what you're saying. I think a player's voting habits will be determined by the player themselves, and not their role.

Quin wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Quin wrote:I'm going to go with my strategy (which I also urge other people to follow) and 'unofficially' vote ika.

I find it curious that ika would come into the thread in the middle of a discussion about how we should tackle the traitor/don problem and completely ignore the current strategies proposed and just throw a vote where it went. On top of that, there was no elaboration to his vote at all, and he hadn't even posted in the thread until I called him out on her vote. I feel like everything he has said since has been an excuse.

@agle I don't think the don knows who the capo/crew are. Just the consigliere. From what I gather it's all done via PM's to the family's host.
There has been too much focus on the don/traitor thing. That's a minor concern at best. I see no problem with ika's behavior as you described it.
At day 1 I think we should be addressing even the minor concerns. I'm aware that in the long run the traitors are going to be triggered regardless, but even so, I think we should be trying to delay that risk for the safety of the dons.

I've got no problem with it being addressed, but I think the proposals being made in the thread were over-reactions to a very minor point and there is no need to continue discussing it beyond what has been said. So I should stop saying things about it now.
How's your first Big Game going so far?

I am home now and on my own laptop, but I am also very very tired. And I have another game that I'm supposed to be giving attention to right now. Plus life. I'll probably continue to float around here until I fall asleep though.

Quin wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Quin wrote:
At day 1 I think we should be addressing even the minor concerns. I'm aware that in the long run the traitors are going to be triggered regardless, but even so, I think we should be trying to delay that risk for the safety of the dons.
I've got no problem with it being addressed, but I think the proposals being made in the thread were over-reactions to a very minor point and there is no need to continue discussing it beyond what has been said. So I should stop saying things about it now.
How's your first Big Game going so far?
I feel like this game could go on for weeks, I'm curious to see how the dynamic changes over such a long period.

How are things at this beginning period, though? Which players have caught your eye?

Quin wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Quin wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Quin wrote:
At day 1 I think we should be addressing even the minor concerns. I'm aware that in the long run the traitors are going to be triggered regardless, but even so, I think we should be trying to delay that risk for the safety of the dons.
I've got no problem with it being addressed, but I think the proposals being made in the thread were over-reactions to a very minor point and there is no need to continue discussing it beyond what has been said. So I should stop saying things about it now.
How's your first Big Game going so far?
I feel like this game could go on for weeks, I'm curious to see how the dynamic changes over such a long period.
How are things at this beginning period, though? Which players have caught your eye?
ika, for reasons I have previously stated.

Wilgy has also caught my eye for his abnormal posts. Someone called him out on it before, but the 'oink's he is shoving into his posts are just really...weird. My initial thoughts were that he is one of the capo/crew and his mission is to present himself as scum in his posts, but I need to dwell on that further. At this point it is a leaning town read, but I am also really confused by him.

Wilgy will never not be confusing, this is normal. It doesn't say anything about his alignment, so I'm in the same boat as you.

Mongoose wrote:
agleaminranks wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I'm taking my vote off Long Con. I wouldn't want anyone to think that I suspect him.

agleaminranks, come say something.
Hiii, I'm trying to catch up on the posts so far. I didn't get a chance to read through it yet because I just started my new job today as an afterschool math and physics tutor. I'll have something solid to go on in the next few hours hopefully~

Oh wow, imagine seeing you in these parts!

In other news, I think it's transcendent that we are having the Voting a Non-Participant discussion again, and on my first day back!. Historically, I am very fond of this tactic (that is, in the absence of anything meatier -we've certainly had meat in the room on day 1, so to speak).

This post just caught my eye. I acknowledge that Mongoose has expressed some pretty legitimate reasons to not be active thus far, but when a player goes out of their way to express both of the thoughts expressed in the bottom paragraph, and then doesn't provide the thread with any meat herself, I can't help but see it as a player who is potentially trying to fluff up their own posts by spouting pro-town sentiments without actually contributing anything to the townie cause. Or the family cause. or whatever.
Putting my vote on Mongoose and then passing out.

i should stress that that's mostly a pressure vote. I want Mongoose to give us meat. Meat me in the thread, Mongoose!

Epignosis wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Mongoose wrote:
agleaminranks wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I'm taking my vote off Long Con. I wouldn't want anyone to think that I suspect him.

agleaminranks, come say something.
Hiii, I'm trying to catch up on the posts so far. I didn't get a chance to read through it yet because I just started my new job today as an afterschool math and physics tutor. I'll have something solid to go on in the next few hours hopefully~

Oh wow, imagine seeing you in these parts!

In other news, I think it's transcendent that we are having the Voting a Non-Participant discussion again, and on my first day back!. Historically, I am very fond of this tactic (that is, in the absence of anything meatier -we've certainly had meat in the room on day 1, so to speak).
This post just caught my eye. I acknowledge that Mongoose has expressed some pretty legitimate reasons to not be active thus far, but when a player goes out of their way to express both of the thoughts expressed in the bottom paragraph, and then doesn't provide the thread with any meat herself, I can't help but see it as a player who is potentially trying to fluff up their own posts by spouting pro-town sentiments without actually contributing anything to the townie cause. Or the family cause. or whatever.
Putting my vote on Mongoose and then passing out.
Ooh. Now I have a reason to vote for somebody.

Someone ask me why Sloonei is bad.

this again?

Epignosis wrote:
Enrique wrote:whys sloonei bad mr nosis
Mongoose does what Sloonei accused her of. All the time. And I have missed Mongoose something fierce.

Never have I ever played in a game with Mongoose.

Epignosis wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Enrique wrote:whys sloonei bad mr nosis
Mongoose does what Sloonei accused her of. All the time. And I have missed Mongoose something fierce.
Never have I ever played in a game with Mongoose.
I know. She's a peach.

I'm going to bed. I'll move my vote off you then if I'm satisfied with your apology for suspecting Mongoose.

I didn't know mongooses came in peach.

I will not be apologizing or moving my vote off her until/unless she responds. Or else it would have been an entirely pointless exercise. But I certainly don't intend on that being my final vote.

ika wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:
ika wrote:
Diiny wrote:@ika

If you said anything before you were called out on it, whether you voted first or after, I wouldn't mind as much, but this way it looks like that's just the excuse you came up with for that vote. Get where I'm coming from?

Yes and all I can say is that it's a NAI thing. Any game me and silver play my first vote will always be going to her and most if not all my posts will be addressed at her till I sort her.

If you still think the same then I don't got much else to say.

I'm still mobile so I might be around tonight
ika-the best way for you to sort me is to interact with me or ask me questions. Voting me and saying you want to sort me just looks like busy work. I know you think I had questions about the setup but I think I've got them all answered now. Do you have a read on anyone else based on what's been posted so far?
Not 100% i have been busy as you know so i have not had time to read proper and might not for day 1. I do have to ask then, are you town? I also wanted to ask if you had any reads. i like to use them as anchor points form you espicaly cus i know i can trust you if you are town

What is the point of asking silverworlf, or any player at all, if they are town? Also if silverwolf is the player you feel you can read the best, why are you focusing so much on her? Shouldn't you work on the players you can't read so well?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:
Sloonei wrote:I will not be apologizing or moving my vote off her until/unless she responds. Or else it would have been an entirely pointless exercise. But I certainly don't intend on that being my final vote.
This post was fine until the last sentence. Pressure votes are cool. Pressure votes where you promise you won't be voting for the person at the end of the day are completely pointless. Why should anyone take them seriously?

because they're there. I am not saying I definitely won't end up voting for Mongoose today, but that vote that I cast last night was not cast with a Final Vote mindset.

Serge wrote:By the way I think someone and someone asked something from me, pardon me but I don't have a clear head right now, I'm still trying to identify everyone as everyone is new to me as I am new to everyone. Maybe I should start taking notes? (rhetorical)

I just asked you to share any thoughts you have on the game, so this is fine. Whenever you're ready

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Some one liners that pinged me:

sprityo wrote:Day zero is for policemen!

linki-that is in fact, and idea, that is good, yes

Tranq wrote:
Scotty wrote:I will bet my [hopefully] unborn child that the 30 person coordinated vote will not work out. There will be too many no-shows. There always is in these games.
No-shows could get replaced. I see no harm in trying Wilgy's plan. For science!
Both those guys only posted that. Nothing wrong with speculating on Wilgy's plan, but they haven't posted anything else yet. Could be a very easy way to blend in.

Spirityo has been equally quiet in Rocky and Bullwinkle. We don't know his alignment in either game, of course.

ika wrote:
Sloonei wrote:What is the point of asking silverworlf, or any player at all, if they are town? Also if silverwolf is the player you feel you can read the best, why are you focusing so much on her? Shouldn't you work on the players you can't read so well?
Reactoins, reads, what they say. I mean theres like endless reasons to ask it in general. To undertsand ym you first need to knwo i need a person i can talk to and trust. silver is the only person here i knwo and i can read acurately. So if shes scum i push her hard to get her lynched. If shes town we have the ultimate syagery and can decimate scums.

Players i cant read so well (aka everyone else) im not trying to sort on a day 1 phase. it would be more around mid/late day 2/day 3 where i try to do so

What if I told you you have to take a stab at reading somebody else? Is there anyone in this thread so far that you have an opinion on, good or bad, besides solverwolf? I do not like that you say you are "not trying to sort" the rest of us on Day 1. Seems like a... cop-out.

Golden wrote:
Diiny wrote:Reading back, I'll also extend that question to Golden, who posted a lot about the setup/plan but not much about players which research shows is a tad out of character.
I hadn't bothered reading much of the thread. I've just sat down to do my first read through now. I am getting quite a few non-null reads. Unless something happens to change my mind, I won't be voting for LC, DDL, sloonei, mongoose, epi, SVS or silverwolf. I don't really have much in the way of pings yet, but I'll see where I'm at when I'm caught up.

The reads I'm most interested in here are mongoose, SVS, and myself. Epi has said Mongoose doesnwhat she's done so far in every game, so I guess other familiar players might also express that. But I've seen nothing remotely definitive from SVS. And then me because I'm always interested in myself. That guy's really something.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:I don't know exactly why but something feels off about Golden. LIke he is trying to look pro-active but actually just staying in the sidelines. And also he is being really friendly and diplomatic, don't remember if he is always like that.

I'm not lynching him on Day 1 though. I have a perfect 0% success rate at reading Golden's alignment. Too soon to try that again.

I've got no problem with a player sharing town reads, as I always say that town reads are just as important as scum reads in this game, but for a player to come out with that many town reads before any scum reads certainly is unusual.

S~V~S wrote:
Golden wrote:
Quin wrote:@agle I don't think the don knows who the capo/crew are. Just the consigliere. From what I gather it's all done via PM's to the family's host.
Didn't understand this, so went and checked the roles. I figure what you mean is that the don only knows who the consigliere is. It looks like the consigliere has btsc with the don, but neither know who the capo/crew are. Perhaps the don is able to invent a mission to figure it out, though?
This would be my guess. Wow this was a lot of talking for a no day zero day one.

Sloonei wrote:
Golden wrote:
Diiny wrote:Reading back, I'll also extend that question to Golden, who posted a lot about the setup/plan but not much about players which research shows is a tad out of character.
I hadn't bothered reading much of the thread. I've just sat down to do my first read through now. I am getting quite a few non-null reads. Unless something happens to change my mind, I won't be voting for LC, DDL, sloonei, mongoose, epi, SVS or silverwolf. I don't really have much in the way of pings yet, but I'll see where I'm at when I'm caught up.
The reads I'm most interested in here are mongoose, SVS, and myself. Epi has said Mongoose doesnwhat she's done so far in every game, so I guess other familiar players might also express that. But I've seen nothing remotely definitive from SVS. And then me because I'm always interested in myself. That guy's really something.
I will do my best. Usually Day Ones are quiet without a Day Zero since we never developed things like RVS since we had unchangeable votes until more recently.

I am just responding to the last few posts (one of which conveniently mentioned me) and plan to read back. Anything you specifically wish me to comment on, or is this a generalization? Although looking at the avatars, for the most part, with a few notable exceptions, *most* of the talking seems to be non-natives, so why did you single me out for an opinion?

Linki,and why is that, Wilgy?

oh, sorry I wasn't looking for anythint specifically from you. I was trying to get Golden to explain his read on you. But I look forward to hearing any thoughts you have about anything.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:I don't know exactly why but something feels off about Golden. LIke he is trying to look pro-active but actually just staying in the sidelines. And also he is being really friendly and diplomatic, don't remember if he is always like that.

I'm not lynching him on Day 1 though. I have a perfect 0% success rate at reading Golden's alignment. Too soon to try that again.
I've got no problem with a player sharing town reads, as I always say that town reads are just as important as scum reads in this game, but for a player to come out with that many town reads before any scum reads certainly is unusual.
He could be building those reads along the whole phase. Not that unlikely.

But the way he presented them remind me a lot of when I'm trying to look like I have reads when I'm just making shit up.

Yes, I need to see how his reads develop before I can make a judgment.

But also I got more of "look like I have reads when I'm just making shit up" vibe from a couple of Diiny's larger posts. What do you think of him? I apologize if you've already shared your thoughts and I simply missed it.

S~V~S wrote:OH, OK. Did he ever explain, I have not gotten that far.

He did not, these developments are all recent.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:I don't know exactly why but something feels off about Golden. LIke he is trying to look pro-active but actually just staying in the sidelines. And also he is being really friendly and diplomatic, don't remember if he is always like that.

I'm not lynching him on Day 1 though. I have a perfect 0% success rate at reading Golden's alignment. Too soon to try that again.
I've got no problem with a player sharing town reads, as I always say that town reads are just as important as scum reads in this game, but for a player to come out with that many town reads before any scum reads certainly is unusual.
He could be building those reads along the whole phase. Not that unlikely.

But the way he presented them remind me a lot of when I'm trying to look like I have reads when I'm just making shit up.
Yes, I need to see how his reads develop before I can make a judgment.

But also I got more of "look like I have reads when I'm just making shit up" vibe from a couple of Diiny's larger posts. What do you think of him? I apologize if you've already shared your thoughts and I simply missed it.
I dunno. He is very pro-active, chasing players around and forcing answers from them. His reads have mostly been people who were suspected by others before though, so he could be sheeping.Also some votes seemed forced. But some players just have an aggressive style, so that could mean nothing.

This is my biggest concern as well. I didn't feel like he brought anything new to the table in any of his big posts. I'm not ready to put a vote on him yet, and I've played enough games with diiny to know what he's capable of as a townie, but it's something I'm keeping an eye on. I've seen him start off like this and then turn it into a genuine supertown effort a few days later.

I've not gotten any bad vibes from Nero this time around.

S~V~S wrote:
I am going to drop a vote on Gleam for now, he made a lot of assumptions based on incorrect role reads, then backtracked them, and if you cancel all that out, he made a lot of posts comparative to others at this early stage, but did not say much.

I am also considering putting a vote on Gleam for similar reasons.

I was also pinged by Diiny, specifically where he says Goldens post content =/= what research led him to expect. Research? What kind of research? Has he done this research on other people, or just Golden? To me this kind of comment reads as "research = told by BTSC partner". But we have civ BTS in this game, and I don't want to drop a third vote on the guy for a weak ping. Those who know him, is this kind of research something Diiny typically does?

Diiny wrote:Reading back, I'll also extend that question to Golden, who posted a lot about the setup/plan but not much about players which research shows is a tad out of character.

I think by "research" Diiny just means "past experience". He's played with Golden a number of times, both here and on RYM, so he seems to just be noting something that he's marked as a change in Golden's character. I can't say I know exactly what he means though, I don't remember Golden ever being opposed to discussing the setup and mechanics of a game.

Scotty wrote:
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:
Scotty wrote:Wow. Everyone checked in. I'm impressed.
Everyone except Chaindeath.

He is lurking, but no posts yet.
Oh! Damn, I missed him. Good catch!

Voting chaindeath

Why the vote?

Fair deal, and I understand the thought process behind this strategy.

If I forced you to name a suspect from the pool of active players, who would you choose?

Scotty wrote:
Sloonei wrote:Fair deal, and I understand the thought process behind this strategy.

If I forced you to name a suspect from the pool of active players, who would you choose?
Define active. I'm not suspicious of anyone specifically, but if I had to pick 2 people, it would be Tranq' and agleaminranks for her backtracking she exhibited earlier.

Active (adj.): Used to describe every player who you would not consider a low-poster.

@ SVS: RYM games aren't vanilla by any means, but so far in my experience on the Syndicate you guys tend to be a bit more creative than we do with roles and things. Plus most of our games have closed setups, so no one knows what's in the game, and speculation can be dangerous at that point. But we still do talk about those things fairly often. Like I said, I'm not entirely sure what Diiny was referring to there.

Hey chaindeath, thanks for joining us. And also thanks in advance for sharing those reasons for why you voted Long Con.

Nerolunar wrote:
chaindeath wrote:He is so good at typing.... He didn't do it properly and he offers his sincerest apologies. Long Con
This looks somewhat sheepish to me.

Why does typing mistakes and then apologising for it indicate baddie alignment? Chain I would like you to explain too. I see nothing scummy in LC´s behavior so far.

I think chain is referring to his own typing error here, not Long Con's.
But yes, I would also like to know what he sees in Long Con.

Right now I think gleam is most likely to receive my vote unless something changes. We've still got four hours, but I've only got two until I have to leave for work.

agleaminranks wrote:The only other suspicions I have so far are about llama, I know they said they were out of town but they never explained their vote either. And sloonei, who has only really been asking coy questions and agreeing with whatever the popular opinion seems to be of the time.

Asking questions is my thing. What popular opinions have I been in agreement with? My vote is currently on a player no one else wants to lynch and I've been a vocal opponent to the traitor/don discussion.

There's another player I meant to call out yesterday but then I fell asleep. I'm awake right now, so let's all look at Bullzeye's posts and count the number of serious game-related things he's said.

Golden wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Golden wrote:
Diiny wrote:Reading back, I'll also extend that question to Golden, who posted a lot about the setup/plan but not much about players which research shows is a tad out of character.
I hadn't bothered reading much of the thread. I've just sat down to do my first read through now. I am getting quite a few non-null reads. Unless something happens to change my mind, I won't be voting for LC, DDL, sloonei, mongoose, epi, SVS or silverwolf. I don't really have much in the way of pings yet, but I'll see where I'm at when I'm caught up.
The reads I'm most interested in here are mongoose, SVS, and myself. Epi has said Mongoose doesnwhat she's done so far in every game, so I guess other familiar players might also express that. But I've seen nothing remotely definitive from SVS. And then me because I'm always interested in myself. That guy's really something.
I get good vibes from you all. SVS willingness to try Wilgy's plan in particular felt civvish SVS to me, I don't know Mongoose or Silverwolf at all so with the pair of them it is all tone. You, I like the effort you are putting in despite being in Canada, it reminds me of civ Sloonei. Although I've been fooled into defending you hard before (Watchmen )

I am back in America now, unfortunately. I am willing to take everyone else's word for it when they say Mongoose's behavior is ordinary so far, but I don't think "ordinary" means the same as townie/civ. I'd like to put my vote elsewhere but I'm struggling to come up with a better option.

What do you think of Gleam?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:
Sloonei wrote:There's another player I meant to call out yesterday but then I fell asleep. I'm awake right now, so let's all look at Bullzeye's posts and count the number of serious game-related things he's said.
I noticed, but that's basically a series of Day 0 posts. Won't suspect anyone for that. I need to see more.

Agreed, that's essentially why I'm pointing it out. I want him to say something.

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