The Syndicate

Quin wrote:What's with the Silverwolf vote, ika?

Cus she is the first person I want to sort. I am on break but I want to make sure she knows i want to talk to her

Silverwolf wrote:Hi all!!

Brand new here, first game so don't be too rough on me yet.

ika-Hi, How's it going? How do you think voting for me will help sort me?

That said, I've gotta read the game and the set-up again so...........I'll be back when I've done that.

It got your attention so we can talk.

what about the setup do you not understand

Diiny wrote:Ika voting for someone to 'get their attention' with no attempted communication in the thread beforehand is strange.

Ika, why didn't you just post first?

Cus the order wouldn't matter would it? I mean if I posted to her first then voted does that make a diffence?

I'm mobile posting so if it doesn't make sense let me know

@luffy: we don't talk about me anymore. But it has been a trait of ours to vote each other and sort each other out. So far I have been able to read her accurately every game in the first few oages

Diiny wrote:@ika

If you said anything before you were called out on it, whether you voted first or after, I wouldn't mind as much, but this way it looks like that's just the excuse you came up with for that vote. Get where I'm coming from?

Yes and all I can say is that it's a NAI thing. Any game me and silver play my first vote will always be going to her and most if not all my posts will be addressed at her till I sort her.

If you still think the same then I don't got much else to say.

I'm still mobile so I might be around tonight

Nerolunar wrote:
ika wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:Hi all!!

Brand new here, first game so don't be too rough on me yet.

ika-Hi, How's it going? How do you think voting for me will help sort me?

That said, I've gotta read the game and the set-up again so...........I'll be back when I've done that.
It got your attention so we can talk.

what about the setup do you not understand
I believe she just had to read it again to remember correctly. I know I had to read all of it 3 times before I could remember all the roles. Welcome Silverwolf

Why do we want to trigger the traitors? Can´t we just hunt for baddies? I don´t see why its beneficial

I dont try to rememebr the role i try to find sucm. Why do you try to remeber them all?

im at home so im catching up

Silverwolf wrote:
ika wrote:
Diiny wrote:@ika

If you said anything before you were called out on it, whether you voted first or after, I wouldn't mind as much, but this way it looks like that's just the excuse you came up with for that vote. Get where I'm coming from?

Yes and all I can say is that it's a NAI thing. Any game me and silver play my first vote will always be going to her and most if not all my posts will be addressed at her till I sort her.

If you still think the same then I don't got much else to say.

I'm still mobile so I might be around tonight
ika-the best way for you to sort me is to interact with me or ask me questions. Voting me and saying you want to sort me just looks like busy work. I know you think I had questions about the setup but I think I've got them all answered now. Do you have a read on anyone else based on what's been posted so far?

Not 100% i have been busy as you know so i have not had time to read proper and might not for day 1. I do have to ask then, are you town? I also wanted to ask if you had any reads. i like to use them as anchor points form you espicaly cus i know i can trust you if you are town

Quin wrote:I'm going to go with my strategy (which I also urge other people to follow) and 'unofficially' vote ika.

I find it curious that ika would come into the thread in the middle of a discussion about how we should tackle the traitor/don problem and completely ignore the current strategies proposed and just throw a vote where it went. On top of that, there was no elaboration to his vote at all, and he hadn't even posted in the thread until I called him out on her vote. I feel like everything he has said since has been an excuse.

@agle I don't think the don knows who the capo/crew are. Just the consigliere. From what I gather it's all done via PM's to the family's host.

Well considering this is how i would act regarless of alignment and that i have not read any of the dicussion proper yet. I fid your point to be very weak.

I mean im not trying to exuse it at all. its jsut a NAI thing as i have said. If i had the time to read the discussion proper i prob would of said "how about we lynch the cops first and worry about the opposing families later".

To me, dicussiong something that is not about scums or them or anything that would lead to it (FMPOV granted, maybe people get reads off it sometime, i do but i haveent read granted or plays a setup liek this) so theres my 2 cents on it. Basicly sucm have no reason to really dicuss it other then to agree/disagree

Sloonei wrote:snip

What is the point of asking silverworlf, or any player at all, if they are town? Also if silverwolf is the player you feel you can read the best, why are you focusing so much on her? Shouldn't you work on the players you can't read so well?[/quote]

Reactoins, reads, what they say. I mean theres like endless reasons to ask it in general. To undertsand ym you first need to knwo i need a person i can talk to and trust. silver is the only person here i knwo and i can read acurately. So if shes scum i push her hard to get her lynched. If shes town we have the ultimate syagery and can decimate scums.

Players i cant read so well (aka everyone else) im not trying to sort on a day 1 phase. it would be more around mid/late day 2/day 3 where i try to do so

Nerolunar wrote:
What are you going to do if Silverwolf appears to you as town? Who are you going to vote for today if you don´t have any reads?

@ Matt I agree that is strange. But is it alignment indicative? I don´t think so.

wh i always do: work with her and sort out reads that we cant agree on and try to make a cohesive town bloc of players. i would prob go isoing then and read people to see what i cna find if i sort her

Silverwolf wrote:snip

Yes, I am but I'm wondering what other answer you expect me to give to this question? I am gonna have a tough time getting reads for now. This is my first game here and first game with all these nice people. So I'm gonna have to just follow and see what catches my eye. I might be slower to develop reads at first.

Maybe a scum claim? Or some elaborate ruse about how you want to be town and how you are not. That is fine with me I was plannign on trying to read this overnight or something and try to pinpoint like 2-3 people at a time. Out of the lsit of the players is there anyone you want to look at spcificly?

So far I see a lot of setup spec, particularly what should be done about the traitor role and voting in a way to protect the Dons. I guess I can see merit in everyone voting everyone if we can get enough people here to go along with it. But I'd prefer just to try to police hunt right now. I'm also not following all that close so need to go catch up.

and now you are town, this is exactly my thought process as well, i said earlier that we eliminate police then worry about the fimly crap

I think I'm gonna have to go through and take some notes. I have no clue who to vote for right now either.

votefor me for lolz/omgus?

ika wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:snip

Yes, I am but I'm wondering what other answer you expect me to give to this question? I am gonna have a tough time getting reads for now. This is my first game here and first game with all these nice people. So I'm gonna have to just follow and see what catches my eye. I might be slower to develop reads at first.

Maybe a scum claim? Or some elaborate ruse about how you want to be town and how you are not. That is fine with me I was plannign on trying to read this overnight or something and try to pinpoint like 2-3 people at a time. Out of the lsit of the players is there anyone you want to look at spcificly?

So far I see a lot of setup spec, particularly what should be done about the traitor role and voting in a way to protect the Dons. I guess I can see merit in everyone voting everyone if we can get enough people here to go along with it. But I'd prefer just to try to police hunt right now. I'm also not following all that close so need to go catch up.

and now you are town, this is exactly my thought process as well, i said earlier that we eliminate police then worry about the fimly crap

I think I'm gonna have to go through and take some notes. I have no clue who to vote for right now either.
votefor me for lolz/omgus?

ok so bolding doesnt work

Nerolunar wrote:
ika wrote:
Nerolunar wrote:
What are you going to do if Silverwolf appears to you as town? Who are you going to vote for today if you don´t have any reads?

@ Matt I agree that is strange. But is it alignment indicative? I don´t think so.
wh i always do: work with her and sort out reads that we cant agree on and try to make a cohesive town bloc of players. i would prob go isoing then and read people to see what i cna find if i sort her
So you are developing reads? Just before you said you weren´t going to make reads on people day 1 But thanks for clarifying.

I like that you and Silverwolf can cooperate like this, provided that both of you are good. I will keep an eye on you Could very well be that both of you are baddies.

Well devolping reads on people to me means more then one person. So *shrugs*

Silverwolf wrote:
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Ika and SW come from mafiascum. Though I've never played there, their site seems to have a strong focus on vanilla games, from what I've seen in their wiki.
Yeah, that sounds about right. I don't have a lot of experience in a game like this.

TO further elaborate, i come form sc2mafia where we have role madness games like these so im more used to it

That being said i do have to get in the shower ot get read for work

Ok im home i will be reading shorty.

Can someone tell me if we are allowed to talk game or not? im not used to being able to talk at night

Golden wrote:
ika wrote:Ok im home i will be reading shorty.

Can someone tell me if we are allowed to talk game or not? im not used to being able to talk at night
The general rule here is that you can talk game at night. Unless the rules specify otherwise.

Sweet!

Im gonna try to do some isoing does anyone have anyone spcific thatthey want em to see

DrWilgy wrote:
ika wrote:
Golden wrote:
ika wrote:Ok im home i will be reading shorty.

Can someone tell me if we are allowed to talk game or not? im not used to being able to talk at night
The general rule here is that you can talk game at night. Unless the rules specify otherwise.
Sweet!

Im gonna try to do some isoing does anyone have anyone spcific thatthey want em to see
ISO me Ika.

mkay one min

thellama73 wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:Also, if ika doesn't do anything D2, he should be lynched.
Do you think his inactivity makes him likely to be a cop?

Usually.

I'm out at poker getting drunk. So I'll get to this when I have a magaeita in me

Silverwolf wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:Also, if ika doesn't do anything D2, he should be lynched.
Do you think his inactivity makes him likely to be a cop?
Yes, inactivity plus an inability to give good reads so this is something to push him on.

ika-any reads?

Not really. I'm drunk atm.

Reads at this site would prob be NAI cus I dunno ppl

I LOVE YOU!

Silverwolf wrote:
ika wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:Also, if ika doesn't do anything D2, he should be lynched.
Do you think his inactivity makes him likely to be a cop?
Yes, inactivity plus an inability to give good reads so this is something to push him on.

ika-any reads?
Not really. I'm drunk atm.

Reads at this site would prob be NAI cus I dunno ppl

I LOVE YOU!
How about on me?

I belive I already said you were town.

Maybe a dunk ISO will help? Who do you have trouble reading maybe I can help. I still owe dr an ISO read too iirc

Wait......

Silver......

no nvm....

It's NAI if you didn't respond to it cus you did it as scum

Silverwolf wrote:
ika wrote:It's NAI if you didn't respond to it cus you did it as scum
Clarify?

I said I love you. I expected you to see that out of everything. But I know you responded to it as scum. Maybe it's a tow tell?

agleaminranks wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:
agleaminranks wrote:
agleaminranks wrote:Silverwolf, if I can interject, you've been about as inactive as ika has throughout the game. In fact, Ika has made more posts than you have in this game so far: 19 to your 13. You've not offered any single reads on any people yet apart from ika, whom you seemed very preoccupied on from the start. You pandered for their participation in your very first post, just as a response to their vote. You also addressed Golden but with very little interaction.

Can I ask why you're pushing so hard for ika's participation and lynching when you aren't even performing to the standards you're asking for?
EBWOP, you also have neglected to answer why you're voting for me out of nowhere.
I don't like the tone of your posts. They ping.
Nor I yours. Also, as someone with whom I had not interacted with whatsoever prior to this day period, and vice versa, you voted for me without any reasoning given, immediately following two people who had voted for me the previous day and had already stated their reasoning quite often.

You either have some reason for doing so (which you have yet to divulge, by the way. Is it unfair for me to ask that of you?), you saw a bandwagon forming and wanted to hop on while you could (generally a scummy tactic), or you're just going to vote and not give any explanation whatsoever and hope it flies, which is another scummy thing to do. All around, you're acting very scummy and you've moved to the very top of my list. I'm still going to pursue the Wilgy route, but some things you've been doing have been feeling awfully police-like to me.

Show me post that you dislike. I feel like your just thinly OMGUSing her with that long post of words with nothing to back it up

Silverwolf wrote:
ika wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:
ika wrote:It's NAI if you didn't respond to it cus you did it as scum
Clarify?

I said I love you. I expected you to see that out of everything. But I know you responded to it as scum. Maybe it's a tow tell?
I responded to it as scum, cuz I was buddying you at the time.

Does that mean you don't love me?

*sobs*

2 things:

1) it's not off topic at all, we lithely sort eah other by this kind of posting

2) in sober enough to know what I'm saying

Silverwolf wrote:
ika wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:
ika wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:
ika wrote:It's NAI if you didn't respond to it cus you did it as scum
Clarify?

I said I love you. I expected you to see that out of everything. But I know you responded to it as scum. Maybe it's a tow tell?
I responded to it as scum, cuz I was buddying you at the time.
Does that mean you don't love me?

*sobs*
Oh dear lord. You already know the answer to that question. You're scum aren't you?

Just cus I know it doesn't mean I don't want o hear it from you.

To further clarify: what I'm saying may seem off topic but is very much game related in sorting her.

Silverwolf wrote:
ika wrote:To further clarify: what I'm saying may seem off topic but is very much game related in sorting her.
If you already said I'm town, you already have me sorted right?

I want to be sure. You know vengeful game I didn't figure out till it was Lithely too late. I never pushed you before then so I need to be 100% sure

Silverwolf wrote:testing, for off topic color usage, am I doing it right?

yes love that's the right color.

Silverwolf wrote:
ika wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:testing, for off topic color usage, am I doing it right?
yes love that's the right color.
Thank You sweetie

weclome love, I love you!

We should abuse this though, the amount of off topics we could engage in......

RadicalFuzz wrote:I misinterpreted "he's here and not saying anything" as "he hasn't responded to me," my bad Wilgy.

And can one of you two please translate what's going on?

Simple we are dating and we have long talked about how we play as scum/town/3rd party and we both have concluded one of the biggest things we tend to resort to when interaction is talking about stuff that looks off topic but isn't.

It's hard to explain really maybe it can be better explained by ailver

Petit: know where I will
Prob be voting soon

Silver is town...

If anyone trues to vote her I will get start getting annoyed

agleaminranks wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:agelaminranks
That's it. Hadn't said a word to her before that, nor she me. She also has not given any reason for it, and has just stated that she refuses to elaborate. All I did was ask, twice, if she could explain why. You two seem to be the only ones here right now and I know you have some friendship from another site, so we'll wait to see what others think.
Also, "long post of words with nothing to back it up"? I gave three explicit reasons that she has me pinged pretty hard.

Come back when you're sober.

Linki: also, please keep this silliness in off-topic green.

She said she would, not only that, but i did the literal same thing day 1 to ehr and yes ppl got onto me about it but she stoped me. its something we both do that more often then not is NAI. i asked for postS. not just a signle post.

silver is not one to be an opertunistic voter as scum, she would be more porn to doing that as town and we jsut recentlyhad a game finsihed off site for that

NAI stands for non alignment indicative

that ebign said i got a therpist appoinemtnet to got to but then i should be around here and there

Silverwolf wrote:
ika wrote:NAI stands for non alignment indicative

that ebign said i got a therpist appoinemtnet to got to but then i should be around here and there
Hi ika, where's your avi?

your using it right now

no but ill get one once i get back, nice pagetop post though, it makes it hard to miss

LOVE YOU

Sloonei wrote:I propose some of us also turn and stare awkwardly at ika and Turnip Head until each of them gives us something substantial to work with.

Like what?

I jsut isoed dr and i see him as town right now
silver is town too

anyone else i should be isoing or reading up on right now?

i knwo someone said something about the voting the guy and i know sevral of us has said why.

pedit: silvers town. care to tell me whats pining you?

Silverwolf wrote:I wish there was a way to multiquote so I could put all my posts about Gleam together rather than explain myself again. I fail to see the problem with voting right away at the start of the day. Why is that any worse that voting in the middle or end of the day? This argument doesn't make sense to me. Also, I'm just gonna stay out of discussion of game mechanics and setup since I'm not used to complex games like this and I'd rather spend my time trying to figure out alignments rather than discuss setup and mechanics and all of that.

Also, funny story-I just figured out today that gleam and the person I'm voting for are the same person. lol

Also, ika I love your new avatar.

ika-Do you have any game relevant observations to make at this point?

I already gave some

Thanks i like it too

ill get to everyone posts

Silverwolf wrote:OK, ika stop buddying me now.

define buddying, last i recalled im smotheirng you with love and affection

Sloonei wrote:
ika wrote:
Sloonei wrote:I propose some of us also turn and stare awkwardly at ika and Turnip Head until each of them gives us something substantial to work with.
Like what?

I jsut isoed dr and i see him as town right now
silver is town too

anyone else i should be isoing or reading up on right now?

i knwo someone said something about the voting the guy and i know sevral of us has said why.

pedit: silvers town. care to tell me whats pining you?
Tell me about whatever your heart desires, I'm not the boss of you.

But if you really want to do my bidding, I'd be interested in your thoughts on myself, gleam, and/or Epignosis. Or literally anybody else you prefer to look at. Or any thought you have at all about the game.

well gleam im currently voteing so it should be sefl explainotry

episgon i can go iso and i need to iso you consideign how you are voting me and not directly interacitng with me about it before i would say leanign scum.

Sloonei wrote:@ika: I'm not seeing any Wilgy ISO. If you looked at him without posting anythijg, could you please share some of your thoughts with is? It's impossible to get a read on you if you're not sharing your thoughts.

i do it without saying most times. dont share thoughts as either aligment openly.

but i just glanced though hsi iso and it has a derpy tone to it that kinda says "meh i dont care about me" type thing

actualy does anoyne have meta games i cna glance at? i like doing that to try to compare

hey uzz what caught your eye?

Scotty wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:OK, ika stop buddying me now.
What made you start to pry ika off your back now as opposed to before? Because I was going to say something earlier yesterday about your little love affair going on, but didnt know your background. Are you guys dating IRL?

yes we are.

we can understand each other to a point where we can feel each oothers emotions and how we feel. its why we every time will kinda sort each other first

i can say more on it but if i contiune its starts to get slightly OT

pedit: and silver ninjas me again, she buddies me too as scum but its much more apprentand appeasey. shes bein more confrontational here

ika wrote:
Scotty wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:OK, ika stop buddying me now.
What made you start to pry ika off your back now as opposed to before? Because I was going to say something earlier yesterday about your little love affair going on, but didn't know your background. Are you guys dating IRL?
yes we are.

we can understand each other to a point where we can feel each other's emotions and how we feel. its why we every time will kinda sort each other first

i can say more on it but if i continue its starts to get slightly OT

pedit: and silver ninjas me again, she buddies me too as scum but its much more apparent and appeasey. shes being more confrontational here

fixed. it was gonna bug me

Long Con wrote:
ika wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:Also, if ika doesn't do anything D2, he should be lynched.
Do you think his inactivity makes him likely to be a cop?
Usually.
How does this self-meta-awareness work? If you know that you are likely to be more inactive as a baddie, then what's stopping you from flipping the script and looking Civ by avoiding that style? If I had that kind of self awareness, that's what I would try to do.

....

Continuing on, I am beginning to sympathize a little with gleam. There's been quite a bit of suspicion toward him that I think he's responded to very well. I think he comes out looking much more Civ of the two, in his exchange with Silverwolf.

----

A lot of things actually. my activit is something that i find hard to fake overall. but it has becmoe more often that i will be inactive regadless of alignent over the last year

as for the later, tell me more how hes civ, all i have seen is defenseive remarks about anything and his single post about silver shows very little

Silverwolf wrote:
ika wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:OK, ika stop buddying me now.
define buddying, last i recalled im smotheirng you with love and affection

Yes, I see that but I want to see more from you in game than just that. Buddying is when you are being affectionate and by doing so, making me subconsciously look elsewhere for suspicious activity, instead of looking right at you.

Well i have been doign slightly more already or do you disagree?

Also i could say something funny but ill be nice and not embarass you

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:
ika wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:OK, ika stop buddying me now.
define buddying, last i recalled im smotheirng you with love and affection

Yes, I see that but I want to see more from you in game than just that. Buddying is when you are being affectionate and by doing so, making me subconsciously look elsewhere for suspicious activity, instead of looking right at you.
Are you distancing? This looks like distancing.

lol

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:
ika wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:OK, ika stop buddying me now.
define buddying, last i recalled im smotheirng you with love and affection

Yes, I see that but I want to see more from you in game than just that. Buddying is when you are being affectionate and by doing so, making me subconsciously look elsewhere for suspicious activity, instead of looking right at you.
Are you distancing? This looks like distancing.
NO
Alrighty then, I'll take your word for it.

you better take her word on it

Sloonei wrote:i'm not directly interacting with you? What are all of these posts then?

And there's nothing self-explanatory about your vote for Gleam. Votes are something you're supposed to explain yourself, not something I'm supposed to piece together on my own.

well now you are, but your "well we could all look at ika" was not.

i expalined it seveal times already why im voting him. i mean like that you should kinda see why based on what i have said.

i like having some cards close to my chest

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