The Syndicate

Ricochet wrote:Well I'm human, so the Amnesty Act has no effect on me and how exactly can I force a Cylon to waste his claim, by fakeclaiming myself?

Why are you okay with Cavil or other possible bad Cylons having a lynch save at LYLO, btw?

I'm going to ask this question of everyone who refuses to claim. Does anyone have a legit answer?

Ricochet wrote:

Matt wrote:

Ricochet wrote:Well I'm human, so the Amnesty Act has no effect on me and how exactly can I force a Cylon to waste his claim, by fakeclaiming myself?

Why are you okay with Cavil or other possible bad Cylons having a lynch save at LYLO, btw?

I'm going to ask this question of everyone who refuses to claim. Does anyone have a legit answer?

I'm not okay with that. How can I prevent that from happening by fakeclaiming?

Why are you being difficult?

I've already explained. By claiming, we narrow down the list of those who won't. Why aren't you interested in narrowing down that list? How is it a "witch hunt" ? Do you not find it suspicious that players refuse to claim?

Let's get specific. What do you make of OA refusing to claim? She said she would be punished if she did. Why would she get punished? Especially if it's a law that players are allowed to claim?

Chaos age...

Lol.

Hey Long Con, what do you think of Scotty calling out sig? I agree with Scotty actually.

Weird sig has been harping on others claiming but he's yet to claim himself.

So what's the deal?

If Cain has Admiral powers, does that mean she can end the day early now?

Cain is adamant about removing Cylons, so if anyone has a counter to Lorab, I suggest you get on it before halfway through the day phase.

Derp.

I think we should push an Epi lynch. Get him at four votes, then he'll be forced to claim or die.

I figured, as a possible civilian, Epi would be happy to help us get rid of this ridiculous amnesty act, but he hasn't lead by example and it's frustrating tbh. I'm not even sure I believe he's Athena anymore.

Polo wrote:

Matt wrote:I think we should push an Epi lynch. Get him at four votes, then he'll be forced to claim or die.

I figured, as a possible civilian, Epi would be happy to help us get rid of this ridiculous amnesty act, but he hasn't lead by example and it's frustrating tbh. I'm not even sure I believe he's Athena anymore.

Do you think that Epignosis, whom we all know is Cylon as of the D1 lynch, would get amnesty if he claimed being Cylon?

Yes. The law states that anyone can claim Cylon, and if they are, they will get a reprieve for that day.

Knowing Epi is Cylon doesn't mean he's not allowed to claim it and grab that amnesty.

Epi - How do you feel about bad cylons having a lynch save at LYLO?

In fact, has anyone been able to answer that question? Pretty sure Rico didn't answer, just said "No I don't want that" and then continued to be against the very thing that can prevent this.

ObscureAllure wrote:Because if they are a townie WE LOSE THE TOWNIE.

How do you feel about bad Cylons having a lynch save at LYLO?

Long Con wrote:

ObscureAllure wrote:Because if they are a townie WE LOSE THE TOWNIE.

No human would avoid saying the phrase. I don't believe that some players somehow are not allowed to say it. Epignosis, do you believe that some humans are not allowed to say the phrase?

If you truly believe this, then do you find OA suspect for saying she doesn't want to say it for fear of being punished?

Ricochet wrote:

Matt wrote:In fact, has anyone been able to answer that question? Pretty sure Rico didn't answer, just said "No I don't want that" and then continued to be against the very thing that can prevent this.

No I wasn't. Read again. Or perhaps answer my question on that matter, while you're at it.

I've already answered, you just don't agree.

I believe by narrowing the list down further, we are pressuring players even more to claim, and eventually, all will claim or face imminent death.

You don't like it "cuz witch hunt", but that's the most effective way of going about this IMO. I'd rather witch hunt the shit out of players before facing a situation where it is impossible to destroy the bad guys as LYLO.

There is no Chaos Age.

Btw, you're right on the line between "laughing at Long Con's confusion" and "suspecting Long Con because he's acting too confused about this". Derp.

I'm almost considering voting Rico right now. I almost want him to say the magic phrase more then Epi.

Ricochet wrote:

Matt wrote:There is no Chaos Age.

Btw, you're right on the line between "laughing at Long Con's confusion" and "suspecting Long Con because he's acting too confused about this". Derp.

I'm almost considering voting Rico right now. I almost want him to say the magic phrase more then Epi.

I'm human, so I have no benefit from fakeclaiming, nor should I feel the pressure of having to.

Your vote would be literally proving my point on how this will turn into a witch hunt, if we don't get claims for each and every individual. Good job.

If you're human and/or civ, you should have no problem working with the town of which half of the players have already complied and just say it.

This goes for everyone.

Linki - I have no idea if you're human, Rico.

I have no idea if I'll be home or not before EoD, I actually think I will, but just in case...

Lorab

Even if I do get home, no doubt I'll be 15 pages behind by then and blahblahblah.

Lorab, if you turn out to be a good cylon, my bad dudette. But right now, I think you're the best choice.

Peace

Long Con wrote:The only players with a reason to want Cain dead are Cylons.

Catching up, I still have 11 pages and gotta leave for work in about 3 hours...jeez...

Anyway, wanted to stop here because...

This is not true. I will go so far as to say that I don't officially need Cain's head on a stick, but I'd sure love to see it anyway.

ADAMA or BUST

sig wrote:I don't feel like claiming cylon right now, and I'm not going to be pressured into it when the people attempting to pressure me into it don't care if Epi an outted cylon doesn't do it.

Still catching up, for all I know you eventually claim, but this is not true.

I'd like you to claim and I also care that Epi doesn't do it. I'd like him to claim too.

Also, so I don't forget, and again someone might've already updated the list but so far G-Man and juliets have claimed since my last Cylon Claim update.

rabbit8 wrote:If you need a replacement Golden, I'm always good to annoy... everyone. Mainly you though... amiright?

Whoa!!

Haven't seen rabbit in forever! My third game ever was a Rabbit LMS game on RM in which I was lynched Day 1. Haha!

Epignosis wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:If you need a replacement Golden, I'm always good to annoy... everyone. Mainly you though... amiright?

You missed an amazing Batman themed game here a few months ago. Absolutely stellar.

bea wrote:I am a cylon

Adding bea to G-man/julies who have now said "the phrase".

Thanks bea. I read the rest of your post and despite you being adamantly against it, I appreciate you going with the town on this one.

Btw, everything I've read Scotty saying about sig is spot on and I think I want to lynch him today.

But I'm still suss of OA and Long Con, too and I especially think Long Con could be Cain. Or Ricotech could be cain. Or...

Dex wrote:I am a Cylon.

Just in case my predecessor didn't declare.

G-Man, juliets, bea, Dex/DFaraday

Sorry if the list has already been updated, I just don't want to forget, and I may have to leave at a moments notice (tho I think I'll be fine for another hour or so) so just want to be sure I get everyone. Apologies.

Spacedaisy wrote:Psst, Matt, I kept this from my days of being a card carrying member of the super duper cool kids club.

I'm going to have to classify you as good now, and hope you wouldn't bring up fond memories to keep me from stalking you later.

Ricochet wrote:

juliets wrote:

Ricochet wrote:People should simply address what has been pointed at in regards to him being a Cylon and decide if it sounds genuine / plausible / etc. or not. You can stick with the Cain vibes just as much, if you like, but address actual suggestive statements made in the game first. My only gripe, as I've said before, is for it not to turn out to be yet another messy "Boomslang gambit".

I'm sorry but I don't understand what the Boomslang gambit is. Could you give a short explanation?

Boomslang barked for two or more phases at Long Con being 100% bad, harder than a trainer dog pointing at cocaine under truck wheels, and most of us considered it to have been a cop check. Not only was that inaccurate and LC flipped civ, but Boomslang was in fact a mere curser or some smaller role (don't recall) and he had done all based on gut. The mislynch repercussion was kinda dreadful for the civ game.

Lol. Omg I was dying when Boom flipped as the question curser or whatever and Long Con's ensuing response "Fuck you Boomslang" in dead red. Hahahahaha!

I know Polo posted a list, but just wanted to post my updated list... (they might be the same, probably are, derp)...

a2thezebra
DrWilgy
Epignosis
Glorfindel
OA
Ricotech
sig
Sokoth
Vompatti

9 players. Is that correct? Someone said 7 earlier, so I don't know if I'm missing something somewhere...

Of the names above, I am most curious of the red. Oh, and OA. She def not civ, right?

Daisy, Sokoth seems to be a friend of yours. What do you make of him seeing you claim Cylon but he won't do it himself? As a noob to Mafia, I'd assume he'd look to your lead in situations like this where the town is conflicted.

sig - I'm not down with anyone not claiming but I find you most curious because you have been legit asking others to claim but you won't do it yourself. Wtf?

Anyway, off to work. Peace

To be clear, the above list is the list of non-claimers as of now.

So Say We All!

I'm suss of many people, but right now at 2:12 am, my top three are...

sig, Sokoth, Ricotech

sig "claiming" while really not was hella suss. Even before Golden said something, my skin crawled. And I believe Polo and Dex jumped right in with a "Oh sig claimed guess he can't be lynched now"...hrm.

Sokoth is a noob and his anti-town agenda (yes ANTI-town as over half the town has agreed to claim and believe it is for the greater good) in his first game is interesting. And no, I was not implying that Sokoth would message Daisy illegally outside the game and ask her advice. I meant, as Daisy is one of his good friends apparently, and this is his first ever game, that he would see her claim and go "Hmmm, maybe I should give this a go".

Btw, that line about anti-town agenda, that officially goes for everyone who isn't claiming. You can say "witch hunt" or whatever till the cows come home, but right now, I wouldn't feel bad whatsoever if we lynched a non-claimer and they popped up "obvi civ", they are essentially helping the Cylons keep their amnesty because of their shenanis.

If Long Con isn't Cain, I could see Rico as Cain. And Cain needs to go.

Ricochet wrote:What does everyone think of Vompatti? I seem to be at liberty to talk about him and him only, oh my frak. He made a delicate post yesterNight implying he's bad Cylon. I know he had his outing-himself-as-baddie moments in the past (Biblical) and I even said (more or less humorously) that I'd believe him saying he's bad Cylon, but for what it's worth, my last impression of Vompatti is him outing himself with ease when he was civ on a mission (cop). Instead, if bad, I can see him not exactly working with his team in any way, but neither exactly outing himself or sabotaging the state of the team via exposure.

That's odd that you're allowed to talk about one player.

I'm not sure what to make of it, even if it is Vompatti you're allowed to talk about.

It's getting tiresome how 3J "never remembers" the So say we all.

Not tiresome really, just hella suspect tbh. Hrm.

With that, g'night.

Ricochet wrote:

Matt wrote: Btw, that line about anti-town agenda, that officially goes for everyone who isn't claiming. You can say "witch hunt" or whatever till the cows come home, but right now, I wouldn't feel bad whatsoever if we lynched a non-claimer and they popped up "obvi civ", they are essentially helping the Cylons keep their amnesty because of their shenanis.

Zelda wouldn't suitable bad about civilians irreprovable sorely.

Han Tzu.

Nope I wouldn't feel bad in the slightest.

Question for anyone/everyone - Is there a precedent for this? I mean, someone being insanified but they are allowed to not be insanified wrt one player? I've personally never seen it.

Obscure needs more scrutiny.

She's said that she cannot claim because of some "punishment" or whatever, but earlier, I recall her saying "If we all lynch LC, I'll claim in two seconds!" or some such.

Whatevs, it all sounds bogus. Why would she be willing to claim just because we lynch LC? Does lynching LC have something to do with her "punishment" if she claims now? I doubt it.

Bogus.

Updated list of Non-Claimers

a2thezebra
DrWilgy
Epignosis
Glorfindel
OA
Ricotech
Sokoth
Vompatti

How many players do we have in the game? 24, 25? Two-thirds of the town have agreed that claiming is in the town's best interest, so essentially, all of these players are anti-town as of now.

We need to put pressure on them. Do I think they're all "bad" ? No. Do I think Cavil and/or other bad cylons are hiding in this bunch? Absolutely.

I think we should start with OA, who can't claim cuz of "punishments" but will totes claim if we lynch LC despite "punishments".

ObscureAllure

Linki - Oh okay, nvm now she was "just kidding". Someone help me pressure her please.

Ricochet wrote:And so the AaronLittleton hunt begins.

I actually wanted to vote you too, and I think more people would be willing to follow that vote tbh, but I don't trust OA in the slightest.

I believe it's convenient that you were "insanified", and I think it's weird you're allowed to talk about only one player. Again, has anyone ever seen insanity work like that before?

I think the claimers need to get on the same page and start flushing out these toaster sympathizers.

If not OA, fine. Even though I currently think she's civ, I'd even be down with pressuring Zeebs to say it. Any of 'em!

None of the non-claimers have yet to give a reason why they think Cylons with a lynch immunity at LYLO is a good idea.

bea wrote:And hating everyone who doesn't want to claim.

Whoa...whoa whoa whoa. Lol.

I could put this in green but I guess it's relevant so I won't. I'm having a marvelous time just so everyone knows. When I post stuff like "we need to pressure these toaster sympathizers" or "i don't even care if we lynch a civ!!", that's simply me getting into the game like hardcore. I mean no ill will towards any civvies who are still currently not claiming. IF we did lynch a civ who hadn't claimed, I wouldn't be sitting there, rubbing my hands together thinking "that guy (or gal) effin' deserved it! *meanface* "

Also it's funny Long Con was accusing SVS of this earlier, but I actually have been roleplaying a bit this game, but in the best interests (at least in my opinion) of the town. BSG is one of my fave shows of all time (again tho, like one of my other favorite shows of all time "LOST", the ending is meh) and it's been fun getting into my role.

Anyway, as I've stated before, lynch me or NK me or whatever I really don't care.

Epignosis wrote:Enough with this claiming bullshit. I'm going to start voting people who keep it up. Get to talking suspects or get to taking my vote.

Do you believe OA holds a position like the President or the Admiral? For her to be "unable" to say the phrase because of punishments, if we even believe that, she would have to carry one of these roles. Otherwise, I think she's bullshitting and bad. What do you think?

I kind of wish I voted Sokoth, tho. I think if he were civ, he would've saw Daisy claim and followed her lead. I know nothing about the guy, and I know others will look down on me for using my personal experience against him, but if it were my first game and I only had one person I knew in it, and I was a lonely civ, I'd probably be looking at my friend a lot more to see what he's doing. I dunno. I think Sokoth needs to go.

Per the "witch hunt", it looks like Polo and others (MM posted something about liking Glorfy's anti-claim stance? wut?) are backing down, so eff it, I will too. Honestly it's whatevs, if we lose at LYLO because of this, I'll expect a participation banner with the words "I told you so" on it.

ObscureAllure wrote:Five bucks says Matt and Wigly have BTSC.

Make it happen, Goldama! Wilgy's an awesome btsc partner.

Long Con, if you survive this lynch and even if you are Admiral Cain, I'll vote bloc Sokoth with you. He's def bad.

RIP juliets.

Who sent the C6 sortie? I suppose I could go F5 it in the last few pages...hrm...

Dex wrote:Let us all sortie sector C6 together. According to my notes, only sector F1 remains.

@S~V~S or anyone else, the next time slot is 8:07 AM EST if you want to complete this task.

Was this the officially sent C6 sortie?

@ Dex

I have no idea how game mechanics work, but a theory.

A bad cylon sends a sortie that actually hits a rezz ship will give a bittersweet reward to the Mafia by killing one of the nuggets. Derp?

Long Con wrote:

Matt wrote:Long Con, if you survive this lynch and even if you are Admiral Cain, I'll vote bloc Sokoth with you. He's def bad.

Thanks for the offer, Matt. Why do you think he's "def bad"?

I fully believe as a straight noob to Mafia, he would be looking to Daisy for guidance in situations like this where the town is conflicted.

He did not.

It's all I got, but I'm feelin' it man, I'm feelin' it!!!

Also his posts are full of...I dunno what, has he even named a single suspect yet?

Matt wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Matt wrote:Long Con, if you survive this lynch and even if you are Admiral Cain, I'll vote bloc Sokoth with you. He's def bad.

Thanks for the offer, Matt. Why do you think he's "def bad"?

I fully believe as a straight noob to Mafia, he would be looking to Daisy for guidance in situations like this where the town is conflicted.

He did not.

It's all I got, but I'm feelin' it man, I'm feelin' it!!!

Also his posts are full of...I dunno what, has he even named a single suspect yet?

Per the underline, I was referring to the mass claim that town has been conflicted on.

Linki - LC, I dunno, just spitballing. I have no idea what would cause one of our pilots to die, but that idea popped into my head.

Also, I'm conflicted on LC people, but he better not be the top vote getter today. Seriously, the top vote getter should be a non-claimer.

Oh, I said I was done arguing this huh? I lied.

I think you're taking my theory too far, I never said lynch Dex. But I do think my idea is plausible and Dex should be looked at closer.

Before juliets died on his watch, I had Dex down as pure civ btw and was happy he was keeping up with the indiglo cause.

Long Con wrote:I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I don't think it's plausible. I didn't say that you "said lynch Dex". I said you're casting suspicion on him. Which you are, right?

Shut yo mouth, Cain.

Sokoth is here. Let's take him to the Brig and beat 'em while nobody's looking.

I wish I still had my vote.

Or I wish others would vote where I'm voting?

Goldama can I have my vote back?

Ya'all should vote for the Klingon.

Dex wrote:I do hope Madam President repeals the Amnesty law now. It would be fun lynching our way through that list of non-declarers. I'd like to hear what they had to say for themselves then.

Hi! What do you think of my theory on you?

Yo Faraday...

You have 11 posts and the least amount of posts then any other living player in the game. 30 less posts then the second least poster, Nero.

That's lurky.

Ricochet wrote:

Dex wrote:Dammit, RIP Juliets. What a sucky way to go, just when we were wrapping up, too.

hulky an unfortunate use of an emoji.

I thought maybe he was soft claiming Kat, but then I came up with my idea on him being an evil cylon.

I could go either way really.

G-Man wrote:A question for Matt while he's around:

Matt wrote:Also, depending on what happens here rest of day, I think it's possible I may have been breached and may call for my own lynch on Day 4.

Don't ask me details, just sayin'. Deeeerp.

Are you able to explain any more about what on earth this post was about? It will help me place you on my reads lists.

linki: Matt, are you aware that Dex replaced Faraday?

Lol @ the Linki.

Oops.

As for your question...

I'd rather not go into details. I'd be fine with my own lynching, tho, if town ever wants to go that way.

Question, G-man - Do you believe the Mafia may be able to duplicate other players' powers?

I don't believe saying "I am a Cylon" in quotes is an official claim. Without the quotes, please.

Rico, please shush until night phase.

Sokoth, w/o the quotes please.

SokothQultuq wrote:

Matt wrote:I don't believe saying "I am a Cylon" in quotes is an official claim. Without the quotes, please.

Huh. Should I post it in red, bold, 24 font for you as well? perhaps a special font?

You're bad. Please vote him town.