The Syndicate

Epignosis wrote:

Ricochet wrote:Also interesting that every Kira made the Eye Deal, Kami included. I would have, too.

I would have made the Eye Deal ASAP, especially knowing you can win if you die.

I told them multiple times they should. They didn't take it until role secrets were revealed so we knew that we needed it.

That was an aspect of the game that I believe benefited the Sympathizers far more than the other players.

Epignosis wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Ricochet wrote:Also interesting that every Kira made the Eye Deal, Kami included. I would have, too.

I would have made the Eye Deal ASAP, especially knowing you can win if you die.

I told them multiple times they should. They didn't take it until role secrets were revealed so we knew that we needed it.

That was an aspect of the game that I believe benefited the Sympathizers far more than the other players.

Of course it did. It's a double role check to help you decide a kill. Plus it doesn't matter if you have double votes against you- you win if dead.

Oops, I meant the role secrets being revealed, not the Eye Deal.

Matahari wrote:

Spacedaisy wrote:Who was it?

I'll have to go and see what his name was. Thank you guys for helping me so much during this game. I was so impressed with Daisy's skill at mafia, and MM's and Boo's. MM made me laugh a zillion times, and I didn't even trust him. I thought he had a secret win con with TH. And TH was amazing, holy shit, he was on top of everything all game. I learned something really important, if you take a long break from mafia, never come back and sign up for an MP game. play something easier first.

I didn't get my head wrapped around the game until TH let Llama know that it was time for DH to start killing. That post finally got me invested but, I was already outed.

Golden!!!!!!!! I can't wait to suspect you again

Haha, I totally caught TH on that plan. I called him out on it, and basically told the whole thread what he was up to. I'm surprised more detectives didn't go along with the plan, because lynching L, theoretically, would have been beneficial to them.

Turnip Head wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I don't think the detectives realize just how close they were to winning. TH could even have set up a foolproof plan with his secret votes to guarentee it. He could have placed a few on each of Daisy, zeek and DP (the three he thought could be Kira), and let the player with the double-votes get lynched. Fortunately for us, that didn't happen. That's also why Mata and I tried to get her lynched, because we knew votes on her were doubled because of the eye deal.

i... didn't even think of that. And yes, the detectives were one or two breaks away from stealing the game from under Kira's noses. I really wanted to try and get Light without him knowing I was onto him, which is why I voted for Zeek but put the extra votes on DP. I briefly thought Daisy was Higuchi but never considered her for Light, she snuck right past me. And after she helped me win I don't know if I would have been able to snipe her with the extra votes anyway, I was appreciative of her wanting to share the win with me.

This game must have been a nightmare to balance but I think MP did a fantastic job with such an experimental premise. Like I said, the detectives almost had it, it really could have gone either way.

I felt bad for DH, he was sitting around twiddling his thumbs all game. I'm glad he had fun with the decoding, that actually was a highlight for me too. He and I spent an entire fucking Saturday decoding all the additional secrets and I was happy to have all the extra votes to try and win the game for the detectives. But once DH and FZ died I kind of lost my drive to keep trying. I still put in some effort but more than anything I just wanted to win myself at that point.

I had so much fun playing this role and I know I will never be able to repeat this performance. Nearly 1000 posts, holy crap, I'll never be able to be that involved in a game again. I found Mello on night 2, my Death Note on Night 3, and got my first lynch on Day 4, so I was basically 75% of the way towards winning by that point. But I didn't want to half ass this great role so I kept playing hard. The Kiras just played harder. They definitely deserved the win, even though it was ridiculously hard to get rid of them.

Great game everyone, this was a classic, one of my all time favorite mafia games, so thank you MP for putting it together and reaching out to me to sign up. I won't miss any future MP games, that's for sure.

The last few days were bizzare. I kept trying to lead you on in various places and couldn't tell if you were following or not. And every time you let something slip or whatever, I couldn't tell if you did it on purpose.

Also, shout out to boo for getting the message to kill DH and FZ. I managed to convey the message and distance us at the same time, I think, and it worked perfectly.

And my blatant message to Mikami to suicide, well I felt like a fool when he didn't listen. But thanks MP for letting me be so blunt in my message. I enjoyed the reactions it garnered.

And as I said before BR. I did not kill you. Bass did.

Turnip Head wrote:

Spacedaisy wrote:It was your secret votes that made me realize I had to drop that note like a hot potato TH.

I really hadn't wanted to make that info public until I had a chance to utilize it, but MP forced us to reveal the rest of the role secrets at the end of the trivia game. I was hoping to reveal it at the end of a lynch and then snipe a Kira out of nowhere. Would have been a lot more fun that way, anyways :P

Hey TH, why did you vote for llama on Day 10?

Turnip Head wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Hey TH, why did you vote for llama on Day 10?

Honestly I was just keeping up my pattern of voting early for dumb reasons :P It wasn't a power play at all, we didn't know he was L. I would have used my extra votes to save him that Day actually, but I was stuck at work when the massacre went down and I didn't get a chance to tell MP that I wanted to use my extra votes. I would have lynched Bass or myself in his place.

Wow, that's crazy, especially considering the insight boo just gave that he used his extra votes to kill llama. I was convinced it was you though TH. You had the secret votes, and my reasoning was a pretty sound plan for you guys, or so I thought.

Linki: Yeah, the place would have gone nuts. "burnin' down the house".

Ricochet wrote:Extra votes? Plural? How did one player get more than one?

I'm home, praise the Kami.

TH got an extra vote for each role secret 'secret' he uncovered using four or fewer letters. So he could have gotten a maximum of 12.

Linki: Yeah, insane.

Ricochet wrote:So I think I also want to inquire, MP and/or Team Light, what were the mechanics of using the DN and timing a kill with it (I ask this since I was the only DN eligible never to even be made familiair with this) and, to the best of knowledge, what kills were executed, which failed early on and who dunnit it, up until Bass started killing of course.

Let's see if I can recreate this to the best of my knowledge.

Night 1 - Daisy killed Long Con. This kill was to take place just after the Day 2 lynch, to get players thinking, and even worrying when the kill didn't happen normally.
Night 2 - Daisy killed SVS. This kill took place at exactly 2:30 PM EST, because we wanted to share with the thread (and Eloh) that we were paying attention.
Night 3 - Daisy killed boo, and Mata killed FZ. Both kills failed because boo was Rem and FZ was Near. Both kills were intended to happen immediately at the end of Night. We also gained BTSC with Mata that night AND lost Daisy's DN to TH.
Night 4 - Mata killed Aces. This kill we pushed back again just to keep the timing all over the place. We picked Aces because we thought that he was SVS's Penber partner. This was also my first (pretty lame) attempt at adding flavor to the NK.
Night 5 - Mata killed Zomba. This kill was immediate, because at this point we were certain, based on in-thread reads and everything, that Zomba was Naomi Penber. We were rewarded there.
Night 6 - Mata killed Russti - We finally took the Eye Deal, and we checked Russ and Epi. We also finally learned that one player could kill with the other's DN, so Daisy took the deal but killed with Mata's DN since Daisy was immune to lynches at the time. Since Epi wasn't a threat and Russ was Mogi, we sent a kill his way. We timed this one to occur exactly 48 hours after his previous post just to mess with him. The flavor in that NK was all MP's doing. I think...
Night 7 - Daisy killed bea - This time we checked Ricohet and bea. Ricochet was (surprisingly) Mikami, so of course we killed bea. The flavor there was all my doing. Bea showed me that picture when we were chatting via PM sometime, so I thought it would be perfect.
Night 8 - Daisy killed DH - We checked DH and juliets, so of course we attempted to kill the more dangerous role in DH. Unfortunately, he could not be NK'd at the time, after which that secret was revealed in his role. So we used Daisy's DN scrap to check Boomslang and BR during the Day 9 phase. Since Boomslang was Watari, we went ahead and killed him to get him out of the way. That was particularly helpful since llama ended up being lynched the next day.
Night 9 - There was no Night 9. But the Day 9 lynch told us for certain that FZ was Near (since she survived a NK and a lynch).
Night 10 - Bass killed Epi and juliets. Daisy passed both DN's to Higuchi this day, so Bass ended up with both. Boo communicated to us after we lost BTSC in thread that Bass was Higuchi, and aso took care of Mello and Near for us. Bass checked Epi, juliets, zeek, and DP. He killed Epi because he was Yotsuba and juliets because she had was the strongest detective of the three.
Night 11 - Bass killed BR and Rico. Well Bass killed BR because she was Yotsuba and Rico because he was Mikami. Bass also checked myself and Daisy that night, so he killed the only killable role left.
Night 12 - Daisy killed zeek and Mata. And that's game.

bea wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Ricochet wrote:Special shout to my active Film baddie laureates for winning again alongside me,, even if we had no contact, even if TH hunted me. Really glad I helped TH. Oh w8, I missed the vote lol.

And you missed your cue to suicide. We knew who you were, lol, and we did want you to commit suicide at that time.

Linki @DH: A paragraph would do, maybe. Was it something from another player, or just the structure?

An argument could be made that the powers of the mafia were a little much to overcome, especially when two of the more powerful civ roles had to wait so long to use their own powers, but I'm not really too bothered by that, since I got to do a lot of decoding and stuff to keep me busy.

What did bother me was my interactions this game with certain players, that just took the fun out of it for me.

I am truly sorry for my part in that. I attributed things to you that others said and I feel very badly for how I reacted to you DH. Please know that I adore you to death and I hope that you can forgive me for behaving so poorly.

I hope you will forgive me for making fun of you in life and in death. Your death post was entirely my doing, and Daisy and Mata even said it might be too harsh.

Oh shit, BDH is online. I better hide.

@Rico, yeah no kidding. The only real vote Daisy received all game.

zeek wrote:I looked at the player list on D12 and asked myself who I trusted the most... and then voted for that person. It's a testament to the game you played, Daisy, that the only reasoning I had was that Light was probably playing the game of their life.

So yeah. Helluva job Daisy.

boo would be all for lynching those non-participants. :P

How about Fullmetal Alchemist?

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:How about Fullmetal Alchemist?

You and I know that will be the long-awaited third game in a trio of crazy anime-themed MP (and co-host) games.

Ah, but of course.

Speaking of which, finals are over for me, so I've got time to spare.

No idea, and that's a very good question.

Turnip Head wrote:Sidoh does not care about such trivial matters as Shinigami Eye Deals. He just wants his notebooooooooook.

GIVE ME BACK MY NOTEBOOOOOOOOOK!!!!!!!!

Turnip Head wrote:Thank you for the banners Daisy! It looks beautiful in my sig

Hey, you Rico and I match!

Thanks for the banner Daisy! They are excellent. Just like my latest adventure.

Ricochet wrote:

Ricochet wrote: In what can only be described as a very ironic post-scriptum, considering all I've posted this morning, I would actually attempt to limit my time here to the absolute minimum until I pass my IELTS test on Saturday morning. That's N8 and the first day of D9. Thanks for understanding.

Results came in. 8.0 overall. Though only a 7 in Writing and 7.5 in Speaking. Listening and Reading are borderline banal tests, so there's not much satisfaction in the fact that getting higher grades there compensated.

Also, congrats to TH for joining the Mods of the Round Table! Finally someone I can bribe for future wins or preferential modkills.

You gotta sign up for a game to do that. :P