The Syndicate

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:26 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:21 am I'm going to do an ISO or three. Find your grossest yellow read among the players who have posts and make a request.

you can do speedchuck. and nutella. thanks babe. xxx

I was going to suggest that second one.

hmm

An ISO of Made would be nice

Oh ha, didn't see that. Nevermind.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:13 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:03 pm @dunya @Kylemii @nutella @Long Con @Jackofhearts2005 @JaggedJimmyJay @Simon

It's a strange aberration, this brainstorm of youth
Though it's lost in translation from fancy to truth
It's hopelessly human, both inside and out
A joyous occasion, no reason to doubt
It's easy somehow, what once was elusive is calling me now

What means this, Speedchuck?

Lost in translation - we can't easily communicate
hopelessly human - Sig is not communicating because he's human. He may not be able to defend himself with the limitation. ALSO with 'human' referring to Sig's genuine-ness. Sig is acting like himself. He's human, flawed but genuine, and is acting normal. It's hopeless to expect him to be anything but himself.
THUS
no reason to doubt - Sig hasn't given us any strong reasons to consider him town (outside of his meta), and he can't start now because limitation
it's easy somehow - this lynch is being piled on with no resistance whatsoever, at a time where votes are our best communication. Sig is also the easiest mislynch in most of the games I've played. He's been mislynched on D1 in at least one of the few games I've played with him, and from what I hear, multiple times before that.

Those are my full thoughts of course. I was trying to at least get across that nobody could doubt the lynch because we couldn't talk well, and that Sig was too easy a lynch

lapluie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:29 pm You guys are looking in the wrong direction


Please vote dunya if you're town, we really need 1 bad kill already!!! Gosh

Do you have any arguments for Dunya scum other than the ones I've presented? Because I'd probably put Dunya in orange on a rainbow list, not red. I'm not certain.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:43 pm the "no reason to doubt" part made me think you had no reason to doubt the sig case.

your post was ironically lost in translation.

So did you think I was supporting it? What else did you get from my insane comments on the Sig lynch?

linki [mention]rabbit8[/mention] POE pool = Process of Elimination pool. It's a grouping 'pool' of players that scum are theorized to be in, by virtue of eliminating towny-looking players or players that are in good positions on lynches.

lapluie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:35 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:34 pm

lapluie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:29 pm You guys are looking in the wrong direction


Please vote dunya if you're town, we really need 1 bad kill already!!! Gosh

Do you have any arguments for Dunya scum other than the ones I've presented? Because I'd probably put Dunya in orange on a rainbow list, not red. I'm not certain.

But you voted for her last night?

Ignore that.

I'm voting Dunya to open conversation. Maybe my vote will stay, and maybe it won't. I don't have the most reliable scumhunting record, especially before we have have any scum flips. What do you see in Dunya.

linki: DAMMIT STOP POSTING

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:36 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:16 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:00 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:30 pmI am 1 vote sig, you are 1 vote on sig. We are equally responsible, Mr. JoH, so don't go pointing that long finger anywhere k?

hej hej, don't you think this is a little bit untrue? sig wasn't even a point of conversation before you came in and built a case on him.

I mean it's not like you bounced in and single-handedly lynched him all on your own, and I don't think making a case against him by itself was a bad look, but it seems like you're underselling your involvement in the event a little bit.

I came into a game in the worst phase possible and tried to contribute something useful.

If you can't see it that way, I got nothing more to say.

lapluie is excused for her suspicions because she hasn't played any previous games with me.

But here's some dunya scum meta for you: scum dunya would have latched onto one of the two bandwagons...three votes each, so easy for me. so painless. I could have built cases and made it seem like an informed choice. TSP? Are you kidding me? I could have made a 100 reasons why he was fishy and weird.

You came up with 2 sort-of weak reasons for lynching Sig. If there were 100 reasons to lynch TSP, why not lynch TSP? And what DO you think of TSP?
Walk me through your thought process, please. Sincere question.

Last question, I promise [mention]dunya[/mention]

How many games have you played with Sig?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:52 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:36 pmI came into a game in the worst phase possible and tried to contribute something useful.

If you can't see it that way, I got nothing more to say.

that wasn't really what i asked. i already do see it that way. you came in and made lemonade out of lemons, then 6 other people drank that lemonade and followed a similar recipe for their own lemonade. then someone died, I guess, which doesn't really fit the lemonade metaphor really(?) but it strikes me as weird that your response is "everyone else contributed to the lemonade just as much as me" rather than like.... "sorry, i guess that lemonade recipe wasn't as good as I thought it was going to be, my bad"

Well, I mean, they drank it before making it. If it tasted like crap, they shouldn't have swallowed.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:55 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:51 pm Last question, I promise dunya

How many games have you played with Sig?

Pirates, Mountains and this one. I already mentioned that. I town read him in Pirates and Mountains ftr (but you know that since you played those 2). I felt he was sincere there in a way he wasn't here.

I don't even remember Sig being in those games, TBH.

I'm still wary, but eh. I'll probably find somewhere to move my vote. There are a lot of people that look worse on that lynch than you.

For the record, this is where I'm coming from: My first game here was Phenon Mafia, a year ago. Sig got lynched on D1, for no reason. (I was a 3P there, a terrifying one)
I remember Sig saying that he usually gets lynched D1.
I've been wary of that ever since. When I was scum in Pirates, I voted for Sig D1, right off the bat, to see if I could go anywhere with it. (I just went back and looked)
Every forum has the guy who gets mislynched early on. On this forum, that person is Sig, in my head. Considering that he survived most of the the time you've played with him, you wouldn't have that perspective, so... yeah.

Voted Simon for now

Wait, are dead people allowed to vote?

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:34 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:20 pm Voted Simon for now

Wait, are dead people allowed to vote?

considering MacD's vote is on you, I'll say yes.

Anybody can click the poll.

lapluie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:36 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:20 pm Voted Simon for now

Wait, are dead people allowed to vote?

K mafia.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:31 pm I mean, I hate to base a case entirely on meta but Simon is such a low contributor, I also can't not case him because a case doesn't exist.... soooooo....I need Town Simon examples.

Simon was town in Vocaroo

Ha I really need to catch up before replying

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:36 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:19 pm I gotta play the next Vocaroo mafia but I'll be way less active unless I'm working from home. Bosses not caring if I'm on my phone all day cause my numbers shine is one thing. Me recording my thoughts about lynching people at my desk is quite another.

*Jack finishes conference call with the team, kicks back, and heads to The Syndicate for a bit -- he forgot to turn off speakerphone. Coworker Jill hears the motion and continues listening curiously.*

"No way, Chuck. I'm done bullshitting with you. I haven't asked you for much, and you have still given me nothing. These excuses do nothing for me, and it's high time you get lynched. You're going to die. Got me?"

*Jill's eyes go wide, and she immediately dials the police.*

"I've been accused of many things, but never of providing nothing. I've given you everything, Jack. Everything but a bullet in your damn neck. Kinda wishing I got around to that."

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:39 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:29 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:10 pm But you've also been active this day phase before he/she reminded you. Are you telling me you started this day phase having forgotten about your top suspect ?

I was indeed active this day phase before that and during the night, such as the time I called you a suspect. There was also the other time I called you a suspect. It's nice to come in here with an itch to vote for someone though and have the best name presented to me by someone else.

If not you, then who? Give me three suspects.

Here you go : Dunya, TonyStarkPrime and JaggedJimmyJay

Please tell me about the things that make you suspicious of dunya and TSP.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:20 pm I actually felt at some point today during my lunch break, and while eating an apple with cheese, that LC could be Kano.

That actually makes a lot of sense. LC is spreading his wings under the radar.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:52 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:50 pm my question is why dunya got so flustered when I just asked her to answer someone's question instead of sidestepping it. I don't even agree with lapluie or know what she wanted to get from that question, but I felt the need to call dunya out for deliberately and flippantly misinterpreting it.

linki: what? I've been responding to rabbit as well and talking about my own suspicions. You're the one who thinks I'm only talking about you

How did I misinterpret it? I didn't misinterpret it. I think I know what a hypothetical situation is. How do you know my motives for questioning lap without answering her? Why were you so eager for the answer on a nowhere question?

Oh no, not one of these...

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:02 pm I still want lapluie to tell me more about this second player I mysteriously killed without realizing I did it though. Like, who it was.

It was me!

...

I got better.

I'll explain the mac vote justification when I get home and am not phone posting. Expect righteous anger.

Which 2?

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:54 pm speedchuck -- just a few choice selections because I don't have the patience to read his whole iso

Right after the mac lynch:

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:07 pm Huh.

I blame JJJ for this.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:48 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:18 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:20 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:15 pm Bleeeeeeeh. @Mac lynch.

I'm definitely not sure how I feel about this post.

Some odd mixture of TMI, guessing your motive, wondering why you thought Kyle would be better, and being annoyed that you didn't make a stronger case on Kyle if you really wanted that lynch.

I think Mac was good and Kyle is bad. Also, lack of flip sucks. There's nothing else to it.

Ultimately, why did you vote for Mac?

The only good feels I have from Mac came from his hard-nosed style. Then I was told that he was like that as both alignments, so I went back to bleh on him.

Worse than Kylemii. Kyle's tone reads as town, though I'm still not seeing the civvie spark from him that I usually do. He 'shines' more in late game anyway, so I'm willing to give him more time.

I moved my vote from Wilgy to Mac so that I could commit, make a statement. I wanted my vote on the record, to weigh in on the choice even though my vote wasn't needed. Seems like a good thing to do, make my vote worth something on the record.

Ohh I don't like this. Especially those last couple sentences justifying his vote. I don't like it at all.

Back home, baby. [mention]Macdougall[/mention] [mention]Nutella[/mention] [mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention]

So I'm going to take you guys on a trip down memory lane, since you want to look at this post out of the context it was in. I had been on Wilgy most of the day, as had a few others. Then the mac train started. And it got big, to 6-7 players. It was at this point that I moved my vote over.

Why did I do this? Why not leave it where it was? My vote was going to do nothing either way!

Untrue.

My vote is a statement of approval. If my vote isn't going to affect the lynch, heck, if I don't WANT to change the lynch, then there's no better place for it than ON the lynch train. I was around, I approved, so I voted. And when asked why, I said the above, in very plain terms. Because I don't consider that to be scummy behavior.

"But speedchuck, you were focusing on yourself! Only mafia care about that. Town care about hunting."
No. Townies put hunting first, other things second. I put my hunting first, and then when I was done for the day, I put down a stamp of approval on the lynch. I put it there for the same reason that I did NOT join the Sig lynch. And when asked, I didn't hide what I was trying to do. This was something I did on purpose, because I thought it was a good idea. Not some timid freaking "better join the lynch so they don't notice my vote" crap.

And for the record, if I stayed on Wilgy, and said that I had done so because I didn't want my vote on the lynch, people could have gotten onto me for that even more. "You didn't want your vote in the pile of mislynch analysis!" No.

The only difference between me and the other people that piled votes on a runaway lynch train, or who didn't vote, self-voted, or sequestered their vote away on an impossible lynch, is that I'm honest about what I'm doing. Go look at all the votes that didn't matter on those days, and ask yourself why those people weren't on a target that mattered, or at least campaigning for it.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 2:27 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:22 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:20 pm I actually felt at some point today during my lunch break, and while eating an apple with cheese, that LC could be Kano.

That actually makes a lot of sense. LC is spreading his wings under the radar.

I'm spreading my wings?

"flying" under the radar. I'm being cute.

6 hours left in the day. Frustrating amount of vote spread, little engagement with the voters. Nobody is getting in there and trying to decide who to vote. Everyone just decided, argued their case when questioned, and then sat there.

Start campaigning, darnit!

I know I'm not much better, but I'm being suspected in two games right now, and I don't know which to give priority.

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:18 pm I mean, I have a guest staying with me for 2 weeks on Tuesday so I should lay low and let myself be mislynched and use this as a classic future example of how NOT to strongly and self assuredly imply what other people are thinking and doing, but I refuse to go without having tried everything I can.

You convinced ME enough to not want to lynch you. Lack of motive + Lack of experience with Sig.

If the votes stay the same, I'd probably move to tie a wagon with you.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:02 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:18 pm 6 hours left in the day. Frustrating amount of vote spread, little engagement with the voters. Nobody is getting in there and trying to decide who to vote. Everyone just decided, argued their case when questioned, and then sat there.

Start campaigning, darnit!

I know I'm not much better, but I'm being suspected in two games right now, and I don't know which to give priority.

You such bad. Die.

You had such an opportunity to make a difference today, as a trusted voice in this thread, but this is bullcrap. Make a case or GTFO. I'm busy.

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:25 pm from the options, I had Marmot and Simon both down as scum reads. I don't feel good about Marmot's self-vote at all though. Like, it makes me question his scumminess.

Give me a town motivation for a self-vote

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:35 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:32 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:31 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:29 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:25 pm from the options, I had Marmot and Simon both down as scum reads. I don't feel good about Marmot's self-vote at all though. Like, it makes me question his scumminess.

Give me a town motivation for a self-vote

Based on personal experience, people who self-vote are far behind townies who don't want to impact the thread.

I've seen one case of a scum DrWilgy self vote, on this site, and RadicalFuzz in the vocaroo, and that's it. But Radical did it out of frustration, no one frustrated Marmot to self-vote. So what's the scum motivation for it?

...he was drunk on a friday night?

I believe nutella is referencing the WIFOM

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:42 pm Speedcuck why are you voting Simon?

What you call me boi? Oi'll stuff you.

*ahem*

Reasons that have been stated. Simon does things when he's town. He doesn't when he's mafia. He's not doing things. That's as simple as I can get it.

I am about to head to a wedding. I will not be back before Dayend. Final thoughts.

I hope people discuss and consolidate the votes in these last few hours, instead of just throwing tepid votes in the thread and letting the few players in the know do whatever they want.

Hard to put scumpeeps on their toes when the leading lynch has two or three votes.

I honestly think Simon is bad, for meta reasons if nothing else. I advocate that lynch. As far as other lynches go that have 2 votes (really guys, come on), Marmot isn't that bad. Dunya is not a lynch I want to make happen today. Neither am I.

Lapluie is still a townread. I hold to that.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:00 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:56 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:53 pm The most recent page of speedchuck's ISO is heavy in self-defense and neutral commentary. Indeed, the only "hunting" I see is an agreement with dunya wondering aloud about LC as Kano. He griped at confirmed dead civilian MacDougall again. Not great.

Why is griping at a dead civilian a bad look?

It's pointless. MacDougall is here for one phase presumably, and he wants speedchuck dead. I don't get the impression speedchuck has done anything with that other than voice his irritation. If he's innocent, then the direct interaction with the corpse-who-hates-him is lacking.

Go look at that ISO. Does it look to you like a civilian speedchuck dealing with an incorrect confirmed civilian? He hasn't given Mac the time of day other than to at him and pooh pooh his play.

On my phone. I asked mac to make a case on me. I haven't been hunting because I put the free time I had into the other game I am in

You're being obtuse

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:17 pm Note speedchuck and jack in chatzy instead of here

At wedding. Missing chunks of the topic.

Lynch me on my content if you want to, but don't use my attendance at a freaking wedding to throw shade. That's desperate and low.

I'm freaking trying. Ask me questions, because I can't catch up like this

Scum coming out of the woodwork to save Simon for no reason

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:45 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:43 pm Lynch me on my content if you want to, but don't use my attendance at a freaking wedding to throw shade. That's desperate and low.

I'm freaking trying. Ask me questions, because I can't catch up like this

Was there an open bar?

If not, you're getting my vote.

I don't drink. Vote me.

And no there isnt

Linki @jjj rammer was accusing me of being in chatty instead of playong

Thought it was rabbit my bad
Autocorrect

rabbit8 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:49 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:47 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:45 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:43 pm Lynch me on my content if you want to, but don't use my attendance at a freaking wedding to throw shade. That's desperate and low.

I'm freaking trying. Ask me questions, because I can't catch up like this

Was there an open bar?

If not, you're getting my vote.

I don't drink. Vote me.

And no there isnt

Linki @jjj rammer was accusing me of being in chatty instead of playong

Dude, calm down you're not even in the top two for a while. Seems overly defensive.

Trying to lynch Simon instead of dunya. Right now my best defense would be t go away and leave you guys to lynch dunya, but I no longer scum read her

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:51 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:49 pm Thought it was rabbit my bad
Autocorrect

So you think rabbit is desperate?

Why is rabbit desperate? Desperate for what?

To save Simon. I still think he was, and that this vote is a bus. But I'veonly skimmed the past 5 pages

Idk. Can't really add anything informed right meow w. Should have just been social

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:01 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:00 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:59 pm Simon is who the scum want to lynch. Agreed?

That makes him the worst candidate.

I'd rather lynch speedchuck.

speed is a higher scumspect than simon. I am down for this.

Since when?

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:04 pm I voted for speed because I felt he was in serious panic mode just now and then claims he was trying to save me, when it was all about him... sorry speed. I don't feel good about that.

I was the smallest wagon

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:52 pm

rabbit8 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:30 pm Tough lynch. Should have been a baddie. RIP.

Damn straight! We were handed a life line with the last night’s results and we just threw it away. I can’t see any logic voting Dunya over Simon in the first place and now we’re saying that Simon is Town?

I’m kinda glad that I won’t be around to endure this after the next 24 hours.

I don't know, is double targeting a thing in this game? You might be safe.

I, for the record, agree. After a sudden lynchswitch to Dunya, I'm even more certain that Simon is scum.

Somebody tell me why Simon is town after this lynch, because this is weird.

I'm going to be focusing on FotR Mafia for now. The split focus on today's lynches has been literally killing me, in both games. Expect me to tune in sometime around morning (morning being the beginning of D4)

Or before then because someone is going to mention me and I have no self-control

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:03 pm @speedchuck

When did you turn orange? What's orange mean?

Just now. I'm running the next Burglary. Post goes up soon! (maybe tomorrow)

Thanks everyone for not piling on suspicion while I was taking a sabbath from mafia today. I'll be back tomorrow!

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:27 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:53 pm I'm not a civilian.

I'm not mafia either.

I'm here to counterclaim this shit.

Overdeep analysis of this:

Jay claiming 3rd party, at first glance, seems to be geared toward not getting nightkilled. Marmot's claim then, true or false, is geared toward doubt of that claim. First we'll talk about one's motives, then the other.

If Jay is town, this is an interesting 3P-hunting technique as well as a smokescreen so that he doesn't get lynched before he can figure out the scumteam.
If Jay is mafia, this is a huge WIFOM gambit to throw everyone for a loop. Not sure how this fits with being taken off of the poll, but hidden abilities abound.
If Jay is 3P, obviously he wants to up his chances of survival. Can't win if dead.

I don't buy that Jay is town after this. He's not treating the role that way.

Marmot, on the other hand, is throwing doubt on that claim.
If Marmot is town, he's trying to make sure that Jay's claim does him all harm and no good whatsoever. He's also being marmot.
If Marmot is scum, he's... uh. Doing the same thing? Correct me if I'm wrong, but this makes a little less sense than the town!marmot motive.
If Marmot is 3P, he's infuriated that JJJ found a way to squeeze past the rules and claim his role, when Marmot would have been the first to do that if he'd known. Legit counterclaim.

Now let's talk about presentation and wording.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:27 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:53 pm I'm not a civilian.
I'm not mafia either.

I'm here to counterclaim this shit.

We have a lie detector, probably still living. That lie detector can't do much to warn us of things. But if either of these people were paying attention to the lie detector, or wanted their statements to be technically true, then JJJ would be the 3rd party and Marmot would be the liar.
Don't know how much people care about that. Lie detectors in game with claiming, like I'm used to, are scary as hell.

Something to think about.

I don't think Jay is town. Whether he's mafia or 3P depends on how much WIFOM he's prone to as mafia. And, y'know, his role card.
I don't see a good scum motive for marmot, but it's marmot. He could be anything and still do this.

Most likely to least likely pairings of Jay/Marmot, off the top of my head:
3P/Town
Mafia/3P
Mafia/Town
3P/Other 3P?
3P/Mafia
Town/3P
Town/Mafia
Town/Town

linki: Please visit a doctor, Eloh. This can't be normal. I'll be praying for you.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:47 pm speedchuck, your Jay/Marmot analysis makes me want to reconsider my read of you, but you haven't said much about anything else recently. Who do you want to lynch today?

JJJ and Simon.

I was breaking from mafia all yesterday. Didn't post relevant stuff in Fiddler either.
I still see no reason not to lynch Wilgy. Lapluie I still read as town, and I'm coming around on TSP. I don't know who I want to lynch for sure yet, but Made is a person I'm going to review before EOD, Wilgy is an option, and nutella and Marmot have been thrown around for one reason or another. That pool is a good place to start looking.

So, I have a separate question: What are we going to do about lurkers? Dave and Dom specifically. If we're 2 mislynches away from lylo or mylo, consider me concerned. If there are any town kills, these two along with Simon should be targets if we want a chance to win this.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:18 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:57 pmSo, I have a separate question: What are we going to do about lurkers? Dave and Dom specifically. If we're 2 mislynches away from lylo or mylo, consider me concerned. If there are any town kills, these two along with Simon should be targets if we want a chance to win this.

I think I see what you're saying, letting players who don't vote might be a mathematical risk going into the next few days, but I don't think they're worth using town resources like kills on.... I think if we have those things they should be used on the Jay's and the Simon's of the world. Mathematically it has the same effect of tipping the scales away from the mafia's reach.

I'm not actually talking about vote risk. Or at least, not immediately.

Let's say we mislynch today. Lynch Simon and JJJ next. One more mislynch would put us at MYLO, with no information about Dave or Dom. What then? If one of them is mafia, do we just HOPE that we pick the right one first? With 2 inactives, it'll be harder than ever to POE it down. It's an ugly situation, and one that I'd rather avoid.
Judging by the fact that there's a mafia protective role, Mileena, I have hope that this can be handled. Because unless we lynch straight scum from here out, it is probably going to be a problem.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:10 pm hmmm. not an amazing response tbh

Yeah, I didn't figure you'd like it.

Made wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:53 am

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:42 am RIP rabbit.

Not sure what to make of all this indie-claiming stuff but it feels like a distraction from scumhunting. Kano needs civs to die so I don't like it.

I disagree. I feel like indie hunting isn't unimportant. knowing who the indies are can help us figure out why people make the opinions they are making, and POE that issh

that said, what do we have on indie-claimy stuffs?

Linki- Dunya's in the game now? who did she sub in for, did she die?
What makes you so sure that simon is bad?
Have we lynched mafia yet?

I want opinions on this post, specifically the four questions Made asked when he came back from a few days absence.