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MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:33 pmWhat do you mean?speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:27 pmVery true.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:22 pm I think we need to be careful about splitting votes in case Angelus is the last vamp.
But with 2 votes, it does not matter.
There are only 2 votes on the board. Spread or no spread, doesn't matter if we only have two votes. I'm inviting you to get in here.I don't think he's cleared by infoMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:35 pm It seems like tranq is cleared by info or something? Why is he not being discussed?
I read everyone currently in the game as civ.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:37 pm I think sig is civ. He ha shown a civ mind towards his reads throughout the game.
LoRab wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:38 pm Tranq: Nice analysis.
Also, the night 1 post reads like recruitment, since Spike is with Angelus. Could be story telling, yes, but also makes sense of the hosts vaguely letting us know what's happening.
Of the interactions you name, I'm most concerned with Illy in general. My gut is reading her as bad. It's pure gut and meta, but she doesn't sound like civ illy. Especially the way she talks about the neutrals. It's almost like she is more suspicious of the than the Mafia--Glory as top concern makes sense, but the Mayor is her next top concern? Shouldn't the mafia be more concerning? (I could also see her as either the mayor or glory, for that matter, but I'm thinking vamp)Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:03 amMasterful Ploy"Oi!" cried Spike from the cave entrance. "Where's the blue-glowy-wall thing gone? I grabbed this bloke 'cause he received blood Buffy donated, and-"
"Too late, Spike!" taunted Angelus. "And it's a moot point anyway, since The Master is no longer taking house calls."
Spike looked down at a terrified Marmot. "Bloody hell. Don't need you any more then, do I?" And with that, he snapped Marmot's neck.
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This is why I was reading LoRab as town. This is how the Illy lynch started.speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:47 pm LoRab, I had you as like a top townread except for the role fishing, which wouldn't even be as bad if you hadn't denied it. But for today, I'm willing to chalk that up to "different backgrounds" (My background is closed setups with lots of role crap, and role fishing [in other words trying to get someone to talk directly about their role or what their role is not] was considered bad bad bad) because we share a common top scumread. Let's talk about that.
You read Illyria as scum for meta, gut, and a few posts. I've been reading her as scum because of tone and interactions, having never played a game with her before.
We arrived at the same conclusion for different, but complementary reasons. And I find that to be a good reason to vote.
Vampire. We think LoRab is vamp.Tranq wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:46 pm Do you think LoRab is Vampire or Glory? lapluie could've been Glory.
Glory is a goddess from an evil dimension. Attempts to detect Glory will result in a false and innocuous reading. Attempts to kill her at night will mostly fail- only the Slayer can kill her. Glory gets one kill every other night, and she must outlive everyone to win.
lapluie wasn't killed at night.
Is it an alignment hint?MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:06 pm I am unfamiliar with Buffy guys. You're barking up the wrong tree.
Also not a role hint.
What is this then?MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:26 pm Let's start by pointing out where I role hinted and work from there?
Are you treating alignment hinting and role-hinting as two separate things?MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:27 pmShe told me i had hinted and I asked her to show me where... because I haven't.speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:26 pmWhat is this then?MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:26 pm Let's start by pointing out where I role hinted and work from there?
I can see why she thought I had though.
"What color should I make you?"MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:22 pmSorry sir but you made me the wrong colour.speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:32 pm speedchuck
nutella
juliets
Kylemii
sig
Lapluie
MacDougall
novaselinenever
S~V~S
Ambray
Tranq
LoRab
Illyria
In rough order. My townreads, the top half of the list, are more certain than my scumreads.
This threw me for a long and wild loop fam
IndependentsMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:34 pmHaha how so?speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:32 pm"What color should I make you?"MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:22 pmSorry sir but you made me the wrong colour.speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:32 pm speedchuck
nutella
juliets
Kylemii
sig
Lapluie
MacDougall
novaselinenever
S~V~S
Ambray
Tranq
LoRab
Illyria
In rough order. My townreads, the top half of the list, are more certain than my scumreads.This threw me for a long and wild loop fam
You said that you have not alignment hinted.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:38 pmWhat makes you so sure I am not in that list?speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:36 pmIndependentsMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:34 pmHaha how so?speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:32 pm"What color should I make you?"MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:22 pmSorry sir but you made me the wrong colour.speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:32 pm speedchuck
nutella
juliets
Kylemii
sig
Lapluie
MacDougall
novaselinenever
S~V~S
Ambray
Tranq
LoRab
Illyria
In rough order. My townreads, the top half of the list, are more certain than my scumreads.This threw me for a long and wild loop fam
All Independents need to survive, and to have Glory dead to win.
Spike - He has two anytime kills. He has a modification chip and can’t kill any humans. If he targets a human his kill will fail. His love for Buffy is undying… *secrets*
Sweet - Switches two players each night, and may self-target.
Mayor Richard Wilkins III - The Mayor of Sunnydale, he has the ability to pardon one lynching. *secrets*
Adam - He is frighteningly tuned in to the world, and this level of awareness allows him to detect one role per night. Twice in the game, Adam can choose a player whose powers and votes will no longer be able to affect Adam.
Caleb - Caleb is a human who has been supernaturally endowed with power by the First Evil, whom he serves. Once each night, he can choose one of four abilities: cast a misinformation aura, causing all info roles to give false results; protect himself; give himself -5 votes in the following lynch; use the power of a dead player. Caleb must use each of these abilities across each four-night period.
LoRab, post links in the thread to where she posted trust in you?LoRab wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:05 pmAccording to information sent to me by Willow, Caleb has been dead since night 1.speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:58 pm Caleb
Buffy Summers
Daniel 'Oz' Osbourne
Cordelia Chase
Glory
Angelus
My guess as to the living roles. I don't think this counts as outing anyone. I could totally be wrong about some of these.
As to giving any evience to back up that claim, the info sent is why I trusted her early, especially after she posted trust in me (confirming for me that it was her). And I didn't share this earlier because I didn't want to share the information unless it was necessary.
Spike has not used both of his kills, according to the OP.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:41 pm I didn't alignment hint but that doesn't meant I am not coincidentally in that list.
That I don't have a dayvig doesn't mean I didn't have one before.
Right. Fails on humans. Crap.speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:42 pmSpike has not used both of his kills, according to the OP.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:41 pm I didn't alignment hint but that doesn't meant I am not coincidentally in that list.
That I don't have a dayvig doesn't mean I didn't have one before.
Willow could have sent you this info whether good or bad. I want to see this confirmation, personally, but I don't think it affects your alignment at all. Sorry.LoRab wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:05 pmAccording to information sent to me by Willow, Caleb has been dead since night 1.speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:58 pm Caleb
Buffy Summers
Daniel 'Oz' Osbourne
Cordelia Chase
Glory
Angelus
My guess as to the living roles. I don't think this counts as outing anyone. I could totally be wrong about some of these.
As to giving any evience to back up that claim, the info sent is why I trusted her early, especially after she posted trust in me (confirming for me that it was her). And I didn't share this earlier because I didn't want to share the information unless it was necessary.
I had a townread on you for most of the game, but I have a townread on everyone playing. Except Mac. I've had an indy read on him for days.
I'm not sure.
This is true. 3 v 1, one vote gets moved away. If the vote gets moves to the right person, then it's a tie.Me you, and mac could make it a tie at best, if we targeted a non-angelus player.LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:36 amBut we can try.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:35 am
But we can't lynch Angelus without all of the players helping today
Thanks SVS for that.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:39 am Nut, Kyle and Chuck were a bit too blatant with the role claiming. Us figuring who they were out didn't help an already mounting advantage.
Funnily enough, this is my meta as well, most of the time. When I'm mafia/3P, I'm supahtown (to everyone but you, apparently). When I'm a civ, I have to scrape by not to get mislynched.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:18 am Funny how I survived this game with barely a scratch and in every civ game recently I was mislynched or at least almost. Interesting meta for those industrious enough to use it.
You gotta learn my meta.S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:12 pmNo, thank Mac, Illy & Tranq who redirected Marmot and I at each other. I would have dropped it had I not thought Kyle was Angel, the more he fought it the surer I was. I get up at like 4:30, so I have to be in bed by 10, and I stayed up till the end of that lynch so I could savor your reveal as Darla, that's how sure I was. I was 100% sure I had stumbled onto the baddies on Night 1 ha ha. I thought I was civ of the weekspeedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:18 amThanks SVS for that.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:39 am Nut, Kyle and Chuck were a bit too blatant with the role claiming. Us figuring who they were out didn't help an already mounting advantage.
dunya wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:15 pmnice try, scumchuck.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:33 pm When I'm scum, nobody suspects me, and I can actually defend myself. When I'm town, people suspect me, and I'm always on the verge of getting lynched at some point, if I don't die almost immediately.
Until everyone realizes that this is my meta, it's going to stay my meta by proxy.
It's true. Look at my track record.Maybe it's because I try to mislynch you every time I'm bad.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:45 pmI suspect you every time your bad though. No one listens to woogrz.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:17 pmdunya wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:15 pmnice try, scumchuck.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:33 pm When I'm scum, nobody suspects me, and I can actually defend myself. When I'm town, people suspect me, and I'm always on the verge of getting lynched at some point, if I don't die almost immediately.
Until everyone realizes that this is my meta, it's going to stay my meta by proxy.
