The Syndicate

You were forced to vote MP, you say? I don't think I believe you.

Also I have no idea if someone used that Jawa thingamabob on Elohcin but I have been denied every single thing I've tried to buy this game.

Linki - Bullz should we lynch Dom next?

MacDougall wrote:Keep at it Matt, you'll be right about something one day.

I thought the Russ indy thing was verified and documented, not DFaraday.

Anywho, I don't believe your vote was forced. Hence ubad.

Bullzeye wrote:

Matt wrote:You were forced to vote MP, you say? I don't think I believe you.

Also I have no idea if someone used that Jawa thingamabob on Elohcin but I have been denied every single thing I've tried to buy this game.

Linki - Bullz should we lynch Dom next?

I don't actually suspect Dom, and he pretty much exclusively comes after me when I'm civ, so really his suspicion of me is a point in my favour. I'm considering following your obviously forced vote though just to see what would happen.

Dude what are you smokin' Bullz? I've been suspecting Mac for half the game.

But I would appreciate you voting for him, because he's def bad after his MP comment.

It was random.org influenced. Daisy came up number 2 on the list and I nearly voted her instead but then was like "Naaah Mac is definitely a Zeebs or MP buddy".

Bullz = Baddie bad badderson. I believe he could be a Hutt/Empire hybrid who is kidnapping Jawa's to make a Jawa Centipede.

Also gotta go to work. Vote Mac, peeps. He can't be trusted.

Shenanigans.

Bye Bullz. Just know I would never think you are bad and those that do must be the Mafia.

MacDougall wrote:I just read my ISO and I am playing this game exactly how I play as scum. I'm a wizard.

Totes.

Let's lynch this guy next.

Dom wrote:

MacDougall wrote:She said she was less certain of me now. How could she have been certain? To be less of something implies you once had it.

There are degrees of certainty... I'm just saying that this read as rather manipulaive.

So you just have a problem with what you saw as manipulation, or do you think Bubbles is good thus needs defending?

Daisy, I'll buy your vote for 50 credits and double vote Mac. Whattaya think?

MacDougall wrote:If you get me lynched after all the work I have put in and you are a civ I will be very pissed.

How I am your best candidate right now is beyond me.

Damn you sure know how to make a guy feel guilty and laugh out loud all at the same time. I simply don't believe you were forced to vote MP, though. I dunno.

But I'm sure there are other bad guys out there. And you have put in quite an awful lot of posts. What's up with Blooper and why is she skatin' by? Has she been cleared as an indy as well?

Gotta vote tonight.

I want to lynch a low poster. Bass, Bubbles, or Blooper.

Gonna vote Bass for voting my main suspect, Mac!

RIP Elo

Sorry everyone. I've been incredibly busy the last week or two and whenever I have the time to get on here, I find myself being silly instead of determined to find baddies.

Now that this is my only game, tomorrow I have off and will reread everyone still in the game (assuming dem baddies don't off me tonight!)

Top suspects as of right now, assuming Mac is civvie and telling the truth... the low posters including Bass, Bubbles, and Blooper.

However, I do think Mac was lying about force voting MP, so can we rally behind a Mac lynch? He even said he wants to die before Christmas!

A few things, Mac...

Barring info, I have no idea how you could possibly know who I am. But dat's cool, I civ.

Also, I've decided I'm going to drop my sus of you. At least you're like, ummmm playing, which is more then I can say for some others. I'll reveal why I think you were (are? lol) lying about the force vote at endgame, but as I said, you're putting in effort so eff it. I agree that Bubbles' "to stay consistent" vote is totally wtf and will be joining you on voting Bubbles.

I also wouldn't be opposed to a Bass lynch, either.

I can't read Daisy, but I'm still going to guess that Glorfindel wouldn't have transferred out if he had a team to work with.

I'll never trust Dom again (I didn't say in the game, but he actually started to convince me he was legit in AWR towards the end lol), but I have no specific reason to suspect him here.

Why do you think Blooper is indy, Mac? Did I miss something?

Also Bubbles, if you are civ, I apologize for me and behalf of Mac, considering we are your only two town reads. Lol

So check it. Just found out my roommates own the two trilogies, and will be watching them in chronological order before I see Force Awakens. I also have a Netflix subscription, and have never seen The Clone Wars movie or subsequent animated series.

Question(s) - A simple yes or no will suffice without any explanation, does Force Awakens discredit anything found in the Clone Wars movie or show? And even if it doesn't, would you recommend the movie/show, or should I just stick with the two trilogies?

Off to watch Phantom Menace now. Woot!

Oh and let's catch bad guys and stuff.

Hmm

Not sure if DH would consider an answer to my Force Awakens/Clone Wars question a "spoiler", so possibly best if someone could PM me the answer. Or just say it in the thread and face DH's wrath.

Cheers!

Wow.

Rip Bubbles, rip Bass (maybe).

Bye DF

Dom, DrWilgy, MacD, niju, Russ, Daisy

Confirmed baddies.

Dom wrote:

Matt wrote:Bye DF

Dom, DrWilgy, MacD, niju, Russ, Daisy

Confirmed baddies.

Nope.

Do you think we should lynch Mac or Wilgy today?

I've been utterly convinced that Glorfindel would not sub out if he had a team but we're gettin' down to the nitty gritty soooo

What was the og case on Glorfindel?

Fyi, still think Mac was fibbing about force voting. Let's get 'em!

Well I gotta jet.

I'm going to vote niju cuz eff it, one of the lurkers has to be bad.

Or vote Mac.

Hokey smokes! GlorDaisy was bad!

Oh, and ummmm I'm not Lando, Mac. However, you are correct that if I were bad, I probably would've offed you awhile ago haha!

That being said, feel free to keep me alive baddies since Mac sees me as a viable lynch candidate. Thankies!

Lol Mac

Actually, I feel rather effed up that I haven't played as "the other Matt" and gotten into the game as much as I should've when I agreed to replace back in. Unfortunately, the new job at the Cracker Barrel and the holiday season in general has kept me pretty busy.

Just because you were wrong on me being Lando doesn't make me mafia.

If you read through my posts, I'm pretty sure I've been consistent on NOT AT ALL believing Glorfindel (and Daisy) to be bad. I really didn't think the dude would replace out if he had a team to work with. However, just like Talking Heads re: Black Rock/Long Con, I thought it possible Daisy could only replace in as a baddie since she and MP are an item. Did anyone else pursue my line of questioning when I was asking Daisy if she was a baddie bad because of this? No? I was the only one? Cool beans.

Your assertion that literally everyone knew Daisy was bad, eff that. If that was the case, then why did SHE ONLY JUST NOW GET LYNCHED? Hmmmm?

Mac, I've tried to believe that I could be wrong about you fibbing on your forced vote, but assuming I live throughout the night (oh btw, thanks tons Wilgy for directing the baddies on how to win assuming you are indy), I'll be voting for you next day period.

Holy shit I'm tired.

I just contradicted myself by saying "NOT AT ALL" sussing GlorDaisy, followed by a few sentences where I explain how I did suss them.

Lol

But I think ya all know what I meant anyway.

What do we think of Russ? Someone (Mac, I'm pretty sure) said that Russ is most definitely Golden's jawa teammate? Or were we thinking that about DFaraday?

I only ask because on Day 2, Glorfindel was "torn" on voting between Bass and Enrique. Said he believed both were civ, so tossed his vote on Russ. I'm going to see what Daisy's interactions with Russ were.

Yes, I am desperately trying to find a reason not to vote Mac. Though my conscious is telling me that Mac is a lying liar about having to force vote, I'd rather not believe that as a baddie he's able to post so much content. That is scary crazy if so.

Off to read Daisy... (and if anyone can direct me to where we are definitely sure Russ is an indy, that'd be super too)

Just finished reading Glorfindel. LOTS of time spent looking at Russ. Given that we have no meta whatsoever on Glor, I don't know if he often goes after teamies or not.

Has some back and forths with both MacD and Elohcin (3P0). Thanked Wilgy for giving him a vote during one of the night polls.

Hmmm

Wilgy. I have no idea what role you are claiming with your last post when you were directing the baddies on how to win. Derp.

K, off to read Daisy now. Will also go over Russ, see if he ever responds to Glor's accusations.

Okay wtf

Someone please direct me to where we know Russ is some kind of indy or whatever.

So early on (Day 1, I believe), Russ votes MP for being "bad to the bone". Then during the subsequent night phase, MP asks Russ about this and Russ says "Oh I only had 3 minutes to vote so I haha voted you" and that was that. MP also suspects Russ at some point, though. Later on, MP "susses" Glorfindel for Glorfindel's suspicions of Russ. Later on, when we were debating whether to keep Zebra alive or not, Russ wanted to know why everyone thought MP or Daisy were bad.

This feels like a clustereff of baddies voting and sussing each other. What do we think?

(still looking for a Daisy post somewhere...her ISO isn't on page 1)

Linki - Fair enough, Wilgy. You said something about directing your vote, and looking over the indy roles, I didn't see any such role power for indies but there are secrets too, I suppose.

What about Russ, Wilgy? Can you direct me to where we believe he is an indy?

Oh, btw, of the billions of posts Glor made suspecting Russ, Russ only responds to ONE of them. And that one, was where Glor was sussing five or six people at the same time.

Daisy's Mentions of Russ In Thread: Zero

Her second to last post in the game, says she wants to go after low posters. Doesn't mention Russ, but mentioned Bubbles and Bass.

Also, I can see Mac being her teamie based on their interactions. She was pretty meany head towards Mac at some point, and I don't remember Daisy ever acting like that, so perhaps she was fake being meany head towards Mac? Hmmm

Lol I have a day off and nobody is around to play with me

Okey dokey, off to watch Return of the Jedi woot! Then hopefully in the next week, I can catch up with the rest of the world and check out Force Awakens.

Derp. I'm not Empire, Mac, however, I did just bid everything I have on that sweet toy Epig promoted.

Fingers crossed!

MacDougall wrote:Matt is the force voter and that makes him bad. His adamance that I wasn't force voted is because Matt is incapable of deducting that in a game with a character that says "can use light and dark force powers" there is likely to be multiple functions that do the same thing.

DrWilgy is Hutt and I am voting for him.

Lol

Dude actually, I have thought that there were possibly two different force voters with different conditions. That's why I keep goin' back and forth on you. However, your argument with Dom is feeling fake to me.

Oh, and you are...um once again...wrong about my role. But snap would that be a cool power! Whattaya say, DH/Epig? Gimme somethin' to do over here!

Btw your signature is hilarious, Mac. Even funnier if your "fight" with Dom is on the up and up.

I'm not sure who to vote for. Wilgy, Dom - I admit I've been effin' busy as shit and I wouldn't even know where to begin to look, but do you two agree with Mac that Russ and Niju are good to go? If you two agree, I'm down with keeping the lynch candidates to myself, Mac, and the two of you. If you don't agree, then speak up.

Matt wrote:Dude actually, I have thought that there were possibly two different force voters with different conditions.

Just rereading my post, and noticed this, and thought "Wow, someone might see this and say 'Did Matt just admit to being one of the force voters?' " So I wanted to come back and say "No. That is not what I meant by that. I would ask you to see the underlined portion but I realize that won't make any sense to you. Carry on."

Russtifinko wrote:

Dom wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:

MacDougall wrote:MP was right? You do realise that MP was Empire as was Daisy ergo right isn't really the word I'd use.

Well, they were both right.

Mac, I'm down to try to help you out, here. Why Matt today, specifically, of the 3? My understanding is you think he, Dom, and Wilgy are all bad, and that he's one of 2 Empire. I guess I don't see how killing him today helps you out.

Lynching me helps no one tbqh.


I think Mac is in need of a calming down. Any reason why he can't be bad that I can't remember? I'm just trying to get my numbers straight and wondering if I'm making a false assumption.

Yeah no, he could totally be bad as well.

Russtifinko wrote:Well I'm voting now before I forget yet again. I believe at least that Mac is civ, if not necessarily that he's right about everything. So since he and Wilgy are the only ones with votes and I don't wanna spread it too much, my vote goes to Wilgy.

Happy new year (soon) everyone!

Lol.

Anyway, I have a few hours before I have to vote. I'm still thinking Dom and Mac's arguments are fake.

So apparently, Dom said he tried to reach peace with Mac through the MoD, but Mac said he never received anything of the sort? Then, in the middle of their big argument, Mac thinks it'd be wise to make his signature the way it is?

Feels phony. I've seen Mac (genuinely, well at least I think genuinely) apologize and be cool with peeps he's had argument with, so for him to taunt Dom even more just doesn't sit right. Still have a few hours, but I'm going to vote Mac now.

Wilgy, you think Niju will vote for you?

Derp. Sorry Mac. Believe it or not, I'm pretty sad I was wrong about you. When you find out I am civ you'll probably be pissed lol but good game, though!

RIP Russ

Why is Mac still on the poll?

Anywho, so it's down to me, Wilgy, Dom, or Niju?

Well, Mac was pretty adamant about Niju being on the level so either Dom or Wilgy.

Not me, though, definitely not me nosireebob!

DrWilgy wrote:This game has been fun.

I'll vote along with whoever votes first. (as long as it's not me of course )

Let's vote Niju. I know she's apparently Jawa but I have a sweet plan that might work if you're a civ, Wilgy.

Of course that sounds utterly preposterous but very true, I swearsies!

*puts iced tea in DH's cup*

In case that means I'm victorious.

Wilgy, nevermind. Plan won't work. Let's vote Dom or you!

I wonder if the Empire has been eliminated, and DF was the last Empire. There was no kill two nights ago, and that was the Empire's kill. Pretty sure Wilgy or Dom would send in their kill. And now that we know Mac's alignment for sure, I'm going to completely believe all the Niju is indy hype.

If we correctly lynch a baddie, I think the civs can win.

Wilgy, you're saying Dom knows who you are? If that's the case, let's lynch him then. But before we lynch Dom, I'd like for him to concur that he knows your role.

If you're indy, Wilgy, and we believe Mac on Niju, that means Dom must be the final baddie. Has to be.

Really, I'd say Wilgy and Niju control the game if they are the last indies. I'm good, Dom's bad. It's really up to you guys whether you want the dark side to prevail or the super duper totally bad ass jedi side.

DrWilgy wrote:So vote for him...

I don't care which side wins, I just need to protect myself here. I know quite confidently that I can survive as long as a vote is placed. (just not on me)

Even though he'd be outing himself as a baddie to me (but not you guys, I guess) by admitting he knows your role, I'd still like Dom to concur that he knows your role, Wilgy, before I vote for him.

DrWilgy wrote:Mm'k then..

If he votes you before you vote him (and he's bad) I'm pretty sure he wins. I'm sticking to my word here and will go with the first.

That's not very nice. Why can't we just wait for him to concur he knows your role?

Eh, if I lose, it's cool beans anyway as I haven't given this game the attention it deserved as it is.

But yeah, I'm gonna wait for Dom to concur he knows your role. If that means you follow his vote, so be it.

Niju, if Dom comes in here and votes for me, then Wilgy follows, wouldja be a pal and help me vote Dom? Haha. I'd at least like to have a chance to win it for the civvies.

This is all assuming Dom agrees he knows Wilgy's role and Wilgy isn't a liar liar pants on fire.

DrWilgy wrote:That won't be happening Matt. See that quote I conveniently quoted? I do really think that this is the end.

Don't worry about that thing. Pretty sure it shoots blanks.

Hey Wilgster...

So I was ISOing you and Dom, and anyway...

In one post, Dom was asking you to unpoison him, like he did know your role and power, so I'm starting to believe you now.

Hmmm.

Also, lots of suspish on Zebra but never votes her until she outs herself. And even on that day, he posted first that he was thinking about going with Mac on not lynching her, and feels out the thread by asking peeps who they plan on voting for before finally deciding that he would indeed be voting Zebra. Lol.

You think he's the last Hutt?

Lol @ Dom.

I've played one of the shadiest games of all time, and you say "Extremely good game if you're a Hutt". Also, noticed you didn't refute Wilgy's claim where he said you knew his role.

Well Dom, you've probably won if Niju votes for me as well.

Voting Dom.

Niju, if you can win with anyone, doesn't matter where you vote. If you can only win with civs, I ask that you vote Dom with me. Thankies!

Good luck town (er...me) !

And it's all good, Wilgy. If you are indy, though, and not the last baddie, I'll remember that as an indy, you have no interest in helping civs win and to not let you slide in the future.

Btw, Good game to the rest of the Final Four! I've enjoyed playing, I wish I had more time to invest in this one.