The Syndicate

Chris wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
It's day 11. Enough with the role checker nonsense.
And here I thought the English teacher would know what an analogy was.

He does. And he can readily differentiate between an analogy and a simile.

Chris wrote:OH MY FUCKING GOD!

I said zeek was acting LIKE a noob role checker who just checked his first baddie...

I didn't say he WAS the role checker...

Fuck.

Which is why it's a simile and not an analogy.

Chris wrote:I'm done here.

If I only had a dollar every time...

Snow Dog wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Chris wrote:I'm done here.
If I only had a dollar every time...
You'd have three....four dollars?

I'll take.

keys56000000000 wrote:
zeek wrote:I am not being impossible and rude. I'm lynching a baddie. Nothing personal

keys - We don't want to avoid a Dom lynch.
Yeah, I can't help but feel like you're trying to force the issue here. Juliets, Snow Dog, if you're civs, which I believe you are, but y'know, recruitment shenanigans aside, take your votes off Dom, Zeek's case really ain't that great.

And what about mine?

keys56000000000 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
keys56000000000 wrote:
zeek wrote:I am not being impossible and rude. I'm lynching a baddie. Nothing personal

keys - We don't want to avoid a Dom lynch.
Yeah, I can't help but feel like you're trying to force the issue here. Juliets, Snow Dog, if you're civs, which I believe you are, but y'know, recruitment shenanigans aside, take your votes off Dom, Zeek's case really ain't that great.
And what about mine?
You don't strike me as a fellow who is easily persuaded, so I didn't attempt to, but if, as I suspect, you are a civilian, I would urse you also to change your vote.

Do you have a role in mind for Dom? I do.

keys56000000000 wrote:Question for all: What do we know about Zeek? I feel like he's been getting a pass because he was rezzed.

I trust him 100%.

Where were you on the night of January 16th, 2014?

nijuukyugou wrote:I find it amusing that I am a "wild card." Immensely amusing But I'm really not that wild if you think about it. Not in the thread, at least

You're not wild in real life either. Boring ass English teacher who'd rather read Chaucer than shoot heroin off a stripper's knee.

Long Con wrote:Keys, why should anyone trust you enough to just vote someone because you say so? Are you SuperGut, the most powerful gut-based detective around?

Epig, I didn't think your case on Dom was that strong because I don't understand the basic assumption: that Dom or Nijuu has to be The Master. Why can't Hedgeowl be The Master, or Keys?

"Crazy Little Thing Called Logic"

I want to see someone shoot heroin off a strippers knee.

I've never gone to a strip club and now that's fucking up my grammar!

Long Con wrote:Okay, I voted for Snow Dog. It looks like Dom is going to be lynched anyway, but anything could happen. I just don't feel comfortable following Epig's claims about Dom without any substantiation, and although I feel Zeek's passion for this idea, I don't think that amount of evidence for his case amounts to more than what I saw in Snow Dog's posts that some, including I, deemed "Bass supportive".

Dom is one of my number one candidates to be The Master, but it's just based on the way he seems like an enigma... his play, and the relative lack of suspicion he has received until recently, seems like The Master! Pure gut, and I'm hesitant to follow pure gut (unlike keys?). To be honest, I also feel like Strax would be smart to play the same way. But hell, what role wouldn't benefit from a game of little suspicion and relative spotlight-free play?

If you want games with substantiation, try "Battleship."

This is Mafia.

Long Con wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Long Con wrote:Okay, I voted for Snow Dog. It looks like Dom is going to be lynched anyway, but anything could happen. I just don't feel comfortable following Epig's claims about Dom without any substantiation, and although I feel Zeek's passion for this idea, I don't think that amount of evidence for his case amounts to more than what I saw in Snow Dog's posts that some, including I, deemed "Bass supportive".

Dom is one of my number one candidates to be The Master, but it's just based on the way he seems like an enigma... his play, and the relative lack of suspicion he has received until recently, seems like The Master! Pure gut, and I'm hesitant to follow pure gut (unlike keys?). To be honest, I also feel like Strax would be smart to play the same way. But hell, what role wouldn't benefit from a game of little suspicion and relative spotlight-free play?
If you want games with substantiation, try "Battleship."

This is Mafia.
Well... most, if not all players attempt to substantiate their claims in this game, why won't you? It's pushing me away from voting Dom because it makes you seem bad. Like, you don't have a real reason to say these things, but instead are being manipulative like an evil dude. You could be The Master. The Master isn't a rolechecker or on a team with a rolechecker, that was your original lie detector statement, right?

I have no problem with seeming bad. I always seem bad. I could make a career out of it.

How do you substantiate your claims against LMS?

I'm just goin by a spreadsheet, Chief.

I never get replaced.

Long Con wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Long Con wrote:Okay, I voted for Snow Dog. It looks like Dom is going to be lynched anyway, but anything could happen. I just don't feel comfortable following Epig's claims about Dom without any substantiation, and although I feel Zeek's passion for this idea, I don't think that amount of evidence for his case amounts to more than what I saw in Snow Dog's posts that some, including I, deemed "Bass supportive".

Dom is one of my number one candidates to be The Master, but it's just based on the way he seems like an enigma... his play, and the relative lack of suspicion he has received until recently, seems like The Master! Pure gut, and I'm hesitant to follow pure gut (unlike keys?). To be honest, I also feel like Strax would be smart to play the same way. But hell, what role wouldn't benefit from a game of little suspicion and relative spotlight-free play?
If you want games with substantiation, try "Battleship."

This is Mafia.
Well... most, if not all players attempt to substantiate their claims in this game, why won't you? It's pushing me away from voting Dom because it makes you seem bad. Like, you don't have a real reason to say these things, but instead are being manipulative like an evil dude. You could be The Master. The Master isn't a rolechecker or on a team with a rolechecker, that was your original lie detector statement, right?
I have no problem with seeming bad. I always seem bad. I could make a career out of it.

How do you substantiate your claims against LMS?

I'm just goin by a spreadsheet, Chief.
Well, I don't have a spreadsheet, Pal. How about sharing? Didn't yo momma teach you to share? Your spreadsheet has the ability to translate back into the game-based events that led to its current state, right? So, what events led you to cross off keys, Hedgeowl, everyone else except Dom and Nijuu, from being The Master? I don't understand your refusal to explain your logic, it makes no sense to me. Are you claiming that your refusal to share the logic is a ploy to make you seem more baddie?

I cannot share that info without outing myself. Sorry. I don't do that. Even if it is allowed here.

Long Con wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I cannot share that info without outing myself. Sorry. I don't do that. Even if it is allowed here.
And if Dom turns up Civvie, you'll be committed to Nijuu being the Master?

Yes.

Dom won't be lynched. Ten bucks.

Long Con wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Dom won't be lynched. Ten bucks.
If Dom is Strax, will you vote for yourself next lynch?

If Dom ain't, will you vote for yourself?

Long Con wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Dom won't be lynched. Ten bucks.
If Dom is Strax, will you vote for yourself next lynch?
If Dom ain't, will you vote for yourself?
No, that makes no sense. I'm not making the case he's Strax or not Strax, it's not my name on the line here.

If I'm right, will you vote how I want you to vote from here on out?

Of course not. So why ask what you asked?

Dom wrote:Welp, I'm gonna be honest with you all-- it's gonna look a lot like me being the Master-- and this is why I didn't want to be lynched.

But, alas, I am not.

Thanks for the warning, feb.

Dom wrote:I am so saddened that THIS is how we play Mafia now.

People playing horribly is causing people to come to faulty conclusions. Love it.

Am I playing horribly? If so, please let me know how.

DFaraday wrote:
Dom wrote:I am so saddened that THIS is how we play Mafia now.

People playing horribly is causing people to come to faulty conclusions. Love it.
I do think this game really got out of hand in a few different ways, and I'm as much to blame as anyone. I'm actually going to feel kind of bad if it turns out you are the Master at this point because of the lack of deductive reasoning any of us (except Zeek) used to get there.

EBWOP: Wow, LC, you're saying pretty much the exact opposite of what I said.

What?

Long Con wrote:Everyone wants The Master dead ASAP, Civvies and Recruiter alike.

Zeek, if you hadn't insisted that you *know* that Dom is The Master, then you would have nothing but congratulations for good detective work. You understand why I came to that conclusion, right? I mean, no hard feelings because it makes sense, maybe? Doesn't it??

What about me, sir?

Long Con wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Long Con wrote:Everyone wants The Master dead ASAP, Civvies and Recruiter alike.

Zeek, if you hadn't insisted that you *know* that Dom is The Master, then you would have nothing but congratulations for good detective work. You understand why I came to that conclusion, right? I mean, no hard feelings because it makes sense, maybe? Doesn't it??
What about me, sir?
Well, unfortunately, if Zeek is The Recruiter and failed to recruit Dom because The Master can't be recruited... then your own information that you can't reveal about why Dom is The Master could easily spring from you being a recruit and having access to the same info Zeek does. Or you being the Recruiter and Zeek being a recruit also works in that scenario... Zeek would be an excellent recruit since we know he's not Cyber or Dalek, and you'd be a good recruit because you're influential and hard to nail down as a baddie.

Hmm.

What if I told you that I was good, got recruited, then got recruited AGAIN, and then got a new power.

That'd be trippy, wouldn't it?

Long Con wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Long Con wrote:Everyone wants The Master dead ASAP, Civvies and Recruiter alike.

Zeek, if you hadn't insisted that you *know* that Dom is The Master, then you would have nothing but congratulations for good detective work. You understand why I came to that conclusion, right? I mean, no hard feelings because it makes sense, maybe? Doesn't it??
What about me, sir?
Well, unfortunately, if Zeek is The Recruiter and failed to recruit Dom because The Master can't be recruited... then your own information that you can't reveal about why Dom is The Master could easily spring from you being a recruit and having access to the same info Zeek does. Or you being the Recruiter and Zeek being a recruit also works in that scenario... Zeek would be an excellent recruit since we know he's not Cyber or Dalek, and you'd be a good recruit because you're influential and hard to nail down as a baddie.
Hmm.

What if I told you that I was good, got recruited, then got recruited AGAIN, and then got a new power.

That'd be trippy, wouldn't it?
Yes, very trippy!

Also, Chris, I wanted to let you know what your quote signature was supposed to say... what the Generator made it into is 1000x better, but the original statement was "Strax's kill tonight hopefully factors into my suspicions."

That didn't happen, I'm sorry to say, but there we are.

Friction is largely fiction.

Chris wrote:I agree. But even if Strax is alive, it's still going to take 2 lynches to kill Dom.

That's 2 Cyber kills to one Master kill.

And then... what if Snow is the last Cyber? We can eliminate a nightly kill right here. And to be honest, I wouldn't be shocked if Sabie, Bass and Snow were the last of the Cybers. TH 1.0 or Splints could have been a Cyber.

And what, sir, am I?

Chris wrote:My back up plan.

I'm always someone's back up plan.

Chris wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
Chris wrote:Really Dom?

Way to stay classy man.
Don't even go there
I'd post a response to this, but it'll probably get deleted.

Yeah, it probably would.

Thank you bea and bwt. This was a mind-boggling event!

Roxy wrote:Why wouldn't anyone listen or see that Epi was bad? I knew he was during the Made/Enrique lynches and he more or less outed himself in the thread yet I was the only one besides SVS to see it. Then when Sabie voted for me she basically outed herself as well. Why lynch me over them when I was not even able to be here to defend?
I know we were asked not to say anything inre: Infodumps but I will say they do suck.

Epi - you incredible bastard!
So hard to get you lynched - I dare say near impossible - my hat is off to you!

I was trying to play an "obvious bad guy" this time around, because people like to say "nobody would be that obvious!" You sank your teeth into that bullshit and didn't let go!

Roxy, you are one of the few players across the board in any game that makes me genuinely, sweatingly, NERVOUS.

fingersplints wrote:My favorite part of the game was tha day when Epig was lynched and he said he wasn't going to be a bitch and vote to save himself. Little did he know he couldn't save himself anyways because I targeted him the night before and his vote didn't count anyways.

That's funny right there.

As I said before, the "bitch" comment was only said because it amused me. I was a dog.

Long Con wrote:Did anyone think Long Con 1.0 was Rory? I did two role hints, and I would like to think that I did them the right way.

When we tried to kill keys and it got redirected to you and blocked, I had a hunch.

And let the record show that I wasn't trying to cheat the lie detector. Just balls. Big ones.

Oooh, and I get one, don't I?

I wonder if bea will be hosting anymore games in the future.

Although maybe not because of her professional duties.

I mean, I had a lot of fun playing this game.

And heck, I didn't even know very much about Dr. Who.

Maybe I do better when I don't know the theme very well.

I wonder if spamming the Dr. Who thread will make MP and MM mad.

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