The Syndicate

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:56 am First scum read of the game was Epi. I'll give a cookie to anyone that tells me why.

Because he’s being low key?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:24 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:03 am Mac pretending to suspect me means absolutely nothing. He literally does every game we play together.
What does that mean? Unless it's a running joke, it usually means something. He either really suspects you or he's faking it. It doesn't feel completely fake here, the smirky tone coupled with his general inactivity makes it genuine.

I compiled a list in a game several months ago:

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:19 pm Here's Mac tinfoiling me in the GoC. I was town.
Here's Mac tinfoiling me in A World Asunder. I was town. He was not.
Here's Mac tinfoiling me in Mega Man. I was town.
Here's Mac tinfoiling me in IASIP. I am town.

It's happened a few more times since then. I don't think he's serious anyway. He gave his seriousness a 3/10 earlier.

So it tells me nothing about his alignment.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:17 pm Sloonei, how did you arrive at that PoE of 4?

timmer was town at the wazoo on Day 1.
Epi and Long Con have not looked they’re trying to deceive or misguide the thread at any point.
Michelle’s early posts upon subbing in looked like someone who both wanted to solve the game and was not informed about specific happenings.
Wilgy has been relatively engaged at times, and I think one specific post of his pointed to an earnest effort to read Creature post-flip for teammate interactions.
sig flipped out after we lynched Creature and thought we should have lynched me instead. No teammate is going to react that way.

DDL has done nothing that I think is incompatible with him being scum and I have found more questionable content in his ISO than anyone else’s.
Tony has not done anything that strongly suggests that he is either alignment to me.
Sorhanova did nothing until right now.
Mac did nothing for days and then showed up and did his Mac shtick for 10 minutes and left.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:35 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:39 pm No seriously I wanted to write poems about how civ Quin was

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:34 pm Damn I tried not to make it too obvious that Quin was extremely civ but I guess that was obvious to the mafia too.
Does scum!DDL make these comments just after murdering poor Quin in cold-blood?

These posts come after he had publicly stated (and drawn attention to) his desire not to share reads during the night phase. I do not like the way that post, coupled with these ones here, seems to suggest that DDL is responsible for Quin getting killed by having town read him too much. It seems phony and a little calculated.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:08 pm That brings me to Epi, DDL, Michelle and Tony. We got them boys

Sell me on Michelle.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:17 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:09 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:08 pm That brings me to Epi, DDL, Michelle and Tony. We got them boys
Sell me on Michelle.
I haven't really seen anything from her that screamed to me. Feels like she's been walking on eggshells since she subbed on, and is being very safe. A lot of asking mild questions, clarifications and not enough conclusions I feel.

I do not feel like that is an accurate representation of Michelle’s posts. She’s stated a lot of reads.

[mention]novaselinenever[/mention] [mention]Michelle[/mention] who’s more suspicion: Tony or DDL?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:36 pm Talk to me about Epi, Sloonei. Think it's a slam dunk

I have caught scum epi multiple times in the past (and been fooled by him multiple times), and every time i’ve caught it’s been because I was able to identify something specific in his play. I don’t want to go into too much detail about it because that would give him ammunition in the future.

But I have not seen anything from him this game that resembles those past games in here.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:47 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 7:19 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:37 pm Sloonei can you make your case against DDL more succinct? What’s your problem with the “foreshadowing emotions”?
I don't have a succinct case, I was just going through ISOs and commenting on things that stood out to me. A lot of things stood out unfavorably for DDL.

But since you asked about the "foreshadowing" point in particular: I thought it looked odd, perhaps disingenuous, that DDL made this post where he attempted to assign a read to your emotions about the Day 1 lynch, and then later adopted the exact same emotions he was projecting onto you. Something about the progression feels off. Like, if he was feeling that way about the lynch when he commented on your response I would expect him to express more direct sympathy towards it, rather than to offer speculation and hypothetical sympathy ("a sentiment I've felt myself before" rather than "a sentiment that I agree with"). This sequence makes his own outrage about the issue seem false or fabricated.
There is a factor you are not taking into account.

I made those posts while catching up.

My sentiment about the CFD thing changed as I read through the night posts and got angrier about them. That's why the early posts are merely agreement and the later ones are more emotional.

Fair point

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:57 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:49 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:17 pm Sloonei, how did you arrive at that PoE of 4?
timmer was town at the wazoo on Day 1.
Epi and Long Con have not looked they’re trying to deceive or misguide the thread at any point.
Michelle’s early posts upon subbing in looked like someone who both wanted to solve the game and was not informed about specific happenings.
Wilgy has been relatively engaged at times, and I think one specific post of his pointed to an earnest effort to read Creature post-flip for teammate interactions.
sig flipped out after we lynched Creature and thought we should have lynched me instead. No teammate is going to react that way.

DDL has done nothing that I think is incompatible with him being scum and I have found more questionable content in his ISO than anyone else’s.
Tony has not done anything that strongly suggests that he is either alignment to me.
Sorhanova did nothing until right now.
Mac did nothing for days and then showed up and did his Mac shtick for 10 minutes and left.
What is "looking like they are trying to misguide the thread" supposed to be.

If I'm scum I stick my head in the sand and just pray pepple forget about me, and if my teammates are doing the game I don't try to misguide jack shit.

You are neither Long Con nor Epignosis.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:18 pm Sloonei just won a game by engaging in insane bussing, the kind that gets sockies awarded.

Maybe he wouldn't want to push his luck in a second scum roll.

You can’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs.

DDL’s paranoia about me is the kind of skepticism I like to see in a civilian.

The nightkills so far are the type that I think Epi would make.

Does anyone not have Mac in their POE?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:29 pm So i'm thinking if all four turtles are civ then mafia has a very strong incentive to kill them all. They can't really wifom their way out of it.

But if at least one of them is bad, maybe mafia lets to get the others leave since that member being bad forces town to eventually lynch some of them. True, it may be still smart to kill some of them, but maybe not all of them.

What I mean is that those kills say good things about Sloon and Timmer I guess.

I’d been waiting all day for someone to make this point.

If I was bad, I wouldn’t be making kills that leave me exposed.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:06 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:00 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:29 pm So i'm thinking if all four turtles are civ then mafia has a very strong incentive to kill them all. They can't really wifom their way out of it.

But if at least one of them is bad, maybe mafia lets to get the others leave since that member being bad forces town to eventually lynch some of them. True, it may be still smart to kill some of them, but maybe not all of them.

What I mean is that those kills say good things about Sloon and Timmer I guess.
I’d been waiting all day for someone to make this point.

If I was bad, I wouldn’t be making kills that leave me exposed.
I was surprised you didn’t delineate this when I asked earlier. I don’t necessarily buy it but I do think it’s as clear as night kill analysis gets.

What?

[VOTE: macdougall] aubergine

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:21 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:21 pm [VOTE: macdougall] aubergine

I could also go for you.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:17 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:20 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:06 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:00 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:29 pm So i'm thinking if all four turtles are civ then mafia has a very strong incentive to kill them all. They can't really wifom their way out of it.

But if at least one of them is bad, maybe mafia lets to get the others leave since that member being bad forces town to eventually lynch some of them. True, it may be still smart to kill some of them, but maybe not all of them.

What I mean is that those kills say good things about Sloon and Timmer I guess.
I’d been waiting all day for someone to make this point.

If I was bad, I wouldn’t be making kills that leave me exposed.
I was surprised you didn’t delineate this when I asked earlier. I don’t necessarily buy it but I do think it’s as clear as night kill analysis gets.
What?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:27 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:16 am wait why am I accepting TMNT town status as near gospel again someone explain this to me
Well we’re half dead now.
I figured you'd just say it here.

Because I didn't want to be the one to say it because then someone else can make an argument about WIFOM.
But "we're half dead now" is as close I was gonna get.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 12:25 am I'm a civilian because I was the first to call out Creature, and I don't bus unless necessary.

I know that that's weak given I gave a few other people shit in the same way, but I was honest about it.

Do with that what you will. I'm good.

I am trying to read Epi as scum, but I don't see this post coming from him unless he's being honest. "I wouldn't do X if I was bad" doesn't feel like the kind of argument he'd make if he was bad.

I have no evidence to back this up.

If there is an argument for Epi to be bad, it's that this game has been relatively quiet since Day 1, and Epi's relatively low level of participation has done nothing to change this, and if anything it has helped to maintain the status quo. I don't believe very strongly in this argument.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:23 am Hey it's tomorrow. I see Dom was lynched. That was quite unfortunate. Sorry about that Dom.

I am enjoying reading a game where people are forced to make assertions and shit against me based on nothing. I've not lived this long in a game I've lurked before. I can't promise I won't continue to.

I will however say that Sloonei and TSP pinged me. Epignosis also has some content that I was surprised to see was his. His tone is unusual.

Sloonei is playing quite within himself. I don't think he is a town voice. TSP 's post count list is pretty busyworkish. TSP where's your obvious town play?

Michelle I like. Sig and LC has this weird moment where they coalesced some equally unwarranted suspicion towards her which could be btsc leakage.

This is the most substantial post mac has made, and most of his follow up chatter was "Sloonei is scum", so I'm not sure how much any of these words really matter. Michelle is the only player he does not read negatively here. I'm intrigued by the point about LC and sig though.

I assume this is what Mac was talking about:

Spoiler: show

I agree with neither of these suspicions, but I'm not sure I see the coordination that Mac is talking about. It also reminds me of something I saw last night when I happened to glance through an old game. I'll post about that in a minute. stay tuned, folks.

In A World Asunder, Mac was scum and tried to turn a lynch around on me because I had expressed suspicion against his teammate (juliets) on Day 1 after another civilian (G-man) had introduced a case against her (link).

Mac was attempting to argue that our benevolent host G-man and I had coordinated an attack against an easy civilian target. But we were both civilians, and the person he was defending was actually his scum partner. I'm not arguing that the exact same scenario is playing out right now, but the similarities are striking: Macdougall is arguing that two players (Long Con and sig) are launching a coordinated attack against a civilian target, who could presumably be seen as an easy target (Michelle).

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:49 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:39 pm If there is an argument for Epi to be bad, it's that this game has been relatively quiet since Day 1, and Epi's relatively low level of participation has done nothing to change this, and if anything it has helped to maintain the status quo. I don't believe very strongly in this argument.
Haven't been around.

You people wanted music last night. I gave you music.

You wanted your game to fill. I helped make that happen.

I don't know what to tell you.

When people learn that Epignosis' level of activity is 100% tied to his amount of free time and not his alignment, the better off people will be.

Yes. This is how I actually feel. I'm not inclined to vote for you.

I have no direct reason to suspect DrWilgy. Unless someone makes a compelling argument for him to be scum, I won't be voting for him today.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:09 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:25 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:48 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:01 pm Hiya TSP.

Who's Quin's teamate?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:02 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:00 pm i swear to god im going to set you on fire
That's hot.
Reading DrW's Iso, not much, but i see a shade towards Quin and i don't like this.
Goes in my scum pile.
This is all?
I think I didn't have time for a case and posted just conclusion.
You posted me in the bad ppl pile, why are you voting with me now? Do you share my pov when is so poorly expressed?

Talk to me about mac and ddl if you can. How do you feel about each of them?

nova's been a little too easygoing for my liking since he subbed in.

Spoiler: show

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:24 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:03 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:52 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:45 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:45 am I'm town, Mac is town and DDL is town. Don't know about Tony.

Bad poe Slonei, bad

DDL's rant about people circle-jerking is hard town. Same with inactive/not fully engaged Mac suspecting you strongly. Both are very genuine.
I believe DDL’s feelings about the hot potato lynch reflect an honest position of his, but I don’t think that indicates that he is town in this game.
You actually may be right

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:03 pm Hmmm, the not wanting to share reads at night feels fake. Pretty unnecessary remark, especially for someone having seemingly missed most of the earlier stuff.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:07 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:49 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:17 pm Sloonei, how did you arrive at that PoE of 4?
timmer was town at the wazoo on Day 1.
Epi and Long Con have not looked they’re trying to deceive or misguide the thread at any point.
Michelle’s early posts upon subbing in looked like someone who both wanted to solve the game and was not informed about specific happenings.
Wilgy has been relatively engaged at times, and I think one specific post of his pointed to an earnest effort to read Creature post-flip for teammate interactions.
sig flipped out after we lynched Creature and thought we should have lynched me instead. No teammate is going to react that way.

DDL has done nothing that I think is incompatible with him being scum and I have found more questionable content in his ISO than anyone else’s.
Tony has not done anything that strongly suggests that he is either alignment to me.
Sorhanova did nothing until right now.
Mac did nothing for days and then showed up and did his Mac shtick for 10 minutes and left.
Agree on timmer
LC looks fine I guess. Epi is scum though, so re-read him
Okay
His remark about Sig maybe wanting to shame people for lynching Creature pre-flip 'cause Sig knows Creature is about to flip town was great.
Agree

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:33 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:22 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:17 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:09 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:08 pm That brings me to Epi, DDL, Michelle and Tony. We got them boys
Sell me on Michelle.
I haven't really seen anything from her that screamed to me. Feels like she's been walking on eggshells since she subbed on, and is being very safe. A lot of asking mild questions, clarifications and not enough conclusions I feel.
I do not feel like that is an accurate representation of Michelle’s posts. She’s stated a lot of reads.
Not anything sharp. It's mostly been lean villager and some I don't knows which are exactly what I'm talking about. Dom was supposedly after something about a question he asked and not seeing much from him, but then it went back to gth. Same with DrWilgy, the quoted posts felt arbitrary and just to get a default scumread. I don't see any train of thoughts at all and both her red read have in common her "iso-ing" the two and coming up with the read.

Both feel like very safe scum read and basic one, doesn't feel like they were genuine or that she wanted to figure them out. The lack of interacting or being a bit in their face is the walking on eggshells attitude I'm feeling. She's playing it from far.

All these posts (and a few others) read like he's trying to avoid confrontation with me. I don't feel like I needed to earn a town read from nova, and yet he has seemingly defaulted to a position of agreement with me on everything except for Epi.

By "don't feel like I needed to earn a town read" I mean that it doesn't seem like he ever actually read me to produce a read. Unless it is decided that I am oozing goodness right now, I don't like how little resistance I've been met with from nova.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:28 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 4:08 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:21 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:54 am I am 100% certain Sloonei is scum. Lynch me or him idc. Just lynch the other one next.
i wish to know on a scale from 1 to 10 how much you believe this. And by comparison how much you were convinced that Dom will flip scum?
3/10 on Sloonei. 0/10 Dom.
This is like his math has a problem. Passed through my mind: if he is scum don't he add more tham a 3/10 when he previously said he's 100% sure? like not 10/10 but at least 6?
I wouldn't vote Mac today even if I had that suspicion on him but instead I wish to see him playing more.

Like I've said somewhere else, Mac always says that he's sure I'm scum. It doesn't mean anything.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:33 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:30 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:28 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 4:08 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:21 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:54 am I am 100% certain Sloonei is scum. Lynch me or him idc. Just lynch the other one next.
i wish to know on a scale from 1 to 10 how much you believe this. And by comparison how much you were convinced that Dom will flip scum?
3/10 on Sloonei. 0/10 Dom.
This is like his math has a problem. Passed through my mind: if he is scum don't he add more tham a 3/10 when he previously said he's 100% sure? like not 10/10 but at least 6?
I wouldn't vote Mac today even if I had that suspicion on him but instead I wish to see him playing more.
Like I've said somewhere else, Mac always says that he's sure I'm scum. It doesn't mean anything.
That means he also may be villager isn't it?
What do you think about a drW lynch?

It means nothing. It doesn't indicate anything about his alignment.

I have no reason to support a DrWilgy lynch.

To be fair, I dont think anyone knows how to confidently read Dom.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:42 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:38 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:33 pmWhat do you think about a drW lynch?
Looking back at his posts during the Dom lynch.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:25 pm On Dom: I'm very bad at reading him. Idk if I've ever seen him supa town and maybe this causes me to default to him being bad.
That's hedgey enough to warrant some suspicion.
Is DrW a player who knows Dom from many games?

Dom and Wilgy are both players that have been around for a long time, but they've also both kind of come and gone over the last couple years. Wilgy in particular hasn't played much recently. So they're familiar with each other, but don't have much recent experience in games together.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:43 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:59 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:45 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:32 pm what do you have on him DDL?
Nothing.

Epi usually gives me more.
I can only get on when I can get on. We are getting ready for exams and the end of the semester and that's the busiest two times of the year for me by far. There is also an earlier deadline in "All My Circuits," so that gets prioritized over this one.

I apologize for not being around, but this is the best I can do.
I try never to judge activity. But I judge behavior. You could be much more assertive with your low post count, yet you seen to be accepting a more passive playstyle and that bothers me.

I'm not bothered by a passive epi. If anything, it's one of the reasons I town read him.

I initially typed "I'm not bothered by ass".

[VOTE: nova] aubergine via sorsha

Although I will say that I am sensing a potential teammate vibe between Michelle and Mac today. I never try to look for partnerships like this when both players are still alive and unconfirmed, but if one of them is scum then I'd be very inclined to look into the other.

sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:52 pm I'll read over Mac and Wilgy real quick see what I see.

DDL, LC, Epi, Sloonie, and Timmer are people I won't lynch.
Sorsha is odd she hasn't been around so its literally a shot a dark.

sorsha is nova now.

sig and nova aren't partners.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:00 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:49 pm Although I will say that I am sensing a potential teammate vibe between Michelle and Mac today. I never try to look for partnerships like this when both players are still alive and unconfirmed, but if one of them is scum then I'd be very inclined to look into the other.
Don't link me with anyone, this makes associative reads and these are very useful for scum. When you say the bolded you don't follow with doing it -_-

That's exactly what I'm saying. It's not something I'm going to pursue right now, nor is it something that I like to do, but I can't ignore it and want to state it for later.

Replacements can enter with pizzazz and authenticity regardless of alignment.

it had been too long since anybody said pizzazz.

I've felt significantly better about DDL over the last few hours, btw.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:18 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:05 pm Calling it now my inactive theory is right and it's nova and michelle. Or maybe nova and mac. Or all three.
nova michelle misses a kill

Some hosts on the Syndicate have started to randomize automatic kills in the event that the mafia team doesn't submit one. I dunno if G-man would do that. But it's a thing.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:20 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:15 pm
sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:08 pm [VOTE: Sorsha/Nova] aubergine

I'm not totally convinced but I trust the people on the wagon and if someone ties it with Wilgy we get a no lynch.
And I'm not feeling the wilgy lynch at all.

It's wilgy. Normal scum tells don't cut it. Either have a really good reason, or admit you are randomizing the lynch, because wilgy is a crapshoot.
I think a Wilgy Lynch is better than a Mac lynch. Probably slightly better than a Nova lynch.

Why?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:25 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:21 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:20 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:15 pm
sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:08 pm [VOTE: Sorsha/Nova] aubergine

I'm not totally convinced but I trust the people on the wagon and if someone ties it with Wilgy we get a no lynch.
And I'm not feeling the wilgy lynch at all.

It's wilgy. Normal scum tells don't cut it. Either have a really good reason, or admit you are randomizing the lynch, because wilgy is a crapshoot.
I think a Wilgy Lynch is better than a Mac lynch. Probably slightly better than a Nova lynch.
Why?
The way Day 2 played out my guess is that DDL/Mac isn’t a likely scum team. But I could see DDL/Wilgy. I have a slight scum read on Wilgy and no read on the other two, but I tend to ascribe to the “give replacements more than half a phase” philosophy and I think the “Nova lacked pizzazz” case is lacking. I haven’t really read the last two hours (Jeopardy was on) so I’ll go reread and see if anything catches my eye.

So all of this seems to hinge on DDL being scum?
also it seems you've misread the nova case.

... also tony's answer was not an answer. I asked why he suspects wilgy and he told me a bunch of stuff about Day 2 and people who are not wilgy. What has DrWilgy done that merits suspicion?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:28 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:26 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:25 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:21 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:20 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:15 pm
sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:08 pm [VOTE: Sorsha/Nova] aubergine

I'm not totally convinced but I trust the people on the wagon and if someone ties it with Wilgy we get a no lynch.
And I'm not feeling the wilgy lynch at all.

It's wilgy. Normal scum tells don't cut it. Either have a really good reason, or admit you are randomizing the lynch, because wilgy is a crapshoot.
I think a Wilgy Lynch is better than a Mac lynch. Probably slightly better than a Nova lynch.
Why?
The way Day 2 played out my guess is that DDL/Mac isn’t a likely scum team. But I could see DDL/Wilgy. I have a slight scum read on Wilgy and no read on the other two, but I tend to ascribe to the “give replacements more than half a phase” philosophy and I think the “Nova lacked pizzazz” case is lacking. I haven’t really read the last two hours (Jeopardy was on) so I’ll go reread and see if anything catches my eye.
So all of this seems to hinge on DDL being scum?
also it seems you've misread the nova case.
Well it means there are less possible worlds where Mac is scum. Mac isn’t currently in lynch contention so that’s irrelevant.
I probably did misread the Nova case. Again, Jeopardy.

Mac is a candidate today in my opinion.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:30 pm I reread Wilgy. I changed my mind. Is that allowed?
Vote: Mac

It is if you can tell us why.

Mac is the only other player I'd vote for right now, I think.

Thank you for breathing life into your play slow, nova.

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