The Syndicate

Golden wrote:That sounded way more passive than I meant it to.

Lol no worries. I did word it like it was an open discussion. But I'm mainly looking for Typh's input. It just seemed like a weird little thing.

Golden wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:
Typhoony wrote:The Penguin can choose where the info will be sent to btw.

Cue typh is Penguin posts.
This is something I wanted to talk about. Seems Typh asked this question behind the scenes. Why would a civilian care what the answer to this question is, and why wouldn't they just ask it in the thread?
Or... the Penguin sent info to Typh, and it was someone who is not his mortal enemy?

I'm not saying there aren't good answers, I just wanna see what Typh has to say. I have no read on him.

Matt wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:Matt... wtf
Lol. What? It's not like I gave anything away, I thought this was already heavily implied "knowledge" already in the thread?

So you think MP is good to go then?

I just don't know what your aim is. I think you'd be more successful if you didn't play solely on your own terms. We're all trying to figure out the game together and you're off in la la land.

Matt... wtf

Typhoony wrote:The Penguin can choose where the info will be sent to btw.

Cue typh is Penguin posts.

This is something I wanted to talk about. Seems Typh asked this question behind the scenes. Why would a civilian care what the answer to this question is, and why wouldn't they just ask it in the thread?

Golden wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:
Golden wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:I wanna say a sabie teammate might have thrown in the towel at some point but I feel pretty good about all the sabie votes. What do we think of Glofy's vote for MM? He did that thing again where he brings a case forth and votes for it all in the same breath after spending the rest of the day not talking about his reads.
I feel ok about Glorfindel, like thats his style. I could be wrong and he may have me fooled, but he reminds me of Star Wars mafia where he felt just slightly ruffled by people suggesting he was bad when he wasn't in a similar way to what he has done here.
He was bad in Star Wars. Check out his posts in Pikmin for what a civ Glorfindel could look like.
Oh, I forgot he was bad. Well then, consider my suspicion of Glorfindel reignited.

I still feel worse right now about SVS and sprit, though.

I've been asking people for days to look at Glorfy's ISO in Pikmin. IMO it is nothing like what we're seeing here.

sprityo wrote:tell you what TH, you've got me interested, ill provide you the best possible read for a single person i can, even though ive kept zero personal notes on anyone

Oh this sounds fun. Do I get to pick the player?

Golden wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:I wanna say a sabie teammate might have thrown in the towel at some point but I feel pretty good about all the sabie votes. What do we think of Glofy's vote for MM? He did that thing again where he brings a case forth and votes for it all in the same breath after spending the rest of the day not talking about his reads.
I feel ok about Glorfindel, like thats his style. I could be wrong and he may have me fooled, but he reminds me of Star Wars mafia where he felt just slightly ruffled by people suggesting he was bad when he wasn't in a similar way to what he has done here.

He was bad in Star Wars.

Check out his posts in Pikmin for what a civ Glorfindel could look like.

Have you already won the game?

sprityo wrote:
Dom wrote:RIP Scotty.

Sprit, who do you think should be lynched today?
as i just read what Mac said "we're 2 for 2" on the lurkers. so, Floyd is my go to.

look the best part is, once we get through with them, my turn is coming, since yknow i have relatively low posts coupled with mild suspicion from some people for, idk? me being me?

I'd feel a lot better about you if you had thoughts on literally anything other than lynching inactives.

I wanna say a sabie teammate might have thrown in the towel at some point but I feel pretty good about all the sabie votes. What do we think of Glofy's vote for MM? He did that thing again where he brings a case forth and votes for it all in the same breath after spending the rest of the day not talking about his reads.

MacDougall wrote:We literally had players in the thread say they went to the same place two nights in a row, like, if they are Mafia are you just excluding them or what?

It's all a bit like, are we really going to lynch someone based on this?

Just looking for leads bro chill out

Who are you looking at?

I think they at least could have double backed in the early going to confirm that the info didn't change. Can't remember when someone confirmed that it was static.

When you say Night 1 do you mean Night 0?

Golden wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
Golden wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Turns out that was a short list.

LoRab
Matt
SVS
SVS and Matt also voted Mac. SVS at a particularly suspicion time.

I'll admit I already came into today with my eye firmly on SVS, but if I get the chance I am going to be seriously checking her out for a possible sabie teamie.
My list was based on who voted Mac/sprityo *AND* also never visited a location on the same night as sabie. I haven't yet checked to ee if they visited the same locations on different nights though
I wouldn't call 'any night' determinative. They probably would want to obfuscate a little. Lots of overlap would be less likely.

Maybe. Also the recruit didn't join the team til after the first 3 polls.

DharmaHelper wrote:It's mad late and I promise I'll do the legwork of this at some point but check this shit out:

I bet if we cross reference the list of players who voted to go to locations other than the ones sabie went to with the list of say, Mac or Sprityo or w/e voter, we will end up with a pretty meaty case for her teammate(s).

Oooooh. Me likey.

Enrique wrote:Why not?

Enrique wrote:Have you been poisoned before TH?

No comment.

DharmaHelper wrote:Is there a reason you voted for me TH?

I was not forced, targeted or poisoned by any role.

Anyone who doesn't vote for sabie today is confirmed mafia

DharmaHelper wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Votes are still not changeable TH.
Thank you DH.

In unrelated news, I am once again voting early for my boy DH.
Th noooooo

Chrysanthemums tawdrier maid nag motherfucker. Who you looking at today?

DharmaHelper wrote:Votes are still not changeable TH.

Thank you DH.

In unrelated news, I am once again voting early for my boy DH.

Golden wrote:I wonder if we just lost the commissioner.

Rip scotty.

I had the same morbid thought :-/ I hope not. Rest in pieces Scotty.

sprityo wrote:People please correct my name, it's like the one thing I ask

sprityo wrote:Mac has a point though in what loran just quoted, to have a wagon on me after having no previous momentum/suspicion, would look incredibly terrible on the people who voted me

Okay not "incredibly terrible" but "scummy."

sprityo wrote:Mac has a point though in what loran just quoted

sprityo wrote:in what loran just quoted

sprityo wrote: loran

I don't think you're lying Matt, I just wanted to give you a taste of how ridiculous you sound.

Typh's story lines up with mine, now MATT is the liar!!!!

Lynch him!!!!

Matt wrote:
Typhoony wrote:Can you describe your experience Matt? I'm on phone, hard to find stuff for me atm
Absolutely. As soon as Turnip answers my three questions.

But even w/o, my experience was pretty much the same as Turnips with an exception or two...

1) I did have a time frame in which to answer the riddle.

and

2) I was given a mission on my second day. Turnip didn't seem to (noticeably) have one. I have no idea though because he refuses to answer.

1) I was not given a time frame but I also didn't ask for one. Judging by my punishment I assume I had one full cycle to answer correctly.

2) I was not given a mission. Maybe The Riddler was fucking with you.

Matt wrote:Turnip, a few questions

1) A few days ago, I believe you answered someone's question about the Riddler, saying there was no time frame in which to answer the riddle. Can you expand on this please?

2) How many times have you attempted to answer the riddle?

3) During your most recent day experience, did you have a certain goal to accomplish along with the curse?

Thank you

I'm not going to answer your questions Matthew, and I'll tell you why. I can already tell you won't like my answers, based on prior discussions on the matter. But I can't change my answers because everything I've said is true. Even if I were bad, I can think of no logical reason that I would lie about something like this.

Take it or leave it, I don't much care what you do.

Golden wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:Dom, I meant "down" in the cool person way, like "I'm down wit dat dope ass plan yo". But yeah, that curse was a bitch
You did amazingly well with it, although that could well be Enrique's doing.

Yo fuck Enrique, he threw a mountain of words at me and didn't even include one for "making a suspicious face"

DharmaHelper wrote:Glad to know where you and I stand TH

Are you? I threw chrysanthemums in your face and you barely even blinked

Yeah I usually try to use my vote to convey my thoughts when cursed and I derped.

linki @ Mac:

Spoiler: show

And I have a juicy case for a potential sabie teamie just waiting for me to type it up.

MacDougall wrote:Btw why did you vote for DharmaHelper?

I had a momentary lapse where I thought votes were changeable and tried to signal that I wanted him to stfu about juliets. I thought he was being opportunistic going after her; I still think that, I just think he was being opportunistic in the civilian kinda way.

MacDougall wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:I think she would have tried to get the sprityo wagon up and running rather than go after the breadcrumber but that's just my opinion.
I had just received three straight votes. It was riding a fucking tidal wave at that point. How was she to know I was going to arrive out of the aethyr and make the post I did? I think in that scenario a sabie teammate would go me over Spirit for sure.

She had to have known you'd fight back harder than sprityo, that's for damn sure.

She's also infamous for her shitty phone typing.

I think she would have tried to get the sprityo wagon up and running rather than go after the breadcrumber but that's just my opinion.

FWIW Mac I think SVS would have kept her annoyance contained to BTSC if that's how she really felt. Her reaction ironically makes me feel better about her being civ

This site has a long and complicated history with role hinting/outing.

MacDougall wrote:
sabie12 wrote:Sorry for playing poorly. My life's been crazy and my meds cost like 200 dollars and I can't afford them.
I hope everything is ok with your life sabie

This

See you in the next game sabiebaby.

Dom, I meant "down" in the cool person way, like "I'm down wit dat dope ass plan yo". But yeah, that curse was a bitch

Called that one

Nice job gang.

Dom wrote:Th are you unhappy with me?

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Dom wrote:Honestly idc if we lunch sabie or sprit. They're both bad probably

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Epignosis wrote:
Scotty wrote:If the Scarecrow targets their own role (i.e. Penguin must kill himself) how the hell does that work?
That wouldn't be allowed.

S~V~S wrote:This is why I hate role hints and relying on them; I have no idea WTF you are talking about here, Golden.

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Golden wrote:I really wouldn't object to a low/non-poster vote at this point. I remember in Bullets Over Broadway how much trouble that was giving the civilians in the end, having all these people still alive who weren't even there. With Equivocate, ekeknat, Bubbles, Bass and Floyd all being non-contributory, that number is high.

Chrysanthemums tawdrier maid nag.

Glorfindel wrote:
Glorfindel wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
Glorfindel wrote:
Dom wrote:Sabie, who should we lynch and why?

Glorfindel, who should we lynch and why?
I'm not sure Dom, the jury's still out as far as I'm concerned. There is something I'd like clarified that might help me come to a conclusion though.

This is the Penguin's ability:
Epignosis wrote: As a powerful informant, The Penguin learns the role of the person he votes for, and may blackmail his victim. The victim has a choice to either do whatever The Penguin says or have his or her role sent to a rival person. The Penguin wins by surviving.
Can anyone offer me an opinion on what the phrase "have his or her role sent to a rival person" means? Like if the target was a member of one of the crime families, the answer is I should think obvious but what if the target was other than Mafia, how do you see this playing out?
I take it to mean any one player with a conflicting win condition.
That is (I assume) where one is obvious and the player with the conflicting win condition is still alive. What I'm getting at though is just how significant an ability do we consider this to be? Would it be of greater gravity to some roles over others?
Reposting as I only got one answer to this. @Golden, @Dom, @MP and @Enrique - may I have your thoughts please? I ask respectfully as in addition to DH, you all seem to be more knowledgeable on these sorts of things and I genuinely value your input.

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Epignosis wrote:I know I still owe you all PMs for your locations. I must admit you all took a backseat to work, supper, fantasy basketball, and the Gotham premiere. We're going to have to learn to live with my priorities.

But how can I possibly make it up to you?

Tell me, did anybody ever figure out what those locations meant?

Chrysanthemums waterman dig raid.

DharmaHelper wrote:I understand you find me suspicious Golden but I think your suspicion is false.

Chrysanthemums waterman dig raid.

juliets wrote:suspicious and this pings me

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Golden wrote:TH... perhaps repeat after me too...

No

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Golden wrote:Yes

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Golden wrote:For

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Golden wrote: Glorfindel seems to be genuinely contributing in a way which could be town

Chrysanthemums tawdrier magna id.

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