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What's funny?MacDougall wrote:Dom wrote:Sorsha, do you suspect Mac as well?
You've yet to give a single reason to say I'm bad other than you think Mac's feelings are more important than mine so I don't really care tbh.a2thezebra wrote:Dom's bad. I've been gut-reading MP as bad as well but there's less to go on there.
This actually makes me feel much better about that other post.MacDougall wrote:I also was threatened with death OR WORSE if she wasn't killed by night 7. I imagine that whoever did it is bad. Hence why I am sharing it now she is dead. I hadn't said it yet because I was waiting a couple of days to see if she would die without me doing anything. I would have brought it up closer to the deadline had this not happened.
I could ask the same question about a lot of things that you post as well...MacDougall wrote:How pray tell does this even remotely make me suspicious?Dom wrote:MacDougall wrote:Okay I should reveal now that on night 4 someone apparently paid a large price to have me ensure Roxy was dead before night 7. But I refused to do anything about it because it seemed bad. I don't have a killing role so I couldn't do anything about it but Roxy did it herself so I guess I'm rich now.
MacDougall wrote:Okay I should reveal now that on night 4 someone apparently paid a large price to have me ensure Roxy was dead before night 7. But I refused to do anything about it because it seemed bad. I don't have a killing role so I couldn't do anything about it but Roxy did it herself so I guess I'm rich now.
It's not at the request of Golden. That's a false narrative you are pushing. Golden is the one that said I voted for him to "back up a friend". I don't particularly like that he said that.MacDougall wrote:Also you don't have to know someone's genuine civilian game to civ read them on merit. You're reading all my play as disruptive, draining, etc. The inference is that you think I'm a civilian but you voted for me.
That you voted for me at the request of Golden's 1 v 1 is a reasonable explanation.
It's not over so.... you should probably not say that.MacDougall wrote:I was civilian in the other one so ...Dom wrote:This is my second game with Mac. I would have no idea what his genuine civ game is. This is a load of bull.a2thezebra wrote:I agree about Dom. G2H has yet to feel appropriate with the tone of the thread since the last one tbh, I feel like those that haven't done it yet wouldn't be up for it in the first place ala Bubbles.MacDougall wrote:Dom is bad, his personal attack on me "having a supreme command of Mafia" etc. revealed that he thinks I'm playing my genuine civ game, and yet he put his vote on me. That's about as obvious as it gets really. He's voted someone he thinks is a civilian.
What happened to the rest of the G2H reads Zebra? I've seen like 10 more people post and nobody has done it.
I didn't know you were the feelings police.a2thezebra wrote:Yeah, it is different. It's genuine.
This is my second game with Mac. I would have no idea what his genuine civ game is. This is a load of bull.a2thezebra wrote:I agree about Dom. G2H has yet to feel appropriate with the tone of the thread since the last one tbh, I feel like those that haven't done it yet wouldn't be up for it in the first place ala Bubbles.MacDougall wrote:Dom is bad, his personal attack on me "having a supreme command of Mafia" etc. revealed that he thinks I'm playing my genuine civ game, and yet he put his vote on me. That's about as obvious as it gets really. He's voted someone he thinks is a civilian.
What happened to the rest of the G2H reads Zebra? I've seen like 10 more people post and nobody has done it.
I voted for Mac because I don't think the game will progress until either Mac or Golden are dead because of their total derailment of the thread.sig wrote:I'm not sure if Dom swings that wayMacDougall wrote: Eat a dick.
What I don't understadn though is both Mac and Golden made a huge fuss how players should vote for one of them then they think that when someone does vote for one of them they are scum>
I'm saying this today we can't have another day phase of golden/mac it has slowed down some since the start, but if it continues then we are providing perfect cover for the scum to not post. I think we will find a scum or two voting for Roxy regardless of how she flips.
I'll read over Dom and see what I see.
@Dom why do you think MP is scum, also why did you vote for Mac?
Agreed, but I'm a baddie for saying it apparently.Bullzeye wrote:
Does nobody else think it's completely ridiculous that someone's role would have to perform a completely subjective act in order to gain benefit, with the sole judge of their success being someone who has btsc with them and not only knows what they have to do but likely shares the benefit? I think the whole idea is dumb tbh. Still catching up.
What changed between your "slight town read" of me to now?MovingPictures07 wrote:Also, I'm tired of you denouncing suspicion against me as a NO U, Dom, just because you expressed vague as hell suspicions of me first. I don't give a crap if it's a NO U. I suspect you for specific reasons, and I'm allowed to.
How about I voice suspicion of literally every other player in the game the next game I play, then denounce every single accusation made against me subsequently as a NO U?
And instead I feel like we've come to a point in the game where both can't exist.MovingPictures07 wrote:The real shame about Golden and Mac's 14 pages of back-and-forth is that they could have spent all of that effort producing analysis of multiple players; instead, we're now at a situation where I feel like it's easy for players to come in and jump on anyone currently with votes.
I would agree.Golden wrote:Roxy is probably the best way to vote.
You, like MP, have given close to zero reasons for a mafia read of me.a2thezebra wrote:Elohcin
Golden
Canucklehead
nijuukyugou
MacDougall
thellama73
Matt
MovingPictures07
sig
DFaraday
Bullzeye
Bass_the_Clever
Spacedaisy
Sorsha
DrWilgy
Russtifinko
Bubbles
Dom
Roxy
I mean specifically in this instance.MacDougall wrote:I've caught plenty of scum in my years Dom. Don't belittle me. I'll catch plenty more.Dom wrote:I think you are too arrogant in your beliefs to catch a baddie.MacDougall wrote:You ask Golden to tell you why I'm bad, he gives you an answer that I easily refute, you vote. That's that.
Not a good look Dom.
So you haven't actually even commented on anything I've said about Golden. I think even Golden would probably consider that strange.
It would be a nice catch if Enrique had btsc with his teammaates.a2thezebra wrote:I'm glad that you two have realized (to an extent) that you're scum-reading each other primarily for being mad at each other.
Really?Golden wrote:@Mac - Dom's vote is fine. He is sticking up for a friend.
Nice catch.MacDougall wrote:This interaction between sig and Enrique is a little unusual. Sig soft cased Enrique very early in the game about his opinion of Tattooine favouring the independents and pointed out that it would favour the Hutts. He seemed to have an opinion that Enrique was specifically a Hutt back when Enrique was just being generally scum read not alignment specific and then Enrique called him two faced which infers that he felt Sig was at least friendly with him when I can't see evidence of that at all.sig wrote:How am I being two faced? I thought about it some more read through your post and came to the conclusion you seem scummy, certainly more scummy them Matt, who from my understanding is getting votes from fly by voter or based around the Death Star thing.Enrique wrote:wow sig actually voted for me. is he usually this damn two faced? I must've missed Matt's vote as well. I am terrible at keeping up.
You lower yourself to insults and you attempt to paint me bad by voting for you, I gave reasoning for my vote and stand by them.
This reaction much like your reaction when I mentioned the hutts and said you were interesting seems odd and scummy.
This is how I always feel when I talk to Matt.Golden wrote: One straight answer, please.
How are my suspicions all over the place?MovingPictures07 wrote:Wait, what, seriously?
If so, consider me pinged re: Dom. His suspicions are all over the place, and he's clearly lacking that town fire he usually has. Let me see for myself.
This post does not address the concern you brought up earlier.MovingPictures07 wrote:If I had to vote right now, it'd be for Dom, and I strongly implore others to consider the same.
I really don't think he believes his own vote, and he's clearly not genuinely hunting for mafia... not just for this Day cycle, but from what I can recall, previous cycles as well.
These are his posts about Mac:
Dom wrote:I'm not 100% sold. Summary pls?Golden wrote:I honestly think, if anyone does not believe Mac is bad, they should lynch me instead.Dom wrote:-_-Golden wrote:On which half - lynching Mac, or lynching me?Dom wrote:I'm not 100% sold. Summary pls?Golden wrote:I honestly think, if anyone does not believe Mac is bad, they should lynch me instead.Dom wrote:Why do you think Mac is that bad?Golden wrote:Lol - really though Dom, serious question.Dom wrote:A+ post.Spacedaisy wrote:
P.S. you will always be Mr F to me. And yes I do hear it Arrested Development style in my head... "For British Eyes Only"
I asked you to tell me why and you still haven't.Golden wrote:@sig - what does he have to gain?
Is there a single person listening to me that he is on team hutt... even one?
No.
No-one believes me, because why would someone on team hutt make such a passionate case for why I am on that team? It clears him of being on his own team.Dom wrote:Why we should lynch Mac.Golden wrote:Why what?Dom wrote:A+ post.Spacedaisy wrote:
P.S. you will always be Mr F to me. And yes I do hear it Arrested Development style in my head... "For British Eyes Only"
I asked you to tell me why and you still haven't.Golden wrote:@sig - what does he have to gain?
Is there a single person listening to me that he is on team hutt... even one?
No.
No-one believes me, because why would someone on team hutt make such a passionate case for why I am on that team? It clears him of being on his own team.Dom wrote:vote=macI don't buy this as genuine. This is SO FAR from the civilian questioning Dom I've known ever since my first game of mafia. I think Dom is taking advantage of an already-formed train on Mac, the thread being dominated by both of them, and hoping he can get rid of someone who has been producing a ton of content by piggybacking onto Golden's Mac-o-vision.Dom wrote:I think you are too arrogant in your beliefs to catch a baddie.MacDougall wrote:You ask Golden to tell you why I'm bad, he gives you an answer that I easily refute, you vote. That's that.
Not a good look Dom.
Now I have to go, be back this afternoon.
Dom looks like someone who thinks the way you play is exhausting. Dom is pretty done with this idea that everyone who disagrees with you is bad. Dom is also pretty done with the idea that you are somehow supreme command on how to play mafia.MacDougall wrote:Also Dom looks to me like a very jaded scum player. Like a member of a certain decimated scum team who is pissed off at life and barely can muster the energy to feign contributions?
You really know how to drain the life from a game, don't you?MacDougall wrote:Also suspicion confirmed he did post in World Reborn while we were doing that whole thing so he was probably here the whole time.
LOL Don't write while memorizing linesDom wrote:Honestly was writing a post but now I just want to be replaced if I'm honest.
I think you are too arrogant in your beliefs to catch a baddie.MacDougall wrote:You ask Golden to tell you why I'm bad, he gives you an answer that I easily refute, you vote. That's that.
Not a good look Dom.
Why we should lynch Mac.Golden wrote:Why what?Dom wrote:A+ post.Spacedaisy wrote:
P.S. you will always be Mr F to me. And yes I do hear it Arrested Development style in my head... "For British Eyes Only"
I asked you to tell me why and you still haven't.Golden wrote:@sig - what does he have to gain?
Is there a single person listening to me that he is on team hutt... even one?
No.
No-one believes me, because why would someone on team hutt make such a passionate case for why I am on that team? It clears him of being on his own team.
A+ post.Spacedaisy wrote:
P.S. you will always be Mr F to me. And yes I do hear it Arrested Development style in my head... "For British Eyes Only"
I asked you to tell me why and you still haven't.Golden wrote:@sig - what does he have to gain?
Is there a single person listening to me that he is on team hutt... even one?
No.
No-one believes me, because why would someone on team hutt make such a passionate case for why I am on that team? It clears him of being on his own team.
Why do you think Mac is that bad?Golden wrote:Lol - really though Dom, serious question.
-_-Golden wrote:On which half - lynching Mac, or lynching me?Dom wrote:I'm not 100% sold. Summary pls?Golden wrote:I honestly think, if anyone does not believe Mac is bad, they should lynch me instead.
I'm not 100% sold. Summary pls?Golden wrote:I honestly think, if anyone does not believe Mac is bad, they should lynch me instead.
No he's not?MacDougall wrote:Golden is in full on panic mode.
You are way over the top.MacDougall wrote:Brian replied to one of Golden's memes with "lol, love it".
Brian was Jabba the Hutt.
There is a character that is required to amuse Jabba.
Brian replied to one of Golden's memes with "lol, love it".
Golden made a funny. Brian's reaction is way over the top. Way way over the top.bcornett24 wrote:lol that is awesomeGolden wrote:gth in this context is gun to head not go to hell.
They are both fake as fuck lol. The only thing that could save you Golden is if Brian was trying to make you look bad upon his flip.
The posts you make towards me tend to sound like a riddle and not a statement. I don't care pulling them up because you post too much.MacDougall wrote:But you didn't even answer the question?Dom wrote:Because I haven't understood anything you've said to me this game.
Why are you so cryptic this game?MacDougall wrote:Sarcastic haha or genuine haha?Dom wrote:Haha!MacDougall wrote:Canuck is Golden and I's strongest civ read and your only suspect. That's funny.Dom wrote:Work, School, plus I'm super invested in A World Reborn ATM.MovingPictures07 wrote:Dom, when you get the chance, let's talk suspects. I know we tend to have different viewpoints, so I want to see where we disagree and why. I feel you've been a bit tame in recent cycles (though we all have, I'm sure due to individual RL situations, and I know you work retail), so I want to hear more of your thoughts.Dom wrote:Busy day tomorrow-- nothing' schanged... Simon it is.
But I'm not super suspicious of anyone rn. Maybe canuck. I also only meant that of the two of you-- Golden and yourself-- I would be more surprised to find out Golden is bad than you.
RIP Simon. :/
Haha!MacDougall wrote:Canuck is Golden and I's strongest civ read and your only suspect. That's funny.Dom wrote:Work, School, plus I'm super invested in A World Reborn ATM.MovingPictures07 wrote:Dom, when you get the chance, let's talk suspects. I know we tend to have different viewpoints, so I want to see where we disagree and why. I feel you've been a bit tame in recent cycles (though we all have, I'm sure due to individual RL situations, and I know you work retail), so I want to hear more of your thoughts.Dom wrote:Busy day tomorrow-- nothing' schanged... Simon it is.
But I'm not super suspicious of anyone rn. Maybe canuck. I also only meant that of the two of you-- Golden and yourself-- I would be more surprised to find out Golden is bad than you.
RIP Simon. :/
Work, School, plus I'm super invested in A World Reborn ATM.MovingPictures07 wrote:Dom, when you get the chance, let's talk suspects. I know we tend to have different viewpoints, so I want to see where we disagree and why. I feel you've been a bit tame in recent cycles (though we all have, I'm sure due to individual RL situations, and I know you work retail), so I want to hear more of your thoughts.Dom wrote:Busy day tomorrow-- nothing' schanged... Simon it is.
wtf does this meanMacDougall wrote:ExploreDom wrote:I didn't doubt that....Golden wrote:Good karma for asking nicely.
@Dom - I have been reading her as civ, yes. If you iso me, you will find some stuff on this.
I'm just asking because I haven't been.
True...MacDougall wrote:This is no way to hunt a likely fully in tact scum team. No vote pressure on anyone except Simon. Lots of gambling posts. No egg breaking. Empire can just come in vote Simon and leave, how are we supposed to flush them out if we just do that?
That's not why he's getting votes.thellama73 wrote:Okay, I'm twenty pages in. Making good progress! Here are my suspicions thus far:
Golden: too laid back this game for me to feel like he's normal Golden.
Nijuukyugou: Admittedly, I usually suspect her. Just something about her style I guess. It seems too equivocating.
Zebra: His rainbow list pinged me, as it felt like an effort to get certain people off the hook by listing them as civ. I'm not sure why I didn't feel this way about other rainbow lists, but MP seems like normal, civ MP to me.
I do agree that Simon's initial eagerness to go after Fett was telling, but I'm not happy with the amount of people piling onto him today.
If by all you mean 5....Golden wrote:You just gambled away all your credits.Matt wrote:What's this pull thing? I'm too lazy to even find a host post.
PULL
Haha
It's why I haven't pulled anything. Not even a finger.
I didn't doubt that....Golden wrote:Good karma for asking nicely.
@Dom - I have been reading her as civ, yes. If you iso me, you will find some stuff on this.
I would say there's a chance that MP is bad. Golden, less so.MacDougall wrote:Actually I don't see any connection between you two in the thread. I think you are both suspicious independent of one another.Golden wrote:I was assuming you think you see a connection between me and MP. I wanted to make it clear that not only are you wrong that I am empire, you are also wrong about any connection you see between me and MP. I have no knowledge of his affiliation, although I read him civ.MacDougall wrote:Then why bother adding the second part to your sentence? Dramatic effect?Golden wrote:Oh, well done Mac, trying to catch me in semantics! My favourite!
To me, a team consists of people who have btsc, or in odd cases (like Greedo) it can extend a little beyond. But people always like to try and use the word 'team' to trip people up. I'll add you to the list.
who are you more sure aboutMacDougall wrote:I think MP and Golden are on the Empire team.a2thezebra wrote:Maybe, maybe not. Regardless, I do. After yesterday's slow crawl I want to see whatever controversial thoughts you have to offer.MacDougall wrote:You don't wanna know what I think.MovingPictures07 wrote:I do have feelings about them, but many of the players I feel least confident about, as well as those I have the least substantive reads on, are in those groups.MacDougall wrote:
You are the one who has colour coded them. You must have feelings about them. How bout you share those feelings hmm?
I expressed feelings regarding these reads in previous posts and rainbow lists, particularly Night 3.
I don't have adequate time at the moment to hash over them (going to bed, in fact), but I'll gladly clarify as much as I can when I have more time.
What do you think, Mac?
you've earned myMacDougall wrote:Whether you received any kind of result from it as I did. I'm trying to ascertain whether I won the poll or whether there were levels of reward.Dom wrote:Canuck reads civ to me.MovingPictures07 wrote:Do you have any other thoughts / suspects, Dom?Dom wrote:I'm down with a Glorf/Simon vote.Why do you want to know?MacDougall wrote:Nobody answered me about this btw. Regarding the previous nights poll.MacDougall wrote:Hey so did anyone get a message about the poll? I did. Not sure if it was just me though so I will reserve what I say for now.
Canuck reads civ to me.MovingPictures07 wrote:Do you have any other thoughts / suspects, Dom?Dom wrote:I'm down with a Glorf/Simon vote.
Why do you want to know?MacDougall wrote:Nobody answered me about this btw. Regarding the previous nights poll.MacDougall wrote:Hey so did anyone get a message about the poll? I did. Not sure if it was just me though so I will reserve what I say for now.
I wasn't really referring to that post.sig wrote:Oh no the above sounds more like Civ Glorfindel, I'd rather keep him around for awhile.
whyRoxy wrote:The people I think are bad and I will bevoting one of them:
Zebra
DFaraday
Dom
TheFloyd
Canuck
Wiggly
Ninjabloops
this made me lol so hardCanucklehead wrote:It's just so over-the-top! The whole "if that is the case, I'll have a very hard time being mafia on this site in the future, you know, like not right now because I am absolutely not mafia right now as you can see from the veerrrry casual way I used the future tense to discuss the possibility of me being mafia which indicates that clearly I am not currently mafia and my sensitivities are affronted that you would think so!" epilogue is a little of the gentleman doth protest too much, ya know?a2thezebra wrote:I don't see how that post is so damning. Could you explain?
It doesn't look like a glorfindel lynch is possible today, and that's cool because I'd rather get a hutt today anyway (and I don't think glorfindel is connected to bcornett, or he's a least less likely to be a hutt than Simon), but this post has really raised my proverbial eyebrow.
^^sig wrote:He tied yesterdays lynch, this was only broken because MM voted like seconds before the deadline.
So Simon tied up the lynch almost stoping Brian from being lynched. If you also see the connections between Enrique and Brian, then factor in Simon saved Enrique from a tie earlier this game, he comes off as suspicious. I think this is a good reason to lynch someone, however I'd prefer to lynch Enrique over Simon today and then see how Enrique flips.
ProbablyGolden wrote:Paranoid theory: Enrique and simon are team hutt. Go!
whatMacDougall wrote:Here's my theory about le poll...
5 names = 5 remaining indy roles.
