The Syndicate

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:51 pm I came to play with the time I have available, and I'm greeted by several pings of yours telling me I'm doing nothing

What are you doing on day 4 then?

I don't really give a crap if I look like LoRab's teammate. We have to be right today or we lose. LoRab could be mafia. It's an easy argument to make. She was accused and said "no, not me". Mafia can say that. Civilians can too. It's irrelevant to me. I am forced to assess with pure gut, b...

(or remember that it's Easter)

(but clearly you're here right now so screw that ATE)

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:49 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:44 pm @falcon45ca demonstrate that you care when you're not a wagon.

Oh for sure, just give me a sec to tell my kids to fuck off on Easter, cuz I've got to play Maf

(I didn't even know you have kids)

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:48 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:45 pm We've followed the easy path every day.

0 for 3.

LoRab is the easy path.

Then let's do something hard

[VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

Yeah you don't care about who dies as long as it isn't your team. You're giving less than zero thought to any accusation you make. Falcon is a wolf.

I get a strong impression that falcon is just waiting out the day, which suggests to me that the current wagon is not flipping mafia. It's pulling me back to falcon/Epi, which was never really resolved. Even as Epi accepted falcon/LoRab as plausible, he went after LoRab and cooked up a "slam du...

We've followed the easy path every day.

0 for 3.

LoRab is the easy path.

@falcon45ca demonstrate that you care when you're not a wagon.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:21 pm I feel like these ISO are just making me more conflicted

Welcome to hell.

Tony being indy would also resolve some of the setup confusion.

10-2-1 and 9-3-1 were both iffy.

9-2-1-1 is more standard.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:13 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 11:34 am Four Epi-fam players and not one of them Wolf? Possible, but I don't believe in it.
Would a mafia LC do this if Epi was his teammate?

Dunno. It's the gambler's fallacy and is likely to be discarded by anyone.

I’m comfortable cleaning TSP: I think it’s clear he figured out who Moto was fairly quick and defended them in game. He could be third party, which would suck since he wouldn’t have a vested interest in town winning, but it’s too late to do anything about that He's probably indy. I don't see how he...

LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:08 pm What else do you want me to say?

And I can twirl, if it gives me more of a chance to live. And, I’d really like to lynch an actual baddie.

Can you point precisely to the behaviors of Epi and falcon that lead you to believe they're the most likely baddies?

Disregard, you answered.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:06 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:04 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:02 pm Then stop with the metronome trust level.
What's your take on LoRab's most recent material?
I saw nothing but "I'm not a wolf, I'm town." Nothing compelling enough to change my vote over.

@LoRab how do you plea?

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:02 pm Then stop with the metronome trust level.

What's your take on LoRab's most recent material?

@falcon45ca please do something.

I hope LC is town, because that is so wise. I hope you wouldn't dare butter me up like that as a Wolf, especially after I stated my never-rescind Town read on you. I would not appreciate... the smugness of it. Could easily flip back. I don’t actually trust anyone outside sig/Tony. Stop being intent...

Epi and Long Con have had an unusual relationship in this game. How so From Long Con's direction -- "town core" this and "town core" that. Initially, he included Epi in that group, and then he briefly joined the Epi suspicion today (before moving to LoRab). Epi lamented being &q...

Epi and Long Con have had an unusual relationship in this game.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 4:36 pm Also one thing to note, which I wasn’t going to bring up this soon, but the convo is dead so I will, if we flip mafia today we need to ALSO hit mafia tomorrow phase or we loose.

So a bussing strategy isn’t out of the question, that adds an extra layer of toughness.

Certainly true.

You’re more confident than I am, sig. I may follow your lead today.

Put another way: this game has been characterized by players contributing to the discussion predominantly when they’re under pressure — when they have something to answer for. Other than that it’s emotional neutrality or absence. That applies strongly to LoRab and Epi. It applied to our previous mis...

I don’t know why anyone would be confident that anyone else in that group is town. If I understood maybe I wouldn’t find this experience so excruciating.

@JaggedJimmyJay walk me through the epi evolution again? You went from town, to convinced he was mafia, to town and fine with lorab, to thinking he’s mafia again? It’s just uncertainty. I don’t know. There’s a pretty easy argument available to call every candidate in the [LoRab, Epi, falcon, LC] gr...

sig being mafia would certainly explain why this game has been so miserable. I’d need someone to lay out a theory/case.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 3:58 pm Tony, fine, he's got good reasons. How exactly is sig townier than me at this point?

It’s more difficult to conceive of possible mafia agendas in his approach, and I have never questioned the authenticity. While you have had some strong moments too, it’s not quite the same.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 3:57 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 3:51 pm Could easily flip back. I don’t actually trust anyone outside sig/Tony.
Stop being intentionally mean, you trust me.

I don’t know what’s “mean” about that, but I had no such intention.

Could easily flip back. I don’t actually trust anyone outside sig/Tony.

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

Yesterday’s epiphany about LoRab being a “slam dunk” while he was leading the poll seems convenient.

Unvoting for the moment so LoRab can breathe a bit.

@LoRab if you had to choose just two suspects to be the mafia team, who would they be?

This game drives me nuts.

Thanks for your careful consideration of things, sig, whatever you decide.

Tony moved so [VOTE: LoRab] aubergine

Wanted to keep the wagons close to maintain a pressured environment. I am still listening to all arguments.

If it isn’t her then good game and well played.

I'm sure mafia do say that sometimes! To be clear, that wasn't meant to convey a flavor of everyone seems so golden and good! , but rather [/i]everyone has moments of seeming fine, I guess, I don't know, whatever[/i]. The struggle is discrimination. All y'all have looked the same to me for much of t...

Very well. Just for my own satisfaction, why did you say everyone has seemed town at one point or another? (And you can tell me to kiss my own ass if you want- fair is fair) Valid question. There are levels to it. I think that LoRab has, at least for brief moments, looked earnest when I am viewing ...

What I like most about LoRab and/or falcon theory is that it isn't coming from me. Kagemusha Mafia me is not a me that I want to follow.

What has Epignosis actually done in this game that is indicative of his being a civilian? Serious question. Everyone has seemed town at one point or another. Who cares anymore. Raise the bar. Oh Jay. Dear Jay. Explain what Lorab has done that has fit this description. Nothing. LoRab can absolutely ...

I think I am on board. I'm going to let my vote sit for a bit for reasons. Also Tony didn't say anything about my offer to lock my vote, so I'm not obligated to lock it. :P

Glorfindel is good people.

If the team is LoRab and falcon, then win or lose this is one of Long Con's finest hours as a civilian.

Maybe I am a moron for relying on a claimed independent to be my rock in this game, but what else am I gonna do.

@TonyStarkPrime, may we need to reconsider here? I know where reconsidering has gotten me in this game, but what's one more?

What’s your thought on Lorab’s vote I don't care for it. I was surprised that she agreed with my rationale when it squarely implicated her, and she submitted to the vote with no resistance. I'm not sure how to interpret that right now from the standpoint of a falcon/LoRab team theory, but it makes ...

Another way to put it -- if the only real candidates to be a mafia teammate of LoRab are the three people currently voting for LoRab, then falcon's vote packs the least punch.

falcon is my best guess. Like... not JJJ, not Epi, not Tony, not sig. Not me. :shrug: Noted. :srsnod: That's been a hangup for me. If it's those two they've had some decent moments of distancing. LC raised valid points to the contrary, and your perspective could tip the scale. Who would be LoRab's ...

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:57 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:55 pm falcon is my best guess. Like... not JJJ, not Epi, not Tony, not sig. Not me.
Noted.

That's been a hangup for me. If it's those two they've had some decent moments of distancing. LC raised valid points to the contrary, and your perspective could tip the scale.

This post pinged my suspiciometer: I just realized that one of the advantages that I have in this game so far,(and it's a big one for people like JJJ,)is the fact that I have zero history playing this, (without any help at least.) The reason I used JJJ as an example is because from what I understan...

Let me think it through with just night kills. motobot makes sense for anyone, so I'll focus on Scotty and Wilgy. LoRab - no reason to doubt she killed either of them sig - Wilgy town read him, Scotty had no opinion Long Con - Scotty suspected him, Wilgy lightly town read him Epignosis - Scotty ligh...

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