The Syndicate

Echo

Well, I have to go. Best of luck. Hopefully the game will be over when I return but I'm not holding my breath. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays, all.

Echo

:ponder: I don't really know anymore. Whichever one of is us bad, assuming it's not Delta, is just doing a really good job of it. I suppose I'm feeling something like.... Bravo Alpha Golf but those colors could just as easily be slightly different shades of green because the real problem is I feel ...

Echo

I really just want today to end well. Maybe I'm only seeing Hotel and Golf as a team cus it's the worst case scenario and I'm afraid of it. If those two (or actually either of them +Bravo) are the mafia then they've pretty much already won. So maybe the correct move now really is to hope we're deal...

Echo

I throw my hands up in the air at this point. I hope it's Delta and that just ends the game because otherwise we're pretty much losing since I can't seem to convince any of you all that it's not me.

Echo

I'll switch my vote to Delta I suppose. Not feeling Bravo anymore anyway. I really don't know who the baddie is right now. Damn you for being good at this game, whoever you are, lol. Please explain your change of heart. linki: okay. Where do your reads currently sit overall? :ponder: I don't really...

Echo

Well this isn't really the same reason why I was against Delta lynch at first but I don't think Delta is a solo baddie based on the semi relevant kills and lack of posts and presumably not being caught up, and after today there aren't many possible partners for Delta partners. If there are two mafi...

Echo

Look, someone had to throw some heat your way for something . I'm trying. I'm listening. Tell me where your head is at here. I'm not sure I even believe any of it; I just thought you have hardly gotten any heat all game and I had to come up with some explanation for your behavior if you are indeed ...

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I'll switch my vote to Delta I suppose. Not feeling Bravo anymore anyway. I really don't know who the baddie is right now. Damn you for being good at this game, whoever you are, lol.

Echo

I'd like to hear perspectives on the Juliet/Golf relationship I examined. Why is it believable? You lost me somewhere in there. The theory of Wilgy-as-Juliets was a pretty specific one: not only that Juliet might be Wilgy, but that Juliet might be someone trying to look like Wilgy . Given Echo's an...

Echo

Well this isn't really the same reason why I was against Delta lynch at first but I don't think Delta is a solo baddie based on the semi relevant kills and lack of posts and presumably not being caught up, and after today there aren't many possible partners for Delta partners. If there are two mafi...

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Alpha wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2017 10:18 pm Hey Bravo buddy I'm pretty sure the mafia is Golf and maybe/probably Hotel. Do you want to coordinate this shit and vote for one of them?

Echo

This is a lot of words to just say "everyone is town, I guess it's Delta, and if not it's Hotel, and reassessment will be necessary but I'm not really doing any of it ". Hell no. First of all, what you've done in this accusation is essentially disparage the POE strategy as suspicious with...

Echo

Bravo wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2017 9:58 pm
Hotel wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2017 1:20 pm I'm not feeling Delta as solo baddie...
Why?

I mean, I really hope it's true, it really just comes down to I think Delta has not been active on the site recent enough to have submitted the most recent kill.

Echo

I've switched my vote to Hotel. I'm certain this is the correct choice. If you still think Delta is the best choice then I understand. If we already have a solo wolf or we currently have a living wolf who is partnered with Delta then I think lynching Delta is an okay choice that won't lead to disas...

Echo

I'd like to hear perspectives on the Juliet/Golf relationship I examined. Why is it believable? You lost me somewhere in there. The theory of Wilgy-as-Juliets was a pretty specific one: not only that Juliet might be Wilgy, but that Juliet might be someone trying to look like Wilgy . Given Echo's an...

Echo

Today: Alpha has accused (almost) everyone Bravo has accused Golf Delta has accused no one Golf has accused Delta and Alpha Hotel has accused Delta and Bravo I don't see an easily compatible pair other than Golf and Hotel, but if they're mafia then Hotel is going through unnecessary hoops to play a...

Echo

Dammit Alpha, vote Bravo with me. It has to be him. I need to think about this. If Bravo is mafia then he has pulled wool over our eyes big time which is well within his skillset.... Probably? I think the kills make a little more sense with the context that Golf is who she appears to be, if she is ...

Echo

Crap, sorry for cutting this so close. Got busier than anticipated.

Echo

Dammit Alpha, vote Bravo with me. It has to be him.

Echo

If Hotel is being authentic about their theory about pushing Bravo and isn't just gonna do a "just kidding" vote at the last minute then.... Maybe there really is a solo mafia? It's certainly possible I'll switch my vote, but not because of "just kidding". I really want to see w...

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Alpha wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2017 2:42 pm I feel comforted by the fact that I am going to feel like an idiot no matter who the mafia is.

I know, right? Excellent game to whoever you are.

Echo

Alright so whether this was your intent or not I feel a little less sure that GH is the baddie pair. Which makes our scenario much more complicated and a little more hopeful than I hoped/feared. The fact that you think/thought this was some sort of concerted attempt at a powerplay makes me believe ...

Echo

Another thing that bothers me about Bravo now that I think about it is he's basically either soft or hard-pocketed all three of us throughout the game, yeah? He's at least soft town-read Golf and me all game. And he's NEVER expressed a single concern about Alpha. Explains why we're all still here. B...

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Hotel wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2017 2:02 pm A current rainbow:

Alpha

Golf

Delta

Bravo

Actually, switch Golf and Delta if there's only 1 baddie.

If there's 2, keep it as is.

Echo

And here are Bravo's interactions with Echo: We only get information if the Oracle gets nightkilled. As information-starved letters, the clear path is to out the Oracle so that they can be nightkilled. I am the Oracle. I don't get it. Why claim that right now? :shrug: Why not now? I question the str...

Echo

People I wouldn't vote for today: Alpha, India, Juliet Re: Juliet, I've appreciated that the rapping exists at all. In light of the discussion of ways to make life harder for the disguiser, such as adopting a distinctive style which will be more difficult for an interloper to replicate, the rapping...

Echo

I'm looking at Bravo's ISO as we speak and if we work with the assumption that Echo and Juliet are bad as well, Bravo looks bad Day 1 with respect to Juliet.

Echo

Thinking on it, I still stand by my Bravo assessment. He's spewing town reads everywhere and not solving anything. He should die.

Echo

If Delta could just play the fucking game they signed up for or get replaced, that'd be ideal for us all, but as it stands we have an elephant in the room that's causing a difficult situation. IMO we really need to start lynching inactives earlier at this site, but that's a discussion for another t...

Echo

A current rainbow:

Alpha

Golf

Delta

Bravo

Echo

If Delta could just play the fucking game they signed up for or get replaced, that'd be ideal for us all, but as it stands we have an elephant in the room that's causing a difficult situation. IMO we really need to start lynching inactives earlier at this site, but that's a discussion for another ti...

Echo

Since when am I not considering Golf as mafia? Why are you putting words in my mouth? It just seems like you aren't. We're at a crucial moment in the game and it's important to consider everyone as suspects. we are probably already in lylo. Why probably? I assume you think Echo was bad, but not Jul...

Echo

I've really, really thought you were town all game, Golf, but now even you're starting to make me wonder. I agree with your logic and can understand why you would go for a Delta lynch for that reason, but can you really fathom no reason that I would be a townie right now trying to reassess Bravo? I ...

Echo

Hotel going after Bravo is a bad look imo... But the numbers still support a Delta lynch. I'm not moving. How the hell is it a bad look? Why isn't anyone assessing Bravo at all? He isn't even doing anything. Meanwhile, I'm the one that we all know is going to be lynched in a final LYLO situation if...

Echo

Please tell me more about the Bravo is bad theory Well, think about it. We're essentially at endgame now, right? What's the best course of action for a mafia member to take right now, especially if that mafia member is a lone baddie and that baddie is sitting in a good position (deepwolf)? 9 times ...

Echo

I'm starting to think Bravo is bad. Oh. Huh....... 1. 4 players left 2. 2 baddies and 2 civs. 3. They kill one during night, bringing it down to 2 to 1. Game over. I want to be clear, avoiding this exact scenario is my #1 priority for today. In any other scenario we get a second chance if we get it...

Echo

I'm not feeling Delta as solo baddie... so unless there are two baddies (again, not feeling it, but possible), unfortunately I think it will be a mislynch. Nonetheless, this makes sense to me. I'm willing to vote Delta just because it makes 0 sense to leave an inactive player in LYLO because that's...

Echo

Okay, nevermind, I'll be here for a little while after all, but I'm multitasking and I'll randomly vanish at some point to return in the evening FYI.

Echo

I'm voting Bravo. Be back later.

Echo

And my problem with you right now is you are pushing a very illogical and risky lynch. I know you don't know my role if you are civ, but I do and that is why I am sure of this fact. And if you are the deep wolf you've got to paint Hotel and I as bad because you might have to convince Bravo or the o...

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Think about it. Alpha and Golf up in here freaking out over the direction of the lynch. Bravo has been in cruise control mode. If there's only one baddie, it's him, and he's content to let us bring each other down.

Echo

I'm starting to think Bravo is bad.

Echo

Christmas stuff is keeping me quite busy. I'm going to struggle to be in this thread much until later tonight approaching the deadline. Some quick thoughts on the discussion at hand: - At face value, I think Golf's push for a Delta lynch right now looks more like a civilian concern than a con to pu...

Echo

The absolute only risk here is if two people are bad and neither one is Delta , I just really don't see that as likely no matter how I dice it. Actions do not support that theory. I guess my problem with this is exactly that. If you and Hotel are mafia then you'd want to push exactly this narrative...

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Alpha wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2017 1:11 am I'm not willing to gamble based on the idea that we might have been right about Juliet, no matter how probable it may be.

LOL, this is funny given what I just posted. Well, alright then. But I'm not bad. Why is it Golf?

Echo

1. 4 players left 2. 2 baddies and 2 civs. 3. They kill one during night, bringing it down to 2 to 1. Game over. I want to be clear, avoiding this exact scenario is my #1 priority for today. In any other scenario we get a second chance if we get it wrong today, so I'm playing under the assumption t...

Echo

2 currently living and active mafia members is the worst case scenario and lynching Delta is the number one way to not be prepared for it. It feels really sketchy that Golf and Hotel seem to be so against considering that the other might be mafia at such a crucial time in the game. Since when am I ...

Echo

Frankly Alpha, I am concerned by the fact you are pushing this plan to vote someone other than Delta. I am inclined to think Delta is our last baddie, but if I am wrong I'm looking at you for deep wolf. For clarification purposes, is this a real accusation or are you just saying this to make your t...

Echo

They were my posts from the wrong account. One was just saying I have some pretty serious concerns I wanted to get out there before the votes start coming in and telling you what my plans were so when I would be back to get them into the thread. And the second was :sighs: because I realized I poste...

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Bravo wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2017 3:16 pm I'd like to hear perspectives on the Juliet/Golf relationship I examined.

Why is it believable? You lost me somewhere in there.

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