The Syndicate

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 4:36 pm Also one thing to note, which I wasn’t going to bring up this soon, but the convo is dead so I will, if we flip mafia today we need to ALSO hit mafia tomorrow phase or we loose.

So a bussing strategy isn’t out of the question, that adds an extra layer of toughness.

Certainly true.

You’re more confident than I am, sig. I may follow your lead today.

Put another way: this game has been characterized by players contributing to the discussion predominantly when they’re under pressure — when they have something to answer for. Other than that it’s emotional neutrality or absence. That applies strongly to LoRab and Epi. It applied to our previous mis...

I don’t know why anyone would be confident that anyone else in that group is town. If I understood maybe I wouldn’t find this experience so excruciating.

@JaggedJimmyJay walk me through the epi evolution again? You went from town, to convinced he was mafia, to town and fine with lorab, to thinking he’s mafia again? It’s just uncertainty. I don’t know. There’s a pretty easy argument available to call every candidate in the [LoRab, Epi, falcon, LC] gr...

sig being mafia would certainly explain why this game has been so miserable. I’d need someone to lay out a theory/case.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 3:58 pm Tony, fine, he's got good reasons. How exactly is sig townier than me at this point?

It’s more difficult to conceive of possible mafia agendas in his approach, and I have never questioned the authenticity. While you have had some strong moments too, it’s not quite the same.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 3:57 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 3:51 pm Could easily flip back. I don’t actually trust anyone outside sig/Tony.
Stop being intentionally mean, you trust me.

I don’t know what’s “mean” about that, but I had no such intention.

Could easily flip back. I don’t actually trust anyone outside sig/Tony.

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

Yesterday’s epiphany about LoRab being a “slam dunk” while he was leading the poll seems convenient.

Unvoting for the moment so LoRab can breathe a bit.

@LoRab if you had to choose just two suspects to be the mafia team, who would they be?

This game drives me nuts.

Thanks for your careful consideration of things, sig, whatever you decide.

Tony moved so [VOTE: LoRab] aubergine

Wanted to keep the wagons close to maintain a pressured environment. I am still listening to all arguments.

If it isn’t her then good game and well played.

I'm sure mafia do say that sometimes! To be clear, that wasn't meant to convey a flavor of everyone seems so golden and good! , but rather [/i]everyone has moments of seeming fine, I guess, I don't know, whatever[/i]. The struggle is discrimination. All y'all have looked the same to me for much of t...

Very well. Just for my own satisfaction, why did you say everyone has seemed town at one point or another? (And you can tell me to kiss my own ass if you want- fair is fair) Valid question. There are levels to it. I think that LoRab has, at least for brief moments, looked earnest when I am viewing ...

What I like most about LoRab and/or falcon theory is that it isn't coming from me. Kagemusha Mafia me is not a me that I want to follow.

What has Epignosis actually done in this game that is indicative of his being a civilian? Serious question. Everyone has seemed town at one point or another. Who cares anymore. Raise the bar. Oh Jay. Dear Jay. Explain what Lorab has done that has fit this description. Nothing. LoRab can absolutely ...

I think I am on board. I'm going to let my vote sit for a bit for reasons. Also Tony didn't say anything about my offer to lock my vote, so I'm not obligated to lock it. :P

Glorfindel is good people.

If the team is LoRab and falcon, then win or lose this is one of Long Con's finest hours as a civilian.

Maybe I am a moron for relying on a claimed independent to be my rock in this game, but what else am I gonna do.

@TonyStarkPrime, may we need to reconsider here? I know where reconsidering has gotten me in this game, but what's one more?

What’s your thought on Lorab’s vote I don't care for it. I was surprised that she agreed with my rationale when it squarely implicated her, and she submitted to the vote with no resistance. I'm not sure how to interpret that right now from the standpoint of a falcon/LoRab team theory, but it makes ...

Another way to put it -- if the only real candidates to be a mafia teammate of LoRab are the three people currently voting for LoRab, then falcon's vote packs the least punch.

falcon is my best guess. Like... not JJJ, not Epi, not Tony, not sig. Not me. :shrug: Noted. :srsnod: That's been a hangup for me. If it's those two they've had some decent moments of distancing. LC raised valid points to the contrary, and your perspective could tip the scale. Who would be LoRab's ...

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:57 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:55 pm falcon is my best guess. Like... not JJJ, not Epi, not Tony, not sig. Not me.
Noted.

That's been a hangup for me. If it's those two they've had some decent moments of distancing. LC raised valid points to the contrary, and your perspective could tip the scale.

This post pinged my suspiciometer: I just realized that one of the advantages that I have in this game so far,(and it's a big one for people like JJJ,)is the fact that I have zero history playing this, (without any help at least.) The reason I used JJJ as an example is because from what I understan...

Let me think it through with just night kills. motobot makes sense for anyone, so I'll focus on Scotty and Wilgy. LoRab - no reason to doubt she killed either of them sig - Wilgy town read him, Scotty had no opinion Long Con - Scotty suspected him, Wilgy lightly town read him Epignosis - Scotty ligh...

lorab @LoRab If you're town, come help us solve Is this Town falcon, trying to sort players on this do-or-die Day? I did think he showed some urgency in his other posts. You could argue the vote lacks urgency though, sure. Tony said earlier that he refused to vote falcon. I think LoRab is probably ...

lorab @LoRab If you're town, come help us solve Is this Town falcon, trying to sort players on this do-or-die Day? I did think he showed some urgency in his other posts. You could argue the vote lacks urgency though, sure. Tony said earlier that he refused to vote falcon. I think LoRab is probably ...

Granted, falcon's vote could change that too if he remains open-minded (if he's town).

We're forced to have an immediate sense of urgency this evening even if we still have another 23 hours. If @TonyStarkPrime is going to be gone and we assume sig is voting for me, then Tony's vote effectively becomes the person who dies. We have to consolidate.

Since I did my own look at Lorab's ISO, have have a different viewpoint that recognizes the possibility of some simple distancing between Lorab and falcon that could be team-indicative. It's not impossible. It'd be very valuable if you could pull out a post or two that guides you toward that conclu...

You've addressed things in my posts that you have taken issue with, Epignosis, so I don't need to see that expanded on. But it'd be useful to know why you think LC is the other one. The "Let's be towncore" rubbed me the wrong way. You seem gleefully excited to finish the game on me, and L...

You've addressed things in my posts that you have taken issue with, Epignosis, so I don't need to see that expanded on. But it'd be useful to know why you think LC is the other one.

I mean that respectfully.

I have considered Long Con and LoRab as a possible team. If Epignosis is not mafia, I don't know what else it'd be. I'm also not sure it matters, because I don't see how we win this game regardless of who it is.

That isn't an affront to the host or anybody else. My eyeballs hurt. I'm tired. Mafia is a thing to do when the shift is over, but I don't always have the strength for it. JJJ knows this. He just hosted me. LC I think knows this. Mafia are just railroading me into oblivion for a quick win because w...

(Glorfindel the Mafia player was long known for a "trust tell" in which he refused to lie under any circumstances)

@TonyStarkPrime if you'd prefer LoRab over Epi, I will follow you.

@Long Con present view of LoRab?

Smugness, when applicable, is best reserved for post-game. No smug.

Current thoughts: I’m of 2 minds on LC, because I read him wrong last game. But he has been pingy. Especially using the FEB emoji. So, not voting him for now, but keeping an eyeball there. :eye: I do suspect Wilgy. His posts feel like he’s faking himself, if that makes sense. Like, he’s trying too ...

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:20 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:32 pm I hope LC is town, because that is so wise.

Is there any world where you see LC as Maf?

Let's say for the sake of argument you actually are Town...do you feel pocketed?

It’s quite possible. I think he’d most likely be teamed with LoRab if so.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:54 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:26 pm @TonyStarkPrime I will lock this vote today if you cannot be here tomorrow. I’d only change if forced by self-preservation.

Wait, are we able to lock votes?

Just by verbal contract. There’s no button.

I hope LC is town, because that is so wise.

@TonyStarkPrime in case that mention didn’t work

@TonyStarkPrime[/vote] I will lock this vote today if you cannot be here tomorrow. I’d only change if forced by self-preservation.

@falcon45ca I can’t get Epi to talk about you, so he’s either teamed with you or trying to make it look that way. If it’s the latter, only you can drive the wedge.

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