The Syndicate

I trust you and I trust leetic. Let's end this. Epi's shifted view on me and WWA without much of anything here. This reeks. I don't actually know why Epi trusts me now, considering he wrote an entire case on me earlier, but I don't think this post was scummy. The post wasn't scummy, the entire shif...

I don't see why the idea of Brad being Davos should be so easily discounted. After all, it has been shown twice that socks don't die at the same time as their owners. Doing the bare minimum to avoid spewing is something I would easily see Brad doing. Still, if there is a remaining landlord, that wo...

I'm not Davos's puppet master. Why would I push you for the same reason? I've already explained why I don't think you are landlord, do you suddenly expect me to change those thoughts after successfully hitting the landlord in East? I didn't put effort into a case on you, you've basically all but sa...

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:12 am I'm ngl, Wilgy's claim that my worldview is wrong kind of makes me think he actually isn't the landlord and I've caught him for the wrong reasons, and he's really the arbiter instead.

What are these wrong reasons?

in addition to the constant argument that Cape being the only "player" that can see both threads feels more and more like mechanical opportunism, What argument? https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic.php?p=1107584#p1107584 This is confirmed by the hosts. Aye, only player, but we are ...

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 7:31 pm I trust you and I trust leetic. Let's end this.

Epi's shifted view on me and WWA without much of anything here. This reeks.

I don't see why the idea of Brad being Davos should be so easily discounted. After all, it has been shown twice that socks don't die at the same time as their owners. Doing the bare minimum to avoid spewing is something I would easily see Brad doing. Still, if there is a remaining landlord, that wo...

It seems Epi has already realized his mistake, but I'll go over the logic of Brad being Davos just to be sure. Cape90's role PM said that they were the only one who could see both threads, so Davos can't be anyone from my side, and Davos flipped as a wolf, meaning they can't be anyone who flipped t...

Ctrl+fing "Epi" in Ricochet's ISO gives 41 results, but the amount of substantial interactions is far fewer, with the one I quoted being the only really notable one. It seems Ricochet was trying to use Epi to jumpstart a vote on Delta, possibly in an attempt to protect falcon and/or Lemon...

Bleh, if we are in Arbiter controlled lylo, WWA's stance continues to make sense, but again confbias.

Also if 2 WWA has to be it because of the thread split, but eh.

In other words, if true we worry that we may be in Arbiter controlled lylo and if we survive we hope that crossfire removes a W and not a civ.

I don't see why the idea of Brad being Davos should be so easily discounted. After all, it has been shown twice that socks don't die at the same time as their owners. Doing the bare minimum to avoid spewing is something I would easily see Brad doing. Still, if there is a remaining landlord, that wo...

Like, where is the question, "if Davos is only proxy, and there's still a landlord in our thread, where's the Arbiter proxy?"

That inherently makes the threads uneven, but the conclusion that, in spite of that, I must be landlord (but maybe possibly arbiter) is wild to me.

Yeah, I've been chilling here thinking myself in circles about you this past hour. Landlord WWA is even less likely to kill Nutella as that creates a risky Landlord, Landlord, Town PoE which is losing. Town WWA's first assumption SHOULD be that I'm Arbiter as 2 landlords from their thread had been f...

[VOTE: WWA] aubergine

I think you accidentally overstepped your shove of me.

It seems Epi has already realized his mistake, but I'll go over the logic of Brad being Davos just to be sure. Cape90's role PM said that they were the only one who could see both threads, so Davos can't be anyone from my side, and Davos flipped as a wolf, meaning they can't be anyone who flipped t...

Some thoughts as the kids pull me away again and I'm done with the skim. WWA's worldview is wrong and comes from a slot where they at least think they know the state of the game. This reeks of TMI. Their thoughts on who the arbiter is almost feels secondary. The thought that the Nutella kill comes f...

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 11:40 pm I also do not think leetic or WWA would kill sig. That's a Wilgy move.

Why?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 11:34 pm My view is this:

Delta: Landlord

DrWilgy: Arbiter

Didn't you argue against me being an Arbiter previously?

It seems Epi has already realized his mistake, but I'll go over the logic of Brad being Davos just to be sure. Cape90's role PM said that they were the only one who could see both threads, so Davos can't be anyone from my side, and Davos flipped as a wolf, meaning they can't be anyone who flipped t...

So they were town and wolf aligned but didn't count?

I don't really suspect Epi, either, because they moved their vote after I unvoted Davos, and I can't think of a reason why a wolf would rather flip a sock puppet than someone who's a mislunch. But you GG'd me WHILE thinking this? It was because of Epi's timing, though. Idk, I've been rethinking thi...

Nope. Still doesn't check out. leetic said this in RESPONSE to you saying, "you should ONLY vote within Wilgy/me today. Davos's flip should confirm to you that the Landlord is on the East side and can only be one of the two of us." If leetic has civilian information, then leetic is breaki...

Yeah and skimming Scrappy, the closest thing I get to "puppet supporting owner" is interactions with LC, but that's not even firm.

To everyone else: you should ONLY vote within Wilgy/me today. Davos's flip should confirm to you that the Landlord is on the East side and can only be one of the two of us. Brad being Davos makes enough sense. I do think Wilgy is likely the remaining Arbiter though Ah shit, I forgot that the sock p...

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 8:13 pm I don't really suspect Epi, either, because they moved their vote after I unvoted Davos, and I can't think of a reason why a wolf would rather flip a sock puppet than someone who's a mislunch.

But you GG'd me WHILE thinking this?

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 8:04 pm [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

You played a really good game, mate.

When you go from how we were las cycle to this, this almost feels preformatory.

You know there are two seperate wolves right? This post feels really fake Aye, if I need to flip to toss you and they eventually get to the remaining wolf that's perfectly fine. And pray tell, how will they do this exactly? Mislynching me means it's 3-1-1 discounting Davos, and if town gets nightki...

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 6:45 pm I am picturing choking the life out of Kermit the Frog right now.

After grabbing the lingerie, hopefully not in any way related to that.

So your logic is that I had to kill nutella because she wanted to kill in my side. I point out that she was interested in pushing WWA and you. Then you counter by saying nutella also suspected Delta. And this makes nutella a threat to me how? Unless Delta is my partner, which would require a team o...

I'm actually at the point where if I'm wrong on Leetic, just toss me next cycle. Hell, toss me this cycle, and if the game is still going on after my flip, toss Leetic next phase. You know there are two seperate wolves right? This post feels really fake Aye, if I need to flip to toss you and they e...

nutella was voting WWA lol. I don't think this narrative you are trying to push holds up. No, you can't just call the narrative wrong when you continue to push your own false narrative, so let's continue: The question is, ' why Nutella would be a better kill than someone from my side or even WWA fr...

I'm actually at the point where if I'm wrong on Leetic, just toss me next cycle. Hell, toss me this cycle, and if the game is still going on after my flip, toss Leetic next phase. You know there are two seperate wolves right? This post feels really fake Aye, if I need to flip to toss you and they e...

Ignoring the sock we’re at 4-1-1 If we misvote today and have 1 night kill then we’ve still got a final phase. Also the flip side with my Wilgy read is he could still be mafia just landlord. So there’s that I'm still finding it unwise to ignore the sock. And still that's what you're basically doing...

Likely they assumed nutella was a wolf. Mechanical interference like redirecting is also a possibility, but there's no use speculating on it when there's no claiming. I don't see why you think that nutella would be a better kill than someone from my side or even WWA from my perspective. Furthermore...

I'm actually at the point where if I'm wrong on Leetic, just toss me next cycle. Hell, toss me this cycle, and if the game is still going on after my flip, toss Leetic next phase. You know there are two seperate wolves right? This post feels really fake Aye, if I need to flip to toss you and they e...

Ignoring the sock we’re at 4-1-1 If we misvote today and have 1 night kill then we’ve still got a final phase. Also the flip side with my Wilgy read is he could still be mafia just landlord. So there’s that I'm still finding it unwise to ignore the sock. And still that's what you're basically doing...

Wilgy has essentially been forced into an unsustainable PoE, while WWA at least seems to realize the gravity of their situation. How is WWA exempt from this unsustainable PoE? Why am I the focus here, what makes us different? While I do hold that the nutella kill makes more sense from WWA than Wilg...

Because that totally wouldn't case the remaining wolves to lash out at my side of the thread! I'm starting to wonder if that is the reason Doesn't even make sense as a counter point. You're arguing that wolves are in east, killed nutella, and are now because they've put a chokehold poe on themselve...

I'm actually at the point where if I'm wrong on Leetic, just toss me next cycle.

Hell, toss me this cycle, and if the game is still going on after my flip, toss Leetic next phase.

In truth, I believe Wilgy is slightly more likely to flip wolf right now than WWA. Wilgy has essentially been forced into an unsustainable PoE, while WWA at least seems to realize the gravity of their situation. While I do hold that the nutella kill makes more sense from WWA than Wilgy, as I said e...

Wilgy has essentially been forced into an unsustainable PoE, while WWA at least seems to realize the gravity of their situation. How is WWA exempt from this unsustainable PoE? Why am I the focus here, what makes us different? While I do hold that the nutella kill makes more sense from WWA than Wilg...

sig wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 3:00 pm Ignoring the sock we’re at 4-1-1

If we misvote today and have 1 night kill then we’ve still got a final phase.

Also the flip side with my Wilgy read is he could still be mafia just landlord. So there’s that

I'm still finding it unwise to ignore the sock.

I don't see myself voting outside of Davos or Leetic this cycle. My biggest qualm leetic is that I've seen them be this obstinate about sticking to a PoE based on their own assumptions before as town, even if the assumptions weren't correct. I do think I spotted an inconsistency in their logic, but...

Ok hi I have a couple minutes but I don't think I'll be back again for eod and I need to vote Gut tells me to vote Wilgy because there's a very high chance he's a wolf Brain says if he flips town we lose the game and we absolutely need a wolf But I'm probably overthinking it? This is pretty much my...

My argument is, Nut was killed so that you could continue the push of East side players. You're response is, 'but look, nut suspected both of you' and you then post a lone suspicion on WWA and avoid all the posts of Nut advocating for west as well. Because that totally wouldn't case the remaining w...

I don't see myself voting outside of Davos or Leetic this cycle.

My argument is, Nut was killed so that you could continue the push of East side players. You're response is, 'but look, nut suspected both of you' and you then post a lone suspicion on WWA and avoid all the posts of Nut advocating for west as well. Because that totally wouldn't case the remaining w...

My argument is, Nut was killed so that you could continue the push of East side players. You're response is, 'but look, nut suspected both of you' and you then post a lone suspicion on WWA and avoid all the posts of Nut advocating for west as well. Because that totally wouldn't case the remaining w...

My argument is, Nut was killed so that you could continue the push of East side players. You're response is, 'but look, nut suspected both of you' and you then post a lone suspicion on WWA and avoid all the posts of Nut advocating for west as well. Because that totally wouldn't case the remaining w...

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