The Syndicate

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:56 am but if u take a look at most mafia readslists, they have us as either "3p" or "question mark" or something like that

-t

This is majorly indicative imo.

Wolves would naturally assume that your role is someone they can push and get elimmed if they need to.

yeah sloonei in case u missed it our "vest" extends to not just normal death, but to getting chopped once lol (we claimed it pretty early, day 2 i think, maybe day 3) (it falls off in lylo) -t Mine doesn't extend to getting chopped. And I want you to double check. Is it lylo, or just if i...

Also, notably, svs’s bulletproof vest does not appear to have that stipulation.

Actually I just went back and read my own role. It’s not lylo. It’s if it ends the game. So if pc is the last wolf I think one shot would kill them. huh? PC claimed the same thing about his bulletproof vest as mine, which I have been conceiving as ‘doesn’t work at lylo’ in my head but I just realis...

Actually I just went back and read my own role.

It’s not lylo.

It’s if it ends the game. So if pc is the last wolf I think one shot would kill them.

The other possibility here is it genuinely is PC and I’m clearing them for the wrong reasons. But that just seems so unlikely. I also am about 85% in the camp of clearing Party Crasher for several strong but not rock-solid reasons, and 15% wondering if I'm making a mistake there. But if they’ve bee...

The other possibility here is it genuinely is PC and I’m clearing them for the wrong reasons. But that just seems so unlikely.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:32 am @Party Crasher @Porscha What do you think of Golden claiming that he faked a town read on Alison to win her trust?

AND get her to vig me, which was really the important part.

From my perspective: Sloonei is cleared by rondo PC is cleared because that hydra just isn’t wolf in this set up imo Dizzy is cleared by his claim and by the fact his game has replicated MY town game, the version that is outside my wolfrange, and I just find that incredibly hard to believe is wolf ...

I don’t find Porscha wolfy at all. I like the progression with Alison being posted by Sloonei.

For me, this is a case of ‘I deeply respect this wolf game’ because I can’t help but reach my conclusion but I had a had previously reached a world view that Porscha was towny as f**k.

Idk I kind of vibe with the idea of throwing 1 town and 1 wolf partner into the mix for wifom spew reasons like we are doing now :ponder: :ponder: What you pondering gamer Wow that post is something… Cuz I fucking called it? :dab: Lmfao Why would I as a wolf say that? It would certainly be extraord...

From my perspective: Sloonei is cleared by rondo PC is cleared because that hydra just isn’t wolf in this set up imo Dizzy is cleared by his claim and by the fact his game has replicated MY town game, the version that is outside my wolfrange, and I just find that incredibly hard to believe is wolf T...

What is it Side eyeing Seanzie and Creature joining that Dennis wagon like that This feels a lot like Sabi knows Dennis is town and is preparing in advance to shade Seanzie and Creature for voting him. Idk I kind of vibe with the idea of throwing 1 town and 1 wolf partner into the mix for wifom spe...

I do think the Sabi spew on Seanzie looks good for him and would prefer SVS/112 at this time What is it Side eyeing Seanzie and Creature joining that Dennis wagon like that This feels a lot like Sabi knows Dennis is town and is preparing in advance to shade Seanzie and Creature for voting him. Idk ...

I’m not lying on my role! For goodness sake why is it so hard to believe! I can’t wait until after the game so you can see!

Golden's early-game progression on Alison feels noteworthy. It starts off with some blunt dismissal of her early suspcision . Then it turns into open skepticism . After a brief back-and-forth, he seeks more elaboration from people who know Alison . But then he eventually settles on a town read , sp...

Sorry, her post responding to mine here was. Can you explain what you saw that made you want to do that? Her response was false… she DIDNT have an answer to why my conduct was wolfy. She was just throwing shade at someone she didn’t know for townreading someone else she didn’t know without intellec...

Golden's early-game progression on Alison feels noteworthy. It starts off with some blunt dismissal of her early suspcision . Then it turns into open skepticism . After a brief back-and-forth, he seeks more elaboration from people who know Alison . But then he eventually settles on a town read , sp...

Sorry, her post responding to mine here was. Can you explain what you saw that made you want to do that? Her response was false… she DIDNT have an answer to why my conduct was wolfy. She was just throwing shade at someone she didn’t know for townreading someone else she didn’t know without intellec...

Sorry, her post responding to mine here was.

Kate Don't think GOC usually has VTs, and going out of your way to claim it when you could just say "I'm definitely town" is doubly weird. Why you no respond to me? What do you want me to respond to you about? I said my role, you said you'd elim it. Good for you. I'm not going into specif...

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:04 am Do we think the remaining mafia is/are lost?

If we hit every non-lost mafia in this game and just missed the one lost one, that’s bad luck.

At this point Occam’s razor is that the setup for this game is straightforward.

It is later. I didn't get an item. so either ender gave an item to rondo or a wolf has it and is just chilling ok cool i guess Double targeting Porscha seems unlikely. I assume he would give it to rondo cuz rondo was shielding him I think this is probably the straightforward answer. I can understan...

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 9:44 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 8:48 pm It is later. I didn't get an item.
so either ender gave an item to rondo or a wolf has it and is just chilling

ok cool i guess

Double targeting Porscha seems unlikely.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 8:44 pm If the last wolf is lost wolf, all spew is irrelevant. So that's fun.

I think non-team wolves and non-team 3ps are exceedingly unlikely given they didn’t exist in the first 35/40 flips.

We have zero basis in either revealed roles or results of literally any other power we’ve seen in the game to believe there’s a redirector.

It means believing eg wolves knew ender gave guns and never tried to get one.

What if ... hear me out Mod squad kills on every even night. They killed Alison N2. They killed Neon N4. What if Mafia didn't kill anyone N4. Because they failed their soup on D4, and that was their punishment. And the earliest possible kill they could make is on N5. And it was on Rondo - so he can...

So rondo may ultimately win town the game by saving us from ourselves.

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 6:11 pm

wolf sloonei winning goc after getting falsely peeked as town

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Genuinely we’d all be elimming Sloonei without that peek I expect.

Gotten through day 1 on Porscha. Other than a throwaway response to Sean, the only wolf interactions for Porscha on day 1 are with MR and Sabi. With MR it’s asking michelle why she wrs MR, MR makes a jokey response, Porscha laughs. The sabi interaction is deeper. My summary is: Sabi calls Porscha a ...

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 5:02 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 4:56 pm As far as I’ve got in Porscha iso her only mention or interaction with other wolves is to ask someone why they wr MR. I haven’t had time to go further.
Did you skip the parts with sabi and alison

Haven’t gotten to them yet

As far as I’ve got in Porscha iso her only mention or interaction with other wolves is to ask someone why they wr MR. I haven’t had time to go further.

Thinking it’s me is paranoia and a really bad take. I’ve started an iso on Porscha and I’m pretty confident that’s your answer which I’ve said multiple times. I’m not pushing it because I haven’t done the work yet. But tutuu, you haven’t done the work either. Stop confbiasing yourself over and over ...

Dizzys SR on us feels real and I feel like its towny I really think it's just Golden. Golden is not pushing a scumread today, he is just defending himself To answer some points @Dyslexicon 1) We were passive about SVS because I was scared. I lacked confidence and I didnt want to be controlling. I w...

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:51 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 5:53 am But it could be American soup?
Why would you assume that as a role? None of the flipped wolves has had a role like that, but town has. This is making up special cases just to force me into fitting being wolf

Not to force, just to be open minded.

I'm sure dizzy will come back in here later and sweet talk me into second guessing myself but... they kinda make the most sense to me The last wolf cant be caught on spew or general gameplay decisions very much... but did dizzy vote scotty over svs with you golden? Were you the only 2 remaining pla...

@Porscha are my reasons for townclearing PC flawed?

But it could be American soup?

It’s just that dizzy did get to prove their claim!

*sigh* idk why my abilities never seemed to reach their targets but like idk who to go here if it isnt dizzy Dizzy could have just killed ender to be able to claim vt as the shot especially if rondo was killed outside of mafias hands I do think from the perspective of t!you it can only make sense i...

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 4:35 am Alright btw does anyone still suspect pc

It’s broken af to have the hydra in wolfchat.

And I believe then when they talk about their back and forth neighbourhood chat.

I think those are good reasons for the tr personally.

Although I am worried that if we don’t end it today we don’t get another. We definitely can’t end up 3/2 on someone/dizzy eg, or if we elim wrong day 6 doesn’t happen.

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 3:46 am Porscha's claim is by far the worst which weirdly means it's ... the towniest? Is that a dangerous read to make?

-t

Yes. It’s either dizzy or Porscha and if you let Porscha push you off with mechanics that’s a problem.

We need a you/me/sloon consensus both days here.

You’re timfoiling, you’re spending all your time worrying about mechanics. I’m not lying. If I was lying, it still wouldn’t be indicative of me being wolf though. I roleclaim lie as town all the time. So even though I’m not lying, whether I am or not should not be where your focus is, My thread rela...

Tutuu, please… I can’t keep doing this.

Do full interactive reads of

Me and Alison
Me and marmot
Me and svs

I do not think, if you do this, a wolf read of me can possibly be sustained.

Now im back to thinking its Golden The only evidence of his role is Kate being neighbored n3 and then dying the next day. As a day action. Her and Urist All of the mafia roles have been pretty simple, 1 line of text Golden could simply be a 1-shot mafia neighborizer Every other one of his footprint...

With respect to Porscha and Golden, multiple people (maybe yourselves included) perceive your wolf range as a lot smaller than your town range As in, you are not known for being godlike superstar unreal fabulous solo hero wolves Dizzy is absolutely known for that. His wolf range is infinite, as in,...

Nothing has come up in any time to explain an extra kill that wasn’t in Alison’s role…

Also I don’t think it’s accurate to call it a redirect, in the sense that the victim is chosen at random from those in my neighbourhood. Part of why I baited Alison to vig me day 2… Btw we still don’t have an explanation for Alison’s claimed kill, do we? I think sig shot you or her ya lol I meant t...

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