The Syndicate

Ricochet wrote:
ObscureAllure wrote:Which is why we need to just do it as opposed to waiting and letting something crazy happen like it did yesterday. If anyone other than the two confirmed cylons die today, I'll scream.
What sort of crazy something do you expect to happen? There's the fleet jump posibility, of course, but the three votes on LoRab already have that covered. If we don't build a second major wagon or something of the sort, we are unlikely to witness any more potential crazy amnesty happenings. So what else?

Have you been watching this game? This is like one of the craziest games I've seen so far. Im still not entirely sure who *I* am for gods sake (I'm kidding. Well, half kidding. I really should watch this show.). and there have been triggers left and right, I've been the victim of it twice already. And now we can't decide if cylons should die or not and if humans can be mafia or not and oh my toasters.... Can we just follow the plan and lynch a cylon?!

Ebwop sorry it was zebra that said confirmed civvies sorry I'm tired

a2thezebra wrote:I haven't "saluted" because I'm not as confident that LoRab is bad as I was before, so I won't be voting until later.

Zebra - He means saying so say we all

Rico - And since when are zebra or I confirmed civvie? (Not that I'm
Saying either of us aren't civvies, just missed the official memo)

Which is why we need to just do it as opposed to waiting and letting something crazy happen like it did yesterday. If anyone other than the two confirmed cylons die today, I'll scream.

So say we all.

Vote:LoRab

Y'all crazy if you do anything else.

Ricochet wrote:
LoRab wrote:I'll also point out that everyone is assuming Nero was civ, but we don't actually know that. He could have been on a partly human or human mafia; he could be final five and those 5 may be or may become bad; he could have been recruited. Heck, for all we know, there's a seemer role on the baddie team.

So your big defense is saying that Nerolunar could have actually been *insert everything in the Mafia dictionary*.

If there's a seemer, how would we even know? There are no flips whatsoever, thus far. You're either throwing every notion available out there and actually have info on this matter.

This post that you've made is not favorable to your lynch odds tomorrow, as far as I'm concerned.

There was a doubt as to whether or not this should happen tomorrow?

ObscureAllure wrote:
DrWilgy wrote: 1. Only a baddie can slip.
2. What brought that possibility to mind if it was impossible? Thinking of slipping is something only a baddie would naturally do.
3. I think you just did.

We found our Cavil everyone!

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awe damnit that was supposed to be like four lines. Here fixed.

DrWilgy wrote: 1. Only a baddie can slip.
2. What brought that possibility to mind if it was impossible? Thinking of slipping is something only a baddie would naturally do.
3. I think you just did.

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Ricochet wrote:
ObscureAllure wrote:
LoRab wrote:

ObscureAllure wrote:So you would put me before LoRab? Before people who have already said it and are cylon mafia like LongCon? I've already proven I'm not Nutella's partner in crime. You want to come after me for refusing to get punished again while ignoring mafia? That's on you. I've already received golden's wrath once this game, y'all done lost your marbles if you think I'm doing it again.
If there is more than 1 mafia, then your not being LA's teammate does not mean that you are not bad.
I hate to admit this because it probably looks bad for me but I do think there are two mafia, one directed by cavil and one that is either all human or mixed. Or, I think it's one mafia with recruiting powers. Either way you're right it doesn't completely exclude me. But nonetheless, I am not mafia.
That's a very specific assumption.

No it's not. The people in this game who know BG have been saying since day one that he's the jack-ass and mostly likely head mafia. And he's listed as the first person and number one cylon. Why is that a jump when I say it but not the half a dozen times people who watch the show have told us that's who it is? Hell someone just accused me of being him leader of the pack by name last night. For serious?

LoRab wrote:

ObscureAllure wrote:So you would put me before LoRab? Before people who have already said it and are cylon mafia like LongCon? I've already proven I'm not Nutella's partner in crime. You want to come after me for refusing to get punished again while ignoring mafia? That's on you. I've already received golden's wrath once this game, y'all done lost your marbles if you think I'm doing it again.
If there is more than 1 mafia, then your not being LA's teammate does not mean that you are not bad.

I hate to admit this because it probably looks bad for me but I do think there are two mafia, one directed by cavil and one that is either all human or mixed. Or, I think it's one mafia with recruiting powers. Either way you're right it doesn't completely exclude me. But nonetheless, I am not mafia.

Silverwolf wrote:OA, I don't think you will get in trouble for claiming cylon if we all do it. I fail to see how Golden would single you out of all of us.

You don't know my role, deary. Best not assume things you don't know.

Nah it's easy - everyone but me just make the claim. It relieves the playing field.

Again, I think *everyone else* should do it. Just not me.

Matt wrote:I never once said I'd rather lynch you or anyone else before Lorab.

Do you not agree, that by YOU saying you will not do this, it opens up the door for others to come in and say "Yeah I dun wanna get punished either so I dun wanna say it" ?

I don't get how you would get punished for saying "I'm not a Cylon". How is that even punishable in any legit universe?

I disagree because A) we've called it out, B) I have evidence of what I said and my punishment.

And it's punishable because I wasn't being a good little Teapot who sticks to her role and doesn't piss off the Golden God of Battlestar Gallactica lore.

Linki: yeah well neither does the message in my inbox (make sense) but I never watched the show so I just do as I'm told.

Linki: No, when you anger the gods of sticking to your role description, you definitely can get in trouble. I'm not explaining it much more than this because then I'll just get punished for outing my role or win con. I'm leaving it as this: this girl ain't claiming to be any robot Borg bender android looking mofos and that's final.

The difference between me and them is I think everyone *but me* should do it AND I've got evidence of my punishment for the last time I got too close to the fire. And they aren't my role. Everyone else has no excuse, so it opens the door for no one else.

So you would put me before LoRab? Before people who have already said it and are cylon mafia like LongCon? I've already proven I'm not Nutella's partner in crime. You want to come after me for refusing to get punished again while ignoring mafia? That's on you. I've already received golden's wrath once this game, y'all done lost your marbles if you think I'm doing it again.

I get your theory. I even support your theory. I think everyone *else* should say it. I ain't saying it.

The last time I made a statement remotely close to that, I spoke in smilies for two days. You out your damn mind. In a game full of triggers for every little thing we do you want me to say that? You don't know my role. You don't know the impact of saying that in other ways. Uh uh. Ain't no way.

Ricochet wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Ricochet wrote:Well two things:

If tomorrow is claim day from everyone, all Cylons will have amnesty. Unless we lynch a human that might happen to be bad, a mislynch is virtually guaranteed.

The plan is manipulable. The Cylons could blend and then maybe fuel a witchhunt for anyone who hasn't claimed. Because god knows some of you are already in "he who opposes = FoS" mode.
There are several players who can't have amnesty tomorrow, as Matt has highlighted. Lorab is one of them and likely to be lynched.

The point of the plan was to eliminate any of the amnesty existing, not to create a WIFOM world where the Cylons can wreak havoc. We've already agreed that Humans have nothing to lose by abiding. I've pointed out multiple reasons they have something to gain from it. As a result, I can't think of a reason that a human would refuse to follow it. As such, I think it's logical to be suspicious of someone who opposes.
Fair point and oversight on my behalf. I rescind my first point.

As for the second, I then propose the following. I shall be the last player to abide. If
no overall claim will be achieved, I still find that the plan will be manipulable.

Well there's no way in gatlinburg that I'm posting one tomorrow so ...

The last time I said something that triggered an event, I spoke in smilies for two days. And you want me to do what now?

a2thezebra wrote:What do you feel betrayed or something? You think I just suspect everyone who suspects me and give free passes to everyone who doesn't? Sorry.

Still waiting on actual reasoning on that one. Evidence? You think I'm team mates with the people that I chased after before anyone else really did?

a2thezebra wrote:It's not going to be between me and LC by the way, that's some serious bullshit.

Why is LC green?

a2thezebra wrote:JaggedJimmyJay
Long Con
Ricochet
Spacedaisy
Silverwolf
Glorfindel
G-Man
S~V~S
bea
Polo
Matt
Marmot
DrWilgy
Epignosis
SokothQultuq
juliets
Scotty
Black Rock
DFaraday
Drum Beats
ObscureAllure
LoRab
sig
Vompatti

Wtf? Why? I have called out most of the names around me as suspected mafia, I've been screaming LoRab for days before anyone else, and I just came out and said I think your civvie?

DrWilgy wrote:What do you think mafia really don't go into games with strats? Yalls strat is clearly to defend one another, then splash in some WIFOM and voila! A perfect baddie recipe!

"We cant be baddies because we defend each pther so blatantly"

Isn't it interesting that the claim isn't we aren't bad instead of we aren't on the same team?

Firstly, I don't think I've ever said that in a defense in any mafia game ever. Why would anyone say that? You accused me of being a baddie, I responded I'm not a baddie. (Still waiting on you to answer why you chose that specific baddie btw) and 2) technically If she's a townie and I think she is, then we are on the same team DERP

I'm sorry I'm a posting maniac. Trying to communicate with smilies for two days was brutal. I'll shut up now. Lol

3J I dunno if I trust you yet sorry. Lol. Although I'm leaning towards it, I don't know that it's enough to make that leap. The only two people I'm sure aren't mafia are Epi and Silver (for reasons I've already stated.) I think DB, Zebra, SD and possibly you are townies, but not enough to fight for it. I'd bet money that LoRab and LC are cylon mafia. I think sig or Rico probably. Dunno. You should ISO LC since you already did Lorab

Silverwolf wrote:BTW, I agree with lynching Lorab tomorrow followed by Long Con after that.

Why LC?

How has this man been a top suspect since day one and he's not lunched yet. Lol

Well why not just say mafia or cylon I guess

Silverwolf wrote:Nope, She was giving a hypothetical scenario and I've said things like that as town before. "If I was mafia, you think I'd be so dumb as to.......whatever it it." If you look at motivation, there's things Mafia would not do if they were smart. Openly defending each other like that is definitely one of them. There's a lot more subtle ways to protect a scumbuddy than that. And OA was instrumental in the nutella lynch and calling out Lorab as a BTSC partner. I think you are barking up the wrong tree.

what she said

And wiggly why did you specifically pick that cylon of all of the options to accuse me of? Why not just say mafia? I find that interesting.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Long Con wrote:What is your impression of his action, and subsequent posts?
I think it's possible that he made a mistake. If he is a baddie then that vote was absolutely the dumbest thing he's ever done. We can WIFOM around the discussion all day, but I am not utterly perturbed beyond belief as some other players to include yourself seem to be. The Nerolunar wagon itself is a suspicious thing I agree, but I think it would be foolish to focus squarely upon the sealing vote while other players made that vote possible in the first place.

My concern with the vote is the apparent logical discrepancy I expressed in that post (essentially echoing Daisy's own point). I'll await MM's response before I judge that further.

I don't think his posts outside that discrepancy are especially alarming though. He broke a tie and a civilian was lynched. That happens all the time in Mafia, and anyone is capable of doing it regardless of alignment.

You talking about me? Look, I could only talk in smiley and posted a vote for someone who had almost no suspicion. I guessed a few would bandwagon, but never would have guess that influx would come to be able to actually surpass LoRab. If you want to come at me for that, go for it. I pulled a bait and switch, yes, but I honestly didn't think that many sharks would appear in the water.

For the record, my mother had me vaccinated to I'm immune to everything. Come at me bro.

DrWilgy wrote:
ObscureAllure wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:Sometimes silencing a common civ read can save them from NK and bring other players out of lurking. Perhaps forcing activity from others was the intention. Speaking of which, I'm pretty sure you are bad. ISO incoming.
If you think you're going to head down this road, I suggest you bring an army, pops. There are a couple of players that I'll see lynched over my dead body and she's one of them. Emotional or not, I'd bet my life that that girl flies the civilian flag.
So are you Cavil and shes one of your btsc buddies? Pr is it the other way around?

HA! Not even remotely. (And wtf, if I was do you think I'd slip and out myself right there? lol) I don't know for sure whether or not she's a human or civilian. But, I highly doubt she's a mafia. If she was, her mafia team would have either A) reigned her in with her outbursts or B) thrown her under the buss to gain civvie cred while she was silenced. The fact that neither has happened an she is still very much playing a hugely emotional game says to me there's no way she's a mafia. She's a civvie.

Why do you suddenly think she's a mafia out of the blue? Hmm?

Linki: golden already answered. Claiming cylon negates their votes. So The person with the most votes would simply no longer exist as an option which would roll it down the the next most.

Long Con wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'm a boneheaded idiot when I'm civilian and I talk out of my ass when I'm mafia.
Does this apply to today's lynch?

What are your thoughts on what happened today, LC?

LoRab has always been good at softly calling out a team mate. I felt that's what she did with Bea. And Bea jumped on the Nero train super quick fast.

SD I trust you, what do you think? What did you think about the large group that jumped to follow the nero vote?

Possibly Polo, Rico or SVS.

Epignosis wrote:Lorab tomorrow. No questions.

This.

And then I think that Sig, Long Con, Juliet and Bea are the most likely mafia at this point.

DrWilgy wrote:Sometimes silencing a common civ read can save them from NK and bring other players out of lurking. Perhaps forcing activity from others was the intention. Speaking of which, I'm pretty sure you are bad. ISO incoming.

If you think you're going to head down this road, I suggest you bring an army, pops. There are a couple of players that I'll see lynched over my dead body and she's one of them. Emotional or not, I'd bet my life that that girl flies the civilian flag.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Silverwolf better not be killed tonight (if she's human). Give her a chance at least to say something in a mafia game here.

If She's a mafia they wouldn't kill her?!?! - LOL!

Silver - breathe. No one knows who anyone else is. Therefore, Lunar didn't know who you are. If he did chose you, it's his right to. And as upset as you were, he might have done it to give you a break and relax. Don't take something as a personal attack that you don't know is one.

Golden wrote:I really mean it when I say that there is no info to be gained by implication in my end of phase posts. I am not going to give any game info away by implication in those posts. If there is info to be had, it will be made clear in the large text at the bottom.

Sowwy

So I'm just going to come right out and say it. I knew that at least one person would follow me in an effort to save LoRab (prior to her namedropping being a cylon.) Since Nero had very little pitted against him, I figured it was a safe townie vote and only one or two would follow me. I figured it would be a good place to start tomorrow since today pretty much loooked great and LoRab had the vote. I didn't expect her to cylon drop or the crazy bandwagon that followed against Nero. Wow. Just wow. I'm in shock. To everyone who followed me to vote for Nero.... why? Seriously.... Why?

Also, go back and re-read the end of day post. I think LoRab DID have the majority vote.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Vote Nerolunar

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
ObscureAllure wrote:
Long Con wrote:I'd still prefer Lorab to have the most votes.

Didn't you vote for Nerolunar though?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
ObscureAllure wrote:
Long Con wrote:I'd still prefer Lorab to have the most votes.

Didn't you vote for Nerolunar though?

Long Con wrote:I'd still prefer Lorab to have the most votes.

DrumBeats wrote:Pros of Lorab:
-We would know for sure if Lorab is a cylon.

DrumBeats wrote:So basically right now it comes down to who would we rather have in front, Nero or Lorab.

Pros of Nero ahead:
-Human!Lorab would not die

Pros of Lorab:
-We would know for sure if Lorab is a cylon.

I'm personally leaning more towards putting Nero ahead. Would've preferred Glorfindel or Bea, but sadly that's not a choice.

Vote: Nerolunar

Long Con wrote:Maybe if, say, Nerolunar would say it.

Polo wrote:I am a Cylon, but actually I'm not a Cylon at all.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:A human has nothing to lose by saying this. A Cylon has a lynch to lose by saying this today.

I propose that every player state "I am a Cylon" at this moment.

S~V~S wrote:Linki @ OA, why the frownie? I have no reason to believe any of the people voting LoRab are bad, based on their thread up to this point. I got a ping off Rico day one,but then he brought his Rico game to the table.

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