The Syndicate

I would be completely satisfied with starting a town core of JJJ, Long Con, and Epignosis. If you guys want to take the risk together. Long con, when did you evolve from reading Jay as mafia to civ? Early D2 you were voting/suspicious of him so this was a quick flip After I accused him of being a W...

But abigail sophia is F R O Z E N. She is not sure what to do under all this suspicion and has nothing to say. She doesn't even have a teammate in her family that she can bounce ideas off. These are my thoughts. I don't know if they are good ones. But abigail sophia is F R O Z E N. She is not sure ...

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 11:22 pm I would be completely satisfied with starting a town core of JJJ, Long Con, and Epignosis. If you guys want to take the risk together.

Long con, when did you evolve from reading Jay as mafia to civ? Early D2 you were voting/suspicious of him so this was a quick flip

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 11:34 am Four Epi-fam players and not one of them Wolf? Possible, but I don't believe in it.

Would a mafia LC do this if Epi was his teammate?

@TonyStarkPrime where do you plan to vote today?

Clearing*

I guess I could clean him too, but I’d prefer not to

I’m comfortable cleaning TSP:

I think it’s clear he figured out who Moto was fairly quick and defended them in game. He could be third party, which would suck since he wouldn’t have a vested interest in town winning, but it’s too late to do anything about that

Okay I’m doing an iso read, I likely won’t be pulling quote since doing this from mobile. Staring with living players, maybe I’ll do another NKA after of Wilgy and scotty. Falcon: He’s been pretty consistent since D2 regarding his Jay read and it evolved into a more solid mafia read which he then c...

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 4:55 pm Epi and Long Con have had an unusual relationship in this game.

How so

Okay I’m doing an iso read, I likely won’t be pulling quote since doing this from mobile. Staring with living players, maybe I’ll do another NKA after of Wilgy and scotty. Falcon: He’s been pretty consistent since D2 regarding his Jay read and it evolved into a more solid mafia read which he then ch...

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 4:37 pm You’re more confident than I am, sig. I may follow your lead today.

Okay, but if we loose it’s your fault for listening to me, not my fault for leading us astray

Also one thing to note, which I wasn’t going to bring up this soon, but the convo is dead so I will, if we flip mafia today we need to ALSO hit mafia tomorrow phase or we loose.

So a bussing strategy isn’t out of the question, that adds an extra layer of toughness.

Put another way: this game has been characterized by players contributing to the discussion predominantly when they’re under pressure — when they have something to answer for. Other than that it’s emotional neutrality or absence. That applies strongly to LoRab and Epi. It applied to our previous mi...

@JaggedJimmyJay walk me through the epi evolution again? You went from town, to convinced he was mafia, to town and fine with lorab, to thinking he’s mafia again? It’s just uncertainty. I don’t know. There’s a pretty easy argument available to call every candidate in the [LoRab, Epi, falcon, LC] gr...

@JaggedJimmyJay walk me through the epi evolution again?

You went from town, to convinced he was mafia, to town and fine with lorab, to thinking he’s mafia again?

And I’m practicing what I’m preaching here by reevaluating my Jay read so I’m allowed to say that

@LoRab if you had to choose just two suspects to be the mafia team, who would they be? At this exact moment? Falcon and epi. But I’m not locked into either of those thoughts. LC and Sig are my next tier. And I don’t think you are bad, other than in my most tinfoil-y moments. And tsp’s Indy claim, I...

LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 3:23 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 2:51 pm I’m also not a huge fan of the LC/lorab exchange
Why?

it seems fake to me

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 4:17 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 4:04 pm sig being mafia would certainly explain why this game has been so miserable. I’d need someone to lay out a theory/case.
Mean

And even more mean is TS that doesn’t read apple emojis

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 4:04 pm sig being mafia would certainly explain why this game has been so miserable. I’d need someone to lay out a theory/case.

Mean

I’m also not a huge fan of the LC/lorab exchange

And I am quickly losing motivation to defend myself. Because you are all clearly determined to lynch me. And I know I’m not bad. And I know that I’m unlikely to convince you all of that. So, I’ll ask you 2 questions: If I was off the table for this lynch, for whom would you be voting? And When you ...

Oh never mind Jay is still on epi maybe he’s mafia with lorab

Yea the more I think about Jay today the more I think he’s towny, there’s still some head scratchers but unless Epi and Jay are mafia, Jay created the wagon on epi for lolz, then had to defuse it, I don’t see him being mafia. For arguments sake we could say he created the Epi wagon, but epi push bac...

I’m skim caught up and wow some whiplash here from epi to not epi. First thing first I did think about it and I still don’t see a world in which epi is mafia. Could he have tricked me? Sure, but it’s doubtful. I won’t be voting Jay today unless it’s an agreed consensus it feels like a waste of a vot...

If Tony is mafia, I lose. If sig is mafia, I lose. Four others with 2-3 mafia in them. Epignosis, Long Con, LoRab, falcon45ca I'll revisit the association dynamics in this smaller set and see what is most viable. And then sig will vote me out with his pecs glistening, and the game will end. XD :omg...

However, my view on Jay hasn’t changed his willingness to switch from lorab/falcon to Simon is a red flag especially given his other theory which we were keeping quite but no point now. I quite literally had no clue what do with my vote. Everyone felt like a guess. Ask yourself if you'd have a clue...

I also totally forgot about TSP in the above.

Do we think we have two independents? If not he has to be mafia right?

I could also see him being one to do a gambit with Wilgy

It’s pretty late here,so don’t expect much from me tonight. I think I need to totally reevaluate this game. Ooooor I’m 100% right and can brag post game. Tin foil: LC is Mafia High chance either lorab or Falcon are mafia but I agree both aren’t. Mafia in either Jay or epi, but I highly doubt epi. Ep...

Having said that I’m terrible at reading LC and getting a wee bit paranoid. Falcon or lorab seems to be the popular decision. The fact the Falcon wagon evaporated but more of a push was needed to remove lorab makes her look worse on the surface level. I think Moto kill wasn’t aligned to Jay, as in h...

Is there a chance lc/Jay are the mafia?

Like I know it was thrown out there but the fact both are alive is odd

If epi is mafia we’re cooked and it may or may not be sigs fault

Things aren’t looking great, granted I didn’t pop up last phase in time so oops, BUT I don’t like how that Simon vote went down mafia definitely went along with it

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:52 pm
sig wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:08 pm I’m not sure if I like how closely aligned my ideas are with falcon or not this game
I feel tied up in a double-not when I read this.

Thanks.

I’m not sure if I like how closely aligned my ideas are with falcon or not this game

If we believe TSP claim that would knock one off, I guess the question is do we believe it?

Falcon like I said seems to be more within his civ meta
Lorab hasn’t raised any red flags so far and is a town lean.

So I guess I’m at Simon, LC and Jay for my three?

@Epignosis thoughts on current mafia team/make up?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:02 pm No end time on this poll, but I believe it ends in just a hair under four hours.

10 pm I believe so yea

I should be able to be popping in and out for the rest of the phase. Still at work (ew even though 6pm) but I’ll be around ish. I see my Jay vote didn’t go anywhere, which sucks. I’m still pretty sure he’s mafia, buuuuuut I’ll table it until we get closer to end game then y’all will listen to me :P ...

@Epignosis @Long Con

Can you both give me your thoughts on my thoughts regarding Jay?

@Simon could you give me a read list? Just what do you think each players alignment is and why

And? Maybe you killed him so you could use this exact argument, which wait you’re doing right now to try and defend yourself. See how that works? At this point it’s literally 50/50 if you killed him, add in the scotty kill who did heavily suspect you and the night kills make a lot of sense if you’r...

I’m also really not a fan of Jay going from saying I’m locked town, to trying to set up a future vote off, using the night kill as a reason. This screams mafia. How so? You might ask. Well simple, Jay is leading the thread right now, he needs to not only set up votes, but also give himself cover wh...

Okay I need other people to weight in on my Jay thoughts since we’re just gonna keep going around and around I’m pretty sure

Yea I’m not really a fan of anyone on the falcon wagon. Lorab is probably the only solid read one the three. I think ONLY focusing on the Wilgy flip and mech is very very dangerous and scummy in fact the more I think about it the less I like people making those cases. It just seems like a really ea...

I’m also really not a fan of Jay going from saying I’m locked town, to trying to set up a future vote off, using the night kill as a reason. This screams mafia. How so? You might ask. Well simple, Jay is leading the thread right now, he needs to not only set up votes, but also give himself cover whe...

Yea I’m not really a fan of anyone on the falcon wagon. Lorab is probably the only solid read one the three. I think ONLY focusing on the Wilgy flip and mech is very very dangerous and scummy in fact the more I think about it the less I like people making those cases. It just seems like a really eas...

gonna state the obvious and say if Jay is a wolf and is leading the game in posts by such a huge amount and then made a crazy gambit NK just to attempt to clear himself that’s very good play and far better than people typically think of his wolf range and I can’t be too upset about losing to it I c...

I don’t really see the reason behind the Falcon vote, but i guess we could say Wilgy death hints at that?

I’ll probably do an NKA, but I also remember Wilgy going after Jay soooo that’s an area to look.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:34 pm But lets be real if Jay is town and wolves had the opportunity to get that flip and passed it up, either they’re silly or they had info or they just weren’t around

Which like also clears me along with all the other things that clear me

I’m really leaning more and more towards him being mafia.

Who's most likely to miss this critical factor and make a bad mechanical kill? falcon - maybe I guess, he's only kinda here LoRab - could be, has missed a ton motobot - could be, new to mechanical problems like this Simon - could be, new to mechanical problems like this sig - maybe I guess, he's on...

Wilgy I’m a bit torn about this vote, I think the points against him are strong and I’m not going to vote for Lorab. That would leave JJJ or a useless vote. While I did and honestly still do have some suspicion on Jay, he is being very active in a towny way right now and I do think hes solving very...

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