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by Long Con
Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:30 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:26 pm @TonyStarkPrime I will lock this vote today if you cannot be here tomorrow. I’d only change if forced by self-preservation.
Yeah, I'm there as well, if we need early cohesion, then count on my Epi vote.
by Long Con
Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:29 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

@Long Con do you have an initial take on my view of Epignosis? Could be him and falc. I'll have to read him over with your words in mind. Is there ever a world for you where Jay is Maf? What's your read on his slot right now? I fully believe Jay is Town, and I hope if I'm wrong that everyone else c...
by Long Con
Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:26 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

I'm very likely to vote falcon. Why not? falcon Why did you feel the need to say this? I ask since you've had no issue voting for me in previous RDs, but you're acting here as tho it's a new idea to you Then the "why not?" bit makes it seem as tho it's a carefree, afterthought kinda vote....
by Long Con
Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:24 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

[VOTE: epignosis] aubergine I agree this should be a hit.
by Long Con
Sat Mar 30, 2024 9:55 am
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 9:38 am Possibly cause they look to the father for reads, and he subtly stops it some amount of the time
Any other case studies besides this one to back it up?
by Long Con
Sat Mar 30, 2024 1:01 am
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

Epi has not given a single shit who has been eliminated any day phase. Look at his posts. He does not care. He has flirted with plenty votes himself on various candidates to be eliminated (at least including both Abigails, Simon, LoRab, and myself). The standout frequent wagons that he never contri...
by Long Con
Fri Mar 29, 2024 11:38 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 11:37 pm LoRab is only mafia if she is with Long Con. While it's not conclusive, I think their interactions suggest otherwise. Maybe we just clear LoRab here too.

That would be unexpected and very welcome.
Does a Wolf JJJ try so hard to secure clears? Not in my estimation.
by Long Con
Fri Mar 29, 2024 11:27 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

I agree that she doesn't pair well with the top suspects.
by Long Con
Fri Mar 29, 2024 11:26 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 11:13 pm @Long Con do you have an initial take on my view of Epignosis?
Could be him and falc. I'll have to read him over with your words in mind.
by Long Con
Fri Mar 29, 2024 11:08 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

I also totally forgot about TSP in the above. Do we think we have two independents? If not he has to be mafia right? I could also see him being one to do a gambit with Wilgy I don't believe he is independent. I think he was trying to draw a kill instead of Kagemusha. If he is independent, then what...
by Long Con
Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:46 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:40 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:39 pm I'm very likely to vote falcon.
I am in a similar place, if only for Wilgy's sake. Let me know if you agree with my assessment that he is a bad fit with LoRab.
I am willing to accept it.
by Long Con
Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:40 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

Why not? [VOTE: falcon] aubergine
by Long Con
Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:39 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

I'm very likely to vote falcon.
by Long Con
Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:25 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

Having any reasonable reason to believe someone is Town is enough to put them out of the running at this point of course. Tony being the most alert to the rules and the Shingen everything disqualifies him from being eliminated ever, due to the blunderkill. We have all agreed sig = Town from the get-...
by Long Con
Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:22 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

If Tony is mafia, I lose. If sig is mafia, I lose. Four others with 2-3 mafia in them. Epignosis, Long Con, LoRab, falcon45ca I'll revisit the association dynamics in this smaller set and see what is most viable. And then sig will vote me out with his pecs glistening, and the game will end. XD Ok, ...
by Long Con
Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:21 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

Did Epi slay his final child?

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by Long Con
Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:19 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

7 players, yeet a Wolf, 4-2. kill 2 Town, 2-2 parity. Three wolves, it's done now.
by Long Con
Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:15 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

Seven players, homie. Two mafia guaranteed.
by Long Con
Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:12 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

Not a surprise after the small but significant defense he gave of Abigail Sophia.
by Long Con
Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:56 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

I hope he's bad, and that it exonerates falcon.
by Long Con
Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:55 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:54 pm I would hope.
If not, we can have a jolly LOL together as the Town goes down.
by Long Con
Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:55 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

LOL not that it made a difference. Now it's 4-2-2.
by Long Con
Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:54 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

I'll move back to Simon though, because this level of participation will become a complication as the herd is thinned. [VOTE: Simon] aubergine
by Long Con
Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:53 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

I would hope that Shingen would take care of himself a little better, so I can handle Simon or Lorab as "safe".
by Long Con
Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:52 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

At least Lorab voted.
by Long Con
Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:52 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

Simon and Lorab both are not here to say anything.
by Long Con
Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:51 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

Not me. I'm in my prime.
by Long Con
Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:42 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

Maybe no one will die.
by Long Con
Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:16 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

Washed? In what context?
by Long Con
Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:02 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

Why did you have to move off Simon? See the gif above. I am just shaky about voting alongside falcon and LoRab and where's another wagon on someone in my POE pool featuring two people I have an easier time trusting. I'm open to the Simon option. I might swap again. I dunno. I said before that every...
by Long Con
Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:48 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

Why did you have to move off Simon?
by Long Con
Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:39 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

I wasn't satisfied with falcon's responses to me, but I wanted to see what would happen if I went along and voted Simon. Surprised to see the falcon wagon just dissipate entirely. I suspect falcon more than Simon.
by Long Con
Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:38 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

I'm still fine with falcon. [VOTE: falcon] aubergine
by Long Con
Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:32 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 7:31 pm
Long Con wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:52 pm
sig wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:08 pm I’m not sure if I like how closely aligned my ideas are with falcon or not this game
I feel tied up in a double-not when I read this.
you’re the problem voter here
How can I become the Solution Voter?
by Long Con
Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:52 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

sig wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:08 pm I’m not sure if I like how closely aligned my ideas are with falcon or not this game
I feel tied up in a double-not when I read this.
by Long Con
Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:02 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

No end time on this poll, but I believe it ends in just a hair under four hours.
by Long Con
Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:05 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

Simon looks the worse of the two Epi-spawn.

[VOTE: simon] aubergine
by Long Con
Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:54 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

It makes sense then to you that I kill Scotty for TR me, and then I kill Wilgy for SR me...why don't I just kill Wilgy N1? He was sus of me D1 IIRC It makes sense to me that Wolves think different thoughts and come to different decisions as the game evolves. I do not agree with trying to frame thes...
by Long Con
Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:40 am
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

Looking over motobot's ISO, I think his early vote is Towny, and I think his JJJ progression across the whole Day is Towny. The changes in his opinion seem uncontrived.
by Long Con
Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:47 am
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

Yea I’m not really a fan of anyone on the falcon wagon. Lorab is probably the only solid read one the three. I think ONLY focusing on the Wilgy flip and mech is very very dangerous and scummy in fact the more I think about it the less I like people making those cases. It just seems like a really ea...
by Long Con
Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:35 am
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

I still think falcon is a hit, because of the blunderkill on Wilgy. I think falcon's focus on the game has been more "light touch" than "deep analysis", and therefore fits the bill on that one. Not saying falcon couldn't be quite aware of slightly more complex factors, but not th...
by Long Con
Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:27 am
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

While "I did that kill just so I could say why it wasn't me" is not as common as many sleuths would hope... "Let's kill that guy because it implicates someone easily" IS a common thing. What did you have in mind when you posted this? Someone killing Scotty to implicate you.
by Long Con
Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:01 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

While "I did that kill just so I could say why it wasn't me" is not as common as many sleuths would hope... "Let's kill that guy because it implicates someone easily" IS a common thing.
by Long Con
Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:59 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

I'd appreciate if anyone else could take a dedicated look at both motobot and Simon. I read both as civilians, but I acknowledge that I don't really have a great baseline for what either is supposed to look like as civilians (or for players that young in general). I will need some help if either of...
by Long Con
Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:37 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

Scotty's ISO is very positive toward JJJ. Until it does a slow nosedive that ends at a JJJ scumlean. His arguments against Jay's Townness might have been too accurate, for which he was killed. Give it a read. Last quarter especially. I'm not giving up my townread, but Scotty was starting to get more...
by Long Con
Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:32 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

We cannot accept any Shingen claims. It doesn't work. All Shingen claims are fake.
by Long Con
Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:19 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

@Epignosis @Long Con Can you both give me your thoughts on my thoughts regarding Jay? @Simon could you give me a read list? Just what do you think each players alignment is and why I don't agree with the WIFOM angle, but I think I said that in my last post, basically. It's not worth it to Jay to ma...
by Long Con
Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:08 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

Yea I’m not really a fan of anyone on the falcon wagon. Lorab is probably the only solid read one the three. I think ONLY focusing on the Wilgy flip and mech is very very dangerous and scummy in fact the more I think about it the less I like people making those cases. It just seems like a really ea...
by Long Con
Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:41 am
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

How then should we clear people?
by Long Con
Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:42 pm
Forum: The Heist
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 9169

Re: Kagemusha (D3)

And that's also good night from me.

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