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by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:07 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

Oh, starting.

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by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:06 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

sig wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:05 pm Well okay confession time, I’ve sprinkled it throughout this phase, so if you look you could probably find it, buuuuut I’m an odd night gun smith starting night 3 and I have Epi
What'd you do on Night 1
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:03 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D2)

Some annoying WIFOM to decorate your guest bathroom: I’m not mafia because absolutely nobody on this roster makes sense as my mafia teammate unless you think it’s exactly sig and LoRab with me. I'm sitting in my bunker listening to radio waves with a tin hat thinking Falc/Jay is a fine combo. The t...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:03 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D1)

I'm going to be straight: I have no clue about this game. My reads do come from my brain, but they feel barely better than arbitrary. I am not even close to finding comfortable footing or knowing what I am doing in this thread. While that is attributable to some degree to the state of the thread it...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:01 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

LoRab wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:59 pm It’s honestly vibe and tone.
Thanks.

I know that isn't much, but sometimes there isn't much else to say. Intuition doesn't provide a big wall post.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:58 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

Paranoia is probably the right way to be when a game is hanging in the balance with zero mafia dead.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:57 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

But then again lorab is very active, mafia could survive one player being flipped right? Would it make sense for her to come guns a blazing There's more reason for her to have a sense of urgency as civilian than as mafia. I don't know how much of a difference that makes. Yea that’s what I’m saying....
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:56 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

Eh, my issues are with her answers (no offense lorab :p) For example on the LC question she basically says nothing? I get the Meta side, but D4 with lots of content I need more. Pair that with her accusing me of not reading the thread and really only focusing on the two people who are active and no...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:54 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

sig wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:53 pm But then again lorab is very active, mafia could survive one player being flipped right? Would it make sense for her to come guns a blazing
There's more reason for her to have a sense of urgency as civilian than as mafia. I don't know how much of a difference that makes.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:50 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

I'd rather eliminate Epignosis than falcon, I think. I am more confident that he'd flip mafia, even if only slightly.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:50 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

This theory does all go out the window if lorab is town, which is the issue right now. When I ask my soul "is LoRab mafia?" it is telling me no. I know there's a case for her to be mafia, but that applies to nearly everyone including me. At a certain point "do I believe her?" su...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:43 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

First guess right this instant is Epi/Long Con. They made this wagon happened and vanished. I know it's Easter, but I have to assess the game in front of me. Meh I probably still like falcon/Epi more. falcon's gripes today are wack. I’d be shocked if long con wasn’t mafia That's a more confident re...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:41 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

Pros of voting out falcon -- if he flips mafia, it basically confirms Epi as the teammate in my eyes. I wouldn't be quite as confident in reverse. Pros of voting out Epignosis -- if he flips mafia, the more difficult elimination of the two is taken care of first. If either flips town, the game is ov...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:30 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:21 pm First guess right this instant is Epi/Long Con.

They made this wagon happened and vanished. I know it's Easter, but I have to assess the game in front of me.
Meh I probably still like falcon/Epi more. falcon's gripes today are wack.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:23 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

If I am a giant doofus and LoRab does flip mafia, that would also be fitting. Stay your pitchforks and try to exist in my head for a moment. My biggest issue is she’s more trying to not get voted off vs trying to hunt mafia in my mind. Having said that the other mafia member has to be on her, unles...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:21 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

First guess right this instant is Epi/Long Con.

They made this wagon happened and vanished. I know it's Easter, but I have to assess the game in front of me.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:21 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

Seriously, though. Is there anything I could have responded to that which would convince anyone that by lynching me they are handing the game to the baddies? Because, y’all are. And I’m exhausted (and still not fully healthy), and I’m not going to bother. There’s no way civvies will win if we don’t...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:20 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

sig wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:19 pm Do we think the vote on falcon is a distancing attempt?
I don't
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:09 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

If I am a giant doofus and LoRab does flip mafia, that would also be fitting. Stay your pitchforks and try to exist in my head for a moment.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:08 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:05 pm Both mafia are currently voting LoRab.

Two among Epi, falcon, and Long Con.
Not bottom paging myself. Nope.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:08 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

Probably too late. Unfortunate, but fitting for whatever this game has been.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:05 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

Both mafia are currently voting LoRab.

Two among Epi, falcon, and Long Con.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:49 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

Fine. Your consistent sharing of ideas as they come to your head, and being willing to be wrong, are both civ qualities. Your frequency of shorter posts throughout day cycles makes it unlikely that you are also posting in ptsd. I wouldn’t really be logical that you’d NK Wilgy, only to make the poin...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:39 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

@LoRab there would be value in answering falcon’s question about specific examples to town read me.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:27 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

I absolutely vote null reads @falcon45ca. I have done in this and many other games. I look for civilians and null reads don’t meet the standard. I have also said you have had town moments repeatedly this game. Treating it like I have tunneled you is just demonstrably untrue. You absolutely have sai...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:22 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

It’s incredibly easy to envision mafia agendas aimed at making LoRab the winning play.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:21 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

LoRab is a patsy. I don’t know exactly who is the perpetrator, but I’m not voting for her.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:16 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

I don’t feel like falcon has read my posts.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:14 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

I absolutely vote null reads @falcon45ca. I have done in this and many other games. I look for civilians and null reads don’t meet the standard.

I have also said you have had town moments repeatedly this game. Treating it like I have tunneled you is just demonstrably untrue.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:11 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

That’s because my teammates are other civs who have no other information and are lost. Could you describe what it is about me that you find trustworthy? Because your thoughts have been civ aligned as I red them, and tone. I'd like to hear some specifics, cuz this is a boiler plate read I would appr...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:08 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

Player - are they suspicious? - would I vote? falcon45ca - no - yes Epignosis - no - no Princess Abigail - yes - yes DrWilgy - no - no LoRab - no - yes Scotty - no - no TonyStarkPrime - kinda? - eh? Long Con - no - no sig - no - no Abigail Sophia - no - yes motobot - no - no Simon - yes - yes Perha...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:56 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

Perhaps it's meaningful that falcon is the only player who has suspected me and never reconsidered. You’re saying he’s right and you’re mafia? :p I dunno what I'm saying. :smile: If the mafia killed Scotty and Wilgy in part to make me look like a dope, perhaps he is sticking to the plan even as it ...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:55 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

LoRab wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:52 pm That’s because my teammates are other civs who have no other information and are lost.
Could you describe what it is about me that you find trustworthy?
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:55 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

Perhaps it's meaningful that falcon is the only player who has suspected me and never reconsidered.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:52 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

Unless both players in the tie are mafia, in which case the game is locked down. But that's a pipe dream.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:52 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

Reminder that a tie won't cut it -- mafia control them. It shouldn't happen with 7 players, but yanno.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:50 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

It may be a good idea for me to do the same just to align my turbulent thoughts, but only briefly. There is little time left, and Easter may force our hand. We know Epignosis is celebrating that too.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:49 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

Long Con bussing LoRab is a possibility. It just doesn't strike me as necessary on his part. Perhaps, since he wanted falcon first and was diverted by Tony's "no". It still feels kind of wrong to me.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:48 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

If LoRab is mafia, I am struggling to find a good teammate right now. I don't think Epi makes sense unless he abandoned his old aversion to bussing. He can win the game today if he wants to, so pursuing his teammate would be goofy. Long Con is theoretically plausible, but he is also the origin of th...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:45 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

If Epi is mafia then falcon is probably still the most viable teammate. His votes have been uninvested, and that's as true as ever right now.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:43 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

You’re either wrong or you re lying. Either way, I’m civ. Please, show me a game where players on this forum didn’t suspect me for that. Because, that is not alignment indicative. And I just clarified my thoughts on Indy views. Meanwhile, since I have nothing to lose now,. And in case there’s some ...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:36 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

You’re either wrong or you re lying. Either way, I’m civ. Please, show me a game where players on this forum didn’t suspect me for that. Because, that is not alignment indicative. And I just clarified my thoughts on Indy views. Meanwhile, since I have nothing to lose now,. And in case there’s some ...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:34 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

Epignosis wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:17 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:22 pm @falcon45ca I can’t get Epi to talk about you, so he’s either teamed with you or trying to make it look that way. If it’s the latter, only you can drive the wedge.
All right. This is a civilian JJJ. Final answer.
I also find this kind of hard to believe.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:33 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

Epignosis wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:39 am I think Lorab is indeed mafia. The more I think on the Simon (lack of) exchange, the more I think that's a slam dunk.
Does anyone here feel like anything is a slam dunk?
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:30 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

It all makes sense to me. Basically, tsp is not my lynch priority. We don’t have luxury to lynch anyone who isn’t mafia. He’s not the priority. And so he’s on the back burner. Not trusting him doesn’t mean wanting to lynch him right now. We need to get a baddie. I don’t think he is a baddie, within...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:30 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

You’re either wrong or you re lying. Either way, I’m civ. Please, show me a game where players on this forum didn’t suspect me for that. Because, that is not alignment indicative. And I just clarified my thoughts on Indy views. Meanwhile, since I have nothing to lose now,. And in case there’s some ...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:21 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

claiming she believed TSP third party claim. This runs contradictory to her D1 view on independent thought so that’s a ping. good point It’s a different point in the game. I don’t trust him in the game , but we do not have the luxury of not focusing on mafia. Or focusing on not mafia. Also, individ...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:10 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

Sorry gang. I should be less abrasive.

The game is driving me absolutely batshit, and it is bleeding into my playing personality. I will be kinder.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:08 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Kagemusha (ENDGAME)
Replies: 1681
Views: 16164

Re: Kagemusha (D4)

sig wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:05 pmclaiming she believed TSP third party claim. This runs contradictory to her D1 view on independent thought so that’s a ping.
good point

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