The Syndicate

Bubbles wrote:wow i didnt expect to get a response so quick! no im not attempted to save glorfindel (i assume thats where you guys are going?) and i HAVE been on the thread the last week just not posting, i have been busy, trying to not be totally absent from the thread. hope that explains it. i doubt it will but oh well

S~V~S wrote:

Golden wrote:

Golden wrote:I'd be willing to vote bubbles. It would actually be a pretty good test... if she is bad, and her team isn't gone, I think I've been wrong about glorfindel all along. If she isn't bad, then what we are losing is someone who has really been too busy to play in this game and so isn't really playing.

How do you feel about this, SVS?

I already voted. I would ask everyone else. I will say that that was the baddiest vote I have seen in, well, rather recently actually, but still it was pretty bad.

S~V~S wrote:*Teammate sends PM to Bubbles, "you have to get in here & vote, hurry up!!"*

They should have said to make it convincing.

Dom wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Dom wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Dom wrote:I'd like to hear actual thoughts from Matt, Enrique, and Dharmahelper too.

Thoughts on what.

Suspects.
Literally anything but complaining.

Golden wrote:

Dom wrote:Can I just say the amount of role claiming in this game is getting tiresome?

I'm not role claiming cop. But I will continue to reject false logic for why I can't be.

Come on
Golden, that's some BS.

MovingPictures07 wrote:And for the record, I think you're a wonderful and a very nice person, Glorf, and it's been great to get to know you. But I think you're not a townie this game.

This is how I feel.

Turnip Head wrote:That's a touch unfair MP. Glorfindel does seem to be suspecting Typh.

But why tho?
I've been asking for days.

Have you read my posts

Yeah. I asked yo uwho yo uwanted to vote for and you avoided the question with humor.


So, I'm just looking for your input.

Golden wrote:

Dom wrote:Golden, that's some BS.

Sorry, Dom, but its not. If you think I've made any specific role hint, then you are reading into something wrong. For instance, I could see how you might think I was the cop who needs Freeze dead, but I had absolutely no intention of hinting at being that.

Dom wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Dom wrote:I'd like to hear actual thoughts from Matt, Enrique, and Dharmahelper too.

Thoughts on what.

Suspects.
Literally anything but complaining.

Golden wrote:

Dom wrote:Can I just say the amount of role claiming in this game is getting tiresome?

I'm not role claiming cop. But I will continue to reject false logic for why I can't be.

Come on
Golden, that's some BS.

MovingPictures07 wrote:And for the record, I think you're a wonderful and a very nice person, Glorf, and it's been great to get to know you. But I think you're not a townie this game.

This is how I feel.

Turnip Head wrote:That's a touch unfair MP. Glorfindel does seem to be suspecting Typh.

But why tho?
I've been asking for days.

Golden wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Wild theory time:

Is it possible that Golden wants to expose Batman because he's been targeted by a hallucinogen by Scarecrow, and now he needs Batman dead to win?

No.

I need Mac dead to win. I already said that ages ago, when Mac was actually in the firing line. I'm fine with not winning if thats how it pans out, though, I'd rather keep useful civs alive, and I'm pinning my hopies on nailing the Scarecrow.

Dom wrote:I'd like to hear actual thoughts from Matt, Enrique, and Dharmahelper too.

Matt wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:As frustrating as it was to basically be told I am an affliction I don't like that Sorsha was NKed.

Seeing as how you and Sorsha seemed to have some kind of real off topic probs, I don't think you killed her btw. Unless you're just a total dick.

Enrique wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Enrique wrote:dh who should we vote for

Baddies.

name 1

Dom wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Enrique wrote:dh who should we vote for

Baddies.

Like who?

Enrique wrote:dh who should we vote for

Turnip Head wrote:DH why did you kill Sorsha?

Golden wrote:DH is an obvious baddie for NKing sorsha

So, to be extra clear, I won't be voting SVS today. I won't even be making any cases on SVS. I've come to the point on my own thought processes where I genuinely think I may have been wrong about her. I think I've done enough to explain why in previous posts, so I'm moving on.

I also think my annoyance at the lynch yesterday, was in part because I was able to recognise that I had let myself be too focussed on SVS. (It was also partly because the meme generators were hard work and pissing me off).

I recognise today may well be about lynching Glorfindel. If it is, I understand. I agree with Typhoony that lynching an inmate isn't a bad outcome, but I prefer to lynch someone who is really bad, and even more than that I feel as though Glorfindel is making genuine efforts to help the town, not playing both sides as some other people might do with that role. It's also possible that he is actually GCPD. I don't think Glorfindel is bad, and I can't vote that way.

But, I'm not going to focus on Glorfindel. I want to start looking at some new people. People who possibly haven't been looked at enough.

There are a number of people I feel like have flown under the radar this game. Perhaps I have been one until very recently. Typhoony, Dom, DF, DH, LoRab... remarkably even Matt to some extent. Some of these people have taken heat, but I don't really feel like I or any one else has analysed anything much about them. I'd throw me in there - I'd invite anyone to really investigate my game.

At this point, I think I have identified town-leaning roles for SVS, MP, TH and Mac. Unless anyone actually is any of the roles I think these people are and wants to state my theories as being wrong. I have probable town reads on Enrique, bullz and juliets.

That really leaves me looking in that group of six, plus the inactives, for where my vote would go today.

Enrique wrote:Glorfindel? LoRab? Anyone?

S~V~S wrote:

Glorfindel wrote:

Dom wrote:

Glorfindel wrote: Show you that I'm Town, Dom? TH? I'm told that I'm suspicious because of unsubstantiated claims that my playstyle is similar to when I was Mafia in Star Wars. I'm told that I'm not suspicious because I'm not 'hunting' Mafia? Can you not see the blatant hypocrisy of what you're saying? I presented a strong case against MM and apart from two players who at least considered my case, it was completely ignored. I'm being condemned for voting for Sprityo when any number of players voted for him but they're not suspicious. Take for example, Typhoony. The guy has numerous posts and nearly every single one of them devoid of substance. His votes are unsubstantiated. Where is there any questioning of him? Where is the interrogation of the type to which I've been subjected? And you still want me to buy that you two are impartial? I think not.

Your case was not ignored. It was irrelevant because the guy is dead. I don't condemn you for voting sprit. The core of my suspicion has nothing to do with Star Wars-- please read my posts.

Show me that you're town. Stop claiming I'm not impartial and refuting claims that I didn't make and go lynch a baddie-- something you've been hesitant to do all game.

I brought forward my case on MM a day and a bit before he was NK'd and it was ignored. There were probably more players campaigning for my lynching than there was for his. I'm trying very hard to lynch 'baddies' but it's a little difficult when I'm constantly having to defend myself from the false and mischievous allegations that have been constantly directed at me.

In any case, should Typhoony remain with us after the end of this Night phase, I think based on his performance so far this game, he is someone we need to look at very closely.

Typhoony does not write long elaborate posts, true. But he says what has to be said. I have no intention od voting for Typhoony anytime soon. You do what I used to do when I was bad, write long paragraphs of text that don't actually say anything. While I can never hope to be as succinct as he, I have learned alot about getting to the point from him.

Turnip Head wrote:What are you trying to say Golden? That I didn't do enough? After I basically gave myself an ulcer defending SVS the other day, and you replied with "I can't understand why TH is defending her so strongly?"

I made the points in sprityo's defense that he wasn't making himself. I tried to get people off of him and onto other suspects. It's weird that you're acting like I should have done more when YOU'RE the one who wouldn't consider the points I was making.

And I appreciate it when I would not even defend myself that day. I really had just thrown my hands up and said, "Fine, I'll show them" that day, and I appreciate you putting in the effort for me. Yesterday was different. Yesterday the self vote was more of a pressure vote. I wanted to see who would put their money where their mouth was. Golden keeps saying, "I don't know why SVS thinks I am gonna vote for her". Well, I was his main topic of discussion, every post where he mentioned me he mentioned some form of "bad", for starters. And Glorfindel (writing "Glor or Glorf" seems disrespectful to the High Elven, lol) clearly stated he was going to vote for me. I asked 3 tumes for his reasons, finally he said, search my posts. And I did and I could not find it, and asked him to link me to it two or three times,and he ignored me,even though he replied to posts both before & after mine.

So basically I dared the people who suspected me to vote for me. And DH did it becasue DH actually in his heart thinks I am bad. And I can respect that. He is wrong, but he has the courage of his convictions. He made his case, he thought I did not answer him adequately, I said alot of "C'mon lynch me you'll be sorry", and he said fuck that. And he voted for me. Good for him.

Golden & Glorfindel didn't becasue they don't really believe it, imo. They are bad.

Matt wrote:Eh, at least I'm giving it my all. We've got several inactives, Sorsha who herself claims to be a barely functioning active, SVS who continuously votes for herself (but honestly for all I know she's been cursed to do that), D "This is my last game whatevs" H, and blah.

Anyway, my strongest suss remains Turnip. Everyone likes him as civ apparently.

Why you chasin' Golden?

Sorsha wrote:

Golden wrote:This seems like a common default setting in this game - "I have a reason to question you" "Then lynch me".

Not taking a dig at sorsha at all, and sorry if it comes across that way, but it reminds me of Bullets Over Broadway which was a fun game for me but ultimately I felt very sorry for Dom in that the game didn't really have much discussion beyond about day 4. The game will be lacking if people don't want to actually play. I wish people would come play!

I've no desire to be subjected to DH in another game like I was last game. If he thinks I'm bad fine, make a case and get me lynched if others agree with you. Last game it didn't matter what I said he jumped all over it and just said no, you're bad. I admittedly am not paying attention this game, I misremembered who the sabie teammate suspects were and voted on the wrong player, my bad, it was a mistake.

Sorsha wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:Pretty fishy voting reason all things considered Sorsha.

lol... Lynch me then, I don't care. Does it seem like I'm actually playing anyway?

Sorsha wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Sorsha wrote:I really haven't been paying this game the attention I should be and I'm sorry.

Sprityo was one of the ones who's night locations compared to sabies looked like they might be teammates so that's why I'm voting him.

Point me to that post if you don't mind

Wasn't he? I thought it was him and svs?

RIP sprityo

Sorsha wrote:I really haven't been paying this game the attention I should be and I'm sorry.

Sprityo was one of the ones who's night locations compared to sabies looked like they might be teammates so that's why I'm voting him.

Epignosis wrote:I still owe you all location PMs. I haven't forgotten.

S~V~S wrote:Let's talk after this game