The Syndicate

You act as though I've given this entire game the benefit of my thought...and you just said... "Epi has not given a single shit who has been eliminated any day phase." I suspect you'd have given a shit if falcon was closer to death. What is your read on him? Say something about falcon.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 12:26 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 12:10 am It should be plenty apparent that I am not teamed with Epignosis, and not just based on today.
Now you're speaking truth!

Way to ignore the previous bit about Long Con and I. Inconsistent with your obvious agenda.

Oh, I read that. I'm just saying I wouldn't mind playing the long game for credibility and I think you'd do something similar (and LC certainly wouldn't be opposed to that). Maybe that's true in your case. But I am not making a mechanically suboptimal kill unless it provides some kind of clear and ...

Epi has not given a single shit who has been eliminated any day phase. Look at his posts. He does not care. He has flirted with plenty votes himself on various candidates to be eliminated (at least including both Abigails, Simon, LoRab, and myself). The standout frequent wagons that he never contrib...

The mafia are Epignosis and falcon. Confidence increasing.

It should be plenty apparent that I am not teamed with Epignosis, and not just based on today. falcon has been complaining at me the whole game. He's clearly not my teammate. sig wants my head on a pike. He's clearly not my teammate. Tony is nobody's teammate, and I am a part of nobody. Everybody? N...

Whether folks believe me or not is their own prerogative. I don't give a damn at this point. But for my own peace of mind and perhaps for future reference (in my dreams): Long Con, when civilian and accused, "annoys" me (for lack of a better word). This is not meant as a criticism of Long...

I can already smell the prevailing counter theory -- that Long Con and I are both mafia. So before anyone even bothers trying to pull that crap, return to Day 1 and take a look.

LoRab is only mafia if she is with Long Con. While it's not conclusive, I think their interactions suggest otherwise. Maybe we just clear LoRab here too.

That would be unexpected and very welcome.

I suppose my hang up is the expectation that everyone is going to play "optimally" as mafia. I have hosted a ton and that just doesn't happen all the time. To be clear: most people won't. In this particular case, there is a core mechanic at work. Some people would miss it. I think some pe...

It’s not Epi Lorab

[VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

Citation: DrWilgy

@Long Con do you have an initial take on my view of Epignosis?

I also totally forgot about TSP in the above. Do we think we have two independents? If not he has to be mafia right? I could also see him being one to do a gambit with Wilgy I don't believe he is independent. I think he was trying to draw a kill instead of Kagemusha. If he is independent, then what...

@TonyStarkPrime if Long Con is mafia, you're probably the one best-suited to tell me that. I am towning him right now, but I acknowledge I am taking leaps to do so. I feel like I have no choice.

What has Epignosis actually done in this game that is indicative of his being a civilian? Serious question.

Everyone has seemed town at one point or another. Who cares anymore. Raise the bar.

However, my view on Jay hasn’t changed his willingness to switch from lorab/falcon to Simon is a red flag especially given his other theory which we were keeping quite but no point now. I quite literally had no clue what do with my vote. Everyone felt like a guess. Ask yourself if you'd have a clue...

Epi/falcon and Epi/LoRab seem like the most likely teams by a decent margin to me. Deciding which one is no simple task, but Epignosis is the common denominator.

I also totally forgot about TSP in the above. Do we think we have two independents? If not he has to be mafia right? I could also see him being one to do a gambit with Wilgy I don't believe he is independent. I think he was trying to draw a kill instead of Kagemusha. If he is independent, then what...

sig wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:53 pmI think I need to totally reevaluate this game.

Don't say this and then proclaim total trust two lines later lol. Do it. View the game through town Jay's eyes (and town LC's and town LoRab's). It shouldn't be that hard.

However, my view on Jay hasn’t changed his willingness to switch from lorab/falcon to Simon is a red flag especially given his other theory which we were keeping quite but no point now. I quite literally had no clue what do with my vote. Everyone felt like a guess. Ask yourself if you'd have a clue...

Long Con and LoRab -- meh
Long Con and falcon -- doubt it
Long Con and Epignosis - meh

LoRab and falcon - doubt it
LoRab and Epignsosis - meh

Epignosis and falcon - sure

Association reads. Epignosis is probably mafia.

If epi is mafia we’re cooked and it may or may not be sigs fault :p Things aren’t looking great, granted I didn’t pop up last phase in time so oops, BUT I don’t like how that Simon vote went down mafia definitely went along with it We're only cooked if we don't vote him out today or tomorrow. That ...

Yea I’m not really a fan of anyone on the falcon wagon. Lorab is probably the only solid read one the three. I think ONLY focusing on the Wilgy flip and mech is very very dangerous and scummy in fact the more I think about it the less I like people making those cases. It just seems like a really ea...

gif What's your falcon read? :shrug: What’s your JaggedJimmyJay and/or Epignosis read? I'm not doing reads right now. Scotty town Epi town I won't lie, having the Epi family all in this game is a strange wrinkle that is a factor in how I think about it. Agreed, it's an unavoidable piece of the puzz...

Current thoughts: I’m of 2 minds on LC, because I read him wrong last game . But he has been pingy. Especially using the FEB emoji. So, not voting him for now, but keeping an eyeball there. :eye: Just because it's a reasonable piece of evidence to decry any emoji tells you might be implying: Almost...

Current thoughts: I’m of 2 minds on LC, because I read him wrong last game. But he has been pingy. Especially using the FEB emoji. So, not voting him for now, but keeping an eyeball there. :eye: I do suspect Wilgy. His posts feel like he’s faking himself, if that makes sense. Like, he’s trying too ...

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:39 pm I'm very likely to vote falcon.

I am in a similar place, if only for Wilgy's sake. Let me know if you agree with my assessment that he is a bad fit with LoRab.

falcon45ca motobot DrWilgy Abigail Sophia LoRab Simon TonyStarkPrime sig Long Con JaggedJimmyJay Epignosis Is there meaning to your colors here? Or is it just pretty… Maybe no one will post and these guys can just yeet me themselves Which guys exactly? Not much from LoRab toward Long Con.

lorab @LoRab Who else is on your team? Any particular reason you’re voting me? And anyone who is a civvie is on my team. I’ve had “reads”. They’re of low quality. I’ve been opem about that. For example: you’ve just voted for LoRab. Does that vote gove you confidence? Do you believe in that vote? I ...

lorab @LoRab Who else is on your team? I’ve had “reads”. They’re of low quality. I’ve been opem about that. For example: you’ve just voted for LoRab. Does that vote gove you confidence? Do you believe in that vote? I am confident that either Lorab will engage, which is why I tagged them... Or they ...

I suppose my hang up is the expectation that everyone is going to play "optimally" as mafia. I have hosted a ton and that just doesn't happen all the time. To be clear: most people won't. In this particular case, there is a core mechanic at work. Some people would miss it. I think some pe...

LoRab just as a placeholder for now. I shouldn't even be playing. I'm still working. :smile: Harumph. :lorab: Current thoughts: I’m of 2 minds on LC, because I read him wrong last game. But he has been pingy. Especially using the FEB emoji. So, not voting him for now, but keeping an eyeball there. ...

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 3:07 pm I think Epi is town? But really he's a hard read for me, I will say he's more involved than I normally associate w/ his scum game, ergo town for now

falcon said Epi's name on numerous occasions, but he didn't really take any kind of stance until this one. And it's a wet fart.

Having any reasonable reason to believe someone is Town is enough to put them out of the running at this point of course. Tony being the most alert to the rules and the Shingen everything disqualifies him from being eliminated ever, due to the blunderkill. We have all agreed sig = Town from the get...

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:32 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:00 am
And so, since you are neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth

Straight from the book of Revelation. Love it.

This is the only thing Epignosis has done with falcon in the entire game. There's your pair. Good game.

If Tony is mafia, I lose. If sig is mafia, I lose. Four others with 2-3 mafia in them. Epignosis, Long Con, LoRab, falcon45ca I'll revisit the association dynamics in this smaller set and see what is most viable. And then sig will vote me out with his pecs glistening, and the game will end. XD Ok, ...

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:19 pm 7 players, yeet a Wolf, 4-2. kill 2 Town, 2-2 parity. Three wolves, it's done now.

You're right. Thank you. Nap needed.

If Tony is mafia, I lose.
If sig is mafia, I lose.

Four others with 2-3 mafia in them. Epignosis, Long Con, LoRab, falcon45ca

I'll revisit the association dynamics in this smaller set and see what is most viable. And then sig will vote me out with his pecs glistening, and the game will end.

I think it can still be three? Just a 4v3 final elimination phase.

I'm extremely tired at work; I might be dumb.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:15 pm Seven players, homie. Two mafia guaranteed.

Oh. Nevermind I counted motobot among the mentions.

Cool beans.

I'm sure this will be another wonderful fun day phase of Mafia. I can't wait.

8 players alive

The game can end today. That requires a mafia team of 3.

6v2 --> miss --> 5v2 --> two kills --> 3v2, game alive
5v3 --> miss --> game over regardless of double kill

Good luck and godspeed. What a ballgame.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:56 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:55 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:54 pm I don't mind if Simon goes. Boy ignored my question twice. Very simple to answer.
True. Forgot that bit.

[VOTE: Simon] aubergine
Did you?

Yep. I looked at Simon's posts earlier, and didn't see the responses he didn't provide.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:55 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:54 pm I would hope.
If not, we can have a jolly LOL together as the Town goes down.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:54 pm I don't mind if Simon goes. Boy ignored my question twice. Very simple to answer.

True. Forgot that bit.

[VOTE: Simon] aubergine

I would hope.

My feelings about a Simon elimination - "sure"
My feelings about a LoRab elimination - "sure"
My feelings about a falcon45ca elimination - "eh"
My feelings about a JaggedJimmyJay elimination - "lol whatever"

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:46 pm [VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

Washed my ass.

(That's funny you see)

All due respect, but I think it may be both of us.

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