The Syndicate

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:23 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:21 pm
lapluie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:21 pm @dunya if nutella gets lynched tomorrow & is town, what should we do with you?
Why are you lynching nutella?
Why are you ignoring her question? She said "if" I got lynched, not that she's lynching me. She's voting for you. Answer the hypothetical.

And? What's the got to do with me exactly? We are over 24 hours away from deadline. I haven't decided on my final vote yet. Even if I do end up casing you and voting for you, are you implying I have the power to make the thread vote for whoever I want?

If we lynch TSP and he turns out town, what are we going to do with you lapluie?

You lynched sig, who flipped town, what are we going to do with you nutella?

I don't answer tunneled rhetorics that haven't happened yet or may not even happen, and don't have implications on people yet or even if they do happen, big fucking deal? I don't like people acting like they've never mislynched in a mafia game. If mislynches never happened, then what's the point of mafia and scum hunting? It's why I got suspicious of Quin and speed initially, that holier than thou attitude is obnoxious sorry not sorry.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:23 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:09 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:06 pm @dunya i'm interested in hearing your read on dunya at this point in the game, do you have one yet? you're the only person to have played with a mafia dunya so i value your input here
Sloonei, MacDougall and JJJ have played with mafia dunya.
I'm actually the most interested in Jay's read specifically, Sloonei and Mac could definitely provide input but Jay's read has the added benefit of helping me read him.

Your best bet into sussing me out on here is looking into my independent game in the burglary I guess. Though that game pace is a pretty lousy comparison to full blown mafia games. If you're very interested, I can email you a PDF of the last scum game I played on RYM. It's 700+ pages long.
that's way too many pages lol. wasn't there a game recently where you replaced in as civ and ended up quickly having to deal with suspicion? Pirates? Or just a game you had to deal with suspicion in general?

Mountains? Seinfeld? Vocaroo? have your pick.

lapluie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:21 pm @dunya if nutella gets lynched tomorrow & is town, what should we do with you?

Why are you lynching nutella?

sig wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:18 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:27 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:34 pm The Sig lynch was bad.
Dunya is bad for starting it.

1. Sig is always wishy-washy
2. Waffley behavior is a textbook EZ suspicion to put on mislynches, when it can really go both ways. Town can be genuinely uncertain as easily as mafia can be nervous
3. Sig couldn't defend easily, and this is a mostly brand-new suspicion. That's the reason I'd rather have gone with a D1 case. Now we're back to square one.
4. Sig's lynch gained momentum too easily. If half the scumteam wasn't on it, I will eat a Kansas CD.

Dunya replaced in, and her first action was to go through the thread, pick the easiest mislynch possible, and drive it home while Sig couldn't defend himself and no better cases could be made. Screw that.
I don't recall voting for sig because he was wishy-washy. Dunya's case was the best thing I could make sense of in that thread, plus it even had an extra flavour of sig buddying me, which I'm most always partial to. I practically tied nutella for being the second voter, seemed like she was mere seconds ahead of me in both the vote and the vote-post. Don't know if that info is relevant to you, but that's how it happened.
So Dunya's case was good, which included me flipflopping on my opinion of you which she found scummy, yet you also wanted me to be lynched since I was "buddying." This makes absolutely no sense and is the scummiest reason to vote for someone you also try to throw suspicion onto nutella since she voted for me right around the same time you did. I had solid reasoning for why I didn't think you were mafia and you say it was just me buddying, this seems like an LC scum thing to do voting for a scapegoat on weak reasoning.

I actually felt at some point today during my lunch break, and while eating an apple with cheese, that LC could be Kano.

rabbit8 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:16 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:14 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:13 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:11 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:00 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:57 pm Fair point. In general.

I disagree in this very particular situation.

I also saw nothing in sig from Day 1 that I wanted to vote him for, so I had no interest in lynching him Day 2.
that's ok, I think you're likely to be scum so I don't blame ya for not hopping on that bandwagon.

care to link me to a written town game you've played fairly recently?
Well that's convenient. What led you to that conclusion?

The only "normalish" game I've played recently is Phenon.
It's not convenient. I had you as bad in my rainbow list. What's convenient is you trying to case me bad after I did that.
I haven't seen your rainbow list. I just assumed this is the first mentioning of it.

I don't think is was actually a rainbow....

well, I don't actually think you're a rabbit

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:13 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:09 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:06 pm @dunya i'm interested in hearing your read on dunya at this point in the game, do you have one yet? you're the only person to have played with a mafia dunya so i value your input here
Sloonei, MacDougall and JJJ have played with mafia dunya.

Your best bet into sussing me out on here is looking into my independent game in the burglary I guess. Though that game pace is a pretty lousy comparison to full blown mafia games. If you're very interested, I can email you a PDF of the last scum game I played on RYM. It's 700+ pages long.
I'd rather just lynch you since you have content and then I can build a case from that.

Except for the case part.

OK!

Just in time before my friend comes and stays with me for 2 weeks!

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:11 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:00 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:57 pm Fair point. In general.

I disagree in this very particular situation.

I also saw nothing in sig from Day 1 that I wanted to vote him for, so I had no interest in lynching him Day 2.
that's ok, I think you're likely to be scum so I don't blame ya for not hopping on that bandwagon.

care to link me to a written town game you've played fairly recently?
Well that's convenient. What led you to that conclusion?

The only "normalish" game I've played recently is Phenon.

It's not convenient. I had you as bad in my rainbow list. What's convenient is you trying to case me bad after I did that.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:09 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:06 pm @dunya i'm interested in hearing your read on dunya at this point in the game, do you have one yet? you're the only person to have played with a mafia dunya so i value your input here
Sloonei, MacDougall and JJJ have played with mafia dunya.

Indeed, me and Sloonster have been scum partners before. Not sure if me and Mac were ever behind the scenes together and me and Jay haven't been mafia partners yet. But all of us have witnessed each other as scum multiple times.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:06 pm @dunya i'm interested in hearing your read on dunya at this point in the game, do you have one yet? you're the only person to have played with a mafia dunya so i value your input here

Sloonei, MacDougall and JJJ have played with mafia dunya.

Your best bet into sussing me out on here is looking into my independent game in the burglary I guess. Though that game pace is a pretty lousy comparison to full blown mafia games. If you're very interested, I can email you a PDF of the last scum game I played on RYM. It's 700+ pages long.

rabbit8 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:02 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:00 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:57 pm Fair point. In general.

I disagree in this very particular situation.

I also saw nothing in sig from Day 1 that I wanted to vote him for, so I had no interest in lynching him Day 2.
that's ok, I think you're likely to be scum so I don't blame ya for not hopping on that bandwagon.

care to link me to a written town game you've played fairly recently?

Which bandwagon? Of you or Sig?

I was talking about sig. I'm not worried about the 3 votes on me today.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:02 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:57 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:53 pm Funny thing about post restrictions...
That was the ONLY thing you could say? I find that hard to believe.
Go find me a Fire Emblem quote that talks about the relative suspicion of two people. It's a tactical RPG, not a murder mystery.

I meant couldn't you have found a less enthusiastic quote? The quote was pretty full on board imo.

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:57 pm Fair point. In general.

I disagree in this very particular situation.

I also saw nothing in sig from Day 1 that I wanted to vote him for, so I had no interest in lynching him Day 2.

that's ok, I think you're likely to be scum so I don't blame ya for not hopping on that bandwagon.

care to link me to a written town game you've played fairly recently?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:53 pm Funny thing about post restrictions...

That was the ONLY thing you could say? I find that hard to believe.

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:51 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:49 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:48 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:38 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:31 pm Dunya, on a day when players could not properly defend themselves, why did you want to lynch a player who was talking and could defend themselves later rather than a player who wasn't here?
You haven't played many games with me, but I am and always will be a strong advocate of NOT lynching complete no posters until absolutely necessary, such as in POE phases.
I believe the opposite. I'd rather lynch the no-posters sooner than later. They may eventually join and post, but the likelihood is low. The people who are here posting will continue to talk, so let them talk.

This was a more prime than ever situation to lynch a low-poster. The talkers couldn't even talk properly while the no-posters exhibited the same behavior.
Then we can agree to disagree on our scum hunting and mafia playing strategies.
What is this scum-hunting you speak of?

I just like to keep the loud players around so I can disagree with them.

I'm sorry, but I have a theory I go by and that is the odds of catching scum are better when you lynch someone with content you can judge and build a case for. I play mafia cos it's fun and because I'm competitive as hell and like to win. Lynching no-posters just so I can keep scummy-looking posters around so more people are talking isn't my thing. I lynch ya if ya scummy. No posters aren't scummy until POE.

rabbit8 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:50 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:48 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:38 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:31 pm Dunya, on a day when players could not properly defend themselves, why did you want to lynch a player who was talking and could defend themselves later rather than a player who wasn't here?
You haven't played many games with me, but I am and always will be a strong advocate of NOT lynching complete no posters until absolutely necessary, such as in POE phases.
I believe the opposite. I'd rather lynch the no-posters sooner than later. They may eventually join and post, but the likelihood is low. The people who are here posting will continue to talk, so let them talk.

This was a more prime than ever situation to lynch a low-poster. The talkers couldn't even talk properly while the no-posters exhibited the same behavior.
I agree with this.

uh hellllllo, UNFLUFFY we're supposed to be bffs, don't stab a kitty kat in her back ok?

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:48 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:38 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:31 pm Dunya, on a day when players could not properly defend themselves, why did you want to lynch a player who was talking and could defend themselves later rather than a player who wasn't here?
You haven't played many games with me, but I am and always will be a strong advocate of NOT lynching complete no posters until absolutely necessary, such as in POE phases.
I believe the opposite. I'd rather lynch the no-posters sooner than later. They may eventually join and post, but the likelihood is low. The people who are here posting will continue to talk, so let them talk.

This was a more prime than ever situation to lynch a low-poster. The talkers couldn't even talk properly while the no-posters exhibited the same behavior.

Then we can agree to disagree on our scum hunting and mafia playing strategies.

sig wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:32 pm linki: I can't tell if your nice or pretending to be nice dunya so I guess thanks?

I was totally serious! I don't do sarcasm well. I feel awful for building that case. I'm sorry

You and only you deserve my apology.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:40 pm @sig

Consider:

1) I thought the case on you was far better than the case on Tony and nobody was voting for my higher suspects at EOD.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:24 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 3:31 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:39 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:24 pm *votes Sig*
Can you get me through these changes?
Bear witness as I exercise my exorcism
The evil that lurks within the sin, the terrorism

sig wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:15 pm If we assume LC is being honest and not just trying to lay low, then this actually makes me think he's town. I don't think scum LC would be so lackluster and so obvious about it, especially if he hasn't been mafia in awhile and had a big civ game and then rolled civ again. So I don't think we should lynch him today.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:15 pm Some other quick notes Nutella is looking good right now, LC I'd say leans good, Mac is posting as he always does as both a civ and mafia member so I can't really tell yet, 3J and Sloonie have alot of posts which is a pain, but minus Sloonie's Wilgy's comment he seems okay same with 3J. Though I don't quite see the case on Jack yet.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:08 pm He's missing the opportunistic nature that scum LC usually has, where he's active, tries to lead lynches, and is a mega poster. He could be trying another strategy as scum true, but I doubt that.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:05 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:17 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:55 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:17 pm @Made @JaggedJimmyJay what do you think is the strongest point against Mac right now?
3
I agree. Ok, I'll change my vote. Sorry Mac.
This is pingy.
But only a real thug can stab someone 'til they die
Standing in front of them, staring straight into their eyes

sig wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:15 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:38 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:10 pm I'm surprised Made, JJJ, quin ect took the first page so serious it's odd seeing how it is day 0 first page.
What does this mean to you?
Nothing really besides the fact that y'all jumped the gun and started serious posting way to soon. Maybe I'll be able to glean some information later down the road, but for now nothing.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:08 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:19 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:15 pm Speed saying he'd vote for dunya was strange.
Why is that strange? What does strange mean?
She isn't playing the game, I don't usually jump on funny/joke posts since I do them so often, but the way he said it was strange. Also I'd say strange is like somewhere between suspicious and null, like I should look into it more since it pinged me, but I probably won't.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:08 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:07 pm I suspect sig. He gave a bunch of town reads including a dubious pass for Long Con, and the only suspicion he didn't in some way retract was "speedchuck saying he'd vote dunya is strange" -- the weakest of sauce. He was vaguely critical of Kyle and Sloonei, but didn't stick to either.
I don't have many reads to give honestly nobody looks that bad to me yet I've had some minor pings, but nothing more. I feel like I'd get good information out of the few big post arguments, but that's alot of work.

I think if I hear that fuckin' word again I'mma scream
While I'm projectile vomiting, what do I look like, a comedian to you?
Do you think that I'm kidding? What do I look like some kind of idi-
Wait a minute, shit, don't answer that - why am I so misunderstood?
Why do I go through so much bullshit, it's such bullshit, it's tush mull bisch
Woe is me
"You know, I like you. And I feel I can trust you completely."

I mean sorry, but like, your comment on my post indicates a little more than just "sig is just a better option than the Tony case"

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:31 pm Dunya, on a day when players could not properly defend themselves, why did you want to lynch a player who was talking and could defend themselves later rather than a player who wasn't here?

You haven't played many games with me, but I am and always will be a strong advocate of NOT lynching complete no posters until absolutely necessary, such as in POE phases.

lapluie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:14 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:11 pm hi sig, i'm glad you're back. we missed you. i missed you. remember the last 2 games we played in together and everyone scum read you and I defended you till my dying breath? yeah, I miss those days.

can you tell us if dead players are allowed to vote and if their voting is counted? do you and sloonei and macdouall have btsc?
Girl you killed him

also [mention]MacDougall[/mention] and [mention]Sloonei[/mention]

after you died ITT, did epi PM you to tell you that you're not completely out of the game?

just totes curious about that and how far ahead Epignosis is with the setup or if this was player initiated.

also [mention]sig[/mention]

after you died ITT, did epi PM you to tell you that you're not completely out of the game?

just totes curious about that and how far ahead the mod is or if this was player initiated.

hi [mention]sig[/mention], i'm glad you're back. we missed you. i missed you. remember the last 2 games we played in together and everyone scum read you and I defended you till my dying breath? yeah, I miss those days.

can you tell us if dead players are allowed to vote and if their voting is counted? do you and sloonei and macdouall have btsc?

I should do nutella next but I keep getting side tracked by other ppl. And we have 48 hours so I'm taking advantage of that and doing whatever comes to me.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:45 pm dunya, can you describe the similarities you perceive between SFII Simon and MK Simon? I'm looking at each ISO now and it's not immediately apparent.

yea.

if you look a little down in SFII, you'll notice very sharp, to the point posts. No natural progressive ideas, nothing offered on his own.

The town game you just sent me, was a weird fucking game btw judging by his ISO alone, but there were some comments in there that were given on his own merit, like Scotty asking "why SVS" and Simon responded then added something different and more without even having to.

"Scotty wrote:
Also, what's up? Why SVS?
I think she has the coolest name to be second-in-command.

I picked JaggedJimmyJay and Boomslang to fight because I think Russ is a good guy."

Here, and in SFII, you had to direct the question to him specifically or he wouldn't answer or give any responses to game development.

He even bullied you itt because of your "noob username". That was super cool and super out of character for what I think Simon was like in Street Fighter. In Street Fighter, he complimented MP...he buddied speedchuck. I don't know. I mean he buddied with speed in vocaroo too, but I'm leaving vocaroo out of it and speed, cos he's so impressionable.

I feel bad now for revealing this on Day 3 and he has time to change his meta easily, but that's what I got when I compared ISOs.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:40 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:39 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:29 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:10 pm But you've also been active this day phase before he/she reminded you. Are you telling me you started this day phase having forgotten about your top suspect ?
I was indeed active this day phase before that and during the night, such as the time I called you a suspect. There was also the other time I called you a suspect. It's nice to come in here with an itch to vote for someone though and have the best name presented to me by someone else.

If not you, then who? Give me three suspects.
Here you go : Dunya, TonyStarkPrime and JaggedJimmyJay
Please tell me about the things that make you suspicious of dunya and TSP.

he has no obligation to respond to you, cos you're scum to him.

someone else should ask him.

I mean, I hate to base a case entirely on meta but Simon is such a low contributor, I also can't not case him because a case doesn't exist.... soooooo....I need Town Simon examples.

opening Simon's ISO here and Street Fighter ISO is not a good look for Simon. The resemblance between his two post histories is alarming.

He was Town in Vocaroo. Can someone tell me a written mafia game where Simon was town in, please?

It should be noted though in Mountains and SF: the two active scummies asked to be replaced very early in the game and the replacements replaced those players fist accordingly. A mod won't actively try to replace a player on Day 0- Day 1 as they might show up. Pirates was a different case, but Sloonei randomized it, he said.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:11 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:59 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:52 pmSimon super bad tho.
tell me about simon
He rully bad. Votes for townies with no reasoning or even calling votes. Does no hunting on his own. Gives no opinions when asked.

He was busy playing chess last night.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:09 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:03 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:01 pm Somebody research the "bad replacements first" theory.

Between Street Fighter, Pirates and Miuntsins we ought to have a fair dataset.
it might be better to use a dataset composed only of Epignosis games.
Smaller dataset. People change style over time.

Street Fighter is a start.

I actually don't care much for trying to meta alignment out of the mod because it doesn't seem to be in the spirit of the game. Also I'm too lazy to check.

I know Jay was scum in that game, and asked for an early replacement. I don't recall any other replacements.

specifically: here are simon's Street Fighter Baddie posts: http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/search ... sf=msgonly

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:01 pm Somebody research the "bad replacements first" theory.

Between Street Fighter, Pirates and Miuntsins we ought to have a fair dataset.

Pirates, you were subbed in (bad) then colonialbob.

Mountains, Jay (bad), then me, then malakim (both good), then nijuu (bad)

I make this case sometimes, so I have no problem assisting you with more reasons why I'm bad.

I'm not sure about SF, after I was night killed I didn't really follow the game.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:59 pm was street fighter a job, heist, burglary or a side mission?

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... et+fighter

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:54 pm And I already figured out Tony and LC are town because I can flipping read their very souls so I don't care what anybody has to say about them.

GTH: novaselinenever

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:41 pm @dunya

Where's that Nutella case?

eventually, ya, I'm playing around with other ISOs atm.

I notice in America you don't use defence as the noun and defense as the verb, do you?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:20 pm Voted Simon for now

Wait, are dead people allowed to vote?

considering MacD's vote is on you, I'll say yes.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:10 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:07 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:06 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:04 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:58 pm You've been trying to go after me for a while now. It looks like you've just been waiting for someone to ask you about me before jumping on for a lynch.
rabbit's question did serve as a reminder.
Does your top target needs a reminder ? This doesn't make any sense
When I've spent the last day playing a different Mafia game, reminders are appreciated.
But you've also been active this day phase before he/she reminded you. Are you telling me you started this day phase having forgotten about your top suspect ?

typical. so typical.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:52 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:36 pmI came into a game in the worst phase possible and tried to contribute something useful.

If you can't see it that way, I got nothing more to say.
that wasn't really what i asked. i already do see it that way. you came in and made lemonade out of lemons, then 6 other people drank that lemonade and followed a similar recipe for their own lemonade. then someone died, I guess, which doesn't really fit the lemonade metaphor really(?) but it strikes me as weird that your response is "everyone else contributed to the lemonade just as much as me" rather than like.... "sorry, i guess that lemonade recipe wasn't as good as I thought it was going to be, my bad"

I do not apologize to people who decide to lynch the same person as I chose. WHAT IS THIS? I am an adult. I am playing with other adults (and scumsimon). Ya'll made your own decisions. I'll apologize to sig, which I have, I sure as heck won't apologize to people who didn't make their own cases and decided mine was good enough.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:54 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:52 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:36 pmI came into a game in the worst phase possible and tried to contribute something useful.

If you can't see it that way, I got nothing more to say.
that wasn't really what i asked. i already do see it that way. you came in and made lemonade out of lemons, then 6 other people drank that lemonade and followed a similar recipe for their own lemonade. then someone died, I guess, which doesn't really fit the lemonade metaphor really(?) but it strikes me as weird that your response is "everyone else contributed to the lemonade just as much as me" rather than like.... "sorry, i guess that lemonade recipe wasn't as good as I thought it was going to be, my bad"
Well, I mean, they drank it before making it. If it tasted like crap, they shouldn't have swallowed.

that's what she said

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:03 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:59 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:56 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:37 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:32 pm
lapluie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:31 pm Dunya is evil
I find her very sketchy but what makes you certain that she's bad news ?
Hi new guy! Why do you find me sketchy?
Mainly you starting the lynch train last day phase, your reasons for it and some of your other posts. You're one of the few usernames I've been keeping a track off.
I loathe this.

I vomit all over it.

I started the lynch train (OBV DUNYA) then "mumble mumble other reasons...I have notes and keep track of your posts"

Oh yeah?

well gimme those other reasons immediately or prepare to die. I will shoot you right now. Not hesitant.
I don't have any obligation to give you my reasons, and this is not the way to go to get them. Be my guest and shoot.

Actually, if you're town you have an obligation to be helpful.

If you're scum, you have no obligation.

You're not being helpful.

Are you saying you're scum?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:56 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:37 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:32 pm
lapluie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:31 pm Dunya is evil
I find her very sketchy but what makes you certain that she's bad news ?
Hi new guy! Why do you find me sketchy?
Mainly you starting the lynch train last day phase, your reasons for it and some of your other posts. You're one of the few usernames I've been keeping a track off.

I loathe this.

I vomit all over it.

I started the lynch train (OBV DUNYA) then "mumble mumble other reasons...I have notes and keep track of your posts"

Oh yeah?

well gimme those other reasons immediately or prepare to die. I will shoot you right now. Not hesitant.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:51 pm Last question, I promise dunya

How many games have you played with Sig?

Pirates, Mountains and this one. I already mentioned that. I town read him in Pirates and Mountains ftr (but you know that since you played those 2). I felt he was sincere there in a way he wasn't here.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:46 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:36 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:16 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:00 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:30 pmI am 1 vote sig, you are 1 vote on sig. We are equally responsible, Mr. JoH, so don't go pointing that long finger anywhere k?
hej hej, don't you think this is a little bit untrue? sig wasn't even a point of conversation before you came in and built a case on him.
I mean it's not like you bounced in and single-handedly lynched him all on your own, and I don't think making a case against him by itself was a bad look, but it seems like you're underselling your involvement in the event a little bit.
I came into a game in the worst phase possible and tried to contribute something useful.

If you can't see it that way, I got nothing more to say.

lapluie is excused for her suspicions because she hasn't played any previous games with me.

But here's some dunya scum meta for you: scum dunya would have latched onto one of the two bandwagons...three votes each, so easy for me. so painless. I could have built cases and made it seem like an informed choice. TSP? Are you kidding me? I could have made a 100 reasons why he was fishy and weird.
You came up with 2 sort-of weak reasons for lynching Sig. If there were 100 reasons to lynch TSP, why not lynch TSP? And what DO you think of TSP?
Walk me through your thought process, please. Sincere question.

I was walking you through a scum dunya's thought process. If I wanted to lynch TSP, I could have faked reasons.

My reasons for sig were genuine, and while he wasn't the only person I suspected, I explained his appearances online and not commenting pinged me and made me decide against switching my vote. I had no idea everyone would latch onto it like they did. I was on him for the better part of the day as a lone voter, till YOU prodded me for a reason and I gave it my best shot. I couldn't have anticipated that reaction.

rabbit8 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:44 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:41 pm
rabbit8 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:37 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:32 pm
lapluie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:31 pm Dunya is evil
I find her very sketchy but what makes you certain that she's bad news ?

@JaggedJimmyJay

What you think of this guy...... ?
One of my top suspects. I'm going to vote there now.
Is the reasoning the same as low contributing baddie?

If this really is a thing that the baddies have become lackadaisical overall I'm annoyed and will have to give you the benefit of the doubt in accusing me of shit that will be remedied as I get into the game and play.

What I found most disturbing was when Jay asked him for an example of his Town games, and he said "no" because he wants us to judge him solely on his performance and merit in this game.

I don't like tightlipped players. And he's been hush hush secret secret.

"I think we will have 1 evil player...."

I think? YOU THINK? weak words from an otherwise strong lady, huh lapluie.

weak sauce. you are weak sauce. I call you out for the weakness of a case I don't see.

lapluie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:42 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:41 pm
rabbit8 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:37 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:32 pm
lapluie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:31 pm Dunya is evil
I find her very sketchy but what makes you certain that she's bad news ?

@JaggedJimmyJay

What you think of this guy...... ?
One of my top suspects. I'm going to vote there now.
We should lynch Dunya. I think for now we will have 1 evil player killed if so.

where's Glorf? Has he been silenced????

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:37 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:22 pm @Kylemii

Your current thoughts on Simon? Any reads you want to give on quieter people in general would be appreciated.
Simon is a null read rn. I think his 2 most notable actions so far have been voting for bwt, who was at the time a completely irrelevant player and vote, and voting for sig who was, vote-wise, much more relevant. Does Simon have any specific voting tendencies in text based games where his sister isn't also playing?

My only prior Simon experience was in vocaroo where he mostly voted for his sister a lot. I don't remember his votes being relevant enough after Tink's death to be useful for analysis. He lived til the end and ended up with having a civ read only by process of elimination since it would be harder than usual to miss sending in a night kill pm when you actually live with the host, and also because Wilgy got jailed and there wasn't a kill.

I suggest taking a look through the Street Fighter game he was a baddie in. search street fighter and you'll find it. I'm that lazy.

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