The Syndicate

Bea - best story eve...

DH wanted to lynch me so bad but he just couldn't do it. :grin: :grin: :grin: That four way lynch still keeps me awake at night. Never have I been so frustrated at being able to play only on my phone lol...

Marmot - the true king of winning in obscure ways. The 2015 Game of Champions would not have truly represented 2015 without it. Marmot, you must accept...

Well done SVS and TH. I really appreciate it when hosts engage with the players, and even the deadies. It's a pleasure to be hosted by the both of you...

I think the non-technical winning team played a sublime game, though. I suspected Mac, but I was never on to Wilgy, Motel Room or Matt, and I didn't get the sense anyone else was in the time before I died either...

Sorsha, I appreciated you trying to get the civs a win. MM too, for that matter. Matt did play really well though, but I knew FZ was civ :( if I'd been playing in the game I wouldn't have voted FZ. But it's possible I might have voted MM :haha...

Frankly of those on the list that I played in I seriously loved them all. It doesn't hurt that I was still playing in very close endgames in three of them. And won two of them. :meany: Then again, my record is 100%, based on two games. Non-civvie in both. :beer: Did not play the other three. I won all of them......

Frankly of those on the list that I played in I seriously loved them all. It doesn't hurt that I was still playing in very close endgames in three of them....

I expected a PM telling me I have been rezzed....

I think its might be daisy's ones. My Trogdor banner is still fine, that's Daisys, one of my *image* ones is a hedville banner. I just checked... here is the culprit. http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y299/MovingPictures07...

I think its might be daisy's ones....

lol at poll title....

i went to the zoo And all they had was one dog It was a shih-tzu...

i like the word nullish....

good luck town. Rez please? :puppy:...

re whoever is wondering why lots of people voted lorab yesterday but not today... It's because yesterday, lots of us were finding a consensus candidate to save jj. I'll vote lorab to the same end of it comes to it, but I think mm is a good bet. He really is playing like dune mm. Just reading back and saw this. So Tranq and Motel Room were trying to find a consensus candidate to save Jimmy? Yeah, right. Lots and all mean the same thing now? Lots and 2 mean the same thing now? Jimmy, fz, me... That accounts for three. Out of the 'so many people not voting for her again' that accounted for at least half, since at least two others were repeating their lorab vote at that time. You can play the semantics game if you want, but is it helpful? What is your point in calling out that post...

re whoever is wondering why lots of people voted lorab yesterday but not today... It's because yesterday, lots of us were finding a consensus candidate to save jj. I'll vote lorab to the same end of it comes to it, but I think mm is a good bet. He really is playing like dune mm. Just reading back and saw this. So Tranq and Motel Room were trying to find a consensus candidate to save Jimmy? Yeah, right. Lots and all mean the same thing now...

I didn't switch to Lorab in the last second, because I was really pissed. I said I would, to save JJJ, but I didn't. I'm bad. Lynch me next. Epi, BR and Sorsha, nice job! Golden, the town is not worth it. Muddle through fz. :hugs...

Voted Thelma and Louise because svs and th could drive this game off a cliff and I'd willingly go over with them...

And the idea that mafia would blink in that scenario is equally daft. I can't give an exact example off the top of my head, but I feel that it's happened before. With potentially two scum teams at play, that makes it especially favorable. In a scenario where the whole thread is saying 'first person to blink is scum'... I think not. @mac. Twenty players in this game didn't try to stop the tie. If they are all bad town is screwed. Linki thank god the lynch went the right way...

And the idea that mafia would blink in that scenario is equally daft...

I don't believe it. We actually went to a four way tie. Officially the stupidest lynch I have ever seen. I'm actually with fz. Considering asking for a replacement. Are the civs even trying to win? I feel alone. Scummiest scum to ever scum is you, Golden. I'm feeling my life spiral out of control I swapped to MM to break the tie... I figured as long as it wasn't JJJ or FZ. I don't care, I've never seen anything like this, and am glad to be a part of it. :beer: I'm with Metalmarsh. Mac, one day you will go through a game never doubting I'm civ. That's the time I'll actually be bad. Oh wait, that already described our entire mafia history. The civs only tool is the lynch. Leave it to chance and you are literally giving your only tool away. May as well have not had a lynch and given the mafia an extra nk...

I don't believe it. We actually went to a four way tie. Officially the stupidest lynch I have ever seen. I'm actually with fz. Considering asking for a replacement. Are the civs even trying to win? I feel alone...

Having a 4 way tie is the most stupid thing ever. Nothing to be learned from it. A three way tie would somehow be okay, but a 4 way tie is just helping the baddies ... Oh, look, Golden blinked. Yep. Sorry if anyone was ever under any illusions that I wouldn't follow through. Ties are stupid...

I'm actually thinking of leaving the votes like that instead of saving myself. There are so many people I wish would just shut up. Will it do it? Lol I will move my vote off you at the last second on to a random candidate and leave it as a 3 way tie. How bout that? Yes, because no foreseeable vote shenanigans. It's only the bloody Champies game, after all. This. To fuck with the tie would be to play into the hand's of scum that are wondering if they should even touch this lynch, with 1 in 4 odds should any of their people be among the four. Okay fine. Four way tie it is. FZ will fuck with it of course. No, I will...

This is ridiculous. The fz bandwagon is as contrived as the jay one. So many people seeing her as a top town read. I'm certainly not. :confused2: No, but don't you think people, generally speaking, should take on board the opinion of others? Is vote jj ahead of voting fz. You sound scared. This is funny. Not scared. I just feel helpless to be understand a town that seems to want to lynch townies...

This is ridiculous. The fz bandwagon is as contrived as the jay one. So many people seeing her as a top town read. I'm certainly not. :confused2: No, but don't you think people, generally speaking, should take on board the opinion of others? Is vote jj ahead of voting fz...

This is ridiculous. The fz bandwagon is as contrived as the jay one. So many people seeing her as a top town read...

re whoever is wondering why lots of people voted lorab yesterday but not today... It's because yesterday, lots of us were finding a consensus candidate to save jj. I'll vote lorab to the same end of it comes to it, but I think mm is a good bet. He really is playing like dune mm. :haha: Ok, describe in two sentences what Dune MM played like. I'll do it in one. Absent of useful contribution...

re whoever is wondering why lots of people voted lorab yesterday but not today... It's because yesterday, lots of us were finding a consensus candidate to save jj. I'll vote lorab to the same end of it comes to it, but I think mm is a good bet. He really is playing like dune mm...

Have you? Go ahead, Golden, ask him "direct questions". Bring him to us. Get him "more involved". No, and I have no intention of doing so. I don't need to see anything more from tranq to know he is so far down my potential baddie list as to be a non factor for at least several phases. I was speaking to those who seem to think he is a good choice for a lynch just because, even though those who know tranq well are pointing you in the direction that it's nothing to worry about. @br - I voted mm because I think he is bad. It's not necessarily my final vote. I buy jjs point on ninja, consider me pinged by her. @bea - sorry it's hard for me to go back and point out specific votes without much time and on a phone, but let's just say that overall I am pinged by every single jay vote that came in after lorab hit about 4 votes, other than perhaps hb. I like fzs points on Draco. Sticking with mm for now but aiming to check in once more before the deadline...

I've spent pretty much all of my free time playing The Binding of Isaac recently. Sorry. Rather than wasting a vote, i've decided to give my vote to Ricochet until i'm able to make informed decisions. Ricochet, my vote is yours. Who should i vote for? Oh and don't Arya me :p Please can we all lynch Tranq today. Let's reach across the aisle here and bury this chump. I'm not going to reach across that aisle. If someone like me was that quiet, I can see it. Tranq tends to get more involved later. By the way, has anyone engaged tranq with direct questions? I tend to find he will answer them even when he doesn't do much proactive input...

Also, I'd still vote lorab. People called her lynch wagon as though jay was getting saved but I wouldn't be at all surprised if some of the late jay voters were saving lorab...

That's about all I have time for today. Voting mm. I think he is much quieter than usual, like in dune. But also, when he has contributed, I've found quite a few of those contributions suspect. I'll try to get back before deadline...

I'd actually be ok seeing Sorsha or LoRab lynched. So because I suspect you (weakly) for a reason you don't agree with? Not really. Just that I'm not really getting a civ Sorsha vibe this game. Of course, I'm not exactly known as being good at reading you. Could you expand on this? If it's a gut thing I understand but I am interested in your view point regarding Sorsha. I have exactly no opinion on her at his point but I am thinking of doing a read on her posts because you brought her up. I would also like to add I don't like that second line. It's a little non-committal scum like. I might do a read on you as well. I just wish you didn't have so many damn posts. Not really sorry because it's so gut based and while away I can't go back and read world reborn to compare or anything. I guess it's similar to why I don't think I can put into words why I trust you beyond saying this is the civ br I remember. Linki it turned into three lol, the third one was less about why I think jay is civ but rather about the case others are making but it is true...

Golden, why do you feel so strongly about JJJ? Two things 1) his emotive response scans with my experience of civ jay who doesn't feel he has proper time to defend himself. Without the time and ability to defend himself as he would like, he gets frustrated at the suspicion. I haven't seen baddie jay much at all, but I remember the mafia champs final he seemed to handle suspicion much more calmly. 2) I still don't see why he would have moved the lynch away from llama yesterday, if bad. He drew attention to himself while leading the lynch by making a case on boomslang, when he could have been less loud and stuck with an existing suspicion with llama. Sure, jay survived, but still... 3) perhaps I don't understand the case on jay, but I haven't seen anything particularly compelling about the case on him. I could well be wrong, if so mea culpa. I just don't think I am...

That's where you and me disagree. I think a lot of useful information can be had by reading the players and knowing the players. I also like to read the hosts. It's useful, not dumb. I concur with this sentiment. It's a part of meta. And I agree hosts have hosting meta too. It's a useful tool to solve the game...

Well you're all losers. FZ. is not Mafia because she replaced Elohcin. Elohcin loves BTSC. She wouldn't quit if she had it. She'd be in there talking about...kids and bedspreads or some shit. But the fact is she's out. FZ. is a alone. You're welcome. Ah yes, FZ is good because Elohcin is your wife. Hang on a tick, did anyone else get deja vu just now? Yes, but déjà vu to epi being correct in the past...

Hb I don't buy that Jj was on zebras team. Possible but unlikely. Sorry posting from phone only now. Very few, short posts. I would still prefer not to lynch jj, but also recognise at some point that if opinion is so determined in one direction, it may need to happen just to move on. Under protest, from my perspective...

HB did post a number in his subsequent post, epi, without any further prompting from you. Boomslang, you should check but I think your curse is over, based on SVS clarification earlier. Although I disagree that 'leading people astray' is more culpable than 'being lead astray'. I would, because I tend to lead not follow. But, I think either can indicate a level of culpability. Each person is responsible for where they put their vote, whatever their reasons are. Baddies might intentionally lead a mislynch on someone. Baddie might intentionally blend in and intentionally 'be lead astray' by someone they know isn't going after someone on their team...

I thought that was exclusively directed to me. I don't see others posting numbers either. Are you being serious right now? I took it at that way too. When epi talked about people failing his test, I still hadn't even put two and two together that he was talking about the number thing...

What do you mean by position related power? Meaning if they only had a lynch-cancel because they were in a specific position, using it today would not impact use of it on a later day. (I'm talking about positions as described in Zebra's role, in case that was the confusing part.) I guess this is possible, not that we have any evidence either way. But if this theory were to turn out to be evidenced in a role reveal later, I guarantee that JJ's lynch train would have teammates on it...

Jimmy A moment ago, your vote for Jimmy was primarily comparative, in that you'd perhaps have voted for others (eg sorsha) before voting for him. So why are you immediately voting for him again? linki @marmot Oh, Bowie :( Rickman :( Because Jimmy was leading and if he's scum and his team can stop a lynch, why not this one? And if he is civ and his ability is to survive a death, why not survive this one? Stopping a lynch is hardly predominately a scum ability. I'll admit though... I'm interested in JJ's reaction too, because I think you are more likely to fight to avoid using up your ability if it is a team ability and you can only use it on one person. If I'm town and can survive a lynch, I probably make it more clear that I can survive and put less effort into not being lynched than JJ did. Sorry, a what? Like, if one person in a team has a lynch stop, you can use it to successfully save anyone in your team. As opposed to just yourself...

Jimmy A moment ago, your vote for Jimmy was primarily comparative, in that you'd perhaps have voted for others (eg sorsha) before voting for him. So why are you immediately voting for him again? linki @marmot Oh, Bowie :( Rickman :( Because Jimmy was leading and if he's scum and his team can stop a lynch, why not this one? And if he is civ and his ability is to survive a death, why not survive this one? Stopping a lynch is hardly predominately a scum ability. I'll admit though... I'm interested in JJ's reaction too, because I think you are more likely to fight to avoid using up your ability if it is a team ability and you can only use it on one person. If I'm town and can survive a lynch, I probably make it more clear that I can survive and put less effort into not being lynched than JJ did...

Golden, are you a member of mafia? Nope, but I think you might be...

Jimmy A moment ago, your vote for Jimmy was primarily comparative, in that you'd perhaps have voted for others (eg sorsha) before voting for him. So why are you immediately voting for him again? linki @marmot Oh, Bowie :( Rickman :(...

But Mac promised me day 3.1! :suspish...

For Syndicaters, is it usually in the case of a double-day that any effects (e.g. silencing) on day X.0 would carry over to X.1? Yes, I was cursed in Flash Mafia, and it carried over from Day 4.1 to Day 4.2. Are you ok, marmot? You seem to have a massive gash on your head.....

For Syndicaters, is it usually in the case of a double-day that any effects (e.g. silencing) on day X.0 would carry over to X.1? I wouldn't expect so...

And rico, I apologise if I gave you the impression that you shouldn't be critical of tranqs play. You definitely could be. Me defending it as 'standard tranq' was entirely unrelated to the rest of what happened...