[END] Pet Sounds Mafia

[Tranq]

Sure why not.

Revenge-vote for Choutas.

[Tangrowth]

3.5 hours remain in Day 1.

[Boomslang]

Sure why not.

Revenge-vote for Choutas.

Is this purely a revenge vote? Or do you have another reason? If just the former, that's not a strong support for your civility.

[Enrique]

Tranq

[Luke11646]

Im voting for bcornnet at the moment

[Marmot]

MM, have you marked any players as "not voting for?" yet?

No. Well actually yes now, I'm not voting for FZ.

Recruitment was actually the first time I used that strategy (and tbh, it was for the lulz). It would be easier work to narrow the field in a small game like this, but probably not the best strategy.

[Marmot]

I'm voting no lynch for the moment, might change later

I think this needs to change, no day one votes is a horrible idea Luke11646

Bcornett is getting his wish.

[Marmot]

What? what am I plating off? I was being predatory, that's not a question, my goal, avoid no lynch, ezpz bb.

I'm really confused by this post in particular. Seems like you're throwing off a lot of short phrases, a breathless defense of yourself. Possibly a little more worried than you should be.

I responded that way due to not fully understanding his statement. The term plating, I only realized now may have been the word playing, and that threw me for a loop :P I also, don't think I was defending myself, more so explaining what I'm doing. If I were defending myself, it would be more like "your suspicion of me is wrong because I'm trying to avoid a no lynch." Instead, I don't see his suspicion as wrong, just rather not well made.

I spy a tranq!

Linki - I'm not sure, I would like to hear from MM, bcornett, floyd and luke at this point. Maybe vote them and force some explanations?

Doctor! What would you like me to explain?

[bea]

Voting bcorrrnt if something better comes along before the lynch ends and I have time to see it I will vote tbere. For now it's Friday rush....

[Marmot]

Voting bcorrrnt if something better comes along before the lynch ends and I have time to see it I will vote tbere. For now it's Friday rush....

Rush?

[Boomslang]

This swell of support for a bcornett vote feels too convenient. I'm going to keep my vote on Tranq until I hear something more satisfactory.

[Marmot]

I'll join you on Tranq

[bcornett24]

I'm working on a response.

[DrWilgy]

Doctor! What would you like me to explain?

You're good Marmott friend.

To everyone, do you feel that lynching Tranq would be considered easy or hard? Placing a vote on a non-playing player seems pretty easy to me.

How does the masses feel about Boomslang at this point?

[Tranq]

Rude. I'm in the top 10 posters this game!

[DrWilgy]

Shame everyone showed up while I was at dinner, we may have had more time to discuss. Let's have these 2 hours count.

Tranq, do you consider yourself an easy lynch? What qualifies as an easy lynch?

[Tranq]

That's a silly question. If i move my vote to bcornett24, it would be 6 to 3, so i'd have to answer with a no.

[DrWilgy]

Ok then... What do you think about the people on your wagon?

[Boomslang]

Rude. I'm in the top 10 posters this game!

Ha.

Wilgy, your defense of Tranq is getting fishy. Obviously the man is playing; he's reading posts and making responses. He's not a "non-playing player," he's a player who hasn't answered a direct questions: why the Choutas vote other than simple revenge?

[bcornett24]

<-- Listening to Pet Sounds right now, love this album, good stuff.

Vote explanation:

I voted for Luke11646 because of this:

I'm voting no lynch for the moment, might change later

So after we've discussed no lynch being a not particularly civ-friendly option, as well as established that changeable votes make throwing one out early not a big deal, you still go for the no lynch? Why so?

In fact, I'll throw my hat—er, vote—in the ring to draw some discussion.

Luke didn't respond until after I had already left for the night.

This is his response to Boomslang's statement

I'm voting no lynch for the moment, might change later

So after we've discussed no lynch being a not particularly civ-friendly option, as well as established that changeable votes make throwing one out early not a big deal, you still go for the no lynch? Why so?

In fact, I'll throw my hat—er, vote—in the ring to draw some discussion.

I've been busy lately and I haven't had time to read the thread until now so I just voted to say that I was here so that people wouldn't vote for me just because I wasn't here.

Then he votes for me with no explanation. I understand being busy, but based on his statement he just voted to feign activity which makes this even more suspicious.

@ Luke11646 I assume this is omgus? I would love an explanation.



This seems to have escalated quickly during my time at work, I stepped in while I was at work briefly and read a few posts and am now able to respond. Not quite sure why there is a scumwagon on me...

@ FZ. - How is opportunistic to vote for somebody who votes for no vote after a discussion of how no vote creates a bad situation for town? Your logic here seems a little backwards. After this he states he was faking activity because he was busy, why not say, hey I'm busy and will try and read shortly, it makes no sense to me. So then you place a vote on me with this backwards logic and then state you wont be around today, gotta love it.

I won't be on much today.

I found bcornett's post about Luke to be opportunistic, and don't get a good vibe from him. My vote goes there for now. Another possibility is Bullzeye for the same reasons.
Wilgy sounds fine to me.

I won't be back until the end of the day, so I'm leaving my vote on bcornett. It's the best I have for day 1. I hope more people come and talk.

This makes me feel a bit better about your vote for me.



@a2thezebra,

Spoiler: show

Boomslang, Luke is pretty new to Mafia just so you know. He's played a few games but I think he's still getting the grasp of it.

Fair enough, and I'll take that under consideration. Still, even if he's new, he's had the same chance to study the thread and its arguments as the rest of us. The vote did come after all of that naysaying, so to ignore it is still making a statement.

he's so new...are you sure he read the thread and digested it like he should have??

And I"m going to correct matt too. He's not played "a few games'" he's played one. Epi's speed game- in which he's prolly going to be lynched.

He's as new and green as they come near as I can tell boom.

That's the thing. There's no scum motivation for ignoring the arguments against a No Lynch. If he didn't read the thread, he didn't read the thread. It ain't a big deal. And if he's bad and he did read the thread, what could he possibly have to gain by trying to sway the town in favor of a No Lynch when clearly no one would support him? I'm more suspicious of those that are looking at his No Lynch post as an opportunity.

And Wilgy, Choutas' No Lynch vote is unexplained. And he's no stranger to the game. That's something to raise an eyebrow to indeed...that is until he changed it to Tranq. I think it was just a placeholder since his initial vote was rendered moot and he had no other pings at the time. I believe you're response and that you weren't trying to start a wagon so I'll switch my vote to the most opportunistic of the Luke voters, bcornett. I don't buy bcornett's reasoning at all.

bcornett24

You don't have to buy my reasoning. But I will say your vote contains as much bullshit as mine if you used the same logic. I believe you a wagon is not a wagon! Opportunistic wagon much?



@ DrWilgy

When did I say I was trying to get a wagon going? It was just unfortunate that you already had a vote when you described no lynch as awesome, that's all. Plus we did get something good out of it, luke's questionable vote, that I would like to hear about in detail from him.

Ah! New game! Ok.

MM and Matt, since we don't have btsc yet, I'll ask something here. Which civ are we going to try to get a lynch wagon on today?

You started one on me by just asking me a question which I wasn't around to answer from work, though I do not think this was intentional. Ironically though, Matt F is actually on it... If somebody were to look back and take this with any seriousness, Matt has made you look really bad here.

Hmm... I also don't like Luke's vote... Meh, staying on Choutas for now.

Do you agree with what I said above about Luke's vote?

Ok, I'm a dummy, so...

Bcornett, what answer did/do you expect out of Enrique?

A response of any sort, but was apparently I was ignored. If there is one thing that I consistently do through all games, I like to reaction hunt.

Come on Choutas, let's get 9,000 posts in this game. You and me.

If you manage to do that I will be immensely impressed.

Does anyone find Zebra changing her vote a number of times somewhat suspicious?

Linki - I second bcornett's statement about keeping posts to a minimum.

@ Floyd - I never said anything about keeping posts to a minimum. I said I do not want to deal with the same post amount as last game. If post count is low it becomes very difficult to make reads on players.



Of everything that happened while I was gone I find Matt F, Bea, and Luke's votes for me to be the most suspicious as Matt F and Bea are basically saying they are voting for me because it is convient and Luke didn't even give a reason.

[DrWilgy]

Since when am I defending Tranq?

[Tranq]

why the Choutas vote other than simple revenge?

I asked who to vote for and DrWilgy responded.

Two Pets in one Sound.

[DrWilgy]

why the Choutas vote other than simple revenge?

I asked who to vote for and DrWilgy responded.

Two Pets in one Sound.

Out of all that I named why Chou?

[Tranq]

Chou is the 2nd Pet

[DrWilgy]

@ DrWilgy

When did I say I was trying to get a wagon going? It was just unfortunate that you already had a vote when you described no lynch as awesome, that's all. Plus we did get something good out of it, luke's questionable vote, that I would like to hear about in detail from him.

Ah! New game! Ok.

MM and Matt, since we don't have btsc yet, I'll ask something here. Which civ are we going to try to get a lynch wagon on today?

You started one on me by just asking me a question which I wasn't around to answer from work, though I do not think this was intentional. Ironically though, Matt F is actually on it... If somebody were to look back and take this with any seriousness, Matt has made you look really bad here.

Hmm... I also don't like Luke's vote... Meh, staying on Choutas for now.

Do you agree with what I said above about Luke's vote?

Ok, I'm a dummy, so...

Bcornett, what answer did/do you expect out of Enrique?

A response of any sort, but was apparently I was ignored. If there is one thing that I consistently do through all games, I like to reaction hunt.

Bcornett, you are making it hard to not want to vote for you I never tried to start a wagon, even more, so I never even looked in your direction so far. The first quote here from me was addressing Enrique, not you. Is it less ironic now that Matt wants to lynch you?

Not really... I see your vote for luke as your own decision (which I suppose is irrelevant due to no mafia btsc yet), but not a very good one if you are town.

would you mind referencing other forms of reaction hunting in other games you have been in?

[DrWilgy]

Mafia prediction day 1: Zebra, Boomslang, and Choutas

[Boomslang]

Since when am I defending Tranq?

Placing a vote on a non-playing player seems pretty easy to me.

[bcornett24]

I know you never tried to start one but your questioning of me seems to be what my votes are based around, it is just ironic that Matt F is part of it. Which would actually make him look like he is potentially trying to set you up.

Why is my vote bad? I see nothing wrong with voting for players using faulty logic.

I'll reference in a bit will tkae some linkage.

[DrWilgy]

Boomslang, Luke is pretty new to Mafia just so you know. He's played a few games but I think he's still getting the grasp of it.

Fair enough, and I'll take that under consideration. Still, even if he's new, he's had the same chance to study the thread and its arguments as the rest of us. The vote did come after all of that naysaying, so to ignore it is still making a statement.

he's so new...are you sure he read the thread and digested it like he should have??

And I"m going to correct matt too. He's not played "a few games'" he's played one. Epi's speed game- in which he's prolly going to be lynched.

He's as new and green as they come near as I can tell boom.

That's the thing. There's no scum motivation for ignoring the arguments against a No Lynch. If he didn't read the thread, he didn't read the thread. It ain't a big deal. And if he's bad and he did read the thread, what could he possibly have to gain by trying to sway the town in favor of a No Lynch when clearly no one would support him? I'm more suspicious of those that are looking at his No Lynch post as an opportunity.

And Wilgy, Choutas' No Lynch vote is unexplained. And he's no stranger to the game. That's something to raise an eyebrow to indeed...that is until he changed it to Tranq. I think it was just a placeholder since his initial vote was rendered moot and he had no other pings at the time. I believe you're response and that you weren't trying to start a wagon so I'll switch my vote to the most opportunistic of the Luke voters, bcornett. I don't buy bcornett's reasoning at all.

bcornett24

So here's the thing about Zebra, how can a civilian "believe" something in this kind of gamestate? "Choutas' No Lynch vote being unexplained" feels as if he's trying to buddy up on me, while distancing from Choutas while not committing to it. Why not implore Choutas?

Also, he had gone in on me seeing me as opportunistic. Don't the concept of thinking I was opportunistic and then "believing" in me contradict one another?

Also looking at the votes from earlier to now:


All 3 of my suspected mafia list were spread out, quite safely, if I had to be a judge, and now one of them had moved over to the second highest wagon, that probably won't take off at the rate that it's going. Is it so they look good not being on a possible civvy mislynch? maybe.

Voting for Zebra currently.

Liki @boomslang - Asking how easy it is to lynch someone isn't defending them silly. I just think it's easy. I also think bcornett is an easy lynch.

linki linki @bcornett - I just don't agree with it. I suppose personal preference goes into this one. I'll review it though, and see if my opinion changes in afew min.

[DrWilgy]

I think a CFD on Zebra would be pretty tactical currently. What does everyone else think?

[Tranq]

I had to google that but ok.

[DrWilgy]

google what?

[Tranq]

CFD

[Tangrowth]

DAY 1

Who murdered the sock?

Poll ended at Fri Nov 13, 2015 8:10:10 pm


a2thezebra
2
DrWilgy (19), Tranq (20) 10%
bcornett24
5
FZ. (10), a2thezebra (12), Matt F (13), Luke11646 (16), bea (17) 25%
bea
0
No votes
Boomslang
0
No votes
Choutas
0
No votes
DrWilgy
1
Enrique (9) 5%
Enrique
0
No votes
FZ.
0
No votes
Luke11646
2
bcornett24 (7), TheFloyd73 (8) 10%
Matt F
0
No votes
Metalmarsh89
0
No votes
TheFloyd73
0
No votes
Tranq
3
Choutas (11), Boomslang (15), Metalmarsh89 (18) 15%
NO LYNCH
0
No votes
Villains (host, non-players)
7
MovingPictures07 (1), Golden (2), JaggedJimmyJay (3), S~V~S (4), Epignosis (5), Black Rock (6), Sloonei (14) 35%
Total votes : 20

[Tangrowth]

"Brian C. No"

Where did your lizard avy go
Where is the flame I used to know
How could you lose that happy glow
Oh, Brian C. no

Who took that sig away
I remember how you used to say
You'd never change, but that's not true
Oh, Brian C. you

Break my heart
I want to go and cry
It's so sad to watch a Pokemon die
Oh, Brian C. why

Could I ever find in you again
The things that made me love your civility then
Could we ever bring it back once it has gone
Oh, Brian C. no


bcornett24 has been lynched. He was a vanilla civilian and "Caroline No".

It is now Night 1. You have 24 hours to silently mourn the death of bcornett24. If you are the cop, send in your PM. If you are the mafia, send in your kill.

[Tangrowth]

"Wouldn't It Be Nice (for the Mafia)"

Wouldn't it be nice if we were copless
Then we wouldn't have our role cards read
And wouldn't it be nice to kill so stressless
In the kind of world with the cop long dead

You know its gonna make it that much better
When we can tell the cop goodnight forever

Wouldn't it be nice if we could wake up
In the morning when the day is new
And after having spent the night together
High five each other since the cop is through

Happy times together we've been spending
I wish that every kill was neverending
Wouldn't it be nice

Maybe if we think and wish and hope and pray it might come true
Teamie then there wouldn't be a single thing we couldn't do
We could be copless
And then we'd be happy

Wouldn't it be nice

You know it seems the more we talk about it
It only makes it worse to live without it
But let's talk about it
Wouldn't it be nice



FZ. has been killed by the mafia. She was the cop and "Wouldn't It Be Nice".

It is now Day 2. You have 48 hours to lynch someone.

[bea]

RIP bcorrat and FZ.

You guys - I'm sick. I really need two days in bed but there's no one to cover for me. I'm fortifying with a hot toddy and some chicken soup and soooo many cold meds. Long story short, my brain cells are even weaker than normal right now.

[Marmot]

The mafia are jerks. FZ can't rolecheck them if she's dead.

[DrWilgy]

This game just entered hard mode.

[a2thezebra]

MM, have you marked any players as "not voting for?" yet?

No. Well actually yes now, I'm not voting for FZ.

Recruitment was actually the first time I used that strategy (and tbh, it was for the lulz). It would be easier work to narrow the field in a small game like this, but probably not the best strategy.

Why not, Marsh?

[a2thezebra]

Correction: Metalmarsh89

[Marmot]

MM, have you marked any players as "not voting for?" yet?

No. Well actually yes now, I'm not voting for FZ.

Recruitment was actually the first time I used that strategy (and tbh, it was for the lulz). It would be easier work to narrow the field in a small game like this, but probably not the best strategy.

Why not, Marsh?

Because she confused Boomslang and Bullzeye. I saw that as a sign of a civ.

[a2thezebra]

I'm sure you did.

[Marmot]

I'm starting with a Matt F vote.

Linki: I did. Do you not believe me? I see that you don't.

[DrWilgy]

Counting up FZ's interactions and he uses the following names or addresses the following:
Enrique: III
Bcornett: III
Boomslang: II
Luke: II
Zebra: I

Me: II

I won't be back until the end of the day, so I'm leaving my vote on bcornett. It's the best I have for day 1. I hope more people come and talk.

Yeah... Me too.

Voting for Zebra again.

[Marmot]

FZ is a she.

[a2thezebra]

Are you bad, MM?

linki: FZ is a lady and I am a civilian.
linki: DAMN IT

[DrWilgy]

FZ is a she.

Dammit, why am I so bad at that. I'm sorry FZ, forgive me and my ungentlemanly behavior.

[Marmot]

No, I'm a vanilla civ.

How did you come up with that quote so quickly after the day began?

[DrWilgy]

And, why are you so concerned about MM, when I tried to lead a CFD on you before the day ended?