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Re: [DAY 5] Parks and Recreation Mafia
If you guys would trust me just this one time, you would see that I am not mafia and Ben is. When I flip civ, go after Ben next. Don't let him weasel his way out of it.
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Hey peeps.
I'm subbing in. No chance I'll read the game, so who wants to make the most convincing case for who I should vote for? I want the town to win, so I'm relying on you guys to link me to some good cases!
I can't believe anyone lynched Leslie Knope. LESLIE KNOPE! That right there is where you will find baddies, I bet. Who would lynch her.
Everyone I know from P&R is dead.
I'm subbing in. No chance I'll read the game, so who wants to make the most convincing case for who I should vote for? I want the town to win, so I'm relying on you guys to link me to some good cases!
I can't believe anyone lynched Leslie Knope. LESLIE KNOPE! That right there is where you will find baddies, I bet. Who would lynch her.
Everyone I know from P&R is dead.
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Set aside your worries, ladies, and come bathe with me in the dead red of the Santa sled.notsawyer540 wrote:Ron Swanson is really Duke Silver!
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In the words of FLO RIDA: this game "spins my head right round, RIGHT ROUND!"
I'm not sure WHO to trust at this point...so lets do a li'l brickety-brackety-bippity-boppity-BREAKDOWN!!!
Day 4 started out with a Leslie post saying Chris and Jerry were trying to distance themselves and she was the lead-off voter against Jer-bear...Bobby followed it up saying he called chris bad and that leslie was his partner...andy then said to lynch jerry first, then leslie...jerry made 2 single-line statements: ben bad, don't lynch me...ben parks a vote for jerry...Donna questions Bobby's and andy's suspicions of leslie...they both respond...I provide an amuse-bouche of Leslie's previous posts...ron agrees with my conclusion...jerry attacks ben more but vote leslie for self-preservation...
That's basically how day 4 started...when it got closer to the end, bobby says he thinks between ben and Jerry (OMG...LIKE THE ICE CREAM DUDES!!!), ben is bad, but later doesn't like a comment Jerry makes ...
in her dying words leslies make sthe following statements:
there's a Chris, Jerry Donna connnection.
If she's wrong about donna, then look to ben...and also ben has been cheating on her???...
Here's what concerns me...Andy was against leslie from the beginning and when we find out she's civ, he locks down just as hard on Jerry, whom he has also said is bad for almost as long. If he was wrong about Leslie, couldn't he be wrong about Jerry too?
Ben is in favor of lynching jerry, but apparently Leslie had some mild suspicions of Ben...so is it possible that Ben and Andy are the two mafia we are looking for and Jerry is their easy target?...But Leslie also thought Jerry and Donna are the last 2 baddies...
Bobby and Jerry seem to be both distancing themsleves while supporting each other...could this be the bad team-up?
and just to make sure no stone is left unturned, the former-bff-formerly-known-as-TomHaverford is basically a non-participant who could possibly be in cahoots with a talkative participant as the baddie team....
Looking through all, the scenarios, the name I see grabbing the most headlines here is Jerry...so I think that's where my votes gonna go...
linki: speak of the Devil WEaring Prada...!
I'm not sure WHO to trust at this point...so lets do a li'l brickety-brackety-bippity-boppity-BREAKDOWN!!!
Day 4 started out with a Leslie post saying Chris and Jerry were trying to distance themselves and she was the lead-off voter against Jer-bear...Bobby followed it up saying he called chris bad and that leslie was his partner...andy then said to lynch jerry first, then leslie...jerry made 2 single-line statements: ben bad, don't lynch me...ben parks a vote for jerry...Donna questions Bobby's and andy's suspicions of leslie...they both respond...I provide an amuse-bouche of Leslie's previous posts...ron agrees with my conclusion...jerry attacks ben more but vote leslie for self-preservation...
That's basically how day 4 started...when it got closer to the end, bobby says he thinks between ben and Jerry (OMG...LIKE THE ICE CREAM DUDES!!!), ben is bad, but later doesn't like a comment Jerry makes ...
in her dying words leslies make sthe following statements:
there's a Chris, Jerry Donna connnection.
If she's wrong about donna, then look to ben...and also ben has been cheating on her???...
Here's what concerns me...Andy was against leslie from the beginning and when we find out she's civ, he locks down just as hard on Jerry, whom he has also said is bad for almost as long. If he was wrong about Leslie, couldn't he be wrong about Jerry too?
Ben is in favor of lynching jerry, but apparently Leslie had some mild suspicions of Ben...so is it possible that Ben and Andy are the two mafia we are looking for and Jerry is their easy target?...But Leslie also thought Jerry and Donna are the last 2 baddies...
Bobby and Jerry seem to be both distancing themsleves while supporting each other...could this be the bad team-up?
and just to make sure no stone is left unturned, the former-bff-formerly-known-as-TomHaverford is basically a non-participant who could possibly be in cahoots with a talkative participant as the baddie team....
Looking through all, the scenarios, the name I see grabbing the most headlines here is Jerry...so I think that's where my votes gonna go...
linki: speak of the Devil WEaring Prada...!
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If you scroll up, you'll see my case against Jerry. It's quite long, so there's a handy TL;DR version available.Tom Haverford wrote:Hey peeps.
I'm subbing in. No chance I'll read the game, so who wants to make the most convincing case for who I should vote for? I want the town to win, so I'm relying on you guys to link me to some good cases!
I can't believe anyone lynched Leslie Knope. LESLIE KNOPE! That right there is where you will find baddies, I bet. Who would lynch her.
Everyone I know from P&R is dead.
Here's Jerry's case against me:
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Jerry Gergich wrote:If you guys would trust me just this one time, you would see that I am not mafia and Ben is. When I flip civ, go after Ben next. Don't let him weasel his way out of it.
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Tom and JR-- both Ben and I have posted extensively on the past page or two about why Jerry/Donna are bad.
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(Please delete the above post. I knew I'd screw up at some point.)
Andy, GTH, if Donna is civ, who is the baddie out of Tom, Bobby, and Jean-Ralphio?
I myself would have to say Bobby.
Andy, GTH, if Donna is civ, who is the baddie out of Tom, Bobby, and Jean-Ralphio?
I myself would have to say Bobby.
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Didn't even see your screw up, dude!
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Like, really? Come on man! I ran a clean campaign and was pivotal in eliminating Chris. I'm really sorry about Leslie, but then again I'm kinda not sorry because she was the only things standing in between me and that one office (can't remember what exactly it's called at the moment). Cut me some slack!
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Reposting for Bobby to see.
Ben Wyatt wrote:QUESTION TIME!
Bobby, why do you suspect me? Is there anything I can respond to? What's your impression of one mister Jerry Gergich?
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I don't even get a cat.Ben Wyatt wrote:I just found this, and it needs to be shared.Spoiler: show
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Andy Dwyer wrote:Didn't even see your screw up, dude!
My secret identity remains a mystery...
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It was something you said on the first day. My top suspects were Chris and Leslie, and I remember you being third. I have to go back and look to find it.Ben Wyatt wrote:Reposting for Bobby to see.
Ben Wyatt wrote:QUESTION TIME!
Bobby, why do you suspect me? Is there anything I can respond to? What's your impression of one mister Jerry Gergich?
My trust of Jerry stems from something April said about him.
April Ludgate wrote:This also looks kind of like a civ slip, when he said Ben helped kill the cop (implying Ben's lynch vote was in part the cause of Craig dying, meaning Jerry forgot who the cop was).Jerry Gergich wrote:I agree with most of what April has said. She seems like a sweet kid. I will try to do a better job of posting more. I just get so forgetful. Chris would probably be my next suspect after Ben, as he shares the trying too hard vibe and helped kill the cop.
Of course this kind of derp can be faked, but that's not the vibe I get here.
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Ah ha, now I see what it was. It was the way you were quick to smear April for that time she said she was a Miller (like, what even is that? Is it like a Mason?), and I didn't like the way you treated Bill for taking the same stance you took regarding April's claim.
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Whenever anyone makes a bold claim like that on Day 1, I'm initially dubious. I admit, it took me a while to fully trust April. I was waiting to see if any other players came out strongly against her claim, because they may have a role which originates from a completely different setup than the Miller's. I explained this to Ron during D4.Bobby Newport wrote:Ah ha, now I see what it was. It was the way you were quick to smear April for that time she said she was a Miller (like, what even is that? Is it like a Mason?), and I didn't like the way you treated Bill for taking the same stance you took regarding April's claim.
All in all, I'd say it's about as bad as you joining the case against Leslie during D4.Ben Wyatt wrote:I assumed that if April was lying about her Miller claim, either a fellow civ would know so and attempt to fight it, or the mafia would try and cast doubt on it. I looked for the person with the biggest negative knee-jerk reaction, and found it in Bill.Ron Swanson wrote:Now tell me why your Day 1 casemaking appears so much of a stinker.
I thought that his hostility about April's claim came from more than healthy skepticism. I was wrong. I made connections in my head that were a result of me overthinking the game, not the actual game itself. And I made a wrong call.
Not sure what else I can say about it other than explaining my mistake and admitting fault.
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I'd ask you to read my case against him and weigh it against one moment of botched semantics.Bobby Newport wrote:My trust of Jerry stems from something April said about him.
April Ludgate wrote:This also looks kind of like a civ slip, when he said Ben helped kill the cop (implying Ben's lynch vote was in part the cause of Craig dying, meaning Jerry forgot who the cop was).Jerry Gergich wrote:I agree with most of what April has said. She seems like a sweet kid. I will try to do a better job of posting more. I just get so forgetful. Chris would probably be my next suspect after Ben, as he shares the trying too hard vibe and helped kill the cop.
Of course this kind of derp can be faked, but that's not the vibe I get here.
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I didn't join anything (certainly not any organizations with racist ties- that was absolutely a misunderstanding and only happened once).Ben Wyatt wrote:Whenever anyone makes a bold claim like that on Day 1, I'm initially dubious. I admit, it took me a while to fully trust April. I was waiting to see if any other players came out strongly against her claim, because they may have a role which originates from a completely different setup than the Miller's. I explained this to Ron during D4.Bobby Newport wrote:Ah ha, now I see what it was. It was the way you were quick to smear April for that time she said she was a Miller (like, what even is that? Is it like a Mason?), and I didn't like the way you treated Bill for taking the same stance you took regarding April's claim.
All in all, I'd say it's about as bad as you joining the case against Leslie during D4.Ben Wyatt wrote:I assumed that if April was lying about her Miller claim, either a fellow civ would know so and attempt to fight it, or the mafia would try and cast doubt on it. I looked for the person with the biggest negative knee-jerk reaction, and found it in Bill.Ron Swanson wrote:Now tell me why your Day 1 casemaking appears so much of a stinker.
I thought that his hostility about April's claim came from more than healthy skepticism. I was wrong. I made connections in my head that were a result of me overthinking the game, not the actual game itself. And I made a wrong call.
Not sure what else I can say about it other than explaining my mistake and admitting fault.
Bobby Newport wrote:And when I say the mafia should quit, I mean Leslie and Chris.
Leslie Knope wrote:I think we need to seriously debate the merits of not lynching anyone today. If we kill someone now and they turn out to be good, then those monsters who killed Lil Sebastian will kill again and we'll be down two good guys. Yes, there's a chance we can get one of the people responsible, but it's only a 1/5 possibility.These are the two most suspicious things in the world. If I could, I'd make an attack ad saying so. A really good powerful ad that talks about why a Leslie who wants to help the people she loves and the greatest city in the world (whatever that means) would entertain the thought of throwing out the only tool we have to eliminate the competition. I'd make a really awesome ad that talks about how Chris voted for somebody he almost forgot about, somebody he painted with a hollow claim of "could very much be an attempt." Like, what does that even mean? I mean, I could very much be attempting to run for office to get my dad off my back, and you'd be right, but you get my point.Chris Traeger wrote:Silly me, I almost forgot about Bill! He seems to be very preoccupied with you. Which could very much be an attempt to avoid discussion that might stray onto himself or a fellow evil teammate, if it is intentional. It would be nice to hear what he thinks of people other than the fresh breath of air that is April Ludgate. Otherwise I am inclined to put him on a list of suspects. Did that answer your question?
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Along with hiring the right DJ for the election party and getting my campaign advisor to reconsider finding a different job, it's on my list.Ben Wyatt wrote:I'd ask you to read my case against him and weigh it against one moment of botched semantics.Bobby Newport wrote:My trust of Jerry stems from something April said about him.
April Ludgate wrote:This also looks kind of like a civ slip, when he said Ben helped kill the cop (implying Ben's lynch vote was in part the cause of Craig dying, meaning Jerry forgot who the cop was).Jerry Gergich wrote:I agree with most of what April has said. She seems like a sweet kid. I will try to do a better job of posting more. I just get so forgetful. Chris would probably be my next suspect after Ben, as he shares the trying too hard vibe and helped kill the cop.
Of course this kind of derp can be faked, but that's not the vibe I get here.
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I trust Ben, so far. Ben looks best to me. Bobby looks good too. You guys may be at odds, but you both talk like civs. I think you should work together. Jean-Ralphio would be my third pick for a civ, I really like the specticism he is bringing to the Ben/Andy dynamic.
I don't trust Andy. Ben, why do you trust Andy? Bobby, do you trust Andy?
I do not think you have this game solved. I would not have been asked to sub in if you already know who the last two baddies are and you are about to lynch them.
I would say the baddies are two of Jerry, Andy, Donna. But not both of Jerry and Donna. That means Andy. And since Andy is pushing Jerry, Donna. I think Andy and Donna might be the baddies.
I don't understand why Jerry. Is there any reason I'm not aware of to rule some of these people out?
So far, based on what I've seen, I think Andy or Donna would be the right vote.
Of course, I could be really fucking this up and it is Jerry. But, I've been asked to sub in for a reason. Time to challenge you guys. Why isn't it Andy?
I don't trust Andy. Ben, why do you trust Andy? Bobby, do you trust Andy?
I do not think you have this game solved. I would not have been asked to sub in if you already know who the last two baddies are and you are about to lynch them.
I would say the baddies are two of Jerry, Andy, Donna. But not both of Jerry and Donna. That means Andy. And since Andy is pushing Jerry, Donna. I think Andy and Donna might be the baddies.
I don't understand why Jerry. Is there any reason I'm not aware of to rule some of these people out?
So far, based on what I've seen, I think Andy or Donna would be the right vote.
Of course, I could be really fucking this up and it is Jerry. But, I've been asked to sub in for a reason. Time to challenge you guys. Why isn't it Andy?
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Actually, looking back a bit around the Chris Traeger vote, I get the Jerry thing.
But I think it doesn't make Andy look any better.
Andy/Jerry could be possible.
But I think it doesn't make Andy look any better.
Andy/Jerry could be possible.
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Explain Day 4 with the context that you think I am bad and taht Donna is not.
I flipped on Leslie to lynch Jerry (who you think is bad)
Donna flipped on Leslie to save Jerry.
I flipped on Leslie to lynch Jerry (who you think is bad)
Donna flipped on Leslie to save Jerry.
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Why don't you trust Andy, Tom? You seem to have it out for him a little bit.Tom Haverford wrote:I trust Ben, so far. Ben looks best to me. Bobby looks good too. You guys may be at odds, but you both talk like civs. I think you should work together. Jean-Ralphio would be my third pick for a civ, I really like the specticism he is bringing to the Ben/Andy dynamic.
I don't trust Andy. Ben, why do you trust Andy? Bobby, do you trust Andy?
I do not think you have this game solved. I would not have been asked to sub in if you already know who the last two baddies are and you are about to lynch them.
I would say the baddies are two of Jerry, Andy, Donna. But not both of Jerry and Donna. That means Andy. And since Andy is pushing Jerry, Donna. I think Andy and Donna might be the baddies.
I don't understand why Jerry. Is there any reason I'm not aware of to rule some of these people out?
So far, based on what I've seen, I think Andy or Donna would be the right vote.
Of course, I could be really fucking this up and it is Jerry. But, I've been asked to sub in for a reason. Time to challenge you guys. Why isn't it Andy?
I trust Andy because we seem to have pretty similar reads on people, and I saw his case against Leslie, and subsequent case against Jerry as genuine.
I just feel like Andy has been on the level with me, while everyone else has been either inactive, or too swallowed up by RP.
I mean, I get it. You're RPing an annoying character. You don't need to play annoyingly too.
And by the way, here's why Jerry. Apparently, the massive wall post I dedicated to listing every single reason why I think Jerry is bad is "too long" and "too complicated" for people. It's Cones of Dunshire all over again.
Here's the TL;DR version.
Why do you think Jerry and Donna are incompatible as baddies? You may not be aware of it, but Donna saved Jerry's behind on Day 4, similar to how Chris, the only confirmed mafia, saved Jerry's behind on Day 2. I'm not 100% sold as seeing Donna as Jerry's teammate, a lot of that relies on whether or not she keeps to her word and votes Jerry today, but to completely ignore the angle is shortsighted.Ben Wyatt wrote:TL;DR VERSION:
Chris, the only confirmed mafia saved Jerry's ass Day 2. Donna saved Jerry's ass Day 4.
Jerry very rarely actually discusses any of his suspicions in actual detail. Or really anything at all.
He's been tunneling me since Day 1, and none of his arguments hold any water.
Jerry is not an easy lynch. The fact that he's narrowly managed to avoid death twice now proves it.
Just because you subbed in, which I pleaded for, BTW, doesn't mean that I'm wrong.I do not think you have this game solved. I would not have been asked to sub in if you already know who the last two baddies are and you are about to lynch them.
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Tom, you haven't really said anything specific about why you don't trust Andy. If there's something more to that other than gut, I'd like to hear it, because my gut is only reading civilian for him.
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Bobby Newport wrote:Along with hiring the right DJ for the election party and getting my campaign advisor to reconsider finding a different job, it's on my list.Ben Wyatt wrote:I'd ask you to read my case against him and weigh it against one moment of botched semantics.Bobby Newport wrote:My trust of Jerry stems from something April said about him.
April Ludgate wrote:This also looks kind of like a civ slip, when he said Ben helped kill the cop (implying Ben's lynch vote was in part the cause of Craig dying, meaning Jerry forgot who the cop was).Jerry Gergich wrote:I agree with most of what April has said. She seems like a sweet kid. I will try to do a better job of posting more. I just get so forgetful. Chris would probably be my next suspect after Ben, as he shares the trying too hard vibe and helped kill the cop.
Of course this kind of derp can be faked, but that's not the vibe I get here.
(me waiting for Bobby to read my ISO)
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Day 4 Final Vote Tally
Who is a murderer?
Poll ended at Fri Dec 02, 2016 7:12:27 pm
Andy Dwyer
0
No votes
Ben Wyatt
0
No votes
Bobby Newport
0
No votes
Donna Meagle
0
No votes
Jean-Ralphio
0
No votes
Jerry Gergich
4
Leslie Knope (3), Andy Dwyer (7), Ben Wyatt (8), Ron Swanson (15) 25%
Leslie Knope
4
Bobby Newport (5), Jean-Ralphio (9), Jerry Gergich (10), Donna Meagle (14) 25%
Ron Swanson
0
No votes
Tom Haverford
0
No votes
*Unvote*
0
No votes
*No Lynch*
0
No votes
Chris Traeger!!! (hosts, deadies, non-players)
8
Perd Hapley (1), MovingPictures07 (2), juliets (4), Spacedaisy (6), Scotty (11), notsawyer540 (12), G-Man (13), insertnamehere (16) 50%
Total votes : 16
Missing votes: Tom Haverford
Tom-- this makes no sense if I am bad.
Who is a murderer?
Poll ended at Fri Dec 02, 2016 7:12:27 pm
Andy Dwyer
0
No votes
Ben Wyatt
0
No votes
Bobby Newport
0
No votes
Donna Meagle
0
No votes
Jean-Ralphio
0
No votes
Jerry Gergich
4
Leslie Knope (3), Andy Dwyer (7), Ben Wyatt (8), Ron Swanson (15) 25%
Leslie Knope
4
Bobby Newport (5), Jean-Ralphio (9), Jerry Gergich (10), Donna Meagle (14) 25%
Ron Swanson
0
No votes
Tom Haverford
0
No votes
*Unvote*
0
No votes
*No Lynch*
0
No votes
Chris Traeger!!! (hosts, deadies, non-players)
8
Perd Hapley (1), MovingPictures07 (2), juliets (4), Spacedaisy (6), Scotty (11), notsawyer540 (12), G-Man (13), insertnamehere (16) 50%
Total votes : 16
Missing votes: Tom Haverford
Tom-- this makes no sense if I am bad.
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Re: [DAY 5] Parks and Recreation Mafia
So, i got called away from the game about 4 hours earlier than I was expecting to have to leave. Got home late, got 3 hours sleep and have been running ever since
It occurs to me that I ran out the door without voting. I'b back to do that quick. I admit I've not read since I last posted as I have been and continue to have to deal woth other priorities at the moment.
Voting Jerry. I'm sorry, this has been an even more busy than usual week.
It occurs to me that I ran out the door without voting. I'b back to do that quick. I admit I've not read since I last posted as I have been and continue to have to deal woth other priorities at the moment.
Voting Jerry. I'm sorry, this has been an even more busy than usual week.
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Re: [DAY 5] Parks and Recreation Mafia
I don't know who is bad. This kind of post is why I think you are bad. Why would you expect someone who just subbed in to 'explain day 4'. I wasn't there and obviously can't 'explain it', but I imagine it would be great for you if you could lynch your teammate Jerry and then have an ironclad reason to mislynch someone right after.Andy Dwyer wrote:Explain Day 4 with the context that you think I am bad and taht Donna is not.
I flipped on Leslie to lynch Jerry (who you think is bad)
Donna flipped on Leslie to save Jerry.
@Ben - I don't watch P&R so forget roleplaying. I'm calling it how I see it. I think Andy is buddying you. "I trust Andy because we seem to have pretty similar reads on people", "I just feel like Andy has been on the level with me" - I don't feel so. I read your interactions and I feel like Andy is taking advantage of you.
But, in the end, the case on Jerry is very strong, so I'll vote there first and then see what happens. It will give me more time to get my head in the game.
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Ps, Ben - me subbing in is pointless if everyone else is saying 'I've already got the game solved, I have no flexibility to even reconsider'.
Trust me, I didn't get asked to sub in because you had the game solved. I got asked to sub in because this game is looking like going to lylo to the host. He wouldn't have asked otherwise.
Trust me, I didn't get asked to sub in because you had the game solved. I got asked to sub in because this game is looking like going to lylo to the host. He wouldn't have asked otherwise.
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I've been trying to lynch Jerry for much longer than just today. It would be silly for me to do what you are purporting.
Surely you must understand how frustrating it is to me that you barge in here saying that I am bad, you're uninterested in past events, and suddenly you think me showing you evidence that Donna is likely Jerry's teammate(the fact that she saved his ass when it counted) is evidence that I am bad. This is all ass backwards.
Surely you must understand how frustrating it is to me that you barge in here saying that I am bad, you're uninterested in past events, and suddenly you think me showing you evidence that Donna is likely Jerry's teammate(the fact that she saved his ass when it counted) is evidence that I am bad. This is all ass backwards.
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How am I taking advantage of Ben? If anything, Ben is buddying me-- I just don't see Ben as bad. And haven't pretty much ever.
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Reminder:
Donna voted Leslie yesterday after civ reading her all game. This saved Jerry. Today she only voted him after it didn't matter who she voted for.
Donna voted Leslie yesterday after civ reading her all game. This saved Jerry. Today she only voted him after it didn't matter who she voted for.
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And apparently you went after Leslie all game and then pulled out when it was probably too late. A rather good way to frame someone else if Jerry is your teammate, no?Andy Dwyer wrote:Reminder:
Donna voted Leslie yesterday after civ reading her all game. This saved Jerry. Today she only voted him after it didn't matter who she voted for.
Absolutely. Especially if you felt you were on track to a baddie victory.Andy Dwyer wrote:Surely you must understand how frustrating it is to me that you barge in here saying that I am bad, you're uninterested in past events, and suddenly you think me showing you evidence that Donna is likely Jerry's teammate(the fact that she saved his ass when it counted) is evidence that I am bad. This is all ass backwards.
Well, not especially. You'd be frustrated no matter what. Why should that make me see you as civilian?
I disagree. Ben seems very townie to me. You... seem flighty and full of agenda. Actually, textbook me as baddie. You smell wrong.Andy Dwyer wrote:How am I taking advantage of Ben? If anything, Ben is buddying me-- I just don't see Ben as bad. And haven't pretty much ever.
It's just an impression for now. We'll see what happens with Jerry first, then I'll re-evaluate.
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Re: [DAY 5] Parks and Recreation Mafia
Ironically, how Tom is now acting towards Andy is pretty much the same way Andy acted towards Leslie. Tunnel vision and a stout refusal to interpret things in ways that don't lead up to baddie.
I view both Tom and Andy at this point as confused civs.
Jean-Ralphio also gets some brownie points from me, as he's had a steady point of view this entire game, and there's no real vote where I thought: "Why the hell did JR vote for that person?"
I can't say that for Donna and Bobby.
If Jerry is bad, and I will honestly be shocked if he was, I'd pursue Donna primarily. But, if she makes some logical and persuasive cases against another player, or a fellow citizen does something especially shady, I'd definitely be up for lynching them instead.
I'm less 100% sold on Donna's scumminess than I am with Jerry's, but she's still my top suspect going into Day 6, provided that I'm, y'know, alive.
I view both Tom and Andy at this point as confused civs.
Jean-Ralphio also gets some brownie points from me, as he's had a steady point of view this entire game, and there's no real vote where I thought: "Why the hell did JR vote for that person?"
I can't say that for Donna and Bobby.
If Jerry is bad, and I will honestly be shocked if he was, I'd pursue Donna primarily. But, if she makes some logical and persuasive cases against another player, or a fellow citizen does something especially shady, I'd definitely be up for lynching them instead.
I'm less 100% sold on Donna's scumminess than I am with Jerry's, but she's still my top suspect going into Day 6, provided that I'm, y'know, alive.
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fixedBen Wyatt wrote:If Jerry is bad, and I will honestly be shocked if he was NOT, I'd pursue Donna primarily. But, if she makes some logical and persuasive cases against another player, or a fellow citizen does something especially shady, I'd definitely be up for lynching them instead.
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dammitBen Wyatt wrote:fixedBen Wyatt wrote:If Jerry is bad, and I will honestly be shocked if he ISN'T, I'd pursue Donna primarily. But, if she makes some logical and persuasive cases against another player, or a fellow citizen does something especially shady, I'd definitely be up for lynching them instead.
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ok this isn't even funny anymore, it's just depressingBen Wyatt wrote:dammitBen Wyatt wrote:fixedBen Wyatt wrote:If Jerry isn't bad, and I will honestly be shocked if he is, I'd pursue Donna primarily during Day 6. But, if she makes some logical and persuasive cases against another player, or a fellow citizen does something especially shady, I'd definitely be up for lynching them instead.
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I'm the one with tunnel vision? I bring a new perspective and all you want to do is shut it down and call me confused.
I think not. I'm just trying to breathe some life into a game that - I cannot state this enough - I would not have been asked to be in if you had already had it solved. MP foresaw this game going to lylo, and knew the civs needed me to have any chance of winning, or he would not have asked me.
I don't know if Andy is bad or you are good. All I know is the two of you both have tunnel vision, and you are leading the thread to lylo. You should open your eyes to the possibility you are wrong.
Forget 'Donna making a case'. Clearly she isn't going to. Lean on JR. Lean on me. People who you might see signs of life in.
If Jerry is bad, I could be convinced that any of Andy, you or Bobby were the other, but I'm certain it isn't Donna. If Jerry is good, we are in big trouble, but in that case maybe Donna is a decent bet.
You seem very unwilling to allow any threat to Andy's game or to be open to the idea he could be bad. Why?
For me, the smart vote is Andy.
I think not. I'm just trying to breathe some life into a game that - I cannot state this enough - I would not have been asked to be in if you had already had it solved. MP foresaw this game going to lylo, and knew the civs needed me to have any chance of winning, or he would not have asked me.
I don't know if Andy is bad or you are good. All I know is the two of you both have tunnel vision, and you are leading the thread to lylo. You should open your eyes to the possibility you are wrong.
Forget 'Donna making a case'. Clearly she isn't going to. Lean on JR. Lean on me. People who you might see signs of life in.
If Jerry is bad, I could be convinced that any of Andy, you or Bobby were the other, but I'm certain it isn't Donna. If Jerry is good, we are in big trouble, but in that case maybe Donna is a decent bet.
You seem very unwilling to allow any threat to Andy's game or to be open to the idea he could be bad. Why?
For me, the smart vote is Andy.
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Voting Andy. That's what my gut is telling me to do.
No slight on Ben's case on Jerry, though, which I believe it both genuine and very good.
No slight on Ben's case on Jerry, though, which I believe it both genuine and very good.
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Absolutely not.Tom Haverford wrote:And apparently you went after Leslie all game and then pulled out when it was probably too late. A rather good way to frame someone else if Jerry is your teammate, no?Andy Dwyer wrote:Reminder:
Donna voted Leslie yesterday after civ reading her all game. This saved Jerry. Today she only voted him after it didn't matter who she voted for.
I voted for Jerry FIRST, if I remember correctly, on Day 4. If I wanted to bus my teammate, why would I do it in the way you're suggesting? Why wouldn't I lynch Leslie, not leave it up to donna, and then do it TODAY? That would give me a more consistent game view. However, I saw that Jerry was WAY more likely to be bad given the Chris flip and I just couldn't justify voting Leslie over Jerry at that point. Jerry has been saved twice. Once by a confirmed baddie. Once by someone who civ read Leslie all game and gave no reason to vote Leslie.
I'm just saying, you're telling me to not tell you to "explain" anything, but you subbed into a game and are ingoring facts.Tom Haverford wrote:Absolutely. Especially if you felt you were on track to a baddie victory.Andy Dwyer wrote:Surely you must understand how frustrating it is to me that you barge in here saying that I am bad, you're uninterested in past events, and suddenly you think me showing you evidence that Donna is likely Jerry's teammate(the fact that she saved his ass when it counted) is evidence that I am bad. This is all ass backwards.
Well, not especially. You'd be frustrated no matter what. Why should that make me see you as civilian?
Flightly? quantify that. how so?Tom Haverford wrote:I disagree. Ben seems very townie to me. You... seem flighty and full of agenda. Actually, textbook me as baddie. You smell wrong.Andy Dwyer wrote:How am I taking advantage of Ben? If anything, Ben is buddying me-- I just don't see Ben as bad. And haven't pretty much ever.
It's just an impression for now. We'll see what happens with Jerry first, then I'll re-evaluate.
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....you are ignoring every ounce of evidence we have in this game for a gut read that you can't substantiate because you haven't read the thread.Tom Haverford wrote:Voting Andy. That's what my gut is telling me to do.
No slight on Ben's case on Jerry, though, which I believe it both genuine and very good.
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I can think of at least two other reasons why MP would replace you.
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1) me and ben are the active civvies and we can't sway lynches on our own if we're the only two voting. that's not fair to us.
2) somehow donna isn't bad and you are.
2) somehow donna isn't bad and you are.
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Sorry Ben. I don't have time to read your book, but I'm sure it's probably interesting. I'll vote Jerry, since that's the will of the people, and he isn't in here fighting as though his life was on the line. Oh and hey, Democracy, right?Ben Wyatt wrote:Bobby Newport wrote:Along with hiring the right DJ for the election party and getting my campaign advisor to reconsider finding a different job, it's on my list.Ben Wyatt wrote:I'd ask you to read my case against him and weigh it against one moment of botched semantics.Bobby Newport wrote:My trust of Jerry stems from something April said about him.
April Ludgate wrote:This also looks kind of like a civ slip, when he said Ben helped kill the cop (implying Ben's lynch vote was in part the cause of Craig dying, meaning Jerry forgot who the cop was).Jerry Gergich wrote:I agree with most of what April has said. She seems like a sweet kid. I will try to do a better job of posting more. I just get so forgetful. Chris would probably be my next suspect after Ben, as he shares the trying too hard vibe and helped kill the cop.
Of course this kind of derp can be faked, but that's not the vibe I get here.
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'explain that', 'quantify that'. What are you, some kind of accountant? I don't need red tape and regulations.
I'm going on gut. You're reacting to me all wrong. Stop treating me like I've been in the game from the start. I don't know who voted for who when, and I don't give a crap. Give me old fashioned scum hunting. You smell bad.
linki - Andy, oh I read the thread. Every post. I just didn't live the context. I don't have to 'substantiate' why you are bad. I've seen what it looks like when vocal people take over the thread and lead it. You remind me of MP and Golden, always jumping on each others reads, that doesn't mean you are both good and it doesn't mean you are both right.
"I can think of at least two other reasons why MP would replace you" - well, I happen to have the advantage of knowing the 'because I am bad' one isn't correct. What's your second reason?
As long as Ben understands that if he hits you at lylo, he shouldn't trust you, then my job here is done. I just want to get people to reconsider their reads. That's what I'm here to do.
Oh, the second reason is you can't swing the lynches on your own?
Of course you can. You have bobby and JR and both are participating. Both were voting Jerry before I subbed in too.
I'm going on gut. You're reacting to me all wrong. Stop treating me like I've been in the game from the start. I don't know who voted for who when, and I don't give a crap. Give me old fashioned scum hunting. You smell bad.
linki - Andy, oh I read the thread. Every post. I just didn't live the context. I don't have to 'substantiate' why you are bad. I've seen what it looks like when vocal people take over the thread and lead it. You remind me of MP and Golden, always jumping on each others reads, that doesn't mean you are both good and it doesn't mean you are both right.
"I can think of at least two other reasons why MP would replace you" - well, I happen to have the advantage of knowing the 'because I am bad' one isn't correct. What's your second reason?
As long as Ben understands that if he hits you at lylo, he shouldn't trust you, then my job here is done. I just want to get people to reconsider their reads. That's what I'm here to do.
Oh, the second reason is you can't swing the lynches on your own?
Of course you can. You have bobby and JR and both are participating. Both were voting Jerry before I subbed in too.
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Re: [DAY 5] Parks and Recreation Mafia
Day 5: Fart Attack
I'm Perd Hapley I'm a reporter of Channel 4 eye witness news, but for the next two hours I'll be the host of this telethon.
The story of this next dance is...
Oh my, something is occurring that is interrupting my dance. It seems an older gentleman is clutching at his chest. It almost looks as if he is experiencing chest pains. And oh... oh my. The story now is that it appears he is passing gas. He is passing large amounts of gas. So much that this reporter can no longer report the news of this... fart attack.
We'll resume after these commercial messages.
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Sorry in advance for the lack of a host post, folks, got caught up with PhD stuff and playing two mafia games today, so didn't have time to get a host post written. I'll still get everything up and running ASAP.
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Day 5 Final Vote Tally
Who is a murderer?Poll ended at Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:00:09 pm
Andy Dwyer
1
Tom Haverford (11) 8%
Ben Wyatt
1
Jerry Gergich (4) 8%
Bobby Newport
0
No votes
Donna Meagle
0
No votes
Jean-Ralphio
0
No votes
Jerry Gergich
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Andy Dwyer (5), Ben Wyatt (7), Jean-Ralphio (8), Donna Meagle (10), Bobby Newport (12) 38%
Tom Haverford
0
No votes
*Unvote*
0
No votes
*No Lynch*
0
No votes
That bitch of an ex-wife Tammy (hosts, deadies, non-players)
6
MovingPictures07 (1), juliets (2), notsawyer540 (3), insertnamehere (6), Scotty (9), Perd Hapley (13) 46%
Total votes : 13
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Night 5: It Is Now LYLO
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It is now Day 6.
It is now LYLO. If a civilian is lynched today, mafia will win the game.
All votes are locked once they are cast. Day 6 will end once either a player receives a majority of the votes or all players have voted.