The Great Gatsby [Day 5]

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Someone shot Mr. Gatsby- who was it?

Poll ended at Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:33 pm

Boomslang
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DrWilgy
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Elohcin
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Made
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TonyStarkPrime
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Dan Cody (The Host, the Non, the Dead)
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Re: The Great Gatsby [Night 4]

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Post by Elohcin » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:37 pm

There's no way to solve a game with this little chatter. We're just sitting around waiting to be plucked off one by one during the night.
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Re: The Great Gatsby [Night 4]

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Post by Boomslang » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:44 pm

In the words of Malcom Reynolds, gorramit.

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Re: The Great Gatsby [Night 4]

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Post by DrWilgy » Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:16 pm

What the hell, I thought the goal was to test me?

W/e Neverwhere was gonna die anyways.
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Re: The Great Gatsby [Night 4]

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Post by TonyStarkPrime » Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:30 am

Okay, there are five left after tonight. I'm pretty sure Elo is town. If she isn't, she's fooled me. Made and Boom seem most likely but I'm not sure on it. I'm growing to be less sure on Wilgy, but we can't prove it necessarily untrue. I just find it unlikely that there would be two non-vanilla town roles and a non-vanilla neutral. LC is pinging me but not in a standard LC way.

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Re: The Great Gatsby [Night 4]

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Post by Spacedaisy » Sat Aug 12, 2017 1:33 am

Boomslang wrote:
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In the words of Malcom Reynolds, gorramit.
:omg: I knew there was a reason I liked you. Well I mean besides the fact you're a cool dude... and if Blooper likes you, you must be ok!

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Re: The Great Gatsby [Night 4]

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GAH!!!

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Post by Long Con » Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:08 am

Ok, so Wilgy didn't vote.... he could have made it a tie... and made the plan work... and then has the nerve to say:
What the hell, I thought the goal was to test me?
Hey Wilgy: maybe vote and make it a tie if you want the plan to work! WTF? Like, really, WTF????!!

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Post by Elohcin » Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:22 am

Yes. I'm beginning to think wilgy's whole role is made up.
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Re: The Great Gatsby [Night 4]

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Post by Elohcin » Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:27 am

He threatened the civs and the baddies though, when he revealed his role. And no one stepped up and went against him right off the bat. What does that say? One might think the actual independent would say something against wilgy at that time. Or perhaps not if the independent xan very well win with either faction. I think I'm just talking myself into more confusion.
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Post by Elohcin » Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:29 am

The sad thing is... I'm really into this game deapite all the lack of participation and I want to get these baddies but I have no clue who to look at. I think I trust LC right now and possibly Tony. That's it.
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Oh, and I've come around on boomslang too...... I think.
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I'll stop posting now 😜
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Re: The Great Gatsby [Night 4]

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Post by DrWilgy » Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:58 am

Long Con wrote:
Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:08 am
Ok, so Wilgy didn't vote.... he could have made it a tie... and made the plan work... and then has the nerve to say:
What the hell, I thought the goal was to test me?
Hey Wilgy: maybe vote and make it a tie if you want the plan to work! WTF? Like, really, WTF????!!
I openly explained I wouldn't vote. Boomslang didn't have to make it uneven with the last minute "I don't like this plan, let's derail it."
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Yes. I'm beginning to think wilgy's whole role is made up.
By all means test my claim to your hearts content.
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Re: The Great Gatsby [Night 4]

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Post by Boomslang » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:21 pm

Don't try to blame this on me, Wilgy. You could've tied the vote, or literally anyone else could have. I actually made a decision.

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Re: The Great Gatsby [Night 4]

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Post by Epignosis » Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:31 pm

Day 5

Roaring noon.

Long Con has been killed. He was Jay Gatsby, who was all right in the end. A vanilla civilian.

It is now Day 5. You have 48 hours to get to the bottom of this.

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Re: The Great Gatsby [Day 5]

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Bye LC. Good to know the time I see you as civ, you really are.
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Re: The Great Gatsby [Day 5]

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Post by Elohcin » Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:03 pm

Boomslang, talk to me...made, tony, or wilgy? I know wilgy has left a bad taste in youe mouth. He sqys you voted last minute....is this true? Was there a sufficient amount of time for him to gwt on and tie it up there at the end? I want to give him the benefit of the doubt. But just not sure if I should. Wilgy...come level with us.
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Re: The Great Gatsby [Day 5]

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Post by Boomslang » Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:58 pm

Wilgy is making excuses: he knew when end of day was, and so did everyone else who didn't vote. If they really wanted their plan to go through, they could've done so.

If both Made and Neverwhere were civ, the Mafia wouldn't have had any incentive to vote and be on record. Same for an indie who can just switch his win con. So really everyone who didn't vote is suspect.

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Re: The Great Gatsby [Night 4]

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Post by DrWilgy » Sun Aug 13, 2017 12:02 am

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Don't try to blame this on me, Wilgy. You could've tied the vote, or literally anyone else could have. I actually made a decision.
I legit said "I don't have to vote" and left. I saw there was a tie and was content knowing Neverwhere would die. If I was around to tie it up I would have. Idk what you wanted from me m8.

You also posted that you voted around 7:21... not even 10 min until the poll closed. Even if I was here to tie it up you gave us 9 min to rework something that was coordinated well in advance. Something that others made the decision to do.

It seemed that a majority of people wanted to reevaluate my claim as well. You, by yourself, decided against that when you placed your vote.

Now, Eloh was there. Idk why she didn't point out that this would have murked up the test plan. I guess she did a little... the time constraint was also there. W/e

All I know is that you took a gamble via voting. You wanted to punish a no show and you did. Now civs need to hunt to win. I don't think testing me is too wise at this point.

Hmm...

You could always test me through voting me and the person you find most suspicious up to a tie. I won't die because I put myself last as the tie priority (duh) and the other player will die.

I don't know what more you want from me other than this. I helped the civs, and then called a tie with utmost confidence.

I'm rambling now... I guess this is because part of me still wants civs to win even though I don't need them to. I guess that's just the friendly neighborhood indy that I want to be inherently. I know civs won't win of they choose to not believe me.

I will vote for myself. Tie me up with whom you find suspect and that'd be that.
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Re: The Great Gatsby [Day 5]

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Boomslang wrote:
Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:58 pm
Wilgy is making excuses: he knew when end of day was, and so did everyone else who didn't vote. If they really wanted their plan to go through, they could've done so.

If both Made and Neverwhere were civ, the Mafia wouldn't have had any incentive to vote and be on record. Same for an indie who can just switch his win con. So really everyone who didn't vote is suspect.
Dude, you posted that you voted Neverwhere about 9 min b4 eod. That's not even fair for everyine your targeting here lol.
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Re: The Great Gatsby [Day 5]

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Post by Elohcin » Sun Aug 13, 2017 9:51 am

Wilgy, I'm so confused as to who is bad. Boom could be bad and have done this on purpose so that it makes you look bad for not voting and making a tie. Question is...would he have left 9 minutes if he was bad and trying to turn us against you? Or, woupd he have waited even longer. I don't know what to believe anymore. I can see scenarios of him good and bad and I don't know how to weigh it in my mind. I can see scenarios of you being bad or indi and don't know which way to go on you. Then there's the quiet people.....but the baddies are killing Everyday night still...so.... Idk.
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Re: The Great Gatsby [Day 5]

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Post by Boomslang » Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:54 am

DrWilgy wrote:
Sun Aug 13, 2017 12:07 am
Boomslang wrote:
Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:58 pm
Wilgy is making excuses: he knew when end of day was, and so did everyone else who didn't vote. If they really wanted their plan to go through, they could've done so.

If both Made and Neverwhere were civ, the Mafia wouldn't have had any incentive to vote and be on record. Same for an indie who can just switch his win con. So really everyone who didn't vote is suspect.
Dude, you posted that you voted Neverwhere about 9 min b4 eod. That's not even fair for everyine your targeting here lol.
That's completely fair in any game where people are actually paying attention and trying to win for the civs. People are usually camped out at EOD, excited to see what happens. I think you just didn't care about the outcome one way or another because you knew it'd be good for you.

Also, the original plan was a 2v2 tie anyway iirc, so you should've been expecting people to vote. Encouraging a 1v1 tie is encouraging nonparticipation and less info for future decisions.

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Re: The Great Gatsby [Day 5]

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Post by DrWilgy » Sun Aug 13, 2017 12:58 pm

Boomslang wrote:
Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:54 am
DrWilgy wrote:
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Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:58 pm
Wilgy is making excuses: he knew when end of day was, and so did everyone else who didn't vote. If they really wanted their plan to go through, they could've done so.

If both Made and Neverwhere were civ, the Mafia wouldn't have had any incentive to vote and be on record. Same for an indie who can just switch his win con. So really everyone who didn't vote is suspect.
Dude, you posted that you voted Neverwhere about 9 min b4 eod. That's not even fair for everyine your targeting here lol.
That's completely fair in any game where people are actually paying attention and trying to win for the civs. People are usually camped out at EOD, excited to see what happens. I think you just didn't care about the outcome one way or another because you knew it'd be good for you.

Also, the original plan was a 2v2 tie anyway iirc, so you should've been expecting people to vote. Encouraging a 1v1 tie is encouraging nonparticipation and less info for future decisions.
Good for me and irrelevant to me are two very different things with the same outcome.

And how is this non-participation my fault or relevant to what happened in regards to me?

Also, I think I can spill my win condition now. Interested?
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Re: The Great Gatsby [Day 5]

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Post by Elohcin » Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:26 pm

I am.
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Re: The Great Gatsby [Day 5]

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Post by DrWilgy » Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:45 pm

1. I survive with any combination of Made or Eloh

Or

2. Made and Eloh survive the remainder of the game.

This means If you think I'm bad, feel free to lynch me, but after I flip do respect that killing Made or Eloh would only decline me my win condition.
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Re: The Great Gatsby [Day 5]

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Post by DrWilgy » Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:51 pm

I guess why I offer this is because,

A.) Civs lynching me may at least give them some closure. I trust that they wouldn't decline me my win condition after I have trusted them with the reveal of my flip.

B.) My lynch isn't a baddie lynch, giving them more time. I trust that mafia would respect ny win condition if I give then this day cycle.

So... I won't move my vote. Who wants to kill me? Who doesn't beleive me? Who wants to know the truth above all else?
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Re: The Great Gatsby [Day 5]

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DrWilgy wrote:
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1. I survive with any combination of Made or Eloh

Or

2. Made and Eloh survive the remainder of the game.

This means If you think I'm bad, feel free to lynch me, but after I flip do respect that killing Made or Eloh would only decline me my win condition.
I wonder why "made or elo" and "made and elo". I cannot see epi sending those two names to you in your role pm. Usually if a role's win condition is based on the survival of others, it will say the role name of the others, not the person playing those roles. It just doesn't make sense to me. And if this is true and it is made and me...can I deduce that made is bad because I know I am civ? I wish LC was still round to talk to. I do trust any of y'all anymore.
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Post by Elohcin » Sun Aug 13, 2017 3:13 pm

No...it can't be that made is bad since I am cic, because of #2. "If made and elo survive the remainder of the game"

If he were bad, then we both couldn't survive together.

I'm starting to wonder if this wilgy atuff is all made up and its him and made that are bad together. There are two baddies left, right?
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Re: The Great Gatsby [Day 5]

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Yeah, Epi didn't tell me that. I chose y'all. Everynight I can choose someone. If there are more chosen players alive than non chosen by the end of the game I win.

I also chose DF and Niju but they decided to go die on me.
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Also based on this being a heist and I'm indy, Im assuming there's only 1 baddie left. That's just a hunch
based on the numbers in this game.
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Okat...that makes more sense. And, l was thinking the same thing (only one mafia left). Someone else mentioned that there should be two.
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Post by Elohcin » Sun Aug 13, 2017 3:51 pm

Alright...so obviously you don't want to lynch made. Who do you want to lynch? Just curious.
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Isn't there a way to see when people last logged into the syndicate? Whoever is mafia is participating enough to kiss each night. This MAY help us narrow it down. May not be made.
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Re: The Great Gatsby [Day 5]

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Post by DrWilgy » Sun Aug 13, 2017 4:05 pm

Elohcin wrote:
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Alright...so obviously you don't want to lynch made. Who do you want to lynch? Just curious.
Eh, TSP or Boomslang.

Probably TSP. Idk how he's still alive following the Rico tie shindig. I swore he would have been NK'd like n3.
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Re: The Great Gatsby [Day 5]

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Post by Elohcin » Sun Aug 13, 2017 4:22 pm

Okay, Ive been doing a lot of rereading and I think the mafia is either boom or tony. I think one of them is mafia and the other is civ.

- I tend to find wilgy geniune and only wish he were civ so he would help me out more in this instead of being so neutral.

- Made is not around.... hasn't been around in days (and nights). And yet, kills keep coming.

- Tony seems helpful in most of his posts even though they are few and far between. He didn't vote yesterday which is concerning to me. Tony...please explain why you didn't vote and why you were against testing wilgy.

-Boom has been here. Did he agree to kill blooper? And he was the one that implied there are still two mafia instead of just one left. Like he knew it was a fact.
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Two things: TSP, you never specified who I could be Mafia with. And Elo, what do you mean by Made being alone? There's only one Mafia down... Unless you're forgetting to count yourself :eye:
What does this say about him. Makes me think he was mistaken and so Tony is the last mafia.
Boom...what say you about the number of mafia left in the game. Do you still think there are two?

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I'm going to get the ball rolling early. Tony has my vote for now.
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Re: The Great Gatsby [Day 5]

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Post by Elohcin » Sun Aug 13, 2017 4:25 pm

Why did you and tony vote for yourselves, wilgy?
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Re: The Great Gatsby [Day 5]

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Post by Boomslang » Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:08 pm

Elohcin wrote:
Sun Aug 13, 2017 4:22 pm
Boom has been here. Did he agree to kill blooper? And he was the one that implied there are still two mafia instead of just one left. Like he knew it was a fact.
Boomslang wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:36 pm
Two things: TSP, you never specified who I could be Mafia with. And Elo, what do you mean by Made being alone? There's only one Mafia down... Unless you're forgetting to count yourself :eye:
What does this say about him. Makes me think he was mistaken and so Tony is the last mafia.
Boom...what say you about the number of mafia left in the game. Do you still think there are two?

Linki...yeah... I think Tony is our best bet afyer my reread.
I assumed there would be three mafia in the game given the setup. I know the last heist I played, Futurama, had three mafia, and that seems to be common for other games with about the same number of players.

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Re: The Great Gatsby [Day 5]

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Post by Elohcin » Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:22 pm

If there were three...then ita 2:2:1 right now. I hope that's notnthe case. But I see why you would think so.

I feel like I'm the only one baddie hunting, so maybe there are three and it's you and tony. Made is MIA, and wilgy is indi. Makes sense. Wilgy, vote tony with me please.
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Re: The Great Gatsby [Day 5]

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Post by Elohcin » Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:24 pm

Meaning, you and tony are the last two baddies, made and I are the last two civs, and wilgy is indi.

That would make a lot of sense wih this lack of baddie hunting going on. I feel like I'm talking to myself more than half the time.
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