I believe that she is scum-aligned.
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okay, so here's my complete thinking:
players that are bad based on my reading: JJJ, Michelle, and on the low Alison
players that are bad because people i think are good think they're bad: SPF, LC
players that are bad based on PoE: DoO
From here, i looked at the polls and the direction the threads been moving.
LC started with a bunch of votes, but those votes disolved. that's sus for lc
Ellie lead the vote out of nowhere. that's sus for the voters there
alison not being in thread while voting LC: good look if LC is bad
DoO has no votes, but has been talked about significantly: that's a bad look for people who said she's bad if she's bad, but null if she's good
i don't think i can solve this game by myself, but I can try to optimize the outcome to learn the most. I feel like at this point (in order from most to least) I'd learned the most from these bakings
LC
Michelle
SPF
DoO
JJJ
Alison
so like i think JJJ is super sus, but if he's not bad, i'm wrong I don't think town learns much from that lynch.
not a science, but these are the kinds of dynamics going on in the black box that is my mind.
I would now like to open the floor to questions and discussions.
players that are bad based on my reading: JJJ, Michelle, and on the low Alison
players that are bad because people i think are good think they're bad: SPF, LC
players that are bad based on PoE: DoO
From here, i looked at the polls and the direction the threads been moving.
LC started with a bunch of votes, but those votes disolved. that's sus for lc
Ellie lead the vote out of nowhere. that's sus for the voters there
alison not being in thread while voting LC: good look if LC is bad
DoO has no votes, but has been talked about significantly: that's a bad look for people who said she's bad if she's bad, but null if she's good
i don't think i can solve this game by myself, but I can try to optimize the outcome to learn the most. I feel like at this point (in order from most to least) I'd learned the most from these bakings
LC
Michelle
SPF
DoO
JJJ
Alison
so like i think JJJ is super sus, but if he's not bad, i'm wrong I don't think town learns much from that lynch.
not a science, but these are the kinds of dynamics going on in the black box that is my mind.
I would now like to open the floor to questions and discussions.
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I dig your style, but I must disagree with the logic involved in reaching your conclusions. Like, a really lot.Made wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:07 am But yeah, I majored in wagonomic in undergrad guys I got this:
So LC is odd for getting a lot of votes and those votes kinda dissolving is a great look for Ellie if LC flips scum, and a bad look for people who switch off him, especially if they started the wagon.
If Ellie is bad clear spf, LC, and essoa. There’s no reason for a clump of votes to appear there from a baddie team, especially at this point
From this I get if Ellie is mafia LC is town and if LC is baddie Ellie is town.

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It feels annoying that DOOM is continued to be let free to roam UTR sans SPF isoing her.
A lot of posts I read in my catchup were pointless and a waste of energy to read and write. Please be more efficient.
Actually this is hypocritical of me to say. Did I not spam a ton of fluff? I think I did. My instinct was to then delete the sentence I wrote above. So I don"t look silly. But I'm keeping it. Towns need only be honest, for good or for bad, and they will win.
Anyway. SPF is continuing to get a free pass for no god damn reason and she is completely ignoring my scumread on her. I believe that she is Mafia and she needs to die. Probably together with DOOM.
I have a suggestion: Stop simping good players until they yeet a wolf, how does that sound?
Push people, put votes on them etc, don't just give free passes based off reputation etc. I could be wrong that SPF is scum and I'm sorry in that case, but I find this behavior of "By policy we yeet players we perceive as less skilled early game over players were perceive more skilled" gross and hurtful to game balance.
A lot of posts I read in my catchup were pointless and a waste of energy to read and write. Please be more efficient.
Actually this is hypocritical of me to say. Did I not spam a ton of fluff? I think I did. My instinct was to then delete the sentence I wrote above. So I don"t look silly. But I'm keeping it. Towns need only be honest, for good or for bad, and they will win.
Anyway. SPF is continuing to get a free pass for no god damn reason and she is completely ignoring my scumread on her. I believe that she is Mafia and she needs to die. Probably together with DOOM.
I have a suggestion: Stop simping good players until they yeet a wolf, how does that sound?
Push people, put votes on them etc, don't just give free passes based off reputation etc. I could be wrong that SPF is scum and I'm sorry in that case, but I find this behavior of "By policy we yeet players we perceive as less skilled early game over players were perceive more skilled" gross and hurtful to game balance.
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oh to wrap and bow off my thinking, i tried to figure out who would have a lot of votes based on that, and identified the vote valley was to be DoO, Michelle, and SPF. LC was a vote peak rather than a valley, but as it's mellowed out to a 4 way tie, i think that's a bad look for LC. if it keeps going down, that's a good look for LC, but watched data changes the results.
but yeah, that's what the end side of my head looks like.
this is why i prefer to just kinda say things
but yeah, that's what the end side of my head looks like.
this is why i prefer to just kinda say things
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I like those Made posts. He agrees with my reads a lot. Made GOAT. Underrated player tbh. I'm townshielding him. Please don't touch him.
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No way, you would learn very little by chopping me. I'm a common, throwaway (is there another word that has "wawa" in it?) suspicion that says very little about the people expressing it. I'm town, and not known for my keen scumfinding insights, so the things I have said won't have much special significance. I'm not the cop. If you want to analyze who is bad when I turn up town, then do it in real time and save yourself the rtrouble of going back later.Made wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:28 am okay, so here's my complete thinking:
players that are bad based on my reading: JJJ, Michelle, and on the low Alison
players that are bad because people i think are good think they're bad: SPF, LC
players that are bad based on PoE: DoO
From here, i looked at the polls and the direction the threads been moving.
LC started with a bunch of votes, but those votes disolved. that's sus for lc
Ellie lead the vote out of nowhere. that's sus for the voters there
alison not being in thread while voting LC: good look if LC is bad
DoO has no votes, but has been talked about significantly: that's a bad look for people who said she's bad if she's bad, but null if she's good
i don't think i can solve this game by myself, but I can try to optimize the outcome to learn the most. I feel like at this point (in order from most to least) I'd learned the most from these bakings
LC
Michelle
SPF
DoO
JJJ
Alison
so like i think JJJ is super sus, but if he's not bad, i'm wrong I don't think town learns much from that lynch.
not a science, but these are the kinds of dynamics going on in the black box that is my mind.
I would now like to open the floor to questions and discussions.

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Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]
i mean, you haven't presented any reasons for why you scumread me. you mentioned earlier that you ~always~ think i'm mafia and that you could be wrong about me. the most pertinent thing i could see myself doing was just solving like i normally would instead of getting caught up on your push on me
but since you feel strongly about it, do you wanna talk about your read on me? why are you sus?
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me getting a "free pass" implies both that i havent been scumread and that i've done things that i need to be pressured for
when in reality, ive been scumread/tinfoiled by a majority of the people here lol
when in reality, ive been scumread/tinfoiled by a majority of the people here lol
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honestly i have no idea what to make of this. does anyone have any thoughts?Made wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:28 am okay, so here's my complete thinking:
players that are bad based on my reading: JJJ, Michelle, and on the low Alison
players that are bad because people i think are good think they're bad: SPF, LC
players that are bad based on PoE: DoO
From here, i looked at the polls and the direction the threads been moving.
LC started with a bunch of votes, but those votes disolved. that's sus for lc
Ellie lead the vote out of nowhere. that's sus for the voters there
alison not being in thread while voting LC: good look if LC is bad
DoO has no votes, but has been talked about significantly: that's a bad look for people who said she's bad if she's bad, but null if she's good
i don't think i can solve this game by myself, but I can try to optimize the outcome to learn the most. I feel like at this point (in order from most to least) I'd learned the most from these bakings
LC
Michelle
SPF
DoO
JJJ
Alison
so like i think JJJ is super sus, but if he's not bad, i'm wrong I don't think town learns much from that lynch.
not a science, but these are the kinds of dynamics going on in the black box that is my mind.
I would now like to open the floor to questions and discussions.
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funny enough, that was my logic on you until you almost got hammered and then didn't. The fact that you didn't is where i think the learning comes from. Tho, if alison intends to change her vote from you, you'd prob move down the list to just below DoOLong Con wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:37 amNo way, you would learn very little by chopping me. I'm a common, throwaway (is there another word that has "wawa" in it?) suspicion that says very little about the people expressing it. I'm town, and not known for my keen scumfinding insights, so the things I have said won't have much special significance. I'm not the cop. If you want to analyze who is bad when I turn up town, then do it in real time and save yourself the rtrouble of going back later.Made wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:28 am okay, so here's my complete thinking:
players that are bad based on my reading: JJJ, Michelle, and on the low Alison
players that are bad because people i think are good think they're bad: SPF, LC
players that are bad based on PoE: DoO
From here, i looked at the polls and the direction the threads been moving.
LC started with a bunch of votes, but those votes disolved. that's sus for lc
Ellie lead the vote out of nowhere. that's sus for the voters there
alison not being in thread while voting LC: good look if LC is bad
DoO has no votes, but has been talked about significantly: that's a bad look for people who said she's bad if she's bad, but null if she's good
i don't think i can solve this game by myself, but I can try to optimize the outcome to learn the most. I feel like at this point (in order from most to least) I'd learned the most from these bakings
LC
Michelle
SPF
DoO
JJJ
Alison
so like i think JJJ is super sus, but if he's not bad, i'm wrong I don't think town learns much from that lynch.
not a science, but these are the kinds of dynamics going on in the black box that is my mind.
I would now like to open the floor to questions and discussions.
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Why were you OK with another player saying they just scumread you by default? In Radiohead I wrongly tunneled you and you expressed a slight frustration at one point because I wasn't explaining myself. In Grasslands I also scumread you at points without explaining myself and you ignored it/you were chill with it. I am therefore to believe that your reaction (or lack of it) to my objectively bad pushes on you is Alignment Indicative.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:37 ami mean, you haven't presented any reasons for why you scumread me. you mentioned earlier that you ~always~ think i'm mafia and that you could be wrong about me. the most pertinent thing i could see myself doing was just solving like i normally would instead of getting caught up on your push on me
but since you feel strongly about it, do you wanna talk about your read on me? why are you sus?
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in radiohead mafia, i got legitimately frustrated by the pushes on me because i hadn't learned how to handle pressure as town yet. i don't like getting angry about games that are supposed to be fun, and i don't like projecting that energy onto other people. so, me being calm in response to you tunneling me should be NAItutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:41 amWhy were you OK with another player saying they just scumread you by default? In Radiohead I wrongly tunneled you and you expressed a slight frustration at one point because I wasn't explaining myself. In Grasslands I also scumread you at points without explaining myself and you ignored it/you were chill with it. I am therefore to believe that your reaction (or lack of it) to my objectively bad pushes on you is Alignment Indicative.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:37 ami mean, you haven't presented any reasons for why you scumread me. you mentioned earlier that you ~always~ think i'm mafia and that you could be wrong about me. the most pertinent thing i could see myself doing was just solving like i normally would instead of getting caught up on your push on me
but since you feel strongly about it, do you wanna talk about your read on me? why are you sus?
i've pushed back against people who've tinfoiled me in this game (nutella, made, etc), but i haven't seen the point in engaging you with your read when you've admitted yourself that you're inclined to SR me regardless of my alignment, and when you haven't presented any reasons for why you're suspicious of me.
i'm happy to talk about anything specific that you scumread from me, but it's a waste of both of our time if i try to talk you out of a read that you haven't explained yet
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What the meta for situations like this anyways. votes are far more spread out than i'm use to seeing generally
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See, I'm glad tutuu just made this awful post about me. It helped me gain more confidence in SPF being town.
The difference between what SPF and Tutuu have said about me is key to realizing the difference between what a town sees from me, and what someone with an agenda says about my game.
The difference between what SPF and Tutuu have said about me is key to realizing the difference between what a town sees from me, and what someone with an agenda says about my game.
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hydra with me sometime ive been under pressure nearly every game i play in and avoid being limmed :Pstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:46 amin radiohead mafia, i got legitimately frustrated by the pushes on me because i hadn't learned how to handle pressure as town yet. i don't like getting angry about games that are supposed to be fun, and i don't like projecting that energy onto other people. so, me being calm in response to you tunneling me should be NAItutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:41 amWhy were you OK with another player saying they just scumread you by default? In Radiohead I wrongly tunneled you and you expressed a slight frustration at one point because I wasn't explaining myself. In Grasslands I also scumread you at points without explaining myself and you ignored it/you were chill with it. I am therefore to believe that your reaction (or lack of it) to my objectively bad pushes on you is Alignment Indicative.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:37 ami mean, you haven't presented any reasons for why you scumread me. you mentioned earlier that you ~always~ think i'm mafia and that you could be wrong about me. the most pertinent thing i could see myself doing was just solving like i normally would instead of getting caught up on your push on me
but since you feel strongly about it, do you wanna talk about your read on me? why are you sus?
i've pushed back against people who've tinfoiled me in this game (nutella, made, etc), but i haven't seen the point in engaging you with your read when you've admitted yourself that you're inclined to SR me regardless of my alignment, and when you haven't presented any reasons for why you're suspicious of me.
i'm happy to talk about anything specific that you scumread from me, but it's a waste of both of our time if i try to talk you out of a read that you haven't explained yet
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tutuu can u ellaborate on ur spf scumread? from what im understanding from skimming this page u think shes not town when u say "free pass"
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Even if I have a verbalized reason to suspect you you're going to find a way to logically refute it regardless of your alignment. I know that you're capable of it. You're stacking the deck in your favor. I refuse to play that game. I'm stacking the deck in my favor instead. your mafia your mafia your mafia your mafia your mafia your mafia your mafia your mafiastaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:46 amin radiohead mafia, i got legitimately frustrated by the pushes on me because i hadn't learned how to handle pressure as town yet. i don't like getting angry about games that are supposed to be fun, and i don't like projecting that energy onto other people. so, me being calm in response to you tunneling me should be NAItutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:41 amWhy were you OK with another player saying they just scumread you by default? In Radiohead I wrongly tunneled you and you expressed a slight frustration at one point because I wasn't explaining myself. In Grasslands I also scumread you at points without explaining myself and you ignored it/you were chill with it. I am therefore to believe that your reaction (or lack of it) to my objectively bad pushes on you is Alignment Indicative.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:37 ami mean, you haven't presented any reasons for why you scumread me. you mentioned earlier that you ~always~ think i'm mafia and that you could be wrong about me. the most pertinent thing i could see myself doing was just solving like i normally would instead of getting caught up on your push on me
but since you feel strongly about it, do you wanna talk about your read on me? why are you sus?
i've pushed back against people who've tinfoiled me in this game (nutella, made, etc), but i haven't seen the point in engaging you with your read when you've admitted yourself that you're inclined to SR me regardless of my alignment, and when you haven't presented any reasons for why you're suspicious of me.
i'm happy to talk about anything specific that you scumread from me, but it's a waste of both of our time if i try to talk you out of a read that you haven't explained yet
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i have secret meta on spf that i will withhold while i let yall go ahead (: but i think spf might know what that might be
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I understand your frustration tutuu, but I think you might note in this snippet a particular revelation: you’re simping the “good players”, whoever they are determined to be. By holding X to this “yeet a wolf first” standard when we haven’t finished the first day phase yet is, by definition, placing X on a pedestal. They have to be so great that they cannot justly be viewed as town, or even as not the best chop by virtue of not having done the impossible.
I don’t think anyone’s giving SPF a pass. She’s gotten a fair rash of shit in this game. Almost everyone has, frankly. But if folks don’t view her as The Most Suspicious to any degree of consensus, then that’s just the way the game has developed.
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because i refuse to believe she after so many games of failing to reeval stuff when pushing ppl has YET to learn how to normally interact with ppl in game after i have explained to her this stuff and it feels she is using AtE like a shield to not be productive in interaction.
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this would be a good thing to expand on, thanksDaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:59 am See, I'm glad tutuu just made this awful post about me. It helped me gain more confidence in SPF being town.
The difference between what SPF and Tutuu have said about me is key to realizing the difference between what a town sees from me, and what someone with an agenda says about my game.
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I'm pretty sure the post from Tutuu about me being scum is the worst post so far, and there have been others who have pushed me.
I haven't posted a ton, and I took a quick look through to see if I could come up with a perspective of me posting fluff and being UTR. It's not something I see being a genuine thought upon reading my ISO alone. It's more of a scum thinking I could potentially be killed, and used URT/Fluff as buzzwords for something to excuse the push onto me.
I haven't posted a ton, and I took a quick look through to see if I could come up with a perspective of me posting fluff and being UTR. It's not something I see being a genuine thought upon reading my ISO alone. It's more of a scum thinking I could potentially be killed, and used URT/Fluff as buzzwords for something to excuse the push onto me.
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alright i have an exercise for you @tutuu can you point to me 3-5 posts that go "hey spf is mafia here"?
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i think tutuu might be my top town read right now, if not DkKoba
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I don’t think you’ve been at all fluffy, but you’ve absolutely been under the radar. I don’t know how much I care about that, but it’s at least a valid assessment from my perspective. You’re under my radar.DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:13 am I'm pretty sure the post from Tutuu about me being scum is the worst post so far, and there have been others who have pushed me.
I haven't posted a ton, and I took a quick look through to see if I could come up with a perspective of me posting fluff and being UTR. It's not something I see being a genuine thought upon reading my ISO alone. It's more of a scum thinking I could potentially be killed, and used URT/Fluff as buzzwords for something to excuse the push onto me.
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I have made multiple posts about you being under the radar. You had me as a top townread despite that. This 180 doesn't feel real. You're mafia and you're outed. Sucks to be you, kid.DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:13 am I'm pretty sure the post from Tutuu about me being scum is the worst post so far, and there have been others who have pushed me.
I haven't posted a ton, and I took a quick look through to see if I could come up with a perspective of me posting fluff and being UTR. It's not something I see being a genuine thought upon reading my ISO alone. It's more of a scum thinking I could potentially be killed, and used URT/Fluff as buzzwords for something to excuse the push onto me.
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tutuu, step back for a second and imagine a world where i'm town. even if u are 100% convinced i'm scum, i just want you to play along w/me for a momenttutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:07 amEven if I have a verbalized reason to suspect you you're going to find a way to logically refute it regardless of your alignment. I know that you're capable of it. You're stacking the deck in your favor. I refuse to play that game. I'm stacking the deck in my favor instead. your mafia your mafia your mafia your mafia your mafia your mafia your mafia your mafiastaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:46 amin radiohead mafia, i got legitimately frustrated by the pushes on me because i hadn't learned how to handle pressure as town yet. i don't like getting angry about games that are supposed to be fun, and i don't like projecting that energy onto other people. so, me being calm in response to you tunneling me should be NAItutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:41 amWhy were you OK with another player saying they just scumread you by default? In Radiohead I wrongly tunneled you and you expressed a slight frustration at one point because I wasn't explaining myself. In Grasslands I also scumread you at points without explaining myself and you ignored it/you were chill with it. I am therefore to believe that your reaction (or lack of it) to my objectively bad pushes on you is Alignment Indicative.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:37 ami mean, you haven't presented any reasons for why you scumread me. you mentioned earlier that you ~always~ think i'm mafia and that you could be wrong about me. the most pertinent thing i could see myself doing was just solving like i normally would instead of getting caught up on your push on me
but since you feel strongly about it, do you wanna talk about your read on me? why are you sus?
i've pushed back against people who've tinfoiled me in this game (nutella, made, etc), but i haven't seen the point in engaging you with your read when you've admitted yourself that you're inclined to SR me regardless of my alignment, and when you haven't presented any reasons for why you're suspicious of me.
i'm happy to talk about anything specific that you scumread from me, but it's a waste of both of our time if i try to talk you out of a read that you haven't explained yet
through this framework that you've created (ie: "i can't discuss my scumread on SPF because if I do, she'll be able to logically refute it as mafia"), there's really no avenue for me to change your mind, is there?
if you're unwilling to discuss your reasoning and you also believe that my response to your reasoning would be NAI - then that puts me in a position, as town, where there is literally no way to talk you out of your read
so, if it's impossible for me to talk you out of your read, then what can i really do? i could plead with you to change your mind, but i don't know why you scumread me in the first place, and i'm not going to spend my energy in this game trying to rationalize somebody out of a position that they have not provided rationalization for
i, spf!town, am acutely aware of the fact that you're going to be suspicious of me no matter what alignment i am. and i think that's good - it's good to be paranoid about me, and it's good to worry that i might be mafia. hell, i could be mafia
but if it's impossible for me to actually talk about your read with you, then the best thing i can do is gamesolve like i normally would and not let your tunnel get to me, don't you think? there is literally no other avenue for me to take.
i would love to talk it out with you, but i'm also not going to play to appease you. i'm gonna keep doing what i'm doing, and if you want to discuss your read on me (or your read on anyone here) with me at any point, then i'll be here
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Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]
Hey, I'm sorry for not being around. I've been pretty busy today trying to get a working phone line in order so I can perform my quarantine checkins, and I've been struggling with jet lag as well. There's a lot of posts that's been made and it's midnight so I skimmed most of it. Here's the stuff that stands out most to me.
1) Michelle, you stated earlier that you thought LC was town because his wagon grew too big too fast - ie. that scum wanted to pile on him and kill him. LC's wagon has now broken down and the wagon formations are scattered amongst multiple players. Why do you think this is the case? Under your perspective, did the scum trying to push LC give up and look for other targets?
2) JJJ, what is your current POE? (Sorry if you've said and I didn't see)
3) Esooa, how good are you at reading Ellie, historically?
1) Michelle, you stated earlier that you thought LC was town because his wagon grew too big too fast - ie. that scum wanted to pile on him and kill him. LC's wagon has now broken down and the wagon formations are scattered amongst multiple players. Why do you think this is the case? Under your perspective, did the scum trying to push LC give up and look for other targets?
2) JJJ, what is your current POE? (Sorry if you've said and I didn't see)
3) Esooa, how good are you at reading Ellie, historically?
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
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Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]
I don't support a DOOM exe today. DOOM has had one post that made me go "oh, that's not something a mafia would say". There are multiple people in this game who have not had a post like that. I want them to go before DOOM.
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]
There are in chronological order. DOOM's 180 on me because I said she's UTR for the second time isn't real.DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:35 pm tutu
StayPositive
Esooa
Made
Nanook
and potentially Alison are my town. I want to build up my alison read slowly, I see a bit of things that I take pause with.
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Are you purposely ignoring what I said, or?tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:20 amI have made multiple posts about you being under the radar. You had me as a top townread despite that. This 180 doesn't feel real. You're mafia and you're outed. Sucks to be you, kid.DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:13 am I'm pretty sure the post from Tutuu about me being scum is the worst post so far, and there have been others who have pushed me.
I haven't posted a ton, and I took a quick look through to see if I could come up with a perspective of me posting fluff and being UTR. It's not something I see being a genuine thought upon reading my ISO alone. It's more of a scum thinking I could potentially be killed, and used URT/Fluff as buzzwords for something to excuse the push onto me.
I never said you didn't I was UTR, I said the fact you are seriously saying that just after you said you went out of your way to read my ISO is what makes you mafia. I could potentially believe someone casually playing could see me as UTR, but rereading my ISO I do not see how that perspective can be genuine. Then you added on fluff, as if this was something that could be legit, which is not in any world. So I've come to the conclusion you have to be bsing on the fluff, and potentially if not 100% lying about the UTR opinion. Lying to push someone is very common in a certain alignment, and not common in the other.
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]
Where did I say I read your ISO?DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:25 amAre you purposely ignoring what I said, or?tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:20 amI have made multiple posts about you being under the radar. You had me as a top townread despite that. This 180 doesn't feel real. You're mafia and you're outed. Sucks to be you, kid.DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:13 am I'm pretty sure the post from Tutuu about me being scum is the worst post so far, and there have been others who have pushed me.
I haven't posted a ton, and I took a quick look through to see if I could come up with a perspective of me posting fluff and being UTR. It's not something I see being a genuine thought upon reading my ISO alone. It's more of a scum thinking I could potentially be killed, and used URT/Fluff as buzzwords for something to excuse the push onto me.
I never said you didn't I was UTR, I said the fact you are seriously saying that just after you said you went out of your way to read my ISO is what makes you mafia. I could potentially believe someone casually playing could see me as UTR, but rereading my ISO I do not see how that perspective can be genuine. Then you added on fluff, as if this was something that could be legit, which is not in any world. So I've come to the conclusion you have to be bsing on the fluff, and potentially if not 100% lying about the UTR opinion. Lying to push someone is very common in a certain alignment, and not common in the other.
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Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]
I'm going to read your ISO right now. And then I'm going to call you Mafia.
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Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]
Fluff is NAI for tutuu. If you look at the Sockys best quote of the year award it's just pages of her making up bizarre fluffy shit in games.
tutuu being hypertunnelled to the point of putting her fingers in her ears and going "na na I can't hear you" is a towntell.
tutuu being hypertunnelled to the point of putting her fingers in her ears and going "na na I can't hear you" is a towntell.
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Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]
It's in your best interest to push me Tutuu. I understand why you feel like you have to go out of your way to bring up my early town read of you as evidence of me being mafia, which is laughable, though respectable.
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Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]
@Alison I don’t have a well fleshed out poe at the moment. I just asked myself to name five and ended at [Ellie, Grogu, Long Con, Made, Omega]
I acknowledge the prevalence of lower post counts here. I’m jostling the rest. I think I’ve decided Michelle is town.
I acknowledge the prevalence of lower post counts here. I’m jostling the rest. I think I’ve decided Michelle is town.
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the gamestate revealeth itself
main sites: MafiaScum, EpicMafia
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Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]
I'm more on less on board with this, although my ordering is different (assuming yours is ordered? I'm not sure), and I have Michelle as mixed instead of town.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:28 am @Alison I don’t have a well fleshed out poe at the moment. I just asked myself to name five and ended at [Ellie, Grogu, Long Con, Made, Omega]
I acknowledge the prevalence of lower post counts here. I’m jostling the rest. I think I’ve decided Michelle is town.
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Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]
Concern for/about @Made:
Current suspicions seem centralized on people who were early consensus suspects (Long Con, Michelle) — noted resistance to moving on from those reads
Other suspicions were on players in the middling area of consensus reads (JJJ, SPF, Omega) — folks that you can justify pushing without upsetting the momentum of the thread.
I am concerned that if the consensus is somewhere in the ballpark of correct, this group of suspects is almost where you must be as a mafioso.
Current suspicions seem centralized on people who were early consensus suspects (Long Con, Michelle) — noted resistance to moving on from those reads
Other suspicions were on players in the middling area of consensus reads (JJJ, SPF, Omega) — folks that you can justify pushing without upsetting the momentum of the thread.
I am concerned that if the consensus is somewhere in the ballpark of correct, this group of suspects is almost where you must be as a mafioso.
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Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]
Sorry I have to go to bed, with activity picking up. Go easy on morning me please. Good night!

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Re: Bread Mafia [Day 1]
No orderAlison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:28 amI'm more on less on board with this, although my ordering is different (assuming yours is ordered? I'm not sure), and I have Michelle as mixed instead of town.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:28 am @Alison I don’t have a well fleshed out poe at the moment. I just asked myself to name five and ended at [Ellie, Grogu, Long Con, Made, Omega]
I acknowledge the prevalence of lower post counts here. I’m jostling the rest. I think I’ve decided Michelle is town.
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