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Who's getting baked today? (It takes 8 votes to hammer the bread)

Poll ended at Wed Jan 27, 2021 11:00 pm

Alison
5
33%
DaughterOfOmega
1
7%
DkKoba
0
No votes
Esooa
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7%
Grogu
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JaggedJimmyJay
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No votes
Made
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Michelle
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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
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nutella
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staypositivefriend
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tutuu
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No Bake
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Croissant!!! (Host, Mods, Nonplayers, Deads)
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Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

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DaughterOfOmega wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:01 pm
DkKoba wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:47 pm
DaughterOfOmega wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:46 pm
DkKoba wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:41 pm
DaughterOfOmega wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:38 pm Koba is saying that I'm planning and setting up this massive CC that would be a shock to this game, but stopped because they pointed it out right before I did it.

I like the fantasy world
hardclaim ur role
Mafia vig
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[VOTE: doom] aubergine
Koba not realizing that the vig in this game is town

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staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:43 am don't have a ton of time to give my two cents right now, but i'm coming closer to a jagged!town world - and i'm not sure what that means for my read on alison. if i ignore the prospect of hunting for partners, then alison remains an appealing vote. i am struggling, however, to find a team for alison that i feel makes a comfortable fit

would appreciate it if we didn't end the day until the deadline - i'd like to take some time tomorrow to gather my thoughts and leave some legacy stuff
We are far from hammer and I voted just in spirit to not make the wagon bigger, so tyt
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:01 pm I don't figure they are mafia teammates
quoted to find easier Jay's posts about Alison
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Marmot wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:11 pm Another question has been asked that I will answer publicly.

Any X-shot ability that is in any way blocked or kept from happening is not refunded.


Feel free to ping me if you knead any more answers.
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Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

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Michelle wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:58 am
tutuu wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:55 am I wish i had a partner
whaddaya mean you don't have? :confused:
Do ya have one?
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Grogu wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:13 am
Michelle wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:54 am
Grogu wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:02 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:51 pm
Grogu wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:50 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:43 pm if anybody has any strong reasons for why alison should be considered town, i would very much like to hear them
I think they are town. I think scum is pushing these grogu, Ali and omega crap to win.
hello green friend, could you please explain to me why you think that alison is town? any particular reasons why?
Just feels she is. I don’t see anything bad in her posts and I think she’s been set up to POE like I have and Ellie, Lc were.

One thing bothered me though, call me crazy or maybe I’m just bad. Essoa voting me and saying me and Ali are partners and I must be protecting her is wild. Looks to me that if essoa is scum he either wants to keep 2 town wagons going with me and Ali.
Or Ali is their partner and he wants to kill me and makes me look bad by using TMI. Since he would know Ali is scum and I defended her so he wants to kill me first for it and keep her alive. Kinda odd since Ali had 3 votes and I had 0...

Do you follow? Idk if this is the right way to think but remember that if I die today. It didn’t sit right with me
staypositivefriend wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:09 pm something that i found interesting is that when tutuu did her "trustfall" earlier, she noted that she had the hardest time coming up with a reason to both townread ~and~ scumread jagged

i found myself in a similar position when i outed a trustfall/distrustfall yesterday

if jagged has mostly just skated by on "good vibes/energy" and there are no concrete reasons to label him town, then that concerns me. it could be indicative of a jagged!scum world. i feel that the possibility needs to be explored thoroughly today
these posts are brain food, just wanted to have them closer
What does this mean? Do you agree?
Depending on further flips infos in these posts are valuable ig
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tutuu wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:45 am
Michelle wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:58 am
tutuu wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:55 am I wish i had a partner
whaddaya mean you don't have? :confused:
Do ya have one?
Talking about the game I started it with 11 partners, and i never feel alone in a mafia game.

Irl i have just one ^^
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Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

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Congrats im jelly ^_^
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Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

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What do u do when ur partner(s) do stuff that u dont like Michelle?

For instance - i have played my hearts out this game, im voting for a likely scum, i managed to recognize when im tunneling multiple towns and get off of them, mafia determined me big enough of a threat to try to kill me - and yet i still read posts of people tinfoiling me that i could be a liar and an "unfaithful" partner
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Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

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I will spoiler these, if i am alive I will read them next day again
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Alison wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:33 pm Treat this as my legacy post.
Alison wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:08 pm the possible worlds are:

nutella solo deepwolf - nutella + 2 in [JJJ/Grogu/DOOM]

tutuu solo deepwolf - tutuu + 2 in [JJJ/Grogu/nanook]

nutella/tutuu wolves - nutella + tutuu + [JJJ/Grogu]
Alison wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:23 pm
Grogu wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:20 pm I love how Alison complaints about being consensus POE but then has me in all the worlds. Has no real read on me yet I’m scum with every possible team. Yikes
I don't have you in all the worlds. I have you as a possibility, that's all. It could be nutella/DOOM/JJJ, for instance. I don't think you really understood my solve post because you've made comments about it (like asking why I think Esooa is a wolf) that don't match up to what I said at all.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:41 pm @Alison, a difficulty I am having:

If I call you town, which I kinda feel like doing right now, then I move one of [Nanook, tutuu, nutella] into my POE of five in your place. You're not in a terribly different place, but you have different "top town reads". Of those three, nutella would actually be my last choice behind both Nanook and tutuu. You spoke a bit of tutuu and team dynamics, but your solve doesn't say a lot about Nanook (or myself, just that we might fit in this team or that). Why do you trust Nanook enough that he isn't where your solving leads you instead of nutella?

nutella can be mafia. At this point I'm not ruling anyone out. But your nutella solve is opposite to my intuition, so it'd help to me to talk that over with you.
staypositivefriend wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:43 pm thanks for the POE alison - i'm giving it a look and taking it into consideration. i'm roughly at the place where i feel that both DK and esooa have more town equity than not, so if you ~are~ town, it's reassuring to me that our heads are in a relatively similar place

to be honest, i'm facing major information overload syndrome in this game. i don't think i've ever felt so aimless in a mafia game before - this is usually the type of situation i thrive in, but i've felt pretty unable to really "kick it into gear" and help create the conditions for a victory

although DOOM could still potentially be scum, the fact that she was part of the "consensus POE" of universally scumread players throughout the entire game is a small point in favor of her being town - nobody has really shielded her (to my memory), and she's always been in the outskirts of the POE as a plausible chop option. her frustration with being FOS'd today felt very authentic, and i like that it felt as though she was going to enter "anti-spew" mode, but then made a point of still outing insightful analysis/reads. i also thought that her concerns about me felt towny, solely in the sense that they dont make much sense for DOOM to post if she was playing from a mafia mindset. i won't die on the hill of this read being accurate, but i am townleaning DOOM and i am presently not interested in voting for her

koba fits the archetype of "scum" in the sense that they have faced a high level of protection from early on, and my tinfoil read on them was shot down pretty heavily. their push on DOOM also concerns me. that said, their approach does not necessarily ping me today - i feel that their frustration over not being listened to is something that could easily come from a koba!town mindset. i just want to see koba flesh out their reads more, honestly. as things stand, i probably will not end up with a vote on them today

i feel the same about esooa - i still maintain that she had some very strong towntells (on d2 in particular) and that she maintained a consistently strong gamesolve-y tone throughout yesterday. i feel that her presence today has been deflated a bit (perhaps i just havent read her posts closely enough), but i would not characterize esooa as someone that i am actively worried about - she has deepwolf potential, but much like koba, it doesn't seem like a good fit

grogu is an interesting case - he fits pretty well in the scum archetype because he has faced an absurd amount of protection from being pushed on or FOS'd in this game - i can't think of a single time a grogu!scum world consensus actually gained momentum. that said, some of his posts do feel a bit "tonally" towny to me - but we're at the stage of the game where i do not feel that i can reasonably remove someone from my POE for "tone". his passionate defense of alison does also not feel entirely substantiated by his logic. i would not characterize grogu as my number one scumread, but i would characterize him as someone that i'm concerned about

i will continue this later
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:45 pm There's also a lot of general perspective disconnect generally happening in here. Some people are calling DK a deepwolf candidate and some are calling them POE lol

I'm not sure there is a "consensus POE" in this game anymore.
staypositivefriend wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:58 pm
nutella wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:57 pm i think made is the most probable hit with the info we have
this is one of the few posts from nutella that outright pinged me - because it felt like nutella's mindset was disconnected from the rest of the game. when i saw ellie flip town, my first instinct was not: "well, i guess it's made now!". my instinct was: "we need to re-evaluate everything".

so for nutella to enter the game after the ellie flip with a hardpush on made "based on the info we have" does not strike me as a particularly well substantiated or organic vote
nutella wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:59 pm posts are long and i'm making dinner but the idea i'm "powerwolfing" is a funny one
nutella wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:00 pm remember i had been townreading made, so that was a reevaluation
nutella wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:01 pm anyway will read stuff more in depth later. i do think if alison is actually town the tutuu solve is a likely one.
staypositivefriend wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:07 pm mmm i'm arriving at a nanook town world upon giving his ISO a look. i would probably not re-evaluate that slot until LYLO
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Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

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Duuuuude this is messing with me, is the disney character "Goofy" the original and then the name became an adjective or was the character named after the adjective

Coz if the character first thats wild man. Imagine inventing a whole new word for the dictionary just by ur fictional character. Thats cray-cray
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Time to work those buns HIYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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On vacations is what u are and we say GO GO. Sing it together!noones lazy in lazy town! No-no-do it together!noones lazy in lazy town! Ta-ra-ba-pa-pam-pam-param-ram-tararararam

Find a beat to express yourself, show them who you arrrre. On a vacations what u are and we say Go Go
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i need to learn how to breathe
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Michelle wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:14 am
Grogu wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:11 am
Michelle wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:17 am
Grogu wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:14 pm God I am under such a spell from jagged...
I forgot the word you cook kids use. I feel like I’m a pretty girl following this awesome, cool good looking guy into the woods to see his adopted puppies he saved from a fire cuz he’s a badass hero. I’m totally falling in love right before I’m being choked and my life is slowly leaving me. His last words were: everything is going to be alright my love, just close your eyes now. My name is Ted btw...

***(No characters were harmed in this short story, no players were insulted or called Ted bundy, this is a short fantasy crime story about love)
Grogu, just keep posting :nicenod:
Hello my petit AU chocolat
Do you wish a short story about you?
Follow your heart :)
Gather up children, I got to tell y’all a story. This goes a long long time ago, your grandpa was a lot younger and handsome. I was always a free soul back then, I liked the ladies a bit too much. I always wanted to settle and find true love, but just could never find the girl of my dreams.

Times were tough on dating since we were still living the COVID-19 Pandemic at the time. There was a vaccine, yet most people did not had access to it. We all had to wear mask and follow lots of rules. Well one night I could not sleep well, I had this dream of the beach and I was with an amazing girl, it was so realistic, yet when I woke up all I could recall was her lips and smile. I tried going back to sleep to finish the dream or get more details, I felt it was unfinished as if I could somehow get the contact info for this imaginary woman who made me feel so happy and complete. Nothing worked, I instead spent hours tumbling in bed until the sun came up.

On this cold morning in late January 2021 I was tired and hungry. I decided to get up and go have breakfast. I wanted to experience something new, I did not want to go to my usual spot Denny’s which was a national chain back then and that is when the idea hit me. I had been dreaming about the beach and there’s a beach walk nearby that had lots of cool and chic food places with outdoor seating just meters away from the beach.

I walked by a lot of them just to see which caught my eye. Most places were very busy, lots of people sitting and then there was this smaller place called Petit escargot de mer au Chocolat. (Later I found out it means small chocolate sea snail of the sea) It was a small bakery and there was not one soul there, I said well here I am.
It might be awful, but no wait. I sat down and the lady quickly came to great me and take my order. This middle age lady was so kind and had such kind blue eyes and a very sincere smile, she treated me with such kindness and appreciation that I was taken aback. I’ll start with a fresh squeeze OJ if you have any please.
Of course! She reply hastily. I’ll make it myself she shouted with a slight French accent which always makes me smile for some reason. I glanced at the menu to break eye contact and instantly saw it, I quickly added that I’ll take a ham and cheese croissant before she disappeared to make my juice. I was watching the waves come and go while I wondered if the water was way too cold in January. I removed my mask so I could breathe in the fresh air of the sea and that’s why I was interrupted by a young waitress; Hi, here’s your croissant. Would you like anything else?
I sat there for a few seconds and just said no thanks with a smile. Truth is that hearing Croissant with a French accent just makes me smile every time.
The girl had light brown eyes and had a resemblance to the older lady. Since they had to wear mask I could not see her whole face so wasn’t sure but they looked related I thought.
I had my breakfast and I signaled for the check.

The young waitress came out again, I glanced at her name in her name tags while she was asking why I wasn’t having dessert.
Well Michelle I said: I kinda want to lose some weight to be in beach shape. To which she replied: you look great! You must have our specialty, is a croissant shaped like a sea snail filled with chocolate. That’s the name of our place she said in a full French accent “Petit escargot de mer AU chocolat”
I just giggled, it was too cute and I quickly apologized. Sorry Michelle the French accent is so cool. I tell you what, if you help me eat it then I’ll order it that way I don’t fully cheat on my diet.
She smiled I believe under the mask by her expression and said deal!

She came right out with two small plates and a chocolate croissant in one of the plates. I asked her she had to sit down to which she looked inside and said : OMG my mom might freak out but ok quick.
She sat down as I cut it in half and she removed her mask.

I JUST FREAKING FROZE I could not move a muscle as I stared at her lips and her smile. It was the strongest deja vu I ever had in my 30 years. Michelle asked if I was ok?
I just blurted out: OMG you are the girl of my dreams Mich... and just stopped because I knew that sounded so creepy. I’m sorry I said. She was blushing and had turned tomato red.
We both started to eat and said nothing more until the end.
I tried making small talk by saying the obvious; soooo that’s your mom? God I felt so lame asking such question.
Yeah she replied. Then silence just became awkward for a minute.

As she was getting up I thought about the dream and had a sudden burst of courage. HEY Michelle would you like to go on a date with me? Somewhere where your mom is not watching us like she is now and I laughed. She looked inside and her mom was just dumbfounded looking at us trying to figure out what just happened.
I would love to she said as she walked away. Moments later she came with the check and added her cell phone number in the bill.
The croissant was on me she said with a wink.
I looked at the bill and it said:
310-474-2272
The girl of your dreams ;)

It was at that moment that I found love and I did not know it yet.
That weekend and every week after that we were the happiest couple and our love still strong till this day. I save you all the details kids but we loved the beach and frequent it a lot, we had our first kiss there while watching the romantic almost red sunset one evening. We felt at home and at last that was were we met, even had our wedding and it all started as a dream.
We had the best days and some late nights that blurred into early mornings led us down by the same beach. We found That falling in love during unprecedented times was a gift. It is the chance to bottle freedom of your soul, to open that gift when we needed most, years later.
We were survivors of a Pandemic, nothing could prevent our Love story.


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This is a short original story from I dream I had them I added details I obtained this game and used michelle name just for role playing. I hope everyone understands this, all characters are fictional and created by King Grogu (tm) any similarity to actual persons, living or dead, or actual events, is purely coincidental.
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Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

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@nutella

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@Michelle please Tell your partner is just a story for fun. I just saw you mention them lol.
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tutuu wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 9:27 am What do u do when ur partner(s) do stuff that u dont like Michelle?

For instance - i have played my hearts out this game, im voting for a likely scum, i managed to recognize when im tunneling multiple towns and get off of them, mafia determined me big enough of a threat to try to kill me - and yet i still read posts of people tinfoiling me that i could be a liar and an "unfaithful" partner
don't ask :noble:

Just play the game and scum hunt. Don't give up!
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Ok now I really broke the record. Now only this is 10 times more posts than ever, I also just spend 2 hours writing that story.
Wow Grogu is really into this game, thanks for the company everyone. It has been a very pleasant experience so I wanted to give back to the community. Time for breakfast now
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Tuttu so it solve is Nutella and who else?
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I hope @JaggedJimmyJay dont get jealous his story was short.
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I’m gonna watch queen gambit. I’m hooked
@ me if you need to ask me anything I’ll see it later.
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Grogu wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:07 am Tuttu so it solve is Nutella and who else?
not nutella, alison
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Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

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Michelle wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:05 am
tutuu wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 9:27 am What do u do when ur partner(s) do stuff that u dont like Michelle?

For instance - i have played my hearts out this game, im voting for a likely scum, i managed to recognize when im tunneling multiple towns and get off of them, mafia determined me big enough of a threat to try to kill me - and yet i still read posts of people tinfoiling me that i could be a liar and an "unfaithful" partner
don't ask :noble:

Just play the game and scum hunt. Don't give up!
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tutuu wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:01 am @nutella

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Oh this confused me. I like Nutella that’s why
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hola
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Grogu thanks for the story, I had to work so I read the first part and I will finish it in over night

I really have to find that post from Alison I remember rang a bell. It was when I was talking about wagonomics of day 1 and she scolded me iirc but I need to read it again
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To be read part 2
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nutella wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:10 pm genuinely don't think i've ever "powerwolfed" in my life

i would absolutely have bussed by now
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:12 pm Something I am considering about nutella: her pushes have largely been bad, that is irrefutable. The same can be said for me, so it's hard for me to take that to the bank. She shares another similarity with me though that I think should be taken into consideration. She hasn't just "made bad pushes" -- she has been topsy turvy in her preferences among those bad pushes. If nutella was genuinely invested in deciding whether we should chop Long Con or Ellie, and then invested in whether we should chop Michelle or Made or Ellie -- that would suggest her views were most likely genuine. I have a feeling a mafia nutella would have been a bit more laissez-faire in that scenario since all of them were town anyway -- she couldn't lose.
staypositivefriend wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:14 pm alison/doom/koba/esooa/grogu/jagged/nanook/nutella/tutuu

i feel comfortable removing nanook and DOOM from that pool right now, pending re-evaluation on LYLO. it feels weird to remove DOOM from that pool, but that's where my brain is taking me

so that leaves alison/koba/esooa/grogu/jagged/nutella/tutuu

now we're getting warmer, but i hesitate to comfortably remove any more names from that pool. grogu's appeals to me feel so heartfelt that i'm almost tempted to, but i feel that would be a mistake if i think about the game from a holistic perspective. one of koba or esooa would probably be the first names i would look at to further remove from this pool
Grogu wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:15 pm :confused:
Alison wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:01 pm
Grogu wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:58 pm
Alison wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:23 pm
Grogu wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:20 pm I love how Alison complaints about being consensus POE but then has me in all the worlds. Has no real read on me yet I’m scum with every possible team. Yikes
I don't have you in all the worlds. I have you as a possibility, that's all. It could be nutella/DOOM/JJJ, for instance. I don't think you really understood my solve post because you've made comments about it (like asking why I think Esooa is a wolf) that don't match up to what I said at all.
You had her as possible deep wolf. Then gave her an easy out.
Why put her in there only to then explain only why she’s town and not scum? Doesn’t match up
I believe nutella/tutuu contains one or more wolves. I am trying to convince people that nutella/tutuu contains one or more wolves. To do that, I must first convince them that a deepwolf exist. Then, I must convince them why nutella/tutuu are the most likely deepwolves out of the possible deepwolves. To do that I have to examine the likelihood of the other deepwolves being true, including Esooa.
There is way more than one deep wolf. There’s at least 2 and Nutella isn’t one of them. You do understand that if all the consensus are wrong then all the wolves are deep yes?
I am town.
You are town?
I think omega she’s town too.

So talk to me... if you are town and me and omega also town how many deep wolves there are???
Answer is between +2 and 3.
Which is more than 1. So kindly add wolf essoa to your list. You are welcomed
nutella wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:17 pm walk me through why you passed by koba and jay so easily and jumped to there has to be one in me/tutuu?
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Alison wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:15 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:14 pm alison/doom/koba/esooa/grogu/jagged/nanook/nutella/tutuu

i feel comfortable removing nanook and DOOM from that pool right now, pending re-evaluation on LYLO. it feels weird to remove DOOM from that pool, but that's where my brain is taking me

so that leaves alison/koba/esooa/grogu/jagged/nutella/tutuu

now we're getting warmer, but i hesitate to comfortably remove any more names from that pool. grogu's appeals to me feel so heartfelt that i'm almost tempted to, but i feel that would be a mistake if i think about the game from a holistic perspective. one of koba or esooa would probably be the first names i would look at to further remove from this pool
Remind me again why you're clearing DOOM?
i expanded on that a bit in this post: http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 20#p710120

doom has just consistently outed posts that feel diametrically opposed to someone coming from a mafia perspective today - i think that she could be scum if the game goes to a LYLO situation, but nothing inspires me to consider her a realistic part of the POE right now
nutella wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:21 pm you say I "fit the deepwolf archetype better" but what on earth does that mean when i'm out of scumrange and tutuu isn't
nutella wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:25 pm in order to not be too hypocritical (hi papa sloon) i prob should consider esooa more (and this is another one idk why alison isn't) bc she fits the same ""archetype"" of having pushed tons of townies

and mac warned us about her scumrange
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Esooa wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:24 pm @Allison reads list pls unless you've posted one recently
Towncore: DK, Esooa, nanook, nutella, tutuu, JJJ
Knocking on the door: SPF, DOOM
Townread: Grogu
POE: Michelle, Made, Ellie

DOOM and Grogu move around a bit, but this is roughly where I have them at right now. JJJ has been too in-sync with me today for me to leave him out of the towncore, and I don't think mafia is in a good enough position that they can afford to just have the exact same stance as me to pocket me. If JJJ is scum he has to push his own agenda, not just sheep me. I've had a couple of interactions with SPF that make me more confident about her, and that's why she's knocking at the towncore's door. I particularly liked the "chill" vibe I got from her when I quizzed her about how she feels about people not clearing her.
Alison wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 5:07 am Grogu has moved in my reads. I'm still conflicted because his actual pushes are kinda opportunistic on a base level but I don't have a hard time believing he would do this as town and he comes off as honest and transparent in his posting.

I'm seeing more tinfoil towards the "middle" slots like me/SPF/JJJ/nook. I currently have townreads on all of these players and no particular inclination to tinfoil any of them.
^^two posts from alison from yesterday that pinged me at the time, and ping me slightly more now. they are focused on asserting the incorrect consensus POE while downplaying the possibility of tinfoils in the "middle" slots.

in fairness to alison, she started entertaining "tinfoil" shortly after making this post, but i want to present these for posterity's sake
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:31 pm Most of the "good stuff" is pure wifom, so I am not inclined to play that game right now. Grogu's read on Omega is all over the place. Omega hasn't taken a terribly aggressive approach with Grogu as a suspect. I cannot comfortably separate them.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:25 am This might be my most confident review so far -- I don't think Esooa and Grogu look like mafia teammates.
welp

either this is true or the team is exactly these two and jay loooool
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A note for a behaviour I don't like from Nutella, she don't talk about reads, just throws worlds.

I still have 2 pages to read, this catch up killed me slowly
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Esooa wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:36 am gamers I have

white wine,
scotch,
grapefruit/rose vodka,
honeydew sake

what should I drink

@DkKoba
red wine :wine:
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part 3 and now that I read all, @nutella share your reads for everyone please
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:00 am Do DaughterOfOmega and DkKoba fit together as mafia teammates?
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:05 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:01 am If DK/Omega works, then DK/Grogu can work too. It's a less severe version of the same phenomenon.
If so, [Omega, Grogu, DK] is a functional team. It's just one so I'm not throwing a party, but it's one.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:01 am If DK/Omega works, then DK/Grogu can work too. It's a less severe version of the same phenomenon.
If so, [Omega, Grogu, DK] is a functional team. It's just one so I'm not throwing a party, but it's one.
p much zero chance that's the team imo lol
DaughterOfOmega wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:11 am Yes, no mafia have died and they are close to winning, but I decided on d3 that I will bus my partner that was not in trouble of dying instead of pushing Alice more.

Seems like a fun perspective from Jay, the conclusions he comes to are just good for mafia lmao
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DaughterOfOmega wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:10 am LMAO Jay is trolling with these low quality "reads" he is actively working on
i'm getting more worried about him tbh
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:13 am Extremely frustrating to work so hard only to be ridiculed for it.

Ain't nobody here done a thing to win this game anymore than I have, so kiss my butt. Maybe my reads are bad. I don't know. But all I can do is try.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:01 pm Willing to entertain Alison as mafia if Michelle is town. Okay
this is one of the better points

and some of the pre-ellie-flip stuff

i can see most of this either way
nutella wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:29 am ok @JaggedJimmyJay there's plenty of stuff in there that could go either way

your analysis ends at a point earlier today when esooa was still anti-alison but as soon as alison came in with her big defense+push esooa moved to her corner and has been firmly in it ever since, how do you feel about that shift?
nutella wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:33 am another passing thought: one of alison's defense points was that she would never be the first mafia member to go/get bussed. but does that hold up if she's not actually the deepest wolf, ie in a world where her teammates are, say, esooa and jay?
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nutella wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:10 pm especially in a game like this where consensus poe slots have flipped town and we're arriving at a place where there must be a deepwolf. of course i've had some wrong reads then, everyone has


yes i went very hard against lc and extremely hard against michelle

yes i'm disappointed


that's not how i would play it as a wolf tho
I don't have any intention to consider valid meta and how someone is playing usually in this game iykwim
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Grogu wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 9:58 am We were survivors of a Pandemic, nothing could prevent our Love story.
This is so romantic Grogu, wish you happiness!
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I feel anxious waiting for the flip can we end the day already please waiting is stressful
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Of course not, time zones is a thing and Spf said she has things to post
And she is not the only one

You promised you will scumhunt tutuu.. What means scumhunt for you?
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I already scumhunted
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And?
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And what?
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You don't have results, how exactly you did it?
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I do have results, im voting alison and waiting on the flip, i have a bunch of townreads too
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tutuu wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:54 pm I do have results, im voting alison and waiting on the flip, i have a bunch of townreads too
can you link me your reads, I think while catching up I forgot about the most recent posts probably because I don't remember your reads
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They arent in one post, so here

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DkKoba wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:18 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:17 pm
Alison wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:13 pm I had you as a confident townread yesterday. Now I'm less confident. I don't know how good your scumgame is or how capable you are of faking a mindmeld with me. Your plus points today are that you've outputted a pretty chill vibe in the face of pressure and bad developments for scum, and your negative points today are that you don't seem particularly eager to look into the towncore to see if you've gone wrong there.

What's your read on the people in the towncore? Do you still trust them after the claims?
I'll be looking into everybody. I am just starting with my current POE and their interactions, because that will help to inform my view of my town reads. If enough people in my POE are bad fits together, then something must be off there.

I'll be reviewing the town reads in isolation after that. Until I do that, my gut read is my gut read. nutella still seems very town to me. Nanook seems a lot more town today than he did pre-claims. tutuu seems very town today including post-claims.

Esooa is a pretty strong town read that now finds herself in my POE just because there's room for her. So I am considering a lot of stuff right now.
cool ur still twisting what i said for an agenda and its making me reconsider how i view ur slot considering the momentum shift today
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:19 pm
DkKoba wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:13 pm this would hold weight if i had literally at any point posted a reads list and/or didnt also lack reads on other slots
You should probably make reads on those slots eh
or how about u acknowledge that ur trying to twist things into an agenda here.
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Alison wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:13 pm I had you as a confident townread yesterday. Now I'm less confident. I don't know how good your scumgame is or how capable you are of faking a mindmeld with me. Your plus points today are that you've outputted a pretty chill vibe in the face of pressure and bad developments for scum, and your negative points today are that you don't seem particularly eager to look into the towncore to see if you've gone wrong there.

What's your read on the people in the towncore? Do you still trust them after the claims?
I'll be looking into everybody. I am just starting with my current POE and their interactions, because that will help to inform my view of my town reads. If enough people in my POE are bad fits together, then something must be off there.

I'll be reviewing the town reads in isolation after that. Until I do that, my gut read is my gut read. nutella still seems very town to me. Nanook seems a lot more town today than he did pre-claims. tutuu seems very town today including post-claims.

Esooa is a pretty strong town read that now finds herself in my POE just because there's room for her. So I am considering a lot of stuff right now.
cool ur still twisting what i said for an agenda and its making me reconsider how i view ur slot considering the momentum shift today
What? I didn't even mention you in that post
idc ur post trying to tie me to alison annoyed me
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DkKoba wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:13 pm this would hold weight if i had literally at any point posted a reads list and/or didnt also lack reads on other slots
You should probably make reads on those slots eh
or how about u acknowledge that ur trying to twist things into an agenda here.
My agenda is to solve the game. I don't know you or your alignment, so if you're town try to see my point of view.

ignoring factual parts of my play to fit a theory is not a pro-town agenda thx
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DkKoba wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:24 pm ignoring factual parts of my play to fit a theory is not a pro-town agenda thx
What did I ignore?
i already told u and im not repeating myself
DkKoba wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:28 pm [VOTE: JJJ] aubergine
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:03 pm Immediately emerging note from my Alison analyses:

For my current POE (Alison, Grogu, Omega, DK, Esooa) to be correct, then my analysis suggests the team would have to be exactly [Alison, Grogu, DK]. Alison fits poorly with Esooa and Omega. If it isn't exactly that, then I already have something wrong. So please y'all, take a look at my shit and tell me how you feel. My reads haven't been great this game, so I cannot claim to have piles of confidence.
ur just saying words but ok
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DkKoba wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:08 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:03 pm Immediately emerging note from my Alison analyses:

For my current POE (Alison, Grogu, Omega, DK, Esooa) to be correct, then my analysis suggests the team would have to be exactly [Alison, Grogu, DK]. Alison fits poorly with Esooa and Omega. If it isn't exactly that, then I already have something wrong. So please y'all, take a look at my shit and tell me how you feel. My reads haven't been great this game, so I cannot claim to have piles of confidence.
ur just saying words but ok
I'm trying my best. If you don't respect it, that's a you thing. But I'm trying my best.
can u stop like gaslighting me cuz u have been constatnly calling me maf and yet ur like appealing to me like im town so which is it?

I'm clearly not mafia with this person. Fix your solves.
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@Made @nutella I don't give a damn about wifom, that's obvious. ^
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Why cant two wolves fake rudeness between themselves in a game where so many townies expressed rudeness and got townread for it?
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Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

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tutuu wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:58 pm They arent in one post, so here

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@Michelle you asked for my reads and this order tutuu just posted is quite close to my own. with tutuu herself a but lower bc in the case alison flips green i would consider the tutuu scum worlds. Some of the others in the middle could be swapped around, it is always fluctuating
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Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:02 pm @Made @nutella I don't give a damn about wifom, that's obvious. ^
yeah sure so esooa swaps in for one of you
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Re: Bread Mafia [Day 3]

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tutuu wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:04 pm Why cant two wolves fake rudeness between themselves in a game where so many townies expressed rudeness and got townread for it?
1) I wouldn't do that because it's terrible behavior.

2) They said I was gaslighting them and treating them like they're town. That's just not what teammates say. It's very easy.

Confirmation bias may stand in the way, as well as people who are sick of the game and just want to force themselves into a solve so they can feel finished, but it's wrong.
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