Lost Again Mafia (Season 3) - Day 5

#841

speedchuck wrote:That last line of my post does, actually.

It actually doesn't/

speedchuck wrote:I thought about something and came back:

speedchuck wrote:
Marmot wrote:And for my next trick, I'll do a Sockface impersonation.
Dyslexicon
Epignosis
FZ.
DrWilgy
Elohcin
insertnamehere
JaggedJimmyJay
Long Con
Luke11646
MovingPictures07
speedchuck
nutella
Does the order of the yellows matter?
This is a quote from Currents Mafia, Dom, a towngame of mine.

Dom, I'm voting you because, FMPOV, it's either you and Epi, you and Sorsha, or Sorsha and Epi. If Epi is really the player he says he is (and if not I have a whole day to change), then he is not teamed with sorsha. That leaves...

Let's see why...
If Epi is who he says he is, then he isn't teamed with Sorsha. That leaves:
Dom and Sorsha
Epi and Dom
In your view.
So why vote Dom?
It doesn't really add up because you skipped the part of the logic where you decided I'm the biggest threat of the three. Tha'ts because you don't have any logic to get you there.

#842

speedchuck wrote:DOM
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If Dom is bad, he may have known that DF would have a momentary fake flip, and have planned a towny-looking response. I'm not sure what was with the fake flip. It also makes sense that he dropped in, tried not to lynch DF, and saw that voting me would end in a tie OR Epi/SVS told him not to make a tie in scumchat. Sorsha wasn't here, I don't think.

For some reason, about halfway through the game, Dom stopped being as coherent, with his writing style AND with his post content. He's perfectly coherent still in other games. I'm not sure why he's throwing people off like that, but it's probably indicative of something.

If Dom is good, he's putting in low effort and hopting we take up the slack. His response to DF's fake flip was genuine, despite that the game should have ended there if it was so. Since the Mass Effect mafia game started, he's been throwing little bits into the thread when he can, giveing Mass Effect priority. Just little bits of spam thoughts and reads.

Dom's votes:
1. none
2. Nutella
3. Nutella
4. DF

Absent D1, sticks to his guns on D2 and 3, already discussed D4.

Let's examine this, in particular that enlarged line.

If My teammate was DFaraday, why the hell wouldn't I just vote speedchuck and have the lynch be randomized between the people that voted for the two of them? If I have one other teammate, then the odds are much lower that one of us die? Why wouldn't I do that? If a civ was lynched, my team would be all but set to win. Anyone who has been a team with me knows that I don't wait around for my BTSC to tell me what to do either.

#843

Dom wrote: If Epi is who he says he is, then he isn't teamed with Sorsha. That leaves:
Dom and Sorsha
Epi and Dom
In your view.
So why vote Dom?
It doesn't really add up because you skipped the part of the logic where you decided I'm the biggest threat of the three. Tha'ts because you don't have any logic to get you there.

Threat? I don't care who the biggest threat is. You all have one nightkill. As you say, I have:

Dom and Sorsha
Epi and Dom

If Dom is on both lists, then he has a higher chance of being scum that Sorsha or Epi. It's not about threat. It's about hitting probable scum.
Every scum is an equal threat to the town. They have one kill, and one vote. I have one vote.

linki:
If you did force the tie, there was 3/8 chance that scum dies. 1/4 chance that the death was scum and NOT df, outing a lot of information and giving town another free lynch.
Why would a scum person play with those odds rather than lynching DF and putting themselves in an excellent endgame position?

To be fair, what I and you would do in that position may be quite different. I'd have offed DF unless I could coordinate with other scum to break the tie. I wouldn't have tied it.

#844

7 hours remaining.

#845

Last minute change in today's plans:

I'm going to be out of town. I'll be around to phone post but it won't be much. Apologies in advance but I'll still contribute as much as possible.

#846

Welp.

Sorsha hasn't been here in three days. If she doesn't come back (and if she's town), we need literally every remaining townie to get together and vote this MYLO. If she's scum, then I guess that makes things better and worse.
Feeling pretty bad about this, not gonna lie.

#847

MP, I know you aren't here, and are kinda the lynchpin of town's hopes and dreams. (at least for me

)

But your vote is on me, and it's going to lose us the game. Allow me to appeal to my own meta.

Non-town:
Phenon Mafia - lasted till endgame
Ghetto Gardening Mafia - Lasted till cornered by a solved game at the end. Last mafia alive.
CYOMRCGTG Mafia- Lasted till cornered by a solved game at the end. Last mafia alive.
Credithunt - Last surviving mafia. I won. Was hardly suspected at any point.

In all of my non-town games, whether I won or lost at the end, I was considered very, VERY towny. The whole time. Either something mechanically condemned me by the end, or I won. (Or Phenon happened, but to be fair, that was as close as could be)

Vanilla town/functionally vanilla:
Currents mafia - lasted until after I got townfirmed, then killed
Themefia - lasted till the end, died on the final lynch to lose the game
FTL Mafia - Daykilled on D3
Adventure Mafia - Survived in a town win.
Winefia- Was a town item-seeker/lynchcontroller that was never able to activate - lynched D4
Frozen Hearts mafia - town messenger - lynched D2

Not once killed by the mafia (except for my currents townfirm, which was caused by me being sketchy). Why? Because I suck as vanilla town. I'm always one step ahead of being lynched, and either I survive the game by the skin of my teeth, being a target mafia doesn't want to kill, or I get lynched or shot by town.

Town Power Role:
Prettiest Princess mafia: Was cop. Lived and won on D2 (small game)
Terminal 13 Mafia - Was scientist. Got four different anti-alignment checks. Died N4.
Tiny Barbie Hunt - Was basically cop. Died N2.
Dersehunt Intermission - Died N1.
Traffic Jam Mafia - Town Chauffer - lynched D5
City Slickers Mafia - Vengeful Item-seeker - Killed N5

As a power-role, I'm usually able to use my information to keep me alive until the mafia catch wind of it.

So anyways: I'm ok at town. I'm decently good at mafia. I'm terrible at vanilla town, and it serves me well for survival.
If I was scum, I'd be up with SVS in reads most likely. I'd have good targets, good posts, and I'd know where to put my vote right now. But no, I'm vanilla town. I have NOTHING. And I don't want this game to end like Themefia did for me.

There's my meta, though a bit over-simplified, for the past 3.5 years. I hope to God that I won't lose this game for town.

#848

Switching to Sorsha for now.

#849

I got stuck late at work.

Speedchuck, you are doing a super job of being sincere. I am having a hard time thinking you could be bad.

So at this time I am gonna vote for Sorsha, becasue I honestly don't think Epi or Dom are bad. If one of them is, it is more likely to be Dom, though. But I feel better about him than about Sorsha, I guess.

So I am gonna vote now, after I walk the dog I will eat in front of the computer.

#850

I'll be back around deadline. Switching to Sorsha.

#851

I don't like like this at all. Maybe it is Epi and SVS.

#852

MovingPictures07 wrote:I don't like like this at all. Maybe it is Epi and SVS.

Maybe it's Maybelline.

#853

#854

Well this was a disappointing day period, save for speedchuck's contributions.

I don't know what I can even do at this point other than hope it's Sorsha.

#855

MovingPictures07 wrote:Well this was a disappointing day period, save for speedchuck's contributions.

I don't know what I can even do at this point other than hope it's Sorsha.

It's probably not, but that's just how things have gone this time.

If Dom fabricated his DF reaction, it was a good move and I approve.

If S~V~S pretended to leave in a huff, then I know something about how she engages suspicion that will be useful to me in the future (and future attempts on her part will be utterly disregarded).

If speedchuck is bad, he's done a good job acting like he isn't of late.

I have no problem losing to a mafia that played well (see FZ.'s latest win). I have a problem losing when civilians act a fool.

#856

And if you're bad?

#857

Sorsha hasn't voted and everyone has piled onto her except Dom.

That's worth talking about.

#858

MovingPictures07 wrote:And if you're bad?

I did not play well.

#859

Epignosis wrote:Sorsha hasn't voted and everyone has piled onto her except Dom.

That's worth talking about.

Yeah, that's true.

#860

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Sorsha hasn't voted and everyone has piled onto her except Dom.

That's worth talking about.
Yeah, that's true.

It's worth talking about. I just really don't know what to say.

#861

I'm with Epi on this one. If SVS and Dom are scum, GJ. Particularly SVS.

#862

intense

#863

speedchuck wrote:
Dom wrote: If Epi is who he says he is, then he isn't teamed with Sorsha. That leaves:
Dom and Sorsha
Epi and Dom
In your view.
So why vote Dom?
It doesn't really add up because you skipped the part of the logic where you decided I'm the biggest threat of the three. Tha'ts because you don't have any logic to get you there.
Threat? I don't care who the biggest threat is. You all have one nightkill. As you say, I have:

Dom and Sorsha
Epi and Dom

If Dom is on both lists, then he has a higher chance of being scum that Sorsha or Epi. It's not about threat. It's about hitting probable scum.
Every scum is an equal threat to the town. They have one kill, and one vote. I have one vote.

linki:
If you did force the tie, there was 3/8 chance that scum dies. 1/4 chance that the death was scum and NOT df, outing a lot of information and giving town another free lynch.
Why would a scum person play with those odds rather than lynching DF and putting themselves in an excellent endgame position?

To be fair, what I and you would do in that position may be quite different. I'd have offed DF unless I could coordinate with other scum to break the tie. I wouldn't have tied it.

your math is wrong but ok

#864

Bruh I'm an engineer. My math is right. Show me where an error is.

#865

Day 5 has ended

Sorsha has died. She was

Golden wrote:

Hurley, dude. You are a vanilla civ

The mafia have won the game.

Spoiler: show

In the mean time, Charlie has successfully turned off the jamming signal preventing people from making it to and from the island... what could that mean? You'll all have to come back to find out in

Lost Again Mafia (Season 4)TM. Coming to a Heist near you.

#866

bzzzzzzzzzzt

#867

I should've stuck with dom. Then we could have survived one more day before losing.

I feel vindicated that we at least didn't pick me or Epi.

Good game to the mafia, as I was just saying. Wow, even. Fantastic, especially to SVS.

#868

I do want to know who was revealed accidentally and who would have died D1 if Llama hadn't messed up the tie.

#869

speedchuck wrote:I do want to know who was revealed accidentally and who would have died D1 if Llama hadn't messed up the tie.

Golden lied with that one. He actually revealed Dom and SVS as DF's teammates in the role reveal, so he had to sub me out to cover it up.

#870

Frankly, the civvies played like crap this game, so we deserved to lose. When I have the highest post count after four days, the civvies are in bad shape.

#871

I could have put more effort into this game, I admit. Sorry for that Golden - I'd just hit sort of a mafia slump of sorts.

#872

Quin wrote:intense

It's pandemonium!

Epi I am so sorry. If it helps I did it for Golden. After Quin was revealed as alive I blew an absolute hissy fit in BTS which made him feel bad. I had to make it up to him.

#873

Quin wrote:
speedchuck wrote:I do want to know who was revealed accidentally and who would have died D1 if Llama hadn't messed up the tie.
Golden lied with that one. He actually revealed Dom and SVS as DF's teammates in the role reveal, so he had to sub me out to cover it up.

This.

Unfortunately it was a function of my stupid work computer having post regression issues. I edited it out on my screen, but it was still there when it was actually posted. I had been doing so well pressing refresh at every point but on that one I went straight from 'preview' to 'submit' without refreshing the page. So annoying.

I had to lie about what it was, since it would inherently apply that any townie I subbed out was town. I'm fast with lies when I have to be. Put that one on your meta list.

Spacedaisy would have lost the tie on the first day. For funsies, I also randomised the day where Dom nearly created a tie, and SVS would have gone on that day.

#874

Quin wrote:
speedchuck wrote:I do want to know who was revealed accidentally and who would have died D1 if Llama hadn't messed up the tie.
Golden lied with that one. He actually revealed Dom and SVS as DF's teammates in the role reveal, so he had to sub me out to cover it up.

I mean... that is an accidental reveal.

#875

speedchuck wrote:
Quin wrote:
speedchuck wrote:I do want to know who was revealed accidentally and who would have died D1 if Llama hadn't messed up the tie.
Golden lied with that one. He actually revealed Dom and SVS as DF's teammates in the role reveal, so he had to sub me out to cover it up.
I mean... that is an accidental reveal.

Yes... it just wasn't the 'wrong role'. It was the entire mafia team.

Also, Quin is fast. I edited it as soon as I posted it, quite literally.

#876

Golden wrote:
Quin wrote:
speedchuck wrote:I do want to know who was revealed accidentally and who would have died D1 if Llama hadn't messed up the tie.
Golden lied with that one. He actually revealed Dom and SVS as DF's teammates in the role reveal, so he had to sub me out to cover it up.
This.

Unfortunately it was a function of my stupid work computer having post regression issues. I edited it out on my screen, but it was still there when it was actually posted. I had been doing so well pressing refresh at every point but on that one I went straight from 'preview' to 'submit' without refreshing the page. So annoying.

I had to lie about what it was, since it would inherently apply that any townie I subbed out was town. I'm fast with lies when I have to be. Put that one on your meta list.

Spacedaisy would have lost the tie on the first day. For funsies, I also randomised the day where Dom nearly created a tie, and SVS would have gone on that day.

See Dom? I told you that it was a bad idea.

#877

I'm surprised that Dom wasn't lynched today after his vote at EoD. Maybe I'm speaking with a bias, but that vote looked really bad for him.

Congrats to the baddies, you did well to win.

#878

Golden wrote:
speedchuck wrote:
Quin wrote:
speedchuck wrote:I do want to know who was revealed accidentally and who would have died D1 if Llama hadn't messed up the tie.
Golden lied with that one. He actually revealed Dom and SVS as DF's teammates in the role reveal, so he had to sub me out to cover it up.
I mean... that is an accidental reveal.
Yes... it just wasn't the 'wrong role'. It was the entire mafia team.

Also, Quin is fast. I edited it as soon as I posted it, quite literally.

I was refreshing like crazy

#879

Quin wrote:I could have put more effort into this game, I admit. Sorry for that Golden - I'd just hit sort of a mafia slump of sorts.

Everyone agreed to vomp it lol. That's going to lead to town losses.

Everyone needs games where they don't play as hard though. I tend to get lynched when I have mine.

Also, another note. Dom had no warning that I was going to do what I did with DF. It was only briefly and was just fun on my part. So good on him for running with it.

#880

Fun fact: every single one of my game thread posts began with the letter F.

#881

G-Man wrote:Fun fact: every single one of my game thread posts began with the letter F.

Fun fact - your legacy post called out as bad every living civilian that wasn't confirmed

#882

Golden wrote:
G-Man wrote:Fun fact: every single one of my game thread posts began with the letter F.
Fun fact - your legacy post called out as bad every living civilian that wasn't confirmed

Fits my meta as a lousy civvie perfectly.

#883

Golden wrote:
Quin wrote:I could have put more effort into this game, I admit. Sorry for that Golden - I'd just hit sort of a mafia slump of sorts.
Everyone agreed to vomp it lol. That's going to lead to town losses.

Everyone needs games where they don't play as hard though. I tend to get lynched when I have mine.

Also, another note. Dom had no warning that I was going to do what I did with DF. It was only briefly and was just fun on my part. So good on him for running with it.

#884

Golden wrote:
Quin wrote:I could have put more effort into this game, I admit. Sorry for that Golden - I'd just hit sort of a mafia slump of sorts.
Everyone agreed to vomp it lol. That's going to lead to town losses.

Everyone needs games where they don't play as hard though. I tend to get lynched when I have mine.

Also, another note. Dom had no warning that I was going to do what I did with DF. It was only briefly and was just fun on my part. So good on him for running with it.

I'm sure it isn't fun having lots of people approach your game that way, so I'm sorry for the subpar performance. Although, I did make the decision to play a more gut-based game after a little bit and it did pretty well in catching DF.

#885

I am happy that I no longer ever have to consider S~V~S' emotional bullshit.

Checks cashed.

#886

Epignosis wrote:I am happy that I no longer ever have to consider S~V~S' emotional bullshit.

Checks cashed.

I did it for Golden : shrug:

#887

Also I was genuinely confused about Quin.

#888

Dom wrote:
Golden wrote:
Quin wrote:I could have put more effort into this game, I admit. Sorry for that Golden - I'd just hit sort of a mafia slump of sorts.
Everyone agreed to vomp it lol. That's going to lead to town losses.

Everyone needs games where they don't play as hard though. I tend to get lynched when I have mine.

Also, another note. Dom had no warning that I was going to do what I did with DF. It was only briefly and was just fun on my part. So good on him for running with it.

I was thinking that what people were clearing you for was weird, because it was the exact same thing as what I said about DF: 'the game's over, so why would he still be making accusations if he was town?'

Still an impressive game on your part. It was only when I subbed out that I started suspecting you (and that's likely pretty biased...)

#889

notsawyer540 wrote:Listen carefully, vote Dom then DF. I needed the vote so I couldn't say anything. Trust me.

notsawyer, out!

AHEM!

Good job, guys! SVS had me fooled (I thought #3 was Epi until today, then I had no idea). Good game!

#890

Watching SVS when bad is like looking at a work of art.

Except when you're on the receiving end of it. Then it's like a 20 foot wall you can't find your way over.

Who killed poor Charlie?