Blue Velvet Mafia {THE END}

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What parts of the game do you feel worked?

Open BTSC + Traditional Mafia Teams
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Number of additional teams which slowly arose over the course of the game
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Night Event Polls
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Flavor Text in Posts/Graphics
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Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 5}

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Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 5}

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Sloonei wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:57 am Voting for DH could potentially return Nutella to us, and we'd still easily have the numbers to lynch Long Con tomorrow.
Yeah, do that. Split the votes, be indecisive. :shifty:
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Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 5}

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Eh, we can lynch DH later. Best we can do is match with three, and with the votes cast as they are, nobody will back out.

I'm pretty darn certain LC is the last scum. Dunno what'll happen with the nightkill after he dies, but whatever.
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Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 5}

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What makes you so sure I am the last scum?
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Long Con wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:11 am Um, you guys mean Epignosis, right? Why are you voting me, I'm Civ and Epi is bad. I'm the real Mark, or Mike, or whatever. :nod:

The game turned into one that the baddies can't win as soon as the Role List was revealed in an open claiming game. I mean, maybe if the baddies' fake claims (assuming they have them) were revealed in the list as well, then it could have still been a game. This would have been a lot easier if we could have revealed the Role List on Day 1, really, then we could have all just claimed and lynched them quick and tidy with minimal Civ losses.

If the Role List hadn't been revealed, then Epi wouldn't have been able to jump in and fool you all by claiming my Civ role, and we would have been lynching him. So he absolutely deserves to die today more than I do, in all the ways that count.
Ahahaha, sorry, nice try, but the entire reason we believe Epi is because he claimed Mike (to a few of us in PM) long before the role list was revealed.
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Sloonei wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:57 am Voting for DH could potentially return Nutella to us, and we'd still easily have the numbers to lynch Long Con tomorrow.
What do you mean by this? I can't "return" to you, and I don't think DH could either. My team needs to outnumber the civs to win.
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LC, the best thing for you to do is quit the act, join the rest of us in being totally open, and just go along with DH's plan as it offers you the best chance at a win.
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Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 5}

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Long Con wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2017 2:59 pm What makes you so sure I am the last scum?
Epi claimed in PMs in advance.
You refuse to work against the 3P players, which would guarantee a scum loss.
Your whole playstyle right now is saying "I'm not scum" while accepting all of the offers directed at scum and declining all of the offers made at town.

If you are town, vote for nutella or DH. Do it.
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Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 5}

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Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 5}

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Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 5}

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Crap, guys. DH could be sparky.

You know what? Next time I play a game based on a movie, I'm going to look at the cast list and RP the crap out of a character that I'm not playing. Just to screw with people.
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Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 5}

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nutella wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2017 3:06 pm LC, the best thing for you to do is quit the act, join the rest of us in being totally open, and just go along with DH's plan as it offers you the best chance at a win.
:rolleyes: Wrong. The best thing for you to do is join the act, because it's funny. What exactly would you have me do differently? Vote for someone else? I... just... can't vote for Mutiny yet because the poll doesn't exist. So I do not understand what you're asking of me here.

And listen to both of you, "Epi claimed Mike in PM long ago, so it's true". Guess what, the baddies got fakeclaims. I claimed Dr Gynde to Dyslexicon at the outset of the game in a PM. If the Role List reveal happened the way it should have, then the fakeclaims would have been included. Instead, it shut down any further Mafia gaming and it's only due to this mutiny thing that the game is still going.

If Dr Gynde had been in that Role List reveal, then we would all be voting for Epignosis today, I promise you that. So don't get all smug and self-assured with a roleclaim by PM, because next time it happens, you probably won't have a surprise Role List reveal to show you how razor-thin your assumptions actually are.
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Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 5}

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No we wouldn't.
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Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 5}

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Epi appealed to speedchuck and I via PM after DH and Nutella publicly declared their intentions. I can't picture Epi doing something like this unless he's 100% earnest about it. That is why I'm voting for Long Con. Plus roleclaim stuff.
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Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 5}

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Ignoring that, you're still going along with the 3P strategy. If you were really Civ, you'd want to work with Civs and take out a 3P to make this game numerically improbable for mafia to win.
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Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 5}

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Epignosis appealed to me privately via PM telling me he thinks Sloonei is the last mafia and that we should lynch him ASAP
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Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 5}

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Sloonei... you would have been the kill tonight, after we lynched Epi. :feb: Only because you did so well with the S~V~S case. Pure Civ right there... gotta go.
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Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 5}

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Sloonei wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2017 3:51 pm Epi appealed to speedchuck and I via PM after DH and Nutella publicly declared their intentions. I can't picture Epi doing something like this unless he's 100% earnest about it. That is why I'm voting for Long Con. Plus roleclaim stuff.
"Appealed" how? Telling you he's Civ and his name is Mike?
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Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 5}

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To be totally fair I did warn you guys against voting for the role reveal option.
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Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 5}

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So the reason for the odd kill choices were:

LLama and SVS were mafia
Long Con was Mafia
I asked not to be killed until Phase 2
Killing Epi would have put too big a target on the only active mafia

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Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 5}

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DharmaHelper wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2017 4:00 pm Epignosis appealed to me privately via PM telling me he thinks Sloonei is the last mafia and that we should lynch him ASAP
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Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 5}

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DharmaHelper wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2017 4:03 pm To be totally fair I did warn you guys against voting for the role reveal option.
I was obviously way too optimistic about how it would go. :haha:
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DharmaHelper wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2017 4:08 pm So the reason for the odd kill choices were:

LLama and SVS were mafia
Long Con was Mafia
I asked not to be killed until Phase 2
Killing Epi would have put too big a target on the only active mafia

Funny.
I try not to kill Epi when I'm Mafia, more fun to try and lynch him. :srsnod:
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Epignosis has time to appeal to people privately via PM but not enough time to watch the seminal classic Quick Change
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How fucking wild would it be if this plan worked holy shit.
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Should I choose heads or tails?
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DharmaHelper wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:09 pm How fucking wild would it be if this plan worked holy shit.
And dude.... you know you can always count on me to go for the win via a zany plan. :srsnod:
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Long Con wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:23 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:09 pm How fucking wild would it be if this plan worked holy shit.
And dude.... you know you can always count on me to go for the win via a zany plan. :srsnod:
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Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 5}

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Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 5}

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Wouldn't it have made more sense to not try and lynch LC?

I mean now I'll either end up with the kill and a 50% chance to win or a mutiny and a 100% chance to win.
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Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {NIGHT 5}

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NIGHT 5

154. INT. STAIRS AND LANDING - BEN'S APARTMENT - NIGHT

Raymond clutches a case of Pabst Blue Ribbon. Next to him is Dorothy, standing perfectly still, and looking straight ahead. Her eyes are dead. All the fight has left her.

They're in front of a dingy apartment, with stained, rusted walls. Raymond steps up close to Dorothy.
RAYMOND
One wrong move. That's all it's gonna take.


He steps back, and starts banging on the door.
FRANK
Hey Ben. OPEN UP. It's Raymond.


A tall, slender man with a smoking jacket and a powdered face opens the door. It's BEN. His voice is effeminate, disarming, and ever so threatening.
BEN
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Raymond. Come in. Where's Frank?

RAYMOND
Dead. Along with Paul, too. Shit's happened

BEN
Welcome. Come sit down, and we'll talk about this nasty business.


155. INT. BEN'S APARTMENT - NIGHT

The apartment is very large. All the furniture is over-stuffed. In the room there is a very much over-weight WOMAN dressed in black and a greasy-looking COUPLE. On the couch, a YOUNG WOMAN plays with a large doll.
BEN
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Darling, get some glasses. We'll have some beer with Raymond. Won't you sit down?


Raymond sits down, while Dorothy remains on her feet, still staring into the distance.

BEN
So, Raymond. Who killed Frank and Paul?

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This fuckin' teenager. Just threw a knife in Frank's goddamn face. But, believe me, you don't have to worry about him. He's been dealt with.

BEN
I know.

RAYMOND
What? Excuse me?

BEN
A teenage boy did this, right? Well, I caught a teenage boy harassing my men during their business hours. Apparently, he thought Frank killed his girlfriend.

RAYMOND
What happened to him?

BEN
The same thing that happened to Frank and Paul. Killed in the most unfortunate circumstances. It was quite a shame, really. He was quite the football player, apparently.

RAYMOND
No, no, no. The kid who killed Frank was named Jeffrey. He wasn't no football player, too big of a pussy.


The large woman re-appears with glasses.
BEN
Hmm. In any case, both of them are dead. Thank you, darling.


Ben takes the glasses, and starts pouring out the Pabst Blue Ribbon.

BEN
Now, we must worry about business.

RAYMOND
I don't...I don't see a reason why things have to change at all. You were dealing with Frank, now you're dealing with me-

DOROTHY
Is my husband here?


Her sudden interjection, in fact, her first sign of life in the entire conversation, comes as a slight shock to both me.

RAYMOND
Shut the fuck up! Ben, is he here?


Ben sighs.
BEN
He's in the back room. Let her see him.

DOROTHY
Thank you, thank you, thank you.


The young woman opens up a door, and Dorothy rushes inside.
BEN
Back to what we were saying, I don't think that arrangement is very feasible.


Raymond tenses.

RAYMOND
What do you mean?

BEN
I think the solution is simple. What was once Frank's business, is now my business.

RAYMOND
And where does that leave me?

BEN
Frank was your boss, now I'm your boss. Although, you may be looking at a bit of a demotion. After all, you let your previous employer get killed.


Raymond angrily stands up.
RAYMOND
You're fuckin' me over, aren't you? You goddamn bastard. I always told Frank you were a fuckin' liar.


Ben smiles.

BEN
Raymond, Raymond. Calm down. Sit down. No need to raise your voice. Now, we're both reasonable adults, and we should converse as such.


Raymond sits back down, still fuming. The YOUNG WOMAN creeps behind him.

DOROTHY (O.S.)
Don! Don! What on earth did they do to your face?

RAYMOND
I'm...I'm not asking for all of Frank's territory. Just some of it...to prove my worth, y'know?

BEN
Of course. A trial that leads to greater opportunities.


The young woman gets closer and closer.
RAYMOND
Yes! Right on the fuckin' bullseye. "Greater opportunities," I like that. Frank always said you were one suave fuck, and now I see-


BANG.

The young woman puts up her smoking gun.

Bits of Raymond flow around the carpet. His corpse slouches off the seat.

Ben sighs, and sips his beer.

BEN
(to himself)
Now I have to go and clean the carpet.


Epignosis has been killed. He was Mike, a vanilla civilian.

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Lynched Epignosis as a Civilian. Checking it off my to-do list for this game. Pleased.
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You're welcome INH.
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Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {NIGHT 5}

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Let's do this. Good luck to me or sloonei, whichever survives the night. Hope you get into the final three and trounce the fourth.

Tell ya what: Kill sloonei and not me, and I'll make sure the mutiny goes through if I get in, rather than screwing the game over for you, LC.
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Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {NIGHT 5}

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No you should for sure tank the mutiny.
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Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {NIGHT 5}

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But with nut, DH, and myself voting Mutiny, it will go through without your help, right?

The thing is, I don't really know how it works. When it wins, does it randomly go to either me, or the surviving Civ? I don't know!
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Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {NIGHT 5}

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Long Con wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:50 pm But with nut, DH, and myself voting Mutiny, it will go through without your help, right?

The thing is, I don't really know how it works. When it wins, does it randomly go to either me, or the surviving Civ? I don't know!
The event will happen regardless.

Three people who chose the event will be given a choice to mutiny. If all 3 accept, a mutiny occurs.
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Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {NIGHT 5}

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Long Con wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:50 pm But with nut, DH, and myself voting Mutiny, it will go through without your help, right?

The thing is, I don't really know how it works. When it wins, does it randomly go to either me, or the surviving Civ? I don't know!
When it wins tonight, it becomes an option tomorrow. ANYONE who opts in tomorrow gets in. Three of those that opted in are randomly selected. If all 3 say yes, mutiny happens.

If I get in, I promise to say yes. Give sloonei the 3/4 chance of going in, and he might say no. I swear, I will allow the mutiny through.
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Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {NIGHT 5}

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So... can I kill no one, and Mutiny with speed and sloon, and we all win?
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Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {NIGHT 5}

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Long Con wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:57 pm So... can I kill no one, and Mutiny with speed and sloon, and we all win?
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Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {NIGHT 5}

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The purpose of the mutiny was because the mafia and the independent faction can't win together as is.
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Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {NIGHT 5}

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Long Con wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:57 pm So... can I kill no one, and Mutiny with speed and sloon, and we all win?
I think so, but that's if the odds magically give us the mutiny. It would choose three of us out of 5. 1 in ten chance of any particular team. Trust me, I'm a math person.
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Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {NIGHT 5}

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No matter what happens, whoever is left tomorrow gets to randomly opt in to win.

Reminder: The technical realignment won't take place till after tomorrow's lynch as well.
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No no... you misunderstand. I meant all three of us join you and nutella on Team Mutiny, and five players win. I understand wrong?

DH, I'm not considering betraying you, I am just trying to get a comprehensive understanding. :noble:
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Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {NIGHT 5}

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Or you could kill one of them and improve your odds of being mutinous by a significant margin.


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Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {NIGHT 5}

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LC if you kill one of the civs tonight and we lynch the remaining civ tomorrow, then you, me, and Nutella will automatically be chosen for mutiny and enter the next night technically on opposite teams but once we confirm mutiny we win.
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Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {NIGHT 5}

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Oh, the kill is already sent in.

I was considering changing it to a no-kill, if the three of us could join your team and win. Sounds like there's too much uncertainty involved, so I'll kill one S-name, and we will lynch the other S-name tomorrow.
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Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {NIGHT 5}

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Different mutiny teams, LC.

And yeah, DH is correct. The kill and lynch can just decide arbitrarily who wins.
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Welp. GG. I tried.

This is so silly.
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