Phenon: Origins Mafia [END]

[Spacedaisy]

I already ranted in the observer chat, so I'm not going to say anything here. Congrats on the win, Jay.

Sorry if I pissed you off

[dunya]

Proof that the greatest Mafia player can more than compensate for the greatest fool. Performance of the year, bar none, for JJJ.

I thought it was ballsy of you. I like your spunk. You guys just got so unlucky with speedchuck.

[dunya]

was great fun to watch, I think Daisy and MP did admirably well in the face of scumJay. Well done Jay

Don't worry Daisy, we'll get revenge on him one day

[speedchuck]

I already ranted in the observer chat, so I'm not going to say anything here. Congrats on the win, Jay.

Sorry if I pissed you off

You didn't. More general frustration and unfamiliar strategies.

[Tangrowth]

I just wanted to say I really screwed the pooch on this one, sorry fellow townies. I just did not have adequate time to play this game even as much as I did, and that was not nearly enough. That final phase in particular came at a bad time and was compounded by some shit dumped on my lap with corrupted files yesterday. Long story short, I'm not going to playing mafia again for quite some time until I at least get through this phase where I'm juggling job applications/interviews, dissertation, teaching, research, etc.

I knew Jay was lying; there was no way he would have claimed that late if he was doctor, but I did a really shitty job of arguing it due to a complete lack of time. Very well played by him nonetheless.

Thanks to sprityo for hosting such a unique and cool game, sorry for not being an ideal participant.

[Principal Skinner]

Wow. Holy crap. I wasn't following very closely at the end but...... Bravo, Bravo. Jay can play a successful baddie game after all.

[Principal Skinner]

Proof that the greatest Mafia player can more than compensate for the greatest fool. Performance of the year, bar none, for JJJ.

Yeah, this is a Socky-worthy performance

[Kylemii]

At least 40% of the reason I trusted Bravo was because I thought he was Sloonei.

[Sloonei]

At least 40% of the reason I trusted Bravo was because I thought he was Sloonei.

I'm so trustworthy people follow me when I'm not even playing.

[dunya]

At least 40% of the reason I trusted Bravo was because I thought he was Sloonei.

I'm so trustworthy people follow me when I'm not even playing.

I miss threads where I can type what I want to say so I am drawn to this thread to do that. I never knew how tiring talking could be, considering I thought I was a big talker.

also I came in here to agree with Kyle, in sock puppet games I often mistake you guys for each other initially. It's not hard to do.

[Sloonei]

At least 40% of the reason I trusted Bravo was because I thought he was Sloonei.

I'm so trustworthy people follow me when I'm not even playing.

I miss threads where I can type what I want to say so I am drawn to this thread to do that. I never knew how tiring talking could be, considering I thought I was a big talker.

also I came in here to agree with Kyle, in sock puppet games I often mistake you guys for each other initially. It's not hard to do.

Is that a general "you guys", or are you referring to me and jay particularly?

[dunya]

At least 40% of the reason I trusted Bravo was because I thought he was Sloonei.

I'm so trustworthy people follow me when I'm not even playing.

I miss threads where I can type what I want to say so I am drawn to this thread to do that. I never knew how tiring talking could be, considering I thought I was a big talker.

also I came in here to agree with Kyle, in sock puppet games I often mistake you guys for each other initially. It's not hard to do.

Is that a general "you guys", or are you referring to me and jay particularly?

sorry, yes, you and Jay specifically.

[dunya]

In Seinfeld, I thought he was you and you were him for a 1 or 2 phases at least.

[dunya]

Then JAY broke out

[Sloonei]

I can always tell us apart

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Sloonei is my apprentice and I am his disciple.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Proof that the greatest Mafia player can more than compensate for the greatest fool. Performance of the year, bar none, for JJJ.

Thanks LC. Your being outed was just crap luck, and I really should have been more conscious of the India-as-oracle threat before we killed him. Of course he would ID the guy who fake claimed.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

A few thoughts on the game:

~ A game without flips favors the mafia team in a vacuum. That much is definitely true. I think sprityo did an admirable job of trying to find creative ways to bring the balance back, within his power. The oracle role was really cool, and it obviously did great work in this game. The ratio was also a good counter-balance at 9 vs. 2. I honestly expected a civilian at some point to talk about that, because 8 vs. 3 in a game with no flips would be inhumane. Overall I do think Long Con and I still had some advantage, and had we been able to utilize the disguiser role this could have gotten ugly.

~ One of the biggest advantages we enjoyed wasn't a result of the setup, but rather the progression of the game. It was slow. Slow games benefit the mafia team. All things considered, I didn't play this game with the intense, immense effort that is often associated with my civilian play. The game was paced such that I could half-ass it by my standards and still be one of the top two in post count for the entire game. It's much easier to assert control over a thread that is snailing along than one that is moving at light speed (see: Mountain Mafia).

~ Speaking of Mountain Mafia, it feels really good to play a strong game after laying an egg in that one. I needed a comeback. Thank you to everyone who has offered kind words about my play.

[nutella]

At least 40% of the reason I trusted Bravo was because I thought he was Sloonei.

I actually thought he was Quin for a while lmao

[JaggedJimmyJay]

True story, one of my first ideas in the baddie chat was to pretend I was someone else so I wouldn't be expected to JJJ all over the thread. LC convinced me to be me.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

At least 40% of the reason I trusted Bravo was because I thought he was Sloonei.

I actually thought he was Quin for a while lmao

and when I opened the game with "hi hi" I was literally impersonating Quin

[nutella]

OK good, I thought it might have been intentional. Several things about your wording/style in the beginning looked quinly.

[nutella]

And even the times you posted to some extent IIRC.

[Quin]

My style can't be faked that easily.

[Epignosis]

True story, one of my first ideas in the baddie chat was to pretend I was someone else so I wouldn't be expected to JJJ all over the thread. LC convinced me to be me.

LC is a great guy. We do have our blowups from time to time, but whenever I think of someone I look up to as an evildoer, it's Long Con.

That's probably why he drives me fucking insane when we're both good.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I'd be amused to see the spectator chat if the people in it are comfortable sharing.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I'm laughing now that I realize we were trying to tip toe around a doctor all game long with our kill selections. There was no doctor. Indeed, I killed Foxtrot because he was my top candidate to be the doctor.

[speedchuck]

Real talk: who guessed that I was me?

Someone that isn't on phone should link spectator chat

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Real talk: who guessed that I was me?

Someone that isn't on phone should link spectator chat

I did pretty quickly. I can't recall what tipped me off exactly, but I remember guessing it was you just before you slipped with your account. It made me laugh.

[Long Con]

Proof that the greatest Mafia player can more than compensate for the greatest fool. Performance of the year, bar none, for JJJ.

Thanks LC. Your being outed was just crap luck, and I really should have been more conscious of the India-as-oracle threat before we killed him. Of course he would ID the guy who fake claimed.

Well, of course, but we assumed I'd be well into someone else's sockpuppet, leaving Echo as a dried-out husk, before hitting the Oracle. The Disguiser role must be tried again.

True story, one of my first ideas in the baddie chat was to pretend I was someone else so I wouldn't be expected to JJJ all over the thread. LC convinced me to be me.

That is true, I thought if you played as "obvious JJJ" then people would believe in you more.

[Kylemii]

Is there an award for Least Valuable Player, because I pretty much trusted Jay every second up until my death.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Is there an award for Least Valuable Player, because I pretty much trusted Jay every second up until my death.

You're still the one I elected to kill last (which was an extremely difficult choice that I agonized over). I figured that of the three civilians left, you would be the most likely to look like a shining beacon of obvious civilian paranoia in a LyLo phase. You were a variable I didn't think I was likely to handle well, and that ought to be a feather in your cap.

[Long Con]

Is there an award for Least Valuable Player, because I pretty much trusted Jay every second up until my death.

Pretty sure I have that award locked up.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Mafia chat

We originally had a QuickTopic, but there were technical difficulties.

[Kylemii]

[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] honestly I was expecting you to die cus I thought YOU were the obvious shining civvie beacon. The moment I saw I was dead I was like "oh shit the mafia is bravo".

I was going to even post something along the lines of "hey I probably won't die but if I do die tonight probably look at bravo" but I decided not to cus I didn't want to risk steering the thread into a ditch post mortem.

If both you and I had survived to the last day phase I think I might have started to realize there was a reason why you hadn't died despite being largely trusted by most if not all.

You played a really good game, and you won so I don't have to feel bad about being tricked by you because you tricked everyone else too.

[Kylemii]

you were going to murder me night 1 :0

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I was going to even post something along the lines of "hey I probably won't die but if I do die tonight probably look at bravo"

This was the mindset I expected from everyone regardless of who I chose to kill. Either Golf has to wonder why the hell anyone would keep her alive with me, or Alpha has to slip deeper into tinfoil hell and turn on me, or Hotel has to reaffirm the original suspicions.

I knew I was in for a LyLo dogfight no matter what I did and it definitely turned out that way.

[Kylemii]

but you did it regardless. congrats.

also thank you sprityo for the game, I'm sorry the two power roles died almost immediately the Disguiser role would have been fun to have to deal with

[DrWilgy]

I'm laughing now that I realize we were trying to tip toe around a doctor all game long with our kill selections. There was no doctor. Indeed, I killed Foxtrot because he was my top candidate to be the doctor.

Technically...

[sprityo]

I'm laughing now that I realize we were trying to tip toe around a doctor all game long with our kill selections. There was no doctor. Indeed, I killed Foxtrot because he was my top candidate to be the doctor.

Technically...

[Long Con]

but you did it regardless. congrats.

also thank you sprityo for the game, I'm sorry the two power roles died almost immediately the Disguiser role would have been fun to have to deal with

I was going to kill Juliet and keep the freestyles going.

[Marmot]

but you did it regardless. congrats.

also thank you sprityo for the game, I'm sorry the two power roles died almost immediately the Disguiser role would have been fun to have to deal with

I was going to kill Juliet and keep the freestyles going.

I would not have minded at all.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Real talk: who guessed that I was me?

Someone that isn't on phone should link spectator chat

Still interested in seeing this if you have a link.

[speedchuck]

Real talk: who guessed that I was me?

Someone that isn't on phone should link spectator chat

Still interested in seeing this if you have a link.

http://www.chatzy.com/57697453145751

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Real talk: who guessed that I was me?

Someone that isn't on phone should link spectator chat

Still interested in seeing this if you have a link.

http://www.chatzy.com/57697453145751

Thanks!

Kind of funny, the moment where I was called fake for saying I couldn't self-protect. I actually did ask sprityo if the doctor could do that earlier in the game because it would inform my kill selection, and he said no.