Tree Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Marmot]

TREE MAFIA

for 13 players

The Trees [10] - those who wish to stand.
The Fellers [3] - those who fell trees.

This game will use one (1) of the following set-ups, chosen randomly at the start of the game. The set-up will not be revealed during the game.

Paradigm #1 --- This Paradigm was randomly selected ---

• 9 Vanilla Civilians
  1 Civilian Cop
  3 Mafia

Paradigm #2

• 8 Vanilla Civilians
  1 Civilian Cop
  1 Civilian Doctor
  3 Mafia

Paradigm #3

• 9 Vanilla Civilians
  1 Civilian Doctor
  3 Mafia

Paradigm #4

• 10 Vanilla Civilians
  3 Mafia

[Marmot]

FORMAT
1) Day periods last 48 hours. Night periods last 24 hours. No thread discussion is permitted at night, except that each player is permitted one reaction post to the lynch.
2) Mafia may only interact in BTSC at night. They will select a player to nightkill during these periods.
3) The player with the most votes each day will be lynched. Only votes made in the lynch poll will count. Ties will be decided with a coin flip.
4) Votes in the lynch-poll are changeable. On Day 1, there will also be a No Lynch option. Self-votes are permitted.
5) The civilian cop will get one free "peek" before Day 1 begins. On ensuing night periods, the cop may select another player to role-check.
6) The doctor will select one player to protect from the mafia's nightkill each night period.
7) No double-targeting (targeting the same player on consecutive nights).
8) All players on the side of the winning faction will also win, whether dead-or-alive.
9) All roles will be revealed upon death.
10) Role-claiming and info-dumping are permitted. Each player will receive a Role-Card corresponding with their alignment. Each mafia member will also receive a fake Role-Card that is similar to a civilian's.
11) At the end of the game, players may submit votes to the host for the MVP of the game.

RULES
1) No asshattery will be tolerated. This is a game, and is intended for the pleasure of everyone. Please be respectful to your fellow players, host, and mod.
2) BTSC (behind the scenes chatter) is only permitted in host-designated locations. Dead players and Non-players, there will be a Spectator Chat thread, so please make sure you post in the correct thread if you are taking advantage of this function.
3) No editing or deleting of posts in the game thread.
4) Dead players should post in the {Dead} Red if they are posting in the game thread.
5) Non-Players should similarly post in {Non-Player} Blue if they are posting in the game thread.
6) Living players wishing to discuss something off-topic should do so in {Off-Topic} Green.
7) This is the Host Color. Use it at your own risk.

[Marmot]

PLAYER LIST

1) a2thezebra - Posts
2) DFaraday - Posts
3) Diiny - Posts
4) DrWilgy - Posts
5) Enrique - Posts
6) Epignosis - Posts
7) FZ. - Posts / sig - Posts
8) JaggedJimmyJay - Posts
9) MacDougall - Posts
10) motel room - Posts
11) MovingPictures07 - Posts
12) Sorsha - Posts
13) TheFloyd73 - Posts

[Marmot]

ALIVE [2]

MacDougall - WINNER
TheFloyd73 - WINNER

DEAD [11]

Enrique - Lynched Day 1 - Cypress, Civilian Cop - WINNER
Sorsha - Killed Night 1 - Cedar, Vanilla Civilian - WINNER
DrWilgy - Lynched Day 2 - Spruce, Vanilla Civilian - WINNER
DFaraday - Killed Night 2 - Alder, Vanilla Civilian - WINNER
JaggedJimmyJay - Lynched Day 3 - Juniper, Vanilla Civilian - WINNER
a2thezebra - Killed Night 3 - Douglas-Fir, Vanilla Civilian - WINNER
Diiny - Lynched Day 4 - Saw, Mafia
Epignosis - Killed Night 4 - Aspen, Vanilla Civilian - WINNER
MovingPictures07 - Lynched Day 5 - Axe, Mafia
sig (replaced FZ. on Day 3) - Killed Night 5 - Willow, Vanilla Civilian - WINNER
motel room - Lynched Day 6 - Hatchet, Mafia

EVENTS

There is unrest in the forest - Day 1 Begins
Cypress is uprooted - Day 1 Ends - Enrique (Civilian Cop) is lynched.
Cedar is hacked - Night 1 Ends - Sorsha (Vanilla Civilian) is nightkilled by the Fellers.
Spruce is uprooted - Day 2 Ends - DrWilgy (Vanilla Civilian) is lynched.
Alder is chopped - Night 2 Ends - DFaraday (Vanilla Civilian) is nightkilled by the Fellers.
Juniper is uprooted - Day 3 Ends - JaggedJimmyJay (Vanilla Civilian) is lynched.
Douglas-Fir is hewn - Night 3 Ends - a2thezebra (Vanilla Civilian) is nightkilled by the Fellers.
Saw has been scrapped - Day 4 Ends - Diiny (Mafia) is lynched.
Aspen is felled - Night 4 Ends - Epignosis (Vanilla Civilian) is nightkilled by the Fellers.
Axe has been scrapped - Day 5 Ends - MovingPictures07 (Mafia) is lynched.
Willow is torn down - Night 5 Ends - sig (Vanilla Civilian) is nightkilled by the Fellers.
Hatchet has been scrapped - GAME OVER - motel room (Mafia) is lynched.

[Marmot]

DAY 1

There is unrest in the forest
There is trouble with the trees...

It is now Day 1. You have 48 hours to lynch somebody.

[Marmot]

The lynch poll will be up shortly.

[sig]

First

[a2thezebra]

Well I'm positive this is one of the paradigms featuring a vanilla civilian in it.

[Epignosis]

My bark is so much more than my bite.

[Diiny]

If a tree wins a poll in the forest but nobody is around to hear it, does it get lynched?

[Epignosis]

If a tree wins a poll in the forest but nobody is around to hear it, does it get lynched?

I don't know. It blight.

[Golden]

If a tree wins a poll in the forest but nobody is around to hear it, does it get lynched?

As a non-player, I'm not at liberty to contribute to answering this question.

[a2thezebra]

If a tree wins a poll in the forest but nobody is around to hear it, does it get lynched?

I don't know, Diiny.

[Enrique]

If a tree wins a poll in the forest but nobody is around to hear it, does it get lynched?

I don't know, Diiny.

I laughed.

[S~V~S]

Greetings

I will be your moderator. Hopefully this mellow tree centric environment makes this a chill thread. But if, for any reason, you lose the chill, feel free to contact me

[Marmot]

DAY 1

Who likes to chop down trees?

Poll ended at Tue Dec 01, 2015 6:18 pm

a2thezebra
0
No votes

DFaraday
0
No votes

Diiny
3
TheFloyd73 (4), Enrique (5), a2thezebra (8)
19%

DrWilgy
0
No votes

Enrique
5
JaggedJimmyJay (11), DrWilgy (12), MovingPictures07 (13), MacDougall (15), Diiny (16)
31%

Epignosis
1
FZ. (10)
6%

FZ.
2
motel room (6), Sorsha (7)
13%

JaggedJimmyJay
0
No votes

MacDougall
0
No votes

motel room
0
No votes

MovingPictures07
0
No votes

Sorsha
0
No votes

TheFloyd73
1
Epignosis (3)
6%

**No Lynch**
0
No votes

Geddy Lee (Hosts/Nons/DeadHeads)
4
Metalmarsh89 (1), S~V~S (2), HamburgerBoy (9), Golden (14)


Total Votes : 16

[Diiny]

If a tree wins a poll in the forest but nobody is around to hear it, does it get lynched?

I don't know, Diiny.

Don't worry, we'll find out soon enough. You got something to prove right off the bat, zeb?

[a2thezebra]

If a tree wins a poll in the forest but nobody is around to hear it, does it get lynched?

I don't know, Diiny.

Don't worry, we'll find out soon enough. You got something to prove right off the bat, zeb?

Not at all, I just want Day 1 to get meaty as soon as possible.

[TheFloyd73]

I gotta ask, MM, what inspired you to base this around trees?

[Diiny]

Talk to me about day one vanilla civ role claims. My question is: why bother?

Floyd's undermining your efforts as we speak

[motel room]

I am tree, hear me chlor-ophyll

[a2thezebra]

#4 is the only paradigm where all civilians are vanilla. This could become crucial later on.

[Diiny]

attempting to start conversation about currently barely-relevant game mechanics on day 1 seems like the opposite of a meaty day 1 to me and has a record of being pretty scummy behaviour.

but yeah, it could.

[Epignosis]

I'm voting Floyd. He said he wouldn't be playing Mafia for a while- yet here he is.

[Enrique]

Diiny

[Tangrowth]

Yay game!

Who wants to throw out peeks?

[a2thezebra]

attempting to start conversation about currently barely-relevant game mechanics on day 1 seems like the opposite of a meaty day 1 to me and has a record of being pretty scummy behaviour.

but yeah, it could.

Who said I was attempting to start conversation at all, let alone about something as silly as that? I'm starting the action itself (indirectly of course, but you better believe I will take full credit), and given that I have triggered the first mention of "scummy behaviour" in the game, it seems to have worked.

[Tangrowth]

Talk to me about day one vanilla civ role claims. My question is: why bother?

Floyd's undermining your efforts as we speak

Elaborate.

[Diiny]

I'm in the same boat as floyd, promised myself I'd do coursework and not write hundreds of posts about people's probable virtual alignment but here I am

MP: I've heard J talk about this before from champs. How does this thing where everyone gives out peeks work?

[Tangrowth]

attempting to start conversation about currently barely-relevant game mechanics on day 1 seems like the opposite of a meaty day 1 to me and has a record of being pretty scummy behaviour.

but yeah, it could.

Why didn't you vote zebra then?

[Epignosis]

Yay game!

Who wants to throw out peeks?

What do you think of Floyd?

[Enrique]

I gotta ask, MM, what inspired you to base this around trees?

[Diiny]

attempting to start conversation about currently barely-relevant game mechanics on day 1 seems like the opposite of a meaty day 1 to me and has a record of being pretty scummy behaviour.

but yeah, it could.

Who said I was attempting to start conversation at all, let alone about something as silly as that? I'm starting the action itself (indirectly of course, but you better believe I will take full credit), and given that I have triggered the first mention of "scummy behaviour" in the game, it seems to have worked.

I'm glad you agree it's silly and glad to know you weren't trying to get the thread talking about it. Why'd you post that, then?

[Tangrowth]

I'm in the same boat as floyd, promised myself I'd do coursework and not write hundreds of posts about people's probable virtual alignment but here I am

MP: I've heard J talk about this before from champs. How does this thing where everyone gives out peeks work?

The civilian cop gets a free ID on another vanilla civilian to start the game.

Assuming we are in a paradigm with a cop, it behooves the town to keep the cop alive as long as possible, as well as it does the cop to make sure that we know what their information might have been when they die.

Therefore, a "peek" is providing that free ID. For the cop, it would be the legitimate free ID; for a vanilla civilian, it would be a "fake peek" in an attempt to throw off the mafia.

Here Jay discusses peeks and fake peeks in detail in the Pet Sounds Mafia spectator chat. I highly recommend it for reading.

[a2thezebra]

attempting to start conversation about currently barely-relevant game mechanics on day 1 seems like the opposite of a meaty day 1 to me and has a record of being pretty scummy behaviour.

but yeah, it could.

Who said I was attempting to start conversation at all, let alone about something as silly as that? I'm starting the action itself (indirectly of course, but you better believe I will take full credit), and given that I have triggered the first mention of "scummy behaviour" in the game, it seems to have worked.

I'm glad you agree it's silly and glad to know you weren't trying to get the thread talking about it. Why'd you post that, then?

To gauge reactions, and not just from you. I think baddies are most vulnerable at the start of the game, so I'd like to raise the chances of catching them in the awkward stage before they've adjusted to the temperature.

It's like they're slowly dipping their feet into a cold pool and my job is to run up from behind and shove them in.

[Diiny]

Talk to me about day one vanilla civ role claims. My question is: why bother?

Floyd's undermining your efforts as we speak

Elaborate.

Virtually all of the time in this kinda setup everyone is going to claim vanilla town on day one. No reason to say it.

[Diiny]

attempting to start conversation about currently barely-relevant game mechanics on day 1 seems like the opposite of a meaty day 1 to me and has a record of being pretty scummy behaviour.

but yeah, it could.

Who said I was attempting to start conversation at all, let alone about something as silly as that? I'm starting the action itself (indirectly of course, but you better believe I will take full credit), and given that I have triggered the first mention of "scummy behaviour" in the game, it seems to have worked.

I'm glad you agree it's silly and glad to know you weren't trying to get the thread talking about it. Why'd you post that, then?

To gauge reactions, and not just from you. I think baddies are most vulnerable at the start of the game, so I'd like to raise the chances of catching them in the awkward stage before they've adjusted to the temperature.

It's like they're slowly dipping their feet into a cold pool and my job is to run up from behind and shove them in.

And how does what you posted about the setup raise the temperature for baddies?

[Tangrowth]

Yay game!

Who wants to throw out peeks?

What do you think of Floyd?

I think nothing of him.

I don't understand why he signed up if he really did want to take a break, but like Diiny I've been there many times myself, because I love the game. That said, I feel as though he's still trying to develop a playstyle. He struggled to post on-topic in Talking Heads, so one could say that he struggles to post on-topic more as mafia, but I'm not willing to make that jump just yet.

Why do you think he's mafia? Your observation has to do with a decision he made independent of his role card, so do you have any thread-specific thoughts on him yet?

[Tangrowth]

Talk to me about day one vanilla civ role claims. My question is: why bother?

Floyd's undermining your efforts as we speak

Elaborate.

Virtually all of the time in this kinda setup everyone is going to claim vanilla town on day one. No reason to say it.

I disagree, especially since I witnessed the Champs game where players tended to throw out peeks, so that they could fake (or real) claim cop later.

[Diiny]

I gotta ask, MM, what inspired you to base this around trees?

Yeah, of all the off topic stuff this one pinged me the most. I don't know why. It might be because this is already seriously reminding me of floyd's previous game where he was scum combined with that being his only game. Might be because it's an interaction with someone who isn't playing; it's more timid.

Floyd, say something game relevant please

[a2thezebra]

attempting to start conversation about currently barely-relevant game mechanics on day 1 seems like the opposite of a meaty day 1 to me and has a record of being pretty scummy behaviour.

but yeah, it could.

Who said I was attempting to start conversation at all, let alone about something as silly as that? I'm starting the action itself (indirectly of course, but you better believe I will take full credit), and given that I have triggered the first mention of "scummy behaviour" in the game, it seems to have worked.

I'm glad you agree it's silly and glad to know you weren't trying to get the thread talking about it. Why'd you post that, then?

To gauge reactions, and not just from you. I think baddies are most vulnerable at the start of the game, so I'd like to raise the chances of catching them in the awkward stage before they've adjusted to the temperature.

It's like they're slowly dipping their feet into a cold pool and my job is to run up from behind and shove them in.

And how does what you posted about the setup raise the temperature for baddies?

It creates more opportunities for them to accidentally reveal opportunistic/staged/disingenuous behavior. Case in point, why are you so interested?

[a2thezebra]

For the record, I am not remotely pinged by Floyd's post.

[Diiny]

Talk to me about day one vanilla civ role claims. My question is: why bother?

Floyd's undermining your efforts as we speak

Elaborate.

Virtually all of the time in this kinda setup everyone is going to claim vanilla town on day one. No reason to say it.

I disagree, especially since I witnessed the Champs game where players tended to throw out peeks, so that they could fake (or real) claim cop later.

In that scenario everyone is going to claim the same thing, though, and this is where my problem with doing so explicitly lies. With everyone providing peeks, everyone inherently claims cop. when we do our peeks zeb's claim is going to change to cop because she'll be providing her peek. providing peeks is a good thing, but my point is that there's no point to also saying 'I'm cop/civ/etc' in a setup where everyone is claiming the same thing other than pushing your own towniness.

[Diiny]

attempting to start conversation about currently barely-relevant game mechanics on day 1 seems like the opposite of a meaty day 1 to me and has a record of being pretty scummy behaviour.

but yeah, it could.

Who said I was attempting to start conversation at all, let alone about something as silly as that? I'm starting the action itself (indirectly of course, but you better believe I will take full credit), and given that I have triggered the first mention of "scummy behaviour" in the game, it seems to have worked.

I'm glad you agree it's silly and glad to know you weren't trying to get the thread talking about it. Why'd you post that, then?

To gauge reactions, and not just from you. I think baddies are most vulnerable at the start of the game, so I'd like to raise the chances of catching them in the awkward stage before they've adjusted to the temperature.

It's like they're slowly dipping their feet into a cold pool and my job is to run up from behind and shove them in.

And how does what you posted about the setup raise the temperature for baddies?

It creates more opportunities for them to accidentally reveal opportunistic/staged/disingenuous behavior. Case in point, why are you so interested?

You're telling me you posted that to get a conversation going to catch scum off guard, but a few posts ago agreed with me that starting such a conversation would be silly. What's going on?

I'm interested because of your responses to my prods. I'm trying to find out whether you're doing some prodding of your own as a townie or making yourself look good as scum. Help me out.

[Diiny]

Yay game!

Who wants to throw out peeks?

What do you think of Floyd?

what do you think of floyd?

[Tangrowth]

Talk to me about day one vanilla civ role claims. My question is: why bother?

Floyd's undermining your efforts as we speak

Elaborate.

Virtually all of the time in this kinda setup everyone is going to claim vanilla town on day one. No reason to say it.

I disagree, especially since I witnessed the Champs game where players tended to throw out peeks, so that they could fake (or real) claim cop later.

In that scenario everyone is going to claim the same thing, though, and this is where my problem with doing so explicitly lies. With everyone providing peeks, everyone inherently claims cop. when we do our peeks zeb's claim is going to change to cop because she'll be providing her peek. providing peeks is a good thing, but my point is that there's no point to also saying 'I'm cop/civ/etc' in a setup where everyone is claiming the same thing other than pushing your own towniness.

I'm not sure I fully understand your point, sorry. So you're saying you think claims are pointless?

[a2thezebra]

Diiny, that is not what I am telling you. I told you I am gauging reads with my actions; I did not tell you that I would be basing my conclusions off of any conversation. I'm curious; are you genuinely confused as to what I'm doing which is only a single instance of the foundation for my entire play style, or are you having me spell it out so explicitly so it will be less effective and the baddies I'm trying to discover will no longer have their guards down? Help me out.

[TheFloyd73]

I'm voting Floyd. He said he wouldn't be playing Mafia for a while- yet here he is.

I haven't played in two weeks, that's still a good amount of time. Also, how does this interfere with whichever role I am?

[Diiny]

Talk to me about day one vanilla civ role claims. My question is: why bother?

Floyd's undermining your efforts as we speak

Elaborate.

Virtually all of the time in this kinda setup everyone is going to claim vanilla town on day one. No reason to say it.

I disagree, especially since I witnessed the Champs game where players tended to throw out peeks, so that they could fake (or real) claim cop later.

In that scenario everyone is going to claim the same thing, though, and this is where my problem with doing so explicitly lies. With everyone providing peeks, everyone inherently claims cop. when we do our peeks zeb's claim is going to change to cop because she'll be providing her peek. providing peeks is a good thing, but my point is that there's no point to also saying 'I'm cop/civ/etc' in a setup where everyone is claiming the same thing other than pushing your own towniness.

I'm not sure I fully understand your point, sorry. So you're saying you think claims are pointless?

At a stage in the game where nobody's going to claim anything else, yes. But obviously it's not always pointless.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Hello. I'm foolishly on the Internet at 3:30 a.m. on a work night. My alarm is going off in two hours, so I'm not sticking around.

This is me advocating an active Day 1 and all that stuff rah rah rah *shakes pom poms*