Lost Again Mafia (season 1) - Day 6

#1001

Are you still?

My suspicions only wavered slightly on you Zebra, if you and Scotty were on the same team, he did a decent job of distancing.

#1002

DrWilgy wrote:Are you still?

My suspicions only wavered slightly on you Zebra, if you and Scotty were on the same team, he did a decent job of distancing.

Do you see where my vote is? Nah I'm just kidding, my vote means nothing today. I have three possibilities. You, Epi, and nutella. Bullzeye and S~V~S are both unlikely but possible. I went with S~V~S and voted for you, and obviously I don't trust her enough to follow through her current vote. At the moment, I think nutella is the most likely possibility. She's been the most quiet today. Whether that's for justified off-topic reasons or not is beside the point, because the three posts she has posted today are quite questionable. There's an analysis post regarding claims, the classic "what is happening" post, and then a very waffly post concerning top suspicions. Strange considering what day it is and what direction the game has gone in. Her recent two posts come across to me as a baddie trying to react as naturally as possible to the sudden likely lynching of me, and not sure what exactly to say given that she's already flip-flopped on me once before earlier in the game.

You're starting to convince me that you might be genuine as well. Your reactions to my posts of today seem like honest attempts to figure out what the deal is. Epi asking me about my role is notable as well, given that he hasn't (and probably won't, which is fine) reveal the reason why he asked. If that's an attempt to mimic a civilian trying to understand something, then it's a good one, because it seems genuine to me. So basically, here would be ideal lynch order.

nutella > Epignosis > DrWilgy > S~V~S > Bullzeye

Given how close we're going to be to LyLo, you folks can't relax and flip a coin or roll the dice to decide what you want the lynch to be. You're going to need to think before you vote, a teeny-weeny itsy-bitsy bit more than you did today. Look at everyone and don't let anyone go unnoticed. Everyone should be fucking INTERROGATED.

#1003

If you aren't bad Zebra, I promise to do my best to prevent the end game coin flip.

*Salutes*

#1004

DrWilgy wrote:If you aren't bad Zebra, I promise to do my best to prevent the end game coin flip.

*Salutes*

Careful Wilgy, I'm going to hold you to that promise. I'll haunt you for the rest of your mafia career if you don't keep it, regardless of your alignment here.

#1005

Lynch post is likely to be slightly late today.

#1006

nutella is still number one on my list to lynch. She came by and never responded to anything I had to say.

#1007

To be fair, when she last came by she didn't respond to anything at all that had happened since her claim analysis from before. I even asked her a question and she answered by saying that she hadn't caught up and that she didn't know what was going on.

#1008

This is the main source of my current suspicion of nutella. This post seems like she's trying to be on the fence with as many players as possible in case the tide turns in any particular direction. It seems like she doesn't want to be contrarian nor does she want to be too obvious, and that's apparent regardless of whether or not this post was published with little to no time on her hands. At first her suddenly thinking I was good seemed natural to me, but now that her initial distrust of me is shared by the majority, she seems scared to flip-flop a second time. In other words, she seems disingenuous.

nutella wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:What are your current top suspicions, nutella? Besides me of course, since everyone inexplicably suspects me now.
...I thought I had made it clear that I think Epi is the last baddie. I could be totally wrong of course, and if it's not him I'd then try Wilgy, then maybe you but I didn't really read today's posts that closely so I'm unclear on why everyone suddenly thinks you're bad, but I could be swayed.

But yeah she also didn't respond to you so she's bad because of that.

#1009

A question for Wilgy if he's willing to suspend his disbelief...is Epi not voting for me because he knows I'm good, or is nutella not voting for me because she doesn't want to flip-flop on my alignment more than once? Or is it something else entirely?

If you're unwilling to suspend your disbelief, feel free to answer the question after my flip.

#1010

I also just went through Scotty's posts and saw that nutella was the only person he put together a big case on- I didn't see that with anybody else.

#1011

You think he tried bussing the crap out of her?

#1012

...or perhaps someone else is bad?

Good luck civilians, you're going to fucking need it.

#1013

a2thezebra wrote:You think he tried bussing the crap out of her?

It just stands out is all. And look at the payout- if nutella did get lynched and was bad, the suspicion around Scotty would dissipate in the the damn ether.

It's just what's on my mind. That, and the fact that Nutty Bar kept calling me stupid redneck and things like that, and only recently came up with this notion that for some reason, I'm an impostor, but can't say why.

#1014

Nope, never mind me. That was Sorsha who called me a stupid redneck.

#1015

Zebra has been lynched. She was:

Spoiler: show

It is now night 5. It will last 23 hours.

#1016

Welp... Sorry Zebra. I'll do my best as I promised.

#1017

Well that's me wrong. I thought I was on a roll this game.

#1018

The question now is, do we think all the scum voted for Zebra day 2 or not?

#1019

That would make one of you or Nutella bad, and to be honest that's where I'm thinking the last baddie sits right now just on process of elimination...

#1020

What about Epi Bullzeye?

#1021

DrWilgy wrote:What about Epi Bullzeye?

Yeah, what about me?

#1022

Epignosis wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:What about Epi Bullzeye?
Yeah, what about me?

What about you?

#1023

Bullzeye wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:What about Epi Bullzeye?
Yeah, what about me?
What about you?

Wiggler asked.

#1024

Epignosis wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:What about Epi Bullzeye?
Yeah, what about me?

It's weird that you are the only unconfirmed (I'll just put SVS down as soft-civ) on Floyd day 2.

#1025

For srs though I don't think Epi would've hammed it up with the Sawyer references from so early on and for such a long time if he wasn't legit. I'm open to the idea I could be wrong though. At this point I'm open to anything.

#1026

Epignosis wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:What about Epi Bullzeye?
Yeah, what about me?
What about you?
Wiggler asked.

That was a reference to Jacob's question to Ben before he got shanked. Do you even Lost, bro?

#1027

Bullzeye wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:What about Epi Bullzeye?
Yeah, what about me?
What about you?
Wiggler asked.
That was a reference to Jacob's question to Ben before he got shanked. Do you even Lost, bro?

Hell yeah I do!

4 8 15 16 27 42

Boss.

#1028

Epi started the LOST thread in the entertainment forum.

Epignosis wrote:So I finally finished all of Lost.

What a crock of shit.

#1029

Yeah, those bozos shoulda hired me to write seasons 5 and 6.

#1030

The Smoke Monster got Glenn Frey today.

#1031

Epignosis wrote:The Smoke Monster got Glenn Frey today.

my bad

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #1032

Sorry I have been absent and not good at replying to stuff or defending myself. I am incredibly busy and haven't been able to check in much.

Zebra, sad to see you go. I still completely missed why everyone suddenly became convinced she was bad...

I don't really know what else to say to properly defend myself but I swear to Jacob I'm innocent and I really hope we can win this tomorrow. I still think Epi is most likely.

#1033

I just want to go brood in the jungle over the inherent dichotomy of being a good person, yet desiring to hurt people in a variety of frightening ways.

Sorry Zeebs. I should not have allowed myself to be so easily swayed.

#1034

:/

Nutella you must be aware that we are one lynch off lylo at this point.

If you are civ and unable to fill in the blanks of your mindset... We just lose... Should we concede now?

#1035

Who killed typh?

Poll ended at Tue Jan 19, 2016 10:46 am

Bullz
0
No votes
Drwilgy
1
a2thezebra (7) 8%
Epi
1
nutella (6) 8%
Nutella
1
Epignosis (12) 8%
Svs
0
No votes
Zebra
3
DrWilgy (8), Bullzeye (9), S~V~S (10) 25%
Golden (host)
6
Golden (1), Typhoony (2), Sorsha (3), Metalmarsh89 (4), TheFloyd73 (5), Turnip Head (11) 50%
Total votes : 12

#1036

Night 5 has ended.

Spoiler: show

You have 48 hours from when the poll goes up to lynch someone.

#1037

Don't you mean...

[spoiler]Boone[/spoiler]

...nyeh nyeh nyeh.

(Yes, I know that!)

#1038

Rico falls up the stairs, Rico falls down the stairs.

#1039

Amusing... The baddies wanted to prevent a coin flip LYLO and were confident enough to not put in the kill tonight... OR they forgot to submit, but I don't think that's the case considering that everyone had posted over the course of the night.

#1040

Regardless, I'm placing my vote on Nutella at least until we have a firm opinion and responses from her, and I guess we'll go from there...

#1041

I see I've got some work to do.

#1042

I actually reread most of this bitch, and have done some thinking.

I just popped in for a few minutes between family obligations. I think I have been seriously wrong about something from the beginning. I made an assumption, and Matt played me for all I am worth. Which wasn't much in this game, apparently. I will be out for several hours, just one question before I go.

Bullz, who do you most suspect?

#1043

S~V~S wrote:I actually reread most of this bitch, and have done some thinking.

I just popped in for a few minutes between family obligations. I think I have been seriously wrong about something from the beginning. I made an assumption, and Matt played me for all I am worth. Which wasn't much in this game, apparently. I will be out for several hours, just one question before I go.

Bullz, who do you most suspect?

I think you were honest that you wouldn't have killed Typh, though you did help kill Floyd during the ridiculous circumstances of day 2.

Epi had the chance to try to save Scotty but openly refused to take it. This could've been some hardcore risky distancing but as I've said before I don't think he'd have done the whole ridiculous Sawyer thing from the beginning if he was bad.

Wilgy I go back and forth on. His voting record isn't wonderful but there are living players and dead civs with worse ones. Overall he seems reasonable on a readthrough.

Nutella is the person I most suspect. She's been flip-flopping all game and never voted for a baddie. Not even Matt when it was super obvious he'd been outed by Floyd - despite acknowledging that this was the case. At one point she decided Wilgy and Scotty were baddie teammates, and voted Wilgy. A few hours before Scotty's lynch she said she thought he was genuine and then hours after the lynch (ie once Scotty was dead) shows up to say actually she'd become more convinced that Scotty was the baddie after all. She has the worst voting record of anyone alive and despite having made decent attempts at contributing, hasn't ever really said a word against either confirmed baddie except when it was too late.

*Votes Nutella*

Also I graduate on Thursday from my Masters course so I won't be in the thread at all for half of this lynch.

#1044

Bully Boy.

The first on-topic interaction is with Matt.

Bullzeye wrote:
Matt wrote:I've never played a Lost game before, this will be fun!

Liking Zeebs right now, she seems like her scary civ self...

Bullz, why shouldn't everyone vote for you Day one?
Because I'm not a baddie. Why shouldn't we vote for you?

TheFloyd73 wrote:Bullz, thoughts?
I think Matt is a big noob with no real sense of logic to any of his actions. He's my favourite muppet, but a muppet nonetheless.

Matt wrote:If Bullz were lynched and ended up civvie, just know deep down he was really mafia and wanted a town loss. I'm surprised more players aren't aware of Bullzeye's consistent anti-town sentiment.

I think everyone knows I rarely want to be a civ, but what I want has never had anything to do with it. When I am civ, I want the civs to win. Sometimes I even do when I'm not a civ if they really deserve it.

In conclusion, Matt is still a crazy person, the sky is still blue, and I don't think much else has happened so far that I find worthy of comment.

If Bullzeye is bad, then this is a calculated post, and I encourage people to read it both ways.

Bullzeye wrote:I might end up voting Matt just for being a butt but I've not yet decided. From looking at the way votes have fallen I wouldn't be surprised if we end up having a tie between everybody!

This is indecisive, and later Bullzeye votes LC.

Bullzeye wrote:I suppose I can get behind a five-way tie for the time being... May change later though!

*LC*

He says the tie is for novelty:

Bullzeye wrote:In fact I almost definitely will change my vote at some point but this huge tie just looks cool.

Okay. That's a relief.

Bullzeye wrote:
Matt wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:I suppose I can get behind a five-way tie for the time being... May change later though!

*LC*
Originally, it was a fun changeable vote, but after several players have looked at me hardcore for daring to suspect poor Bullz, and then posts like this...

Why do you want a five way tie?
Why shouldn't I? Should I be taking day 1 more seriously? This is ridiculous. You say you always suspect me and all this but you never come right out of the gate before I've even had the chance to contribute and start trying to set me up for a lynch. Now you've found fault with a fun vote as if that justifies your weak arguments in any way. I'll break the tie if it means so much to you. *Votes Matt*

Bullzeye implies that he shouldn't have to take Day 1 more seriously than he did.

Time out for a moment.

At this point, I am going to go through all of Matt's interactions with Bullzeye to see if there is truly a "thing" where Matt votes Bullzeye Day 1. If I am unimpressed with that, then I am going to vote Bullzeye.

Homestar Runner - Bullzeye participated. Bullzeye (m) - killed Night 1 by Trogdor, rezzed, Night 2, killed Night 10 by Blue Laser, Homsar Matt made several mentions Day 1 of Bullzeye being bad. Matt got replaced though: Indiglo (f, replaced Matt F) - Winner, Blue Laser minion #3. Matt was bad. Bullzeye was good.

Sherlock - Bullzeye participated. This particular instance was an INH affair, and not proper mafia. However, Bullzeye is mentioned like four million times on Matt's first page of posts.

Talking Heads - Bullzeye participated, but replaced in Day 2. Bullzeye was bad and Matt was good. Matt calls Bullzeye bad Day 4 after some friendly banter.

A World Reborn- Bullzeye participated, and Matt talked about Bullzeye always being bad.

Dune- Bullzeye out.

I'm going to stop there. I think enough evidence exists to show that Tuft-Head does give Bully Boy crap on a regular basis. The question is, was it just for fun or was Matt using that to his advantage?

Bullzeye wrote:
Matt wrote: Bullz - I don't see how a five way tie benefits town at all. Please explain why you do.
Quote me saying anything remotely close to "I think a five way tie benefits town" and then I will.

The retort appears organic enough.

Matt wrote:Bullz, do you really think I'm bad or are you just sour because I suspected you? Maybe SVS is right and you don't enjoy my poking and prodding of you in every game? If so, my bad. Just havin' funsies, dude, I figured you knew that.

And no, I will not find a quote like that. However, you just agreeing with Typh on creating a five way tie is definitely suspish, and I'm amazed that nobody else sees that.

To anyone saying it's weird that my vote started as a joke and then developed into a real ping, are you saying I'm no longer allowed to suspect Bullz because I already jokingly suspected him? Someone please inform Metalmarsh of this new rule, I don't know what he'll do with hiimself.

Zebra - Thanks dudette! However, if you think we can get a bunch of people to pull their votes off of me AND DF and put them where they belong, on Bullz, I'm down!

Matt pushes a Bullzeye lynch still.

Matt wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:Bullz is fine. Wilgy is bad.
If you think Wilgy is bad, and Wilgy voted DF and DF voted Wilgy, and you voted DF...does this mean you think DF and Wilgy are partners who are distancing?

Why not Bullz? You don't find him agreeing with Typh on a five way tie is suspish? Bullz said it was a joke but...

Which reminds me. SVS. You apparently hate Day 1 joke votes. What is your opinion of Bullzeye voting for Long Con just for laughs and giggles to create a five way tie on Day one? You must take some kind of issue with that, yes?

Matt tries to twist S~V~S's arm into voting Bullzie.

Bullzeye wrote:To be fair, Faraday's recent hints have been as subtle as a plane falling off a cliff. I mean I guess he could be lying but I think Matt is definitely more likely to be bad.

This post looks great to me, knowing what I know about Bullz...

Bullzeye wrote:*Voting Matt*. I'm 99.9% sure he's bad at this point.

...but this one still vexes me. I've never known Bullzie to express such certainty so early on.

Bullzeye wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:I really don't understand what's going on now.
In an alternate timeline, you are getting lynched today.
Because Matt says so and picked a role at random to claim?

Matt picked a random role to claim? If Bullzeye were bad, I don't think he would have phrased it this way.

That seals it for me. I examined his experiences with Scotty, but Bullzeye voted for him too, and this was his reason

I'm still in favor of Bullzeye being good. From my experience with him, he is an excellent teammate- one of my favorites. He is only bad if Matt constructed this plan with him in BTSC about going at each other and Bullzeye actually agreed with him. I don't think that's the case. If he is bad and did an elaborate dance with Matt that early (and then Scotty), then he deserves an award. I cannot find many holes to poke in it, at least not big ones.

Unless someone raises serious issues against him, I'm not voting Bullzeye.

#1045

Based on Matt's actions and Bullzeye's vote record, I would say that he is by far the civviest player.

What's with the sudden urdge to step up your game Epi?

#1046

Now see, I AM voting Bullzeye.

I think I played right into Matts bullshit on day one. When I read back on it, the way he kept grouping us together while he was accusing me of being personal etc., Matt kept saying "SVS & Bullz". In retrospect, had I not been so mama bear since I <3 Bullz, and know he has been shafted more than once by that sort of thing, I would have seen itfor what it was.

Bullzshit.

Voting Bullzeye

#1047

How'd you know what I was thinking, Redneck Man?

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #1048

DrWilgy wrote:Regardless, I'm placing my vote on Nutella at least until we have a firm opinion and responses from her, and I guess we'll go from there...

I am unclear on what you still want a response from me on. Everything I've said has been my genuine frustration with this game -- all my flip flops are just that. I don't have anything else to add. I understand that my voting record is absolute shit, and that my posts/opinions have looked suspicious because I mostly stream-of-conciousness them and often change my mind. But that's because I was totally clueless and often followed the opinions of whoever I trusted at the time.

As of now, I am sticking with my gut and voting Epi.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #1049

What I don't want is for me to be lynched and then get blamed if we lose, because I'm trying my hardest to defend myself and you guys are not giving me much of a chance. If there is something specific I haven't addressed please let me know. I'd love to stay alive for a win.

#1050

S~V~S wrote:Now see, I AM voting Bullzeye.

I think I played right into Matts bullshit on day one. When I read back on it, the way he kept grouping us together while he was accusing me of being personal etc., Matt kept saying "SVS & Bullz". In retrospect, had I not been so mama bear since I <3 Bullz, and know he has been shafted more than once by that sort of thing, I would have seen itfor what it was.

Bullzshit.

Voting Bullzeye

I'm sorry but this just doesn't make sense. Why does Matt grouping us together and trying to dig at you make me bad? Do you really think I'm the type of player to bury his entire team the way I have this game?

Who wasn't on the plane?