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If you are playing the GOC and can see this, please inform TH or I :)

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Game O'Champeens Spectator chat is open~
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I think if Golden doesn't get lynched early in this game, he will win. Doesn't matter what team he is on. It's just a pattern I've seen.
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Scotty wrote:I think if Golden doesn't get lynched early in this game, he will win. Doesn't matter what team he is on. It's just a pattern I've seen.
Yeah, he's been on a roll this year. Hard to believe he's won so many times without becoming a Day/Night 1 target.
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Scotty wrote:I think if Golden doesn't get lynched early in this game, he will win. Doesn't matter what team he is on. It's just a pattern I've seen.
Yeah, he's been on a roll this year. Hard to believe he's won so many times without becoming a Day/Night 1 target.
I only scanned the signup thread- why aren't you in this game? I always enjoy watching your hijinx
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EBWOP: hi-G-nx
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Scotty wrote:I think if Golden doesn't get lynched early in this game, he will win. Doesn't matter what team he is on. It's just a pattern I've seen.
Yeah, he's been on a roll this year. Hard to believe he's won so many times without becoming a Day/Night 1 target.
I only scanned the signup thread- why aren't you in this game? I always enjoy watching your hijinx
Because I didn't win any games. :blush:
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Nooooo you both are what baddies would call "a threat"
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So this is the nub thread.

Nice to meet all of you
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Nub Typhoony
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G-Man wrote:Image
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I didn't realize you were a loser.

Me? I'm a winner. See my banner?
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So I already know someone's role in this game, does that mean I cannot post in here? :p

No u SVS! You're not playing this game either!
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Scotty wrote:lololololol

I didn't realize you were a loser.

Me? I'm a winner. See my banner?
Very nice. I think I've got a ninth place ribbon lying around here somewhere. All my victories were years ago at other forums.
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Typhoony wrote:So this is the nub thread.

Nice to meet all of you
Sup. I think the only game I've played with you was Recruitment, where, if I recall, you were killed D1/N1 for some reason. I hear you are legend doe
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Typhoony wrote:So I already know someone's role in this game, does that mean I cannot post in here? :p

No u SVS! You're not playing this game either!
this thread is spoiled, deadies will be coming in, although we will ask that they don't reveal teammates.

Let me put up a poll.
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Scotty wrote:
Typhoony wrote:So this is the nub thread.

Nice to meet all of you
Sup. I think the only game I've played with you was Recruitment, where, if I recall, you were killed D1/N1 for some reason. I hear you are legend doe
If by legend, you mean he is old, sure! :p
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Scotty wrote:
Typhoony wrote:So this is the nub thread.

Nice to meet all of you
Sup. I think the only game I've played with you was Recruitment, where, if I recall, you were killed D1/N1 for some reason. I hear you are legend doe
Do you not remember me being partially responsible for your lynch in Pikmin?

What's with the legend thing? You said the same thing in Pikmin, who told you that nonsense :p ?
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So rude G-man, so rude. I'm still a wee little lad
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Typhoony wrote:So rude G-man, so rude. I'm still a wee little lad
Yes, but we don't need to hear about your package. :haha:

You may not be old by age but you've been around the mafia block a few times. You go pretty far back if I recall correctly.
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That doesn't make me a legend. More of an idiot for still playing :beer:
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Typhoony wrote:That doesn't make me a legend. More of an idiot for still playing :beer:
I hear you there. I went on a three-year hiatus and still couldn't stay away for good.

My name is G-Man and I'm a mafiaholic...
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You got your 3-year badge of not playing and you still relapsed? Poor you :(

Hosts: Can we assume that there are no rezzes in the game seeing as Dead Players will enter here?
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Nope, no rezzes. Dead is dead.
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Typhoony wrote:
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Typhoony wrote:So this is the nub thread.

Nice to meet all of you
Sup. I think the only game I've played with you was Recruitment, where, if I recall, you were killed D1/N1 for some reason. I hear you are legend doe
Do you not remember me being partially responsible for your lynch in Pikmin?

What's with the legend thing? You said the same thing in Pikmin, who told you that nonsense :p ?
oh lol I forgot I even played that game, I was killed so early. Thanks for reminding me, and thanks for instigating my needless death. :fist:

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But you get NKed more than lynched iirc(I seem to recall NKing you at least once myself) which means the baddies fear you.

So you must be doing something right :)
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S~V~S wrote:But you get NKed more than lynched iirc(I seem to recall NKing you at least once myself) which means the baddies fear you.

So you must be doing something right :)
Hah, if you say so :hug: . I just talk a lot :workit:
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Are the Hosts going to keep scores for guessing baddies throughout the game via the poll, with the overall winner getting a special banner? :grin:
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Typhoony wrote:Are the Hosts going to keep scores for guessing baddies throughout the game via the poll, with the overall winner getting a special banner? :grin:
Introducing.... ChampsKings!!!!


Sounds like too much work :kadaj:
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Typhoony wrote:Are the Hosts going to keep scores for guessing baddies throughout the game via the poll, with the overall winner getting a special banner? :grin:
Yeah I can post the daily winner results in the first post. I can prolly wheedle a banner out of LC :grin:

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I'll try to keep a spreadsheet and post some vote analysis once we reach Day 4. See if the ol' Technicolor Vote Analysis can still find the baddies. :super:
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So do Golden and Mac always go back and forth like this in every game they play?

It's like a sport to them :p
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Typhoony wrote:So do Golden and Mac always go back and forth like this in every game they play?

It's like a sport to them :p
It's true. They really can't help themselves XD
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Hi everyone! Just wanted to pop in and say hello. :dance:

I haven't really read any of the game, though I've read some of the most current page. I'm intrigued and wanted to start properly reading, but I doubt I will due to lack of time and an insane post count. What a talkative thread!
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We will run the baddie poll until the end of day 1, I will post results in here & restart the poll. We can compare results at the end.
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Ug, I just realized that lynch poll votes are changeable. I'll wait until the final poll is posted before adding anything else to my spreadsheet.

When did changeable votes come into vogue? I remember being able to change votes on the STV forums but I don't recall it being a popular thing anywhere else I played before my hiatus. The analytical accounting nerd in me hates it but the scheming feb in me likes the potential chaotic nature of it.
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Do we have any spectators who have a way to get in touch with Hamburger Boy? He has not been onsite in over 2 weeks, and probably does not know we started.
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Ask someone from whatever forum he came from.

Changeable votes have only recently come into fashion I think G-man. It took some time for me to get used to it but I actually think I quite like the concept. It is a mess for voting order graphs though.
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I can contact HamburgerBoy on RYM. Surprised no one else has done so. I'll do it now.
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When changeable votes started to be experimented with, by Epi if I remember correctly, I hated them. Seemed like a more baddie-friendly feature than civilian-friendly to me.

Since playing on RYM and other sites throughout 2015, I began to see the merit of changeable votes, and over time I've actually warmed up to them, and now I prefer them. Never thought that day would ever come... it took some time to convince me of their benefit, but playing on RYM especially I saw how changeable votes allow civilians to better put pressure on players and more flexibly vote up through EoD. They also can be effectively used to make mafia uncomfortable as much as, if not more than, civilians. In addition, they can be cast when players are afraid of missing the deadline, but changed if that player does in fact make it before EoD, a situation I've been in before and sometimes wished I could change my vote when votes were nonchangeable. That said, there are definitely pros and cons for both.

Also, regarding Ricochet's weird behavior, has anyone considered that he might be Sidoh from Death Note?
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I used them in a game at HV before this forum started. I got the thought at the ASOIAF Mafia forum, where all their games are sock games (they call them alts) and they are closed set ups with changeable votes. LT, Rey & I played a few games there, but they were too clique-y.

Interesting hypothesis, surprising no one has brought it up in thread.
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I'm surprised as well, especially since Epi brought up Media. There are definitely players who are playing GoC, have played Death Note, and apparently not considered that role's inclusion.
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juliets is my top civilian read at the moment.

As to the mafia... need to mull over that some more.
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Alright, I've voted in the poll... with my uninformed (and probably wrong) opinions. Zebra and Epi are my top two mafia reads at the moment, but I don't feel remotely confident about that.
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I'm 100% with JJJ here; this is the post that has most bothered me from Zebra as well:
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a2thezebra wrote:Everything HBoy has said regarding Rico is leading me to believe he's desperately trying to save his teammate.
:disappoint: :disappoint: :disappoint: :disappoint: :disappoint:
Curious to hear what he'll have to say when he speaks normally again.
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Typh, G-Man, care to explain any of your mafia reads as per your votes in the poll? Both of you can bring great insight to the table, so I'm curious what you're currently thinking.
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I randomly picked 10 people, thinking I'd change it at the end of Day 1.

Which I will do later :p
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I skimmed the last couple of pages. No way I'm reading all of that.

I more have a list of people that I don't think are bad than people that I do think are bad, as I usually have in the beginning :p.

I dunno what's up with Ricochet, I've never played with him, but I like your theory of him acting like this because of his role, which would mean he's not bad imo.

I don't think Mac or Golden is bad right now. I don't think Juliets is bad right now. I don't think HamburgerBoy is bad right now. I don't think Black Rock is bad right now.
I'm not sure about LoRab. She reads a bit to me like she did in World Reborn, where she was civ. Sig reminds me of World Reborn play as well where he was civ. DF actually had some content in one of his posts, so I won't vote for him today either. I can't read Matt in early game at all.
LC/Wilgy/Llama/Zebra all questions marks for me. So I'll vote them.
I have no read on the cursed people, so I will leave those alone for today. So JJJ/Draco/were there more?

I think that's most of the players that were active in the last few pages...

So voting LC/Wilgy/Llama/Zebra + 6 more...
And the 6 are DH/Dom/Elohcin/Matt/MetalMarsh aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand Timmer I guess.

Someone should make a game where you can vote 10 people per day please.
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Wow, what a result! Never expected that role to be reinvented like that, but that was a genius reinvention of it.
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Is this role different that how it originally was?

Also, there are apparently items in the game
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