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Who do you think is going to win this weekend?

NFC: #2 Atlanta Falcons
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25%
NFC: #4 Green Bay Packers
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13%
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AFC: #1 New England Patriots
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50%
AFC: #3 Pittsburgh Steelers
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13%
 
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Post by juliets » Tue Sep 26, 2017 5:45 pm

So...whats everyone's opinion about the flag controversy? I stand on the side that says people have a right to protest but my fb is blowing up with people saying they are going to boycott the NFL (like my aunt who I'm sure has never watched an NFL game in her life), or one meme showing a picture of Tebow saying liberals protested when he prayed on the field but they don't care that people won't stand up for their nation. People are really rabid about this. Personally, I'm more wondering how we're going to stave off a nuclear war with Korea and save Puerto Rico from starving and dying from disease. Oh, and health care.
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Post by G-Man » Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:40 pm

I'm not doing any Fantasy Football (pick 'em, survival, etc.) this year, so I have been very detached from football so far this season.

Overall, I don't care if people exercise their First Amendment right in public. They have to deal with the consequences of their speech but they won't hear anything out of me about it. I have far more pressing things to devote my attention to than football players "dissing 'merica."

I'd like to know how many of the people who are threatening to boycott the NFL over players kneeling were part of the birther movement or flew a flag upside-down under Obama. I think all the media coverage is a bit ridiculous because the news networks aren't focusing on why players are kneeling. They're just talking about who is kneeling, which is a distraction to the original message.
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Post by Epignosis » Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:00 pm

I think it's their right, but I don't think it accomplishes anything.

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Post by juliets » Wed Sep 27, 2017 6:09 am

I agree with both of you. The coverage needs to focus on what the original message was because I think thats been lost. And thats one reason I agree with Epi that it is not accomplishing anything.
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Post by Epignosis » Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:38 pm

juliets wrote:
Wed Sep 27, 2017 6:09 am
I agree with both of you. The coverage needs to focus on what the original message was because I think thats been lost. And thats one reason I agree with Epi that it is not accomplishing anything.
I've had numerous conversations with others about this subject (including a huge Cowboys fan who used to idolize Jerry Jones until recently). Here is my full view:

"Disrespecting" the anthem or flag is going to

1) Piss off at least half of the people you (presumably) want to reach, and
2) Make the issue(s) about disrespecting the anthem or the flag.

I think a smarter protester would pick the battleground and realize this one isn't it.

The "taking a knee" movement is starting to balloon into a gesture that can be and has been assumed by anyone who holds a grievance. Colin Kaepernick sat originally to protest the US oppression "of black people and people of color," which in context was about controversial police interventions.

Now people are kneeling because of what Trump says on Twitter (and Trump wasn't President when Colin K. originally took a knee).

My point is that vague demonstrations such as this will only be blurred by being commandeered by others for their own reasons and grievances, it will become trendy, temporarily sensational, and eventually pointless.

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Post by juliets » Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:00 am

Yes, I may have said this already but my feeling this last weekend was they were protesting Trump, not racial injustice. Did the Green Bay fans link arms last night? I heard the team asked them to but there was a lot of resistance.
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