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So...whats everyone's opinion about the flag controversy? I stand on the side that says people have a right to protest but my fb is blowing up with people saying they are going to boycott the NFL (like my aunt who I'm sure has never watched an NFL game in her life), or one meme showing a picture of Tebow saying liberals protested when he prayed on the field but they don't care that people won't stand up for their nation. People are really rabid about this. Personally, I'm more wondering how we're going to stave off a nuclear war with Korea and save Puerto Rico from starving and dying from disease. Oh, and health care.
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I'm not doing any Fantasy Football (pick 'em, survival, etc.) this year, so I have been very detached from football so far this season.

Overall, I don't care if people exercise their First Amendment right in public. They have to deal with the consequences of their speech but they won't hear anything out of me about it. I have far more pressing things to devote my attention to than football players "dissing 'merica."

I'd like to know how many of the people who are threatening to boycott the NFL over players kneeling were part of the birther movement or flew a flag upside-down under Obama. I think all the media coverage is a bit ridiculous because the news networks aren't focusing on why players are kneeling. They're just talking about who is kneeling, which is a distraction to the original message.
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I think it's their right, but I don't think it accomplishes anything.
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I agree with both of you. The coverage needs to focus on what the original message was because I think thats been lost. And thats one reason I agree with Epi that it is not accomplishing anything.
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juliets wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2017 6:09 am I agree with both of you. The coverage needs to focus on what the original message was because I think thats been lost. And thats one reason I agree with Epi that it is not accomplishing anything.
I've had numerous conversations with others about this subject (including a huge Cowboys fan who used to idolize Jerry Jones until recently). Here is my full view:

"Disrespecting" the anthem or flag is going to

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2) Make the issue(s) about disrespecting the anthem or the flag.

I think a smarter protester would pick the battleground and realize this one isn't it.

The "taking a knee" movement is starting to balloon into a gesture that can be and has been assumed by anyone who holds a grievance. Colin Kaepernick sat originally to protest the US oppression "of black people and people of color," which in context was about controversial police interventions.

Now people are kneeling because of what Trump says on Twitter (and Trump wasn't President when Colin K. originally took a knee).

My point is that vague demonstrations such as this will only be blurred by being commandeered by others for their own reasons and grievances, it will become trendy, temporarily sensational, and eventually pointless.

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Yes, I may have said this already but my feeling this last weekend was they were protesting Trump, not racial injustice. Did the Green Bay fans link arms last night? I heard the team asked them to but there was a lot of resistance.
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Sloonei wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2017 9:36 pm I do just assume they'll be here every year, tbh.
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I mean, really- did anyone but Jacksonville fans and the most delusional Patriots haters actually think the Jaguars had a chance?
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G-Man wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:10 pm I mean, really- did anyone but Jacksonville fans and the most delusional Patriots haters actually think the Jaguars had a chance?
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G-Man wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:10 pm I mean, really- did anyone but Jacksonville fans and the most delusional Patriots haters actually think the Jaguars had a chance?
I did.

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So was that Case Keenum suddenly turning back into a pumpkin, the Vikings defense imploding, or something else entirely? I tuned in when it was 31-7.
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I only watched the first half, but it seemed very much like a defensive meltdown on Minnesota's part, and the offense couldn't keep up.

The Eagles finally get their Super Bowl rematch with Tom Brady, 13 years later.
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I'm okay with either result now. The Patriots again is extremely boring, but if they take a 6th Lombardi then they match the Steelers and diminish their insufferable boasting. The Eagles finally getting one would be a lot of fun.
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I forgot there was a Super Bowl this weekend until my friend informed me last night.
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Marmot wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:11 pm I forgot there was a Super Bowl this weekend until my friend informed me last night.
I've forgotten multiple times this week. :p
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I've got the over on this one.

These missing kicks are pissing me off.
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Oh look, the Patriots are trailing at half time of the Super Bowl.
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That result was incorrect.
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but for real, philadelphia was the best all around opponent I've seen match up against the Pats since Seattle in the Super Bowl a few years ago. That was an entertaining football game and the Patriots' obvious holes on defense finally caught up to them. Nick Foles played better than a backup is supposed to play on that stage, but he also never really faced any pressure.
That one timeout the Pats burned early in the 4th came back to bite them. The game could have turned out different if they'd had all three going into the final minutes. But that was a product of Philly's offense being effective and difficult to stop all game long, so no sour grapes over it. Either team could have won that game, and there's no shame in being on the losing end of it.

see y'all again next year. I wonder who the opponent will be this time. Kinda hoping it's New Orleans. A Brady/Brees Super Bowl match up with both of them in their twilight years would be awesome.
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I'm just realizing that the Patriots' last three super bowl opponents have all been birds.
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Sloonei wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:05 am I'm just realizing that the Patriots' last three super bowl opponents have all been birds.
The kind with teeth?
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The life of a Patriots fan. Few others can take a Super Bowl loss in stride.
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ColinIsCool wrote: Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:24 pm Went to the Ralph today to see the Bills v. Bengals. Whole stadium gives Andy Dalton a hero’s welcome for his last game last season and his charitable response to Bills fans’ charity. He smiles and looks grateful, then proceeds to dad dick us pretty much every chance he gets, ripping up our swiss cheese O-line and making Josh Allen’s first start completely inert. Feels great.
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Tyrod is a great guy, but not the answer at QB. The Wild Card game last year is all the proof anybody needs. AJ was really just an insurance policy in case they didn’t land one in the draft, but he’s hurt a little, so I think Peterman is starting the season. And Cordy was another trade to keep moving up the draft. It’s definitely a rebuilding year — I’m just hoping they have something left in Josh Allen after they spend the season getting torn down.
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oops AJ's gone to the Raiders.

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Sloonei wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:08 pm
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This fucking guy.

I have never seen the divisional round.
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My team hasn’t won a playoff game in my lifetime.

(Jay’s hasn’t either. :slick: )
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My team has won playoff games in my lifetime but I don’t think they have since Marino tore his Achilles tendon.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Jan 21, 2019 3:34 pm This fucking guy.

I have never seen the divisional round.
I’ve never seen the Wild Card round. :shrug:
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Sloonei wrote: Mon Jan 21, 2019 7:48 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Jan 21, 2019 3:34 pm This fucking guy.

I have never seen the divisional round.
I’ve never seen the Wild Card round. :shrug:
And hopefully, after Brady and Belichick and these glory days are gone, you never do.

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That won't be for another 15 years or so.
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Uhm, Robert Kraft is in doodoo.
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timmer wrote: Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:20 pm Uhm, Robert Kraft is in doodoo.
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Is this the wildest NFL offseason ever?
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  • Antonio Brown forcing his way to a trade and nearly retiring because of his helmet
  • OBJ traded to the Browns
  • Tyreek Hill investigation, no suspension
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And how did I forget about Robert Kraft's extracurriculars?! This thing is getting too scripted.
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Does anyone know if this Antonio Brown kid is any good?
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Sloonei wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2019 5:26 pm Does anyone know if this Antonio Brown kid is any good?
His fundamentals are a little sloppy but he’s got a great attitude and a team-first mindset.
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I’ve reached my peak as a spoiled sports fan: I’m disappointed by a 30-14 win.
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Well to be fair, I was disappointed that we let the Jets score too.
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They were cruising toward 4 straight games without allowing a touchdown, then a muffed punt and a pick six by the rookie backup QB in garbage time changed that.

The defense is still pitching a TD shutout though.
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I'm okay with an 0-3 start if they can get Zac Taylor his first win against the Steelers on Monday Night Football.
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0-3 vs 0-3

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Jesus, Cincy. 4 and 21? That O-Line looks like it doesn't give a toss.
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4 and 29.

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Red Rifle must've shot his eye out.
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I officially feel bad for the Jets. This game is non-competitive.
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I sat this one out. Been a rough season for me thus far.
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Turned it on to see Darnold continue to pitch the self-shutout
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