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Jackofhearts2005 wrote:Heh. The vague awareness of Mafiascum as the only other online mafia site and that it is an unpleasant place to play mirrors our awareness exactly pre tournament.
:haha: Ahhhhh, that's too funny. :)
HCRealms also rarely has vanilla roles but our roles are generally not revealed at all except in name only through nightkills/lynches and then in full at the end of the game. Having setup knowledge is usually reserved for specific mafia variants like Texas Justice or One Night Ultimate Mafia. Should be interesting trying out a home brew game with an open setup.

Infodumping is one of the main things I dislike about that community and there has been heavy resistance to restricting roleclaims. The plethora of powers has lead to an attitude of "waiting for info" or "pressure votes" that get removed when someone name claims. I'm okay with a couple townies being able to self confirm with name claims but I've also played games where the theme and player count were so restrictive that there was no room at all for false claims and any townie could self confirm. That's not much of a game, IMO, and it's frustrating that some players have no idea what to do without roleclaiming or a cop to follow.
It has been a very long and difficult battle around here, trying to balance "no infodumping" with "game censorship". Too many times, I have seen a role-checker type of role who KNOWS someone is Mafia, and they get too frustrated trying to get that player lynched... so they drop a post that says something like "I'm 100% sure that this person is bad" in one way or another. Once something like that is out, it never goes away, and everyone else can easily put the pieces together that it was said by a role-checker... and then the game is tainted by infodumping, and the role-checker never really even meant to do it.

You just gotta make a case. If you KNOW someone is bad, then cobble together any convincing-sounding thing you can to sawy hearts and minds - I think that those players who "have no idea what to do without roleclaiming" just need to play harder, do more research, and be more creative. :shrug2: Which is why I support the "no infodumping" side of things.

And it is very much a "spirit of the law" thing, rather than the "letter of the law", which is why some players still go to far and accidentally infodump. To me, a game should be played within the desired parameters that a Host wishes, and it's not good sportsmanship to try and find a loophole in any rules or roles that the Host didn't intend. But I'm rambling now. It's cool to see that you seem to be someone that will enjoy The Syndicate, Jack.
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MovingPictures07 wrote: Sounds like you'll fit in real well around here then. :feb:
That's my hope. :)

Went ahead and signed up for a game.

There is a Christmas game open on the realms that could use some more players if anyone wants to try something different and try to siphon off a couple more players for the Syndicate.

http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=569190
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HCRealms also rarely has vanilla roles but our roles are generally not revealed at all except in name only through nightkills/lynches and then in full at the end of the game. Having setup knowledge is usually reserved for specific mafia variants like Texas Justice or One Night Ultimate Mafia. Should be interesting trying out a home brew game with an open setup.

Infodumping is one of the main things I dislike about that community and there has been heavy resistance to restricting roleclaims. The plethora of powers has lead to an attitude of "waiting for info" or "pressure votes" that get removed when someone name claims. I'm okay with a couple townies being able to self confirm with name claims but I've also played games where the theme and player count were so restrictive that there was no room at all for false claims and any townie could self confirm. That's not much of a game, IMO, and it's frustrating that some players have no idea what to do without roleclaiming or a cop to follow.
It has been a very long and difficult battle around here, trying to balance "no infodumping" with "game censorship". Too many times, I have seen a role-checker type of role who KNOWS someone is Mafia, and they get too frustrated trying to get that player lynched... so they drop a post that says something like "I'm 100% sure that this person is bad" in one way or another. Once something like that is out, it never goes away, and everyone else can easily put the pieces together that it was said by a role-checker... and then the game is tainted by infodumping, and the role-checker never really even meant to do it.

You just gotta make a case. If you KNOW someone is bad, then cobble together any convincing-sounding thing you can to sawy hearts and minds - I think that those players who "have no idea what to do without roleclaiming" just need to play harder, do more research, and be more creative. :shrug2: Which is why I support the "no infodumping" side of things.

And it is very much a "spirit of the law" thing, rather than the "letter of the law", which is why some players still go to far and accidentally infodump. To me, a game should be played within the desired parameters that a Host wishes, and it's not good sportsmanship to try and find a loophole in any rules or roles that the Host didn't intend. But I'm rambling now. It's cool to see that you seem to be someone that will enjoy The Syndicate, Jack.
Oh, but I love game mechanics discussions. :p

The realms usually allows info sharing like "I copped LC as mafia" but tempers it with fairly common misdirection powers, millers (townies copping as scum), cloaks (scum copping as town) and the occasional naive/paranoid/reverse/random cop that's info can't be trusted anyway. Plus there's nothing in the OP saying there is a cop at all or that character X is the cop so if character X is dead, the guy claiming cop could be lying and then use all of the above as an excuse when the accused flips town. And then there is always the possibility of a scum info gatherer trying to string up an opposing scummer to look good.

We've hit the somewhat paradoxical point where an info gathering role is required to get much of anything done but "I copped JoH as mafia" only leads to my death like 50-75% of the time.
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Jackofhearts2005 wrote:There is a Christmas game open on the realms that could use some more players if anyone wants to try something different and try to siphon off a couple more players for the Syndicate.

http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=569190
LOL I tried... and then posted a thread in the new member forum, and:

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Haha. Probably happened if you linked to the Syndicate in your first post. Sent a message to a mod to unban you.
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Jackofhearts2005 wrote:Haha. Probably happened if you linked to the Syndicate in your first post. Sent a message to a mod to unban you.
Thanks, that's exactly what I did.
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Okay. You've been moderator unbanned but Quebbster (mod) wasn't sure it went though and might need admin approval.

I can click on your profile now without the site erroring out so...you're probably no longer banned. :shrug2:
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Jackofhearts2005 wrote:Okay. You've been moderator unbanned but Quebbster (mod) wasn't sure it went though and might need admin approval.

I can click on your profile now without the site erroring out so...you're probably no longer banned. :shrug2:
Still banned on my end. :D
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Leave it to LC to get banned with his first post. :haha:
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Jackofhearts2005 wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote: Sounds like you'll fit in real well around here then. :feb:
That's my hope. :)

Went ahead and signed up for a game.

There is a Christmas game open on the realms that could use some more players if anyone wants to try something different and try to siphon off a couple more players for the Syndicate.

http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=569190
Sweet! I'll register and try this out myself if anyone besides Mr. Ban over there wants to join us. ;)
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I'm getting in the Christmas spirit with the HeroClickers.
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juliets wrote:Leave it to LC to get banned with his first post. :haha:
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Sloonei wrote:I'm getting in the Christmas spirit with the HeroClickers.
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I'm still awaiting activation, but whenever I get activated I'm totally signing up.
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Golden wrote:
juliets wrote:Leave it to LC to get banned with his first post. :haha:
Legitimately amazing!

He has a knack. It's like a callback.
It is pretty funny. :haha:
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MovingPictures07 wrote:
Sloonei wrote:I'm getting in the Christmas spirit with the HeroClickers.
:beer:

I'm still awaiting activation, but whenever I get activated I'm totally signing up.
That message is kinda misleading. They really should change it.

The steps are
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Jackofhearts2005 wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Sloonei wrote:I'm getting in the Christmas spirit with the HeroClickers.
:beer:

I'm still awaiting activation, but whenever I get activated I'm totally signing up.
That message is kinda misleading. They really should change it.

The steps are
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2) Post something without a link to the new player forum
3) Get autoconfirmed/banned
Oh, okay! Thanks for clarifying that. I figured it was similar to this site where the admin activates every new member.
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MovingPictures07 wrote:
Sloonei wrote:I'm getting in the Christmas spirit with the HeroClickers.
:beer:

I'm still awaiting activation, but whenever I get activated I'm totally signing up.
How odd. I saw your name on the site as a "new member".
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Are You New? Welcome! You have taken then first step in becoming a member of HCRealms.com, The HeroClix Community! Before we can give you full access of the site; drop into New Member Forum and introduce yourself! Once we've determined that you're a real, live, person (or zombie), we'll grant you access to the full site automatically. BTW, don't post links ... the system will think you're a SpamBot and automatically ban you. Thanks!
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MovingPictures07 wrote:
Are You New? Welcome! You have taken then first step in becoming a member of HCRealms.com, The HeroClix Community! Before we can give you full access of the site; drop into New Member Forum and introduce yourself! Once we've determined that you're a real, live, person (or zombie), we'll grant you access to the full site automatically. BTW, don't post links ... the system will think you're a SpamBot and automatically ban you. Thanks!
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Pffft, as if I read the rules. :pout: I'm unbanned now anyway. :meany:
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Long Con wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Are You New? Welcome! You have taken then first step in becoming a member of HCRealms.com, The HeroClix Community! Before we can give you full access of the site; drop into New Member Forum and introduce yourself! Once we've determined that you're a real, live, person (or zombie), we'll grant you access to the full site automatically. BTW, don't post links ... the system will think you're a SpamBot and automatically ban you. Thanks!
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Pffft, as if I read the rules. :pout: I'm unbanned now anyway. :meany:
No, wait, I'm not... I was just not signed in. :puppy:
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Apparently an admin needs to unban and the mods are a bit more active/chummy with the mafia board than the admins. Should get fixed in the next day or two.

You're no longer super banned. You're just on double secret probation.
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:slick: Nice!
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What's the unbanning status of Long Con?
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Looks like the game filled up without LC :(
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:24 pm Always good to remember that there is no such thing as a Mafia circumstance that is worth real human emotion. Sometimes it will naturally come out, but it can be contained if we just remember that this is a game on a message board forum that 99.99% of the population of the Earth has never heard of before. No matter how successful anyone is, it means just about nothing.

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Butts. I was looking forward to some long cons in that game. MP and I will do our darndest to represent the Syndicate well, or die trying!
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Sloonei wrote:Butts. I was looking forward to some long cons in that game. MP and I will do our darndest to represent the Syndicate well, or die trying!
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I suppose I didn't introduce myself here the first time, so I guess I can make a second impression.

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TheFloyd73 wrote:I suppose I didn't introduce myself here the first time, so I guess I can make a second impression.

Hello, I'm Floyd, and I made fool out of myself during the Talking Heads game.
Good to see you, Floyd, welcome back! :D
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Hi Floyd, glad to have you. Hope you'll play another game soon!
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TheFloyd73 wrote:I suppose I didn't introduce myself here the first time, so I guess I can make a second impression.

Hello, I'm Floyd, and I made fool out of myself during the Talking Heads game.
I make a fool out of myself in most games I play. :goofp:

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yea not sure who i am lol been so long. hi
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yea not sure who i am lol been so long. hi
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Hello, Doober! Wow, it's been ages. Hope you've been doing well!

So good to see you again. :D
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Doober wrote:yea not sure who i am lol been so long. hi
I recognize your name, probably from the RM chat.

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hi doober! Welcome!
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:24 pm Always good to remember that there is no such thing as a Mafia circumstance that is worth real human emotion. Sometimes it will naturally come out, but it can be contained if we just remember that this is a game on a message board forum that 99.99% of the population of the Earth has never heard of before. No matter how successful anyone is, it means just about nothing.

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i guess some do remember me lol yes RM. been so long. hi all
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Howdy I'm Fred.

I've played and ran games off and on a super casual mafia site that is a bit stagnant, someone posted a link and as I still had my one risky click for the day, here I am. I'm ready to get bulldozed a bunch of times, I like to think I'm a better moderator then I am a player but eh, I'm here now.
Was I the same as when I got up this morning? I almost think I can remember feeling a little different. But if I am not the same, the next question is, Who in the world am I?
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Fredwood wrote:Howdy I'm Fred.

I've played and ran games off and on a super casual mafia site that is a bit stagnant, someone posted a link and as I still had my one risky click for the day, here I am. I'm ready to get bulldozed a bunch of times, I like to think I'm a better moderator then I am a player but eh, I'm here now.
Hi Fred! Welcome aboard. I look forward to playing a game with you soon, and I promise not to bulldoze you too hard (unless you are bad, then I'm coming for you).
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I don't want to live in that universe.
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Hi Fred! Glad you're here. Sounds like your a friendly mafia player so you'll fit right in to our group. I saw you have signed up for a game so have fun! Let us know if there is any way we can help you.
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Fredwood wrote:Howdy I'm Fred.

I've played and ran games off and on a super casual mafia site that is a bit stagnant, someone posted a link and as I still had my one risky click for the day, here I am. I'm ready to get bulldozed a bunch of times, I like to think I'm a better moderator then I am a player but eh, I'm here now.
Excellent! I just bought myself a brand new bulldozer yesterday, and I've been looking for a good opportunity to use it.

What's your favorite bulldozing technique?
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Side Casting...and yes I did just look up bulldozing techniques.
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Hi Fred~ so tell me why you love Hemingway as much as you do?
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lol...because I like him way more then Emerson (Who is a philosopher not a "writer" in the way I see it), Salinger, Williams, Fitzgerald, Hawthorne and Mellville. Plus Old Man and the Sea and The Sun Also Rises are two of the best books I've ever read.

Really though it's mainly Salinger that's giving me fits, everyone else is understandable by opinion. But I REEAAAAALLLY loathe Salinger, so if we just remove Salinger my resolve will weaken.
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Nice answer, I will back off Hemingway for now. He is far from my fave, but yeah, Old Man and the Sea was pretty good :noble:
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As I said in the Phenon sign-ups thread, welcome, Fred! We're glad to have you here. :yay:

Hope you enjoy it, and don't be afraid to ask whatever questions come to mind. :D
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Hello. I'm new here. I'm not new to mafia.

I've run games and made some brilliant plays before. I've also lost horribly and made blatant wire with the best of them.

I enjoy things sometimes and other times I don't.

Historically, I've been very active as a poster, but real life has forced me to allow my playstyle. I rarely take hints well because I never get them.
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Welcome to The Syndicate, gfishfunk!!!! :yay:

I see ColonialBob has recently signed up too. Welcome to him as well! So glad to see you folks over here from HCR already. :D

Don't hesitate to let any of us know what questions you may have about how things run around these parts.
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gfishfunk wrote:Hello. I'm new here. I'm not new to mafia.

I've run games and made some brilliant plays before. I've also lost horribly and made blatant wire with the best of them.

I enjoy things sometimes and other times I don't.

Historically, I've been very active as a poster, but real life has forced me to allow my playstyle. I rarely take hints well because I never get them.
Also, this all sounds too much like me. :haha:
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Thanks. I was thinking of stealing someone's avatar midgame to create confusion. I'd that frowned upon here?
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gfishfunk wrote:Thanks. I was thinking of stealing someone's avatar midgame to create confusion. I'd that frowned upon here?
It probably would be, yeah, if the joke outran its 15 seconds of fame. :p
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