Ancient Greece Mafia [CONQUEST]

[Scotty]

So at what point do we lynch wolbre/Sloonei/Quin to determine if they sided with the mafia

I was confused by what the hell this meant, but then I remembered people are still under the impression that i’m indy.
Why wolbre and quin?

I dunno. Mac said it way back when

[Sloonei]

I definitely want to hear more from daisy before I decide anything about her.

[Turnip Head]

I will say I don't think we should lynch Daisy, she's been an under-the-radar baddo before but she has a different bite here imo. Busy towner with a boring role methinks

It’s unfortunate, because the WIFOM here is tenuous.

If we don’t lynch her, and she continues to be behind, then she’s just a loose cadaver in the trunk fighting for our side if she’s good, and a silent killer if she’s bad.

I want her to participate or else sooner or later, I’m gonna want her policy lynched. Just my opinion tho

At a certain stage in the game, real time interaction will be more valuable than reading old shit

[mention]Spacedaisy[/mention] if you live long enough for your help to matter, or just want to get more involved in the game idk, just start fresh from wherever you feel comfortable

[Sloonei]

Down with ketchup

[Scotty]

I feel like I’m still playing GoC and thinking there’s a different team killing on every night. I need a reset for a bit after this

[Sloonei]

I feel like I’m still playing GoC and thinking there’s a different team killing on every night. I need a reset for a bit after this

Me too. I keep having to remind myself that I don’t know daisy’s role.

[Spacedaisy]

Yeah, I plan on just jumping in where we are now. I'm not saying I won't be playing or anything.

[Sloonei]

Yeah, I plan on just jumping in where we are now. I'm not saying I won't be playing or anything.

Got any hot takes on the flurry of action around you?

[Kylemii]

So at what point do we lynch wolbre/Sloonei/Quin to determine if they sided with the mafia

we don't actually have to lynch the Hellboys to win do we? regardless of their alignment

even if all three sided with the Persians wouldn't the game still end once we lynch all 4 of the bad boys?

also, why quin? did i miss s/t

[colonialbob]

I'm going to park it here for now

[VOTE: lunalee] aubergine

[Spacedaisy]

Yeah, I plan on just jumping in where we are now. I'm not saying I won't be playing or anything.

Got any hot takes on the flurry of action around you?

Not really, I'm an easy target. but it's hard to say who might be good and bad from that. Low hanging fruit right here baby!

[novaselinenever]

I'm going to park it here for now

[VOTE: lunalee] aubergine

What you think about the Oracle's read on her twice ?

[Marmot]

So at what point do we lynch wolbre/Sloonei/Quin to determine if they sided with the mafia

We still need to eliminate mafia sooooo I'm focusing on that for now.

[Scotty]

Oh, I forgot this Colin-nova interaction from colin’s side:

I don't like the case for nova right now; reading the thread, it looks like it's based on the whole sig thing, but then why wouldn't people just vote sig? Feels weird to me, but sig doesn't seem like scum either. I don't think using hedge words is necessarily a scum tell, I think some people just talk like that (you might notice I say the word "just" about a thousand times a post, for example.) Nothing after that changed my view of him.

I don't think Epignosis is scum right now. I think he doesn't give a shit, but there's a big difference there. I can't support lynching him.

So as far as people who did ping me ... The case against lunalee was interesting. I really don't like the scenario she outlines where Persians conspire on day 1 to lynch dunya, I don't think it's likely and it seems like big buddying. She kind of reminds me of my scum play in FWWM, possibly acting overly friendly as obfuscation. GTH, scum read right now, and that's the best I can go for.

[VOTE: lunalee] aubergine

Lumping nova with sig as victims with baseless accusations. ‘Both look civ’

Eh

It’s hardly damning. Colin had limited engagement past N1, so I’m sorta grasping at straws.

I still feel strongly in my breakdown of colin’s first player salad identifying dunya as looking not suspect. It’s all circumstantial tho, it’s nothing she can respond to adequately.

I dunno guys. I was checking through a bunch of people’s ISO’s and generally speaking, people had their suspicions of Colin. Means some mafia most likely distanced at some point. It’s just identifying when.

[wolbre04]

So at what point do we lynch wolbre/Sloonei/Quin to determine if they sided with the mafia

We still need to eliminate mafia sooooo I'm focusing on that for now.

Fffffffff
I'm not indie I swear!

[wolbre04]

So at what point do we lynch wolbre/Sloonei/Quin to determine if they sided with the mafia

We still need to eliminate mafia sooooo I'm focusing on that for now.

Fffffffff
I'm not indie I swear!

And if I was indie, I sure as hell wouldn't side with mafia, at least with town I start as town and finish as one

[Marmot]

So at what point do we lynch wolbre/Sloonei/Quin to determine if they sided with the mafia

We still need to eliminate mafia sooooo I'm focusing on that for now.

Fffffffff
I'm not indie I swear!

And if I was indie, I sure as hell wouldn't side with mafia, at least with town I start as town and finish as one

Help me lynch the mafia please kthanks.

[novaselinenever]

So at what point do we lynch wolbre/Sloonei/Quin to determine if they sided with the mafia

We still need to eliminate mafia sooooo I'm focusing on that for now.

Fffffffff
I'm not indie I swear!

And if I was indie, I sure as hell wouldn't side with mafia, at least with town I start as town and finish as one

You sure about that ? I remember Sig saying that he wouldn't be surprised if you sided with Mafia as an Indie, just for the fun of it.

[Marmot]

So at what point do we lynch wolbre/Sloonei/Quin to determine if they sided with the mafia

We still need to eliminate mafia sooooo I'm focusing on that for now.

Fffffffff
I'm not indie I swear!

And if I was indie, I sure as hell wouldn't side with mafia, at least with town I start as town and finish as one

You sure about that ? I remember Sig saying that he wouldn't be surprised if you sided with Mafia as an Indie, just for the fun of it.

It's funny that sig literally said that in his first post.

But mafia need to be lynched, whereas Indies only maybe need to be lynched. Hence why I don't want to lynch them right now.

[Marmot]

[mention]Golden[/mention], I miss you! Wanna come play mafia?

[Golden]

@Golden, I miss you! Wanna come play mafia?

The next two weeks are pretty much a living hell for me, posting will be much reduced through 18 May. But I’ll catch up here and there when I can.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Choo choo?

[Quin]

@Golden, I miss you! Wanna come play mafia?

The next two weeks are pretty much a living hell for me, posting will be much reduced through 18 May. But I’ll catch up here and there when I can.

I also expect this to be the case for me. Though there probably won't be a visible difference in my participation.

Why aren't we voting Lunalee today? I'll read, but I'd like to be told from the horse's mouths.

[Quin]

So at what point do we lynch wolbre/Sloonei/Quin to determine if they sided with the mafia

we don't actually have to lynch the Hellboys to win do we? regardless of their alignment

even if all three sided with the Persians wouldn't the game still end once we lynch all 4 of the bad boys?

also, why quin? did i miss s/t

people think wolbre indy-slipped and dragged me down with him.

[Golden]

Golden, I miss you! Wanna come play mafia?

The next two weeks are pretty much a living hell for me, posting will be much reduced through 18 May. But I’ll catch up here and there when I can.

I also expect this to be the case for me. Though there probably won't be a visible difference in my participation.

Why aren't we voting Lunalee today? I'll read, but I'd like to be told from the horse's mouths.

From my perspective, her behaviour around Long Con was the most suspicious. It still could be suspicious even with LC being good, but I need to reevaluate that. My immediate reaction to the LC result was that it meant Luna was less likely to be bad.

[Golden]

[VOTE: Novaselinever] aubergine

I caught Colin red handed voting off wagon. The most likely reason for it is protection of someone or defence of Luna. Either could be possible, but I'm leaning toward protection right now.

This is a fairly uninformed read right now, so it's more of a signpost of my thoughts.

[Quin]

[VOTE: Novaselinever] aubergine

I caught Colin red handed voting off wagon. The most likely reason for it is protection of someone or defence of Luna. Either could be possible, but I'm leaning toward protection right now.

This is a fairly uninformed read right now, so it's more of a signpost of my thoughts.

do you mean nova?

[Golden]

You can see how tired I am.

Protection of nova or distance from luna.

[Quin]

[VOTE: nova ] aubergine the case on them is uninspiring and honestly i can't tell their alignment, but I'd rather we not lynch epi or dunya and novq has from my memory coasted through entire games as mafia on NF.

This feels like a forced vote. Earlier when you mentioned me, you said that I was playing my Town meta by being quiet but now it's opposite. Which is it then ?

Here we can get a glimpse from what appears to be sig calling him out on “coasting” as mafia previously, though nova sticks that up sig’a ass with a stick to smoke.

I don’t know his meta, but one could say nova has been “coasting” of late. After Colin got lynched, he’s definitely lost a bit of wind in his sails

I have been busy and I missed almost the entirety of D3 and the beginning of D4. I will also not have a lot of free-time until this weekend.

About D3, I announced my intention of pushing Lunalee before Colin's push since I believed that his vote for her D1 was a distancing vote on one of his teammate. A meaningless off-wagon vote. I also didn't like how she jumped on the Oracle's prophecy and tried to confirm herself with it, while ignoring my questioning her. That's why I left a vote on her at the start of D3, before leaving.

Now with the other prophecy mentioning her and town-reading her, I have my doubts and I think she is that role. She used the prophecy to save herself and hinting at her role. So I'm not too sold on lynching her today.

Last but not least, I would say that activity is non-alignment indicative for me. I'm being honest here and I've played several games here and players can attest to that. I have been seen " coasting " as Town in my previous games as Town here, and also in a game as scum.

I'm thinking about this. Hiding behind a prophet is a kind of pointless scum tactic considering the message is based on opinion. It's not a very good argument.

Thing is, I don't know either of them very well. Would scum Luna do this? Would town nova make this argument?

Also, "I announced my intention of pushing" puts me off. It seems rehearsed.

[novaselinenever]

[VOTE: nova ] aubergine the case on them is uninspiring and honestly i can't tell their alignment, but I'd rather we not lynch epi or dunya and novq has from my memory coasted through entire games as mafia on NF.

This feels like a forced vote. Earlier when you mentioned me, you said that I was playing my Town meta by being quiet but now it's opposite. Which is it then ?

Here we can get a glimpse from what appears to be sig calling him out on “coasting” as mafia previously, though nova sticks that up sig’a ass with a stick to smoke.

I don’t know his meta, but one could say nova has been “coasting” of late. After Colin got lynched, he’s definitely lost a bit of wind in his sails

I have been busy and I missed almost the entirety of D3 and the beginning of D4. I will also not have a lot of free-time until this weekend.

About D3, I announced my intention of pushing Lunalee before Colin's push since I believed that his vote for her D1 was a distancing vote on one of his teammate. A meaningless off-wagon vote. I also didn't like how she jumped on the Oracle's prophecy and tried to confirm herself with it, while ignoring my questioning her. That's why I left a vote on her at the start of D3, before leaving.

Now with the other prophecy mentioning her and town-reading her, I have my doubts and I think she is that role. She used the prophecy to save herself and hinting at her role. So I'm not too sold on lynching her today.

Last but not least, I would say that activity is non-alignment indicative for me. I'm being honest here and I've played several games here and players can attest to that. I have been seen " coasting " as Town in my previous games as Town here, and also in a game as scum.

I'm thinking about this. Hiding behind a prophet is a kind of pointless scum tactic considering the message is based on opinion. It's not a very good argument.

Thing is, I don't know either of them very well. Would scum Luna do this? Would town nova make this argument?

Also, "I announced my intention of pushing" puts me off. It seems rehearsed.

How does it seem rehearsed ? Haven't you ever suspected someone and them flipping scum would incriminate another player based on their interactions ?

That's exactly what happened with Colin and his off-wagon vote on Luna at the very end of D1. I read it as a distancing vote from him on one of his teammates.

[Quin]

It's the wording, not the context.

When I'm bad I can spend ages crafting a post to make it more enticing. I feel like I'm better at feigning authenticity than most, and that phrase looked to me like that done wrong.

[novaselinenever]

All right.

What about the rest of the post ?

[Quin]

I doubt Luna is the oracle. I agree with whoever mentioned Luna being unlikely to write those posts about herself since it was so close to info dumping.

[novaselinenever]

Then, what do you make of Colin's vote on her ? And also her herself ?

[Quin]

Colin's vote came across as genuine suspicion (or as close to genuine as scum can get) which makes me think he was trying to get a train going. Good look for her.

I thought she looked bad after her LC vote yesterday or the day before. Him being good, not so much. I might have the energy for a proper ISO tonight.

[novaselinenever]

Colin's vote came across as genuine suspicion (or as close to genuine as scum can get) which makes me think he was trying to get a train going. Good look for her.

I thought she looked bad after her LC vote yesterday or the day before. Him being good, not so much. I might have the energy for a proper ISO tonight.

What about the timing of it though ? It was with I think less than 10mn left, so I doubt he was trying to get a train going.

What are your thoughts on SpaceDaisy ? My vote is currently on her and we had an interaction earlier tonight;

[Quin]

I also saw LC and Golden as w/w. Reasons for that were explicit from Golden's end so I could still see scum Golden painting LC. I don't have the time to ISO him though.

[Quin]

Colin's vote came across as genuine suspicion (or as close to genuine as scum can get) which makes me think he was trying to get a train going. Good look for her.

I thought she looked bad after her LC vote yesterday or the day before. Him being good, not so much. I might have the energy for a proper ISO tonight.

What about the timing of it though ? It was with I think less than 10mn left, so I doubt he was trying to get a train going.

What are your thoughts on SpaceDaisy ? My vote is currently on her and we had an interaction earlier tonight;

Was EoD1 chaotic? 10 minutes is enough time for that. If not, it doesn't make her look better but it doesn't make her look worse either.

I have zero thoughts on daisy.

[novaselinenever]

It was chaotic but not the kind of chaotic allowing a quick wagon to form. There were 3 main wagons (me, Epi and sig) almost all tied at 4. His vote would have most likely decided who gets lynched or not.

[Quin]

I'd chalk his vote up to avoiding responsibility in that case. Silly man.

I'm the only one who can get away with voting off wagon.

[wolbre04]

So at what point do we lynch wolbre/Sloonei/Quin to determine if they sided with the mafia

We still need to eliminate mafia sooooo I'm focusing on that for now.

Fffffffff
I'm not indie I swear!

And if I was indie, I sure as hell wouldn't side with mafia, at least with town I start as town and finish as one

You sure about that ? I remember Sig saying that he wouldn't be surprised if you sided with Mafia as an Indie, just for the fun of it.

Sig hasn't played enough with me to make a statement like that lol. Plus especially considering that the mafia wouldn't have a chat with me means that I could very well get killed, all for nothing

[novaselinenever]

So at what point do we lynch wolbre/Sloonei/Quin to determine if they sided with the mafia

We still need to eliminate mafia sooooo I'm focusing on that for now.

Fffffffff
I'm not indie I swear!

And if I was indie, I sure as hell wouldn't side with mafia, at least with town I start as town and finish as one

You sure about that ? I remember Sig saying that he wouldn't be surprised if you sided with Mafia as an Indie, just for the fun of it.

Sig hasn't played enough with me to make a statement like that lol. Plus especially considering that the mafia wouldn't have a chat with me means that I could very well get killed, all for nothing

What do you think made him say that then ?

[Quin]

So at what point do we lynch wolbre/Sloonei/Quin to determine if they sided with the mafia

We still need to eliminate mafia sooooo I'm focusing on that for now.

Fffffffff
I'm not indie I swear!

And if I was indie, I sure as hell wouldn't side with mafia, at least with town I start as town and finish as one

You sure about that ? I remember Sig saying that he wouldn't be surprised if you sided with Mafia as an Indie, just for the fun of it.

Sig hasn't played enough with me to make a statement like that lol. Plus especially considering that the mafia wouldn't have a chat with me means that I could very well get killed, all for nothing

Doesn't line up.

Welcome wolbre, nice to meet you.

Thank you <3

wolbre04, I look forward to seeing your reads!

also, do you think sig represented you accurately in the blurb below?

Also wolbre and I are from the same original site, we've aldo played on mu once together. However, every game we've played together I've been mafia or independent so I never really bothered to learn his meta.

I don't believe he's ever been mafia and is still new to mafia as a whole compared to all of us, he's also deadily as an independent and in my opinion if he's one of those three trading guys he'll side with mafia for the lolz.

Yeah that's pretty accurate. My first game of mafia ever on a forum was about five months ago, so I'm still learning steadily. I have never gotten mafia before but I won my second game ever as Serial Killer. I don't know if I can make a joke about the last sentence as it might be against the rules and I don't want to get killed immediately haha. But I don't really have a meta because I'm all over the place

[colonialbob]

So at what point do we lynch wolbre/Sloonei/Quin to determine if they sided with the mafia

We still need to eliminate mafia sooooo I'm focusing on that for now.

Didn't notice this earlier, kinda makes me want to vote Scotty though

[colonialbob]

I'm going to park it here for now

[VOTE: lunalee] aubergine

What you think about the Oracle's read on her twice ?

I think the Oracle is just as fallible as the rest of us, except they're operating in the past. (I'm no longer assuming luna is the oracle)

[colonialbob]

So at what point do we lynch wolbre/Sloonei/Quin to determine if they sided with the mafia

We still need to eliminate mafia sooooo I'm focusing on that for now.

Fffffffff
I'm not indie I swear!

And if I was indie, I sure as hell wouldn't side with mafia, at least with town I start as town and finish as one

You sure about that ? I remember Sig saying that he wouldn't be surprised if you sided with Mafia as an Indie, just for the fun of it.

Sig hasn't played enough with me to make a statement like that lol. Plus especially considering that the mafia wouldn't have a chat with me means that I could very well get killed, all for nothing

Doesn't line up.

Welcome wolbre, nice to meet you.

Thank you <3

wolbre04, I look forward to seeing your reads!

also, do you think sig represented you accurately in the blurb below?

Also wolbre and I are from the same original site, we've aldo played on mu once together. However, every game we've played together I've been mafia or independent so I never really bothered to learn his meta.

I don't believe he's ever been mafia and is still new to mafia as a whole compared to all of us, he's also deadily as an independent and in my opinion if he's one of those three trading guys he'll side with mafia for the lolz.

Yeah that's pretty accurate. My first game of mafia ever on a forum was about five months ago, so I'm still learning steadily. I have never gotten mafia before but I won my second game ever as Serial Killer. I don't know if I can make a joke about the last sentence as it might be against the rules and I don't want to get killed immediately haha. But I don't really have a meta because I'm all over the place

What does this make you think about wolbre?

[Quin]

We still need to eliminate mafia sooooo I'm focusing on that for now.

Fffffffff
I'm not indie I swear!

And if I was indie, I sure as hell wouldn't side with mafia, at least with town I start as town and finish as one

You sure about that ? I remember Sig saying that he wouldn't be surprised if you sided with Mafia as an Indie, just for the fun of it.

Sig hasn't played enough with me to make a statement like that lol. Plus especially considering that the mafia wouldn't have a chat with me means that I could very well get killed, all for nothing

Doesn't line up.

Welcome wolbre, nice to meet you.

Thank you <3

wolbre04, I look forward to seeing your reads!

also, do you think sig represented you accurately in the blurb below?

Also wolbre and I are from the same original site, we've aldo played on mu once together. However, every game we've played together I've been mafia or independent so I never really bothered to learn his meta.

I don't believe he's ever been mafia and is still new to mafia as a whole compared to all of us, he's also deadily as an independent and in my opinion if he's one of those three trading guys he'll side with mafia for the lolz.

Yeah that's pretty accurate. My first game of mafia ever on a forum was about five months ago, so I'm still learning steadily. I have never gotten mafia before but I won my second game ever as Serial Killer. I don't know if I can make a joke about the last sentence as it might be against the rules and I don't want to get killed immediately haha. But I don't really have a meta because I'm all over the place

What does this make you think about wolbre?

makes me think he actually is indy. it didn't matter that sig wasn't representing him right at first but it does now that he's in the hotseat.

[Marmot]

I say we give the Oracle another day. As far as we know now, there is a civilian out there that truly thinks Luna is a civilian.

[Lunalee]

I've been too busy to keep up with day 4. Hopefully I'll be around enough to make an informed vote. If someone wants to give me a good reason to move my vote off dunya, I'll consider.

[Turnip Head]

I'm craving a Choutas lynch once more. dude is so bad No posts whatsoever since he was pressured D3